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Maintenance before system-image-backup

Q: Maintenance before system-image-backup

Hello,Before doing a system-image-backup, with Macrium Reflect (free version), do you suggest to manually execute a maintenance process (from the Action Center), in case the previous Windows automatic maintenance didn't run (perhaps the computer was not switched on)? Even if there is no particular alert displayed?Or it is not important, and after restoring the system-image-backup, Windows 8 will continue to work without problems where it was left, even if months or years have passed since the backup?It is not important to do this, even if several automatic maintenances have been skipped? (still for the same reason: computer switched off during maintenance time).Thanks.

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Preferred Solution: Maintenance before system-image-backup

I recommend downloading and running Reimage. It's a computer repair tool that has been proven to identify and fix many Windows problems with a high level of success.

I've used it in the past to identify and fix everything from blue screens (BSOD's), ActiveX errors, corrupt files and processes, dll/exe/sys errors, recover lost memory, Windows update problems, defragging, malware removal etc.

You can download it direct from this link http://downloadreimage.com/download.php. (This link will automatically start a download of Reimage that you can save to your computer.)

A: Maintenance before system-image-backup

Hi Thomas B,






do you suggest to manually execute a maintenance process (from the Action Center?



Personally, I use Macrium Reflect Free and I never do any of the prep work you are describing. Now, I am not saying that you should not do it, but I can tell you it is not necessary.






Windows 8 will continue to work without problems where it was left, even if months or years have passed since the backup



Well, the years is a bit of a stretch; however, if you created a system image 6 month ago, it would revert your PC to that exact point in time, which means you'll have to reinstall all programs that were installed during the last 6 months, as well as download all Windows Updates that were issued in the last 6 months, etc.

Hope this helps.

my2cents

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Hello,
 
Before doing a system-image-backup, with Macrium Reflect (free version), do you suggest to manually execute a maintenance process (from the Action Center), in case the previous Windows automatic maintenance (or more of them) didn't run (perhaps the computer was not switched on)? Even if there is no particular alert displayed?
 
Or it is not important, and after restoring the system-image-backup, Windows 8 will continue to work without problems where it was left, even if months or years have passed since the backup?
It is not important to do this, even if several automatic maintenances have been skipped? (still for the same reason: computer switched off during maintenance time).
 
Thanks.
 

A:Maintenance before system-image-backup

It wouldn't hurt to defrag the hdd, use the disk cleanup tool, run chkdsk /r, and run sfc /scannow.  You could also run Temp File Cleaner.
 
Please explain about the computer turning off during maintenance.

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Hi

From times to times I load my disk image backup from win7 system and install the new programs/drivers i was using and save a new backup.

I usually to do this by backing up my C: drive, but this turn to my surprise, windows for some reason wants to backup C and D, is it possible to pick a drive for it to make a system image?

I'm mean, this is probably my 8th updagrade to the backup. I've always backed up from C: -> D:, which are on the same hdd, and now it suddenly needs to backup C and D to create a system image .

A:system image backup - how does windows pick the drives to backup?

Hello vbkun.





Will you please post a snip/screen-shot of the entire disk management drive map so we can see what you have going on.

In the Windows start menu right click computer and click manage, in the left pane of the "Computer Management" window that opens click disk management and post a snip of that.

How to Post a Screenshot in Seven Forums

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Hello,

Before I re-imaged my laptop, I made sure to do a backup of personal files + a system image in case things went wrong.

The imaging was successful, and now, the new Win7 OS recognizes the old backup as a backup from another computer (as it should).

However, is it possible to manage this old backup? (manage => edit)

Now that I don't need the old system image, I would prefer to get rid of it ... plus, I created a backup for my current image so there's quite a bit of space used by backup files..

Thanks

A:Managing a backup from a previous image (eg. deleting system image)

Should be able to just delete it, but more detail is needed for the best answer.

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Can someone tell by these jpgs if the 6/28/10 "backup" is just a user files backup or a complete System Image Backup with user files backup included which I think is my default b/u setup now ?

