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SSD speeds seem much slower since Spectre-Meltdown update

Q: SSD speeds seem much slower since Spectre-Meltdown update

I have noticed since I updated my system because of the Spectre and Meltdown bug that my SSD's are not getting the same speeds as they were. I downloaded AS SSD benchmark previously and had checked my SSD's and they normally had run at around 450 mbps and 550 mbps. I have 3 SSD's in my system and of course have them all set to AHCI in the BIOS. I downloaded and flashed the new BIOS from Gigabyte's page. The bios version is named F23f (Update Intel ME for security vulnerabilities). Also downloaded and installed the new Chipset driver with the info on the side that says:Intel Management Engine Interface
(Note) Please update the latest BIOS for ME Firmware before installing this driver.
Update Intel ME for security vulnerabilities
Installed the new patch from Microsoft to Windows 10 1709 version KB4054517. I now have been experiencing slower SSD speeds especially for the "Write" speeds. "Read" speeds seem to be the same, if not slightly slower. Is anyone else noticing this? Thanks.

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Preferred Solution: SSD speeds seem much slower since Spectre-Meltdown update

I recommend downloading and running DAP. It can help sort out any driver and firmware related issues on your system

It's worked out well for many of us in the past.

You can download it direct from this link http://downloaddap.org. (This link will open the download page of DAP so you can save a copy to your computer.)


I bought a gaming class system for quick response and speed for everyday applications. Now with the fixes to the Intel I7 micro code its noticably slower both starting and responding to common site and applications I used every day over and over.  The I7 is no longer what it was and its not my fault nor much I can do. This was an issue for at least 5 generations of CPU's and Intel never fixed it in their designs and now we have to live with a work around patch that a major impact to performance.

T520 Model 4239 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2860QMbr>; Nvidia NVS 4200M Win 10 64bitZ70-80 I7 - 5500U 16GB GB - 1TB HD Win 10 64bit FHD 17.3", G840 w/2GB

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Earlier today i Decided to give  Lenovo uk Tech support a call,  i want to know if my  ideapad Z580 was possibly on the vulnerable list for Meltdown & Spectre? Only to my complete astonishment the guy i spoke with said he had never even heard of Meltdown & Spectre, and had no idea what i was even talking aboutuntil he looked it up, then he just said to me  i wouldn't worry about it i were you,  W T F Lenovo.  So does anyone on here know if the ideapad Z580 is affected at all, I can't see it listed anywhere.   

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Recently bought a new msi gt62vr 7re gaming laptop and I'm quite terrified about the news...What should I do?Should I even worry?

MSI has just released a new BIOS today with:

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;; ;; ;; MSI BIOS Release Notes ;; ;; ;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Model : MS-16L2 (KBL)
MKT Name : GT62VR 7RD / GT62VR 7RE ;****************************************************************************; New BIOS : E16L2IMS.30C
ROM CheckSum : 2FCDH
Release Date : 2018/1/9
;--------------------------- Description ------------------------------------;
Update CPU microcode.


But I'm honestly quite scared of doing it after going through the instructions...What should I do?

Do you think I should even bother and risk updating the BIOS?I'm kind of thinking that the risk that I break something is higher than the risk that I get hacked with the Spectre vulnerability...I've never ever updated BIOS and I'm unable to take my laptop to any technician because of my disability.

A:Meltdown/Spectre BIOS update

MSI has a BIOS update (version E16L2IMS.30C) which addresses the recently discovered security flaw in Intel. ARM, and AMD processors.  This was released on 01/09/2018.  Is this the update you are considering?
How did you become aware of this update?
It was recently announced that Intel (and other manufacturers)  has a large security problem with their CPUs.  The BIOS update offered by MSI addresses this issue, Microsoft has released a update to address this as well.
Updating the BIOS (also known as flashing the BIOS) was fraught with potential problems which left enthusiasts wary of updating.  It had become the accepted norm not to update the BIOS unless there was a hardware change which required a BIOS update to resolve the issue.  But as you have read above there are now more important reasons to update the BIOS.  It is easier to do now, but you need to have a firm understanding of the steps involved in the process.  Have you read through the instructions in the manual for this computer?

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i'm told by various other forums and newsletters that along with the Microsoft update - installed yesterday - we also need a BIOS update (from manufacturers) with some kind of code from Intel, to fix the above flaws in our CPUs.
i searched the Toshiba downloads and updates page and the only BIOS updates are from 2012.
any news on Toshiba releasing a solution for this?

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I can't apply Microsoft updates to address the Meltdown/Spectre vulnerabilities until there is an update to the BIOS software from Lenovo. I have reviewed the support page that lists models targeted for updates, and I don't see mine listed: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/len-18282 This is my main personal laptop, which I use for a lot of important tasks. If I can't apply this critical security update then it's worthless to me. This is not a very old machine, I would expect there to be some acknowledgement of it on that support page, but as far as I can see only newer Yoga models are being targeted for firmware patches. Please advise whether Lenovo intends to address this issue on this model.

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Hello Lenovo team, We, the users of Y510P hereby request our laptops not be exclued from the security updates regarding Spectre/Meltdown. This is a serious issue and we need a serious support from your side.

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HelloI would like to install the O2TJY45USA firmware update for my Ideacentre 510-15IKL. I am running Linux Mint on the desktop. I could find the Windows10 updater .EXE on the pcsupport.lenovo.com website  so far. Does anybody knows if there is a bootable .ISO that I could use without Windows. The updater .EXE provided in the download package is called wflash2.exe which indicates that it is designed for the use with Windows10 and not FreeDOS or alike. Many thanks for your help

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We are attempting to automate the BIOS upgrades to address CVE-2017-5715. This has been no problem thus far on our other Lenovo models that have released updates. However, with the X250 (both touch and non-touch) we receive the following error:   error 180 - bios part numbers do not match It actually does not matter what version of the BIOS we try to flash, lower or higher. The embedded controller will update through the automation but the BIOS will not. The weird thing is if you manually run WINUPTP64.exe it will update without issue. This is not a realistic solution with the number of devices we have. I will say that our X250s have an OEM only BIOS version installed which I suspect might be the issue?   1.19 1.19 (N10ET40W) 1.13 (N10HT14W) For factory use  

A:X250 And Spectre/Meltdown - Cannot Automate BIOS Update

I'll add that this BIOS version is on at least 435 of our X250s.

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As I know, Intel already published microcode updates for all Haswell CPU's, including mobile. At least, ASUS support confirmed, that BIOS of all MB for Haswell will be updated. Updated microcodes for Linux are already available. What about BIOS update for the Yoga 2 Pro with i7-4500U? Thank you in advance.

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Will I need to update my IdeaCentre 71-25ISH motherboard's BIOS for Spectre vulnerabilities? I read here in the Reading Privileged Memory (https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/len-18282) with a Side Channel that Variant 2: Branch target injection (CVE-2017-5715)? Requires processor microcode updates  Requires operating system updatesVulnerable to Spectre attackSo does "Requires processor microcode updates" = motherboard BIOS update?  I see a line of infomation of stating Product: IdeaCentre 700Status: AffectedMinimum Version Required to Fix: FWKT86A  Link to Update:  http://support.lenovo.com/downloads/DS104868 Last Updated: 1/7/2018 I am posting here today because Monday Jan. 8 '18 I was told by Lenovo Support over the phone "there should be no need to update the motherboard BIOS". 

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Is there an estimate of when the BIOS update for the YOGA 910-131 KV 80VF notebooks, to address the Meltdown and Spectre security vulnerabilities, will be available?  Will a notification be pushed out to users with 910s, or do I need to keep checking for availability myself?  Thanks.