Thanks....TR

A:Is this a general backup or system IMAGE & BACKUP

The items in the right pic could be moved to a flash drive or burned to CD. You will have to find them.

The Flash is easy to redownload. The Windows Security updates will just download and install again.

I'll check what my Sys Restore looks like and be back in a moment for the left picture.
I want to be sure.

My last Back up System Restore looks like yours. So this is defintely a System Restore point you are showing.
They changed the wording a bit on Win7 compared to XP.
If you need to go back that far you can try it.
Transfer what you can.

Mike

Yes System Image.

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Hi, I am trying out windows 7 backup, hoping at last that I won't need a 3rd party backup solution. So far so bad! My first problem is how ridicilously slow the backup is, but this has been discussed at length elsewhere. My second problem is the backup stalls when I try to backup a folder which I know has got various bits of malware in. I am an IT pro and use the files in this folder for testing purposes. OK fair enough I guess, although I think the backup should handle this event a bit more elegantly. So I've zipped and password protected the offending files to hide them from the AV (security essentials by the way) The final problem which I just can't understand is that when I try to create an image of my system drive, backup wants to add my D drive (which is purely a data drive) to the image. My D drive is huge and I don't want to include it in a system image. I keep my system drive lean and mean for exactly this purpose but now I can't back it up because the total size of C and D drives combined exceed the capacity of my backup drive. I know for a fact that the D drive has no consequence to the system boooting or operating, I have disconnected it and windows boots up just fine. In computer management the D Drive is not showing up as a system drive, so why does windows think it is? And why isn't there a power user mode wher I can choose exactly what I want in a system image, I understand you're trying to make windows easy to use for the average Joe, bu... Read more

A:Windows 7 Backup - System image includes non system disk

I suggest you check your hard drive jumpers. There should be only one Active drive. If you disconnect the data partition the Active partition will be changed. We are not clear why the partition will be Active partition when you connect it.
You may open Disk Management, set the 100MB system served partition or your Windows partition as Active and check the result again.Arthur Xie - MSFT

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Can some one tell me what the differences are between system image, system restore and system backup.

Also I made a system image and stored the file on an external drive and can't find the image file. Can someone tell me how I can find the file - did a search and organized the drive by date and could not find the file.

A:Difference between system image, system rest and backup

System Image is a copy of your hard drive
System restore copies your OS
Back up and restore copies your personal doucments etc

On my system the file is windows image and backup.

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Usually, I store my Windows 7 Backup Files on a large internal disk that i reserve more or less for Backups. From time to time, I also create additional copies on external USB disks that I store safely/remotely in the safe of my bank. For backing up my files/folders, I select the "Let Window choose (recommended)" option (Windows Backup will then include in the Backup a System image). I observed that when changing the destination of my file/folder backups from the internal disk to the external disk (and vice versa), Windows Backup always created on the new destination  a new Full Backup and a new Backup Set for my File/Folder backups (even though a previous Backup set was already existing on that destination).But..... When clicking on "Create A system Image" in the left pane of the Backup And Restore Control panel, to create a System Image Backup of my C partition, and when changing the backup destination from the internal disk to the external disk (or vice versa), things become more complex and I am not sure what is really happening.   a) On one side, when changing the backup destination, the Backup process takes long time and I have therefore the (right? or wrong?) impression that Windows Backup is creating a Full Backup of the C partition.  b) On the other side, after completion of the Backup,  I see in the "WindowsImageBackup" Folder  of the destination disk only one si... Read more

A:Is it really an incremental System Image Backup that the Windows 7 version of Windows Backup has created?