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Microsoft continues to work diligently with our industry partners to address the Spectre and Meltdown hardware-based vulnerabilities. Our top priority is clear: Help protect the safety and security of our customers? devices and data. Today, I?d like to provide an update on some of that work, including Windows security update availability for additional devices, our role in helping distribute available Intel firmware (microcode), and progress driving anti-virus compatibility.

Additional steps being taken to address Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities
Windows devices need both software and firmware updates to help protect them against these new vulnerabilities. Recently we added software coverage for x86 editions of Windows 10, and we continue to work to provide updates for other supported versions of Windows. You can find more information and a table of updated Windows editions in our Windows customer guidance article. We will update this documentation when new mitigations become available.

While firmware (microcode) security updates are not yet broadly available, Intel recently announced that they have completed their validations and started to release microcode for newer CPU platforms. Today, Microsoft will make available Intel microcode updates, initially for some Skylake devices running the most broadly installed version of Windows 10 ? the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update ? through the Microsoft Update Catalog, KB4090007. We will offer additional microcode upd... Read more

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Hello together, does anyone know why the T430s Type 2356 is missing on the BIOS Update list at the following page?https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/solutions/len-18282 So far, only 2352, 2353, 2354 and 2355 are listed an scheduled for february. Will there be an update for the 2356? Thanks in advanceRegards

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Hi ,

As we know about the Spectre and meltdown Vulnerability, to mitigate these Vulnerability we need to apply the Windows OS patches.
i didn`t found any KB update released for the Server 2012, can anyone suggest when this will be released or share KB no if it already released.

Shailendra Dev

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Hi, On the list of BIOS update for Meltdown and Spectre, I can't find out the status of Lenovo M81 7517 and Lenovo M81 7517 B2U. Does it mean there is no impact for those 2 desktop? Thanks 

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I have a problem with my Hitachi 3tb duo pro drive external hard drive. As i put more files it seems to get slower in one folder. An example is today, the access speed to find a patients name in it ( about 6k folders) would take about 30 secs. Before that it would only take 10 seconds and when i had about 4k folders it was pretty instantaneous. I've tried defrag, disk clean up, disabling background processes but I do not know how to solve this problem. Is the problem is too many subfolders in one folder? Or is there a solution to make it fast enough as I first started to use it. Yesturday it was not that bad but when i started today, it was unbearable. ANy feedback is appreciated thx.

A:Extkernal hard drive slow access speeds getting slower and slower

Well it depends how many loose files are in the folder. For instance say I have 10,000 pictures in one folder and that folder when I open it is taken for ever to load cause it is trying to cache all the contents and index all those files that are contained in it. If I go into that particular folder and create more folders lets say 10 folders, then place 1000 pictures in each folder then it will load a lot faster cause there not so many files in one folder to cache and index. Try and keep you files down to a moderate number of files inside the folders. It's like trying to stuff a bunch of paper inside a manilla folder it can only hold so many before it doesn't function any more....

Also most USB drives go idle and stop spinning after about 15 minutes usually, you can use the software that came with the drive to configure the usb to spin all the time. A 3tb drive is huge and I would consider partitioning the drive to 3 separate partitions of 1tb each that would speed things up considerably. Also 2tb is all that windows will see on a MBR partition if you want to keep it at 3tb then you will have to set it at a GPT (GUI Partition Table) for it to be used correctly in Windows 7.

Follow this tutorial on how to change the partition table from mbr to gpt:

Convert MBR Disk to GPT Disk

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Ordinarily the download speeds are approximately five times faster than the upload. I have a backup computer which is an Acer netbook that has the reverse situation. My speeds when tested were 1.25 mbs for download, and 5.6 mbs for upload.

Does anyone have any idea as to what's going on her?

A:Why are my download speeds 5 X slower than my upload speeds?

How did you test the speed? What OS is the backup computer using?

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Hi I don't see my laptop B50-80 on the list in: Lenovo Security Advisory: LEN-18282 (https://support.lenovo.com/se/pl/solutions/len-18282)Why? Does it means that there won't be a upgrade for this laptop?

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Has anyone write step by step procedure to patch this issues yet ??
Those already done,,a little sharing are appreciated !!


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Hi i dont know a lot about computers or the workings but with the scare of meltdown and spectre can we not get a new mother board and proccessos fitted in our old pc or is it not worth the faffing about and cost or what is the chance of little old me getting hacked just surfing the net not going on naughty sights like porn ect thanks . ps just by a new pc

A:Spectre and Meltdown

Chances of you being infected, and/or your data compromised with malware exploiting meltown and spectre vulnerabilities, are close to none.
Keep your software updated and don't be click happy. Stay safe!

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Hi All

I'm sure you've all been following the news of Meltdown/Spectre.

I'm a (very satisfied) AppGuard user and was wondering if AppGuard can or does help with the issues we are facing with Meltdown/Spectre?

I know you need to install OS patches, firmware updates etc etc but in my case my PC is over 5yrs old and I highly doubt there will be any firmware/BIOS updates so can/will AppGuard help at all protect from these threats?

A:AppGuard + Spectre/Meltdown

As long as nothing with a code that tries to exploit meltdown/spectre runs on your system then you are protected. So if appguard or any anti exe, anti malware, antivius, srp, god himself stops the payload you are ptotected and if not you are not protected. Not going to go into details when it stops and when it doesn't because as a user you should already know that.

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Hi everyone,
I currently own a Windows XP PC, which I occasionally use for web browsing. Are patches for Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities going to be issued for Windows XP, similar to the Wannacry Ransomware? I couldn't find any info about this online.

A:Meltdown and Spectre patches?

Unsupported operating systems like XP won't be getting patches.
My operating system (OS) is not listed. When can I expect a fix to be released?

Addressing a hardware vulnerability with a software update presents significant challenges and mitigations for older operating systems and can require extensive architectural changes. We are continuing to work with affected chip manufacturers and investigating the best way to provide mitigations, which may be provided in a future update. Replacing older devices running these older operating systems should address the remaining risk along with updated antivirus software.
Products currently out of both mainstream and extended support will not receive these OS updates. We recommend customers update to a supported OS version.
We will not be issuing updates for Windows Vista or Windows XP-based systems including WES 2009 and POSReady 2009.
Although Windows Vista and Windows XP-based systems are affected products, Microsoft is not issuing an update for them because the comprehensive architectural changes required would jeopardize system stability and cause application compatibility problems. We recommend that security-conscious customers upgrade to a newer supported operating system to keep pace with the changing security threat landscape and benefit from the more robust protections that newer operating systems provide.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-sg/help/4073757/protect-your-windows-d... Read more

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I have Windows 10 version 1709 (Fall Creators Update) on my home desktop PC. I have just updated with 2018-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x64-based Systems (KB4056892). 
I have read the excellent and informative article How to Check if Your PC Is Protected Against Meltdown and Spectre by Chris Hoffman at How-To Geek. I ran this PowerShell script and after entering all of the commands my results are as follows:
Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5715 [branch target injection]
Hardware support for branch target injection mitigation is present: False (need BIOS update)
Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True
Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is enabled: False
Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by system policy: False
Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by absence of hardware support: True
Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5754 [rogue data cache load]
Hardware requires kernel VA shadowing: True
Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is present: True
Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is enabled: True
Windows OS support for PCID performance optimnization is enabled: False [not required for security]
Suggested actions
* Install BIOS/.firmware update provided by your device OEM that enables hardware support for the branch target injection... Read more