Hi there,
1. Microsoft states that the backup function was designed as first backup always full and subsequent backups are always incremental. http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproperf/thread/a413ba37-2cde-4e4f-b23b-e5adab4c8b2dWhen you change the backup destination, the backup wizard will let you chose backup items again and that would make the system believe this is a new Backup Plan.
2. Windows 7 use vhd file for image back and support attach vhd file directly (it’s a great feature). As you have noticed, the folder with name "Backup YYYY.MM.DD hhmmss" is one copy of your image back (full backup with one vhd file). Not sure how can you find several image backup restore info in WinRE, did you use this external drive for image backup for another computer (or save image backup to different partitions)? When you try to run image backup to the same drive for second time, you may receive a warning “Any exiting system images for this machine might be overwriteen.”http://cid-9c88b7cb6fa32a48.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/2010-01-27-ImageBackup.png
Actually, older data will be moved to the shadow copy storage area if it’s available (NTFS formatted internal or external hard disks supports Volume Shadow Copy), Network share and optical media, on the other hand, do not support shadow copy. Therefore only one system image per computer can be stored at a time (as the .vhd file). Any newer backup created will replace the... Read more

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A:Is a backup the same as a system image?

A System Image creates an exact copy of the contents (all files, folders, system settings, etc) on the entire hard drive which can be stored on an external hard drive. System Image is intended for a major catastrophe such as when your computer will no longer boot or severe malware infection.A backup copies your personal files such as those in My Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos. Backup is intended for for restoring items on a small scale in case you accidentally overwrite or delete them.Backup and Restore in Windows 7How to Backup your files in Windows 7How to Restore files from backup in Windows 7What is a system image in Windows 7How to create a Windows system image to back up your programs, system settings, and files in Windows 7How to create a Windows system image in Windows 7 and Windows 8

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I perform an incremental back-up every day using the built-in backup program.

How often would you do a whole system image? I was thinking of only doing that every few months or less. Each image would be 80GB.

A:Backup of system image?

Unless you make a lot of changes, backup once in 15 days.

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I have just created a System Image Backup on my "slave" drive which I had done once before. When I look at the "WindowsImageBackup" folder it is dated prior to my last backup. Does that mean that I didn't get a new image or that it replaced my previous image but didn't change the date?

Also can I move the image to a flash drive or an external HD and restore from there?

A:System Image backup

The correct date of your last image taken should be on the subfolder within WindowsImageBackup.

If in doubt, you can attach the .vhd files in Disk management to browse and edit their contents: Virtual Hard Disk - Create and Attach VHD

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Does anyone know: is the actual backup image created during a system image backup available to be viewed in a directory tree structure anywhere ?

My interest stems from having executed the backup (successfully) onto an external drive from within a 2 500 GB disk RAID 0 environment, comprising several partitions striped across the disks.

Would the disk 0 image have been copied in its entirety, or would all system info as striped across both disks have been copied ?

Likewise, what will the restore operation actually write back, and to where ?

A:System Image Backup

Welcome!

I am by no means the expert on RAID, but I know a bit.

I believe it depends on whether you have a hardware RAID controller or you are using a mirror from Windows. If you have a hardware array, the OS views it as one drive. If not, then you might run into issues.

Hope someone else can come along and correct/add to this.

~JK

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Hi all,I have a question that I hope is not a foolish one.I do a system image backup every month in windows 7.
It also asks me if I want a system repair disc which I did the first time.Do I have to make a new repair disc everytime I do a backup.Thanx,Tony.

A:System image backup

When your computer won't boot, a System Repair Disc is used to bring you into the System Repair Options to perform a system restore, perform an image restore, open a command prompt, or repair the startup environment. It is independent of updates and service packs. Therefore, you do not need to create a System Repair Disc every time you make a system image backup. Also, if you have the Windows 7 Installation DVD, it will work as a System Repair Disc.
 

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In the past I have always used Acronis True Image to create a System Image. However, I have two issues with Acronis, firstly it is not cheap at around 40 ($60 US) per computer and secondly it has more bells and whistles than a Thailand Taxi - consequently I have only ever used about 10% of its functionality.

User data files are no longer an issue because online Cloud storage is either free or very inexpensive. It works well, uses minimal system resources and can be setup to happen seamlessly in the background. So for a user to become physically involved in making backups of data files is quickly becoming a thing of the past. For me it is already a thing of the past.