A:How to Know if I'm Protected Against Meltdown & Spectre

If you have the most recent version BIOS installed, then your BIOS is up to date. There is nothing more for you to do with BIOS for now.BIOS could care less and has no idea what version of Windows you are running. Windows does not load when you go into BIOS.I did not take the time to read all that stuff at How-To Geek.Why did you read and run all that stuff? Are you experiencing system problems?If you're not experiencing system problems, then I would ignore the output of the Powershell app.Yes, it is true that anti-virus apps can interfere with Windows Updates, but Avast Free Edition is not one that I generally see interfering. Usually, it is the Internet Security Suites with the 3rd party firewalls that wreak havoc with Windows Updates. The fact that you checked for Windows Updates and it said none were available means that all outstanding Windows Updates are installed.You have plenty of protection with Avast, Windows Firewall, Internet Modem Firewall and Windows 10 itself. You really don't need further protection.Regards. . .jcgriff2p.s. Just curious - what did they tell you at the How-To Geek forum?

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Hello people- I just heard about the security flaw out there called Spectre or meltdown-- My problem is this-- I am working on an older computer running Windows VISTA- yes you heard right-- My computer has never given me ANY problems- and I stand by the old motto- if it aint broke dont fix it. My memory has 8 GB and it is an HP-Intel core 2 quad cpu 2.33 GHZ- service pack 2 windows vista home premium.
Because I am running Vista- I can no longer get chrome updates- and thus when I try to do the software patch for this new problem- That strict isolation site - is not there and thus I cannot enable it- do you really think this is a problem- or not?? Please advise
P.S. My passwords are extremely strong for all of my important sites-if that matters?

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Hello everybody, there is an offical Lenovo Advisory for Meltdown & Spectre in Combination with Lenovo Products:https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/solutions/len-18282 But i can't find information about my Lenovo Y50-70. Does anybody has further information?Do we will see an upgrade for our devices? Thanks in advancedGreatings from GermanyDaniel K.

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Acer Aspire M3985 (2012)
Windows 8.1
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770
Motherboard: Intel B75
So I've been getting freezes/crashes when I'm gaming. I made a thread here: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/666843/pc-freezing-when-gaming/
The user usasma recommended to me that I'd also post here.
I've updated my BIOS from Acer but they haven't rolled out a new one yet for the bug. What can I do more to know if I'm secure?

A:How to check if im secure against the Spectre/Meltdown bug?

You will have to wait for the firmware update for your BIOS/UEFI with the microcode for your CPU.

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Security researchers have disclosed a set of security flaws that they said could let hackers steal sensitive information from nearly every modern computing device containing chips from Intel, Advanced Micro Devices and ARM Holdings.
One of the bugs is specific to Intel but another affects laptops, desktop computers, smartphones, tablets and internet servers alike. - Intel and ARM insisted that the issue was not a design flaw, but it will require users to download a patch and update their operating system to fix. - "Phones, PCs, everything are going to have some impact, but it'll vary from product to product," Intel CEO Brian Krzanich said yesterday. 

A:Meltdown & Spectre Vulnerability..Any known way to prevent this?

Operating systems have to be patched. Linux patches are out now, Windows is expected to be patched Update Tuesday next week.
Patches and other mitigations have been released for Server versions of Windows:

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Looking through the list of downloads for Spectre/Meltdown here: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/len-17297I see nothing for the M715q. I assume it isn't safe from these issues is it? Will it be getting a fix anytime soon?

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BIOS updates for Meltdown and Spectre - any info on when they will be ready/released?

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Hey guys, and thanks for the help in advance!  Rather than hijack another's thread I will wreak my havoc here.
From what I just read (Thanks to Didier Stevens) I see that I have an older version of PowerShell, and that this Script won't work.  Here is my outcome.  I will go try to find the info on Updating Powershell, and then try the script again.  Any advice on that would be nice, if there is anything to avoid etc.  Hopefully this will also help others with this issue.

Windows PowerShell
Copyright (C) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

PS C:\Windows\system32> Install-Module SpeculationControl
The term 'Install-Module' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check
the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.
At line:1 char:15
+ Install-Module <<<< SpeculationControl
+ CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: (Install-Module:String) [], CommandNotFoundException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : CommandNotFoundException

PS C:\Windows\system32> get-host|Select-Object version

PS C:\Windows\system32>

I am a little confused about what this Script does?  Is it that not all CPU's are vulnerable?  My CPU does not have a current firmware update so it may be vulnerable at this time (though not to worried about it ATM) I have time to work on it now, so I'll try to move for... Read more

A:Meltdown and Spectre Powershell-Script Won't Run, Me Too!

You need to install the Windows Management Framework to update PowerShell.
Take a look at the table here to see which version is compatible with your Windows version:

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Based on Microsoft's TechNet here...
I need to add these 3 keys to my servers.  Do I need to add these to my servers that are Server 2012s or are the keys only for Server 2012 R2?

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Hello! In our company we are using Lenovo T470s laptops and we want to prepare a plan to deploy the fix for Spectre and Meltdown, I'm following the official Lenovo website and checking for updated information https://support.lenovo.com/dk/en/solutions/len-18282 Can anyone tell me what would be the best sproach to centrally patch all your clients?My first thought is to use SCCM, but maybe Lenovo already has some tool of it's own that we could utilize? Like the Lenovo System Update tool, coult it be an option? Can it be controlled via scripting?Please let me know your reccomendations? P.S.Does the T 470s have any safety feature for BIOS if remote BIOS flash would go wrong?

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Hello. I am curious if the Flex 2 and 3 series are vulnerable to the Spectre/meltdown vulnerabilities. I came across a Lenovo article with all the models and did not see Flex 2 and 3. https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/len-18282

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Hello everybody, there is an offical Lenovo Advisory for Meltdown & Spectre in Combination with Lenovo Products:https://support.lenovo.com/nl/en/solutions/len-18282 But i can't find information about my Lenovo G550. Does anybody has further information?Do we will see an upgrade for our devices?

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Hello. Nice to meet you!
I have a serious dilemma! We all have heard about the two critical vulnerabilities were discovered in modern processors named “Meltdown” and “Spectre,” these processor chip vulnerabilities are found on personal computers, mobile devices, and in the cloud.
Now, my Lenovo ThinkPad T510 laptop PC that to this day runs great therefore I have no issues with it. I have no plans on upgrading to a new laptop. I have Windows 7 Pro SP1 installed and I was even figuring soon on upgrading my operating system to Windows 10 Pro ON THIS VERY PC!!!
So after hearing these two (2) critical vulnerabilities I checked with both Lenovo and Intel to see if there was a patch to update to secure my PC from these two (2) threats. I discovered NOT. Intel defers me to Lenovo as they are the maker and control the updates and such. I just discovered my PC was just outside the mainstream/extended support updates late this past year and now deemed EOL (End of Life).  
So without these important patches for my PC, I am now vulnerable with this PC! What can I do in order to assure malicious hackers using these two (2) design flaws do not compromise my PC without the patch fix(es)??? A good explanation is needed, please!
All I read online is “determine one’s vulnerabilities with running various tools” (I have done and found I am vulnerable.) and “how to patch instructions” one’s PC when ... Read more

A:How About Those Users That Can NOT Get Patches For Meltdown & Spectre?

If there are no patches there are no patches.  There is nothing to do in regard to either your OS if OS patches don't exist or BIOS/UEFI if those patches don't exist.
As to threat, one must always be aware that most hackers, except for those out to wreak havoc for "bragging rights" (and they're the minority), are targeting entities where either money can be extracted (ransomware) or some sort of major disruption can be had that the hacker desires.
Most individuals in this world are *extremely* unlikely to be the target of hacking in general.  There has to be some gain for the hacker and your PC or mine is generally not considered a payoff rich environment.
It is remotely possible that any one of us might be subject to attack due to these vulnerabilities.  It is not at all probable that any one of us will be if we're talking about our home PCs for personal use.

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