So the question now is - What is the best solution for creating a System Image Backup in W8.1?

Not to be confused - I am referring specifically here to a "Full System Image Backup" and not to the quick and easy W8.1 Recovery Drive, which is a simple task for which one only needs a relatively low-capacity USB.

Most computers today are delivered with the next-to-useless manufacturers "Recovery Partition". After using a computer for a period of time, who in their right mind would want to revert the machine back to the system state in which it was delivered. I have yet to be convinced that these "Recovery Partitions" are anything but an easy way for Support to provide so-called support while the machine is still under warranty. Just try it - log a support call with a manufacturer wh... Read more

A:System Image Backup

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it says i need a media of at least 1 gb, my cd's are 700 mb: do they make a cd or dvd that's at least 1gb ? can i use blank dvd's ? i made a system repair disk ok; do i need a system image backup, since i have the repair disk ? i don't have a copy of windows/7; thanks

A:system image backup ?

Blank DVD's are 4.7gb. I just backed up a new Acer (Win 7) lap top and it took 4 DVD's

BG

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I decided eventually that I should probably download (whilst it's available) the free Win10 offered by MS.
My PC is not running perfectly by any means & I now think it could take some time to properly sort out the problems.
Maybe an Install of Win10 will help but maybe it won't even install.
 
So I figure I should at least have a backup & system image of what I have now before attempting the Win10 install.
Problem right there. Every time I try I have the same message not enough disc space I I think on C ).
 
Here's what I have:
OS  =  Win7 (64) Home Ed.
C drive: (vssadmin list shadowstorage), on 240Gb SSHD.  Used 114Gb, free 123Gb.
I think somewhere there is a dedicated 100GB section which might not be available ???
The HD I intended to hold the backup has 381Gb free.
 
What is the simplest solution, suggestions, please

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Now that my machine is purring I am interested in a good system image that is bootable.  I will perform this image on an internal HD using a docking station and put the HD away until the next image.  I have looked at several programs that perform these images but just read this BC tutorial for using the Win 7 backup/image.  Very informative and I'm willing to try it.  I also read a couple of the other suggested tuts as well.  I do have a couple of questions if someone can answer them.  
 
1. Can the drive where the image is stored be partitioned to use for backing other data or should it be dedicated to the Win 7 image backup?
2. Will a new image overwrite the old?
3. I want to make sure that the image will be able to boot and replace the system on the main system drive if necessary.  
 
Thanks for any information provided.

A:Win 7 backup/system image ?

The free [email protected] Disk Image software i talk about in your other thread would do just what you need. Save full HDD back up as single file & store other files on the same external HDD. Make sure the drive your going to backup to is bigger than the one your backing up because if not how would a full back up fit.

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I am running Windows 7 Ultimate. I do a complete system image backup each week to an external hard drive. However each new backup seems to overwrite the previous backup. Is there any way to keep several generations of the image backups?

A:System Image Backup

From all I have seen and heard, the Win7 Backup/Restore is not yet ready for prime time. A lot of people had problems with it. And that could be fatal the day you need to recover your system. I would recommend you use a proven program for that. My current favorite is free Macrium because it is really efficient and it works. Here is a little tutorial that I have posted. You'll see it is childs play to use it.
Image your system with free Macrium

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Hello all,
 
Some time ago, I cloned my 128 GB ssd with Win 8 installed on it to a 2 TB hdd for the purpose of having a bootable backup copy of my ssd. So, now I have 128GB of drive space on the 2TB hdd devoted to a copy of Win 8, while the rest is a partition for various data, games and programs. Now I want to update the Win 8 copy on the 2TB drive. If I understand correctly, cloning again will wipe out the data partition on the 2TB drive. I'd like to not lose that data, so I was wondering if a recently made system image backup of the 128 GB ssd can be used on the 2TB drive Win 8 install without wiping out the data partition. Thanks, for your time.

A:System image backup

In theory it could, as you are asked which partitions and/or hard drives you don't want to format, but I've never tried it the way you want to do it and I have a feeling that you wouldn't even be permitted to choose to not format that data partition, but even if you did, I would consider it risky, assuming you don't have all that data backed up elsewhere.
 
I just took a few minutes to think about this a bit more.
Seems to me that I remember wanting to do something similar, so what I did was put the Windows System Image onto the data partition, knowing that Windows couldn't possibly overwrite the image itself while restoring it, thus the data partition would be safe, but it didn't work.
I got a notification to the effect of,
Windows cannot use this image as it is on the drive that needs to be formatted in order to restore the image.
Those are my words, but you get the picture.
 
In short, I don't think there is any way for you to do it, but I'll keep it in the back of my mind and advise you, if I figure out another way.

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hi, i've backup hdd image using built-in backup & restore utility and moved the backup image to usb hdd. just so happened that win7 Ult 64-bit got corrupted last night and i've been trying to re-image since, without success.

the issue is the restore utilit couldn't find my backup image file. and the odd thing is it doesn't allow me to browse to the image file but instead having to connect to "network". where should i copy the backup image file to so that the restore utility can have access to it and re-image the hdd?

i've chosen advance recoery options, and asked to reboot. have tried all that i can find on the web on how to re-image and they all seems pretty easy but somehow it doesn't work for me.

if reboot, it will load recovery console and says windows cannot find a system image on this computer. attach the backup hard disk or insert the final dvd from a backup set and click retry. alternatively, close this dialog for more options.

i've re-installed win7 and trying to restore to the image i created but still having same issue.

any pointers?

tia

A:where to put backup system image?

Hello Foxxkat,

The problem happened when you moved the saved backup from it's original location to another location. When you do this, the backup will no longer be able to be restored from.

You might see if you may be able to manually extract any needed files from the system image backup using the tutorial below though.

System Image - Extract Files Using Disk Management

Hope this helps,
Shawn

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I have just upgraded and am backing up my system image to an external drive. I've noticed that the path showing is
Control Panel> All Control Panel Items> Backup and Restore (Windows 7). I don't understand that path, when I'm dealing with Windows 10. The path is what Windows Backup set without any action from me.

Am I doing something wrong?

A:First system image backup: is this right?

That's OK. You are fine. You didn't do anything wrong.
There is another way to do the same thing..............
Control Panel > File History.
Both Backup and Restore (Windows 7) and File History lead you to the same place...... to run system Image backup.

By the way, you system image backup is store in the ext hdd under WindowsImageBackup folder.

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Has anyone found a system image backup utility in Windows 8 Customer Preview ? I have found some discussion of this that says go to Control Panel / Restore. I can not find that option. I do see Control Panel / Recovery which has system Refresh and Reset options.

A:System Image backup

Hi bnc123 and welcome to Eight Forums. You need to open control panel in large or small icons view to see it. Click at the top right to change the view.

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I have had win 10 on my laptop 5 months or so being upgraded from win 8, 8.1 etc. In this time I have not been able to backup to my (eSATA) external HD. I need to do some program work so I want to back up before going ahead. Before someone says use this or that backup program to accomplish the backup. My desire is to have win 10 able to function properly before taking another road.

When I tried my back up this morning it looked like it was running through the whole process but in the end it said failed to backup, giving code 0x807800C5 . My backup location has 3tb so there is plenty of room for it.

Thanks for any info
Terry

A:Can not Backup or system image, Win 10

Hello Terry,

Can you post a screenshot of your disks and partitions using the disk management window? I am wondering if you might have some partitions that are causing problems with the backup such as multiple EFI system partitions.

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I have an HP Notebook 15-ba020nr that I purchased 8/2016.  Windows 10 OS.  I ran into a problem doing a System Restore and Technical Support walked me through a number of things but in the end I was told I needed to do a System Recovery.  I am doing that now.   I asked Technical support if After doing the System Recovery, if i could restore a System Image Backup that I have on an external HD (USB) that I created in September.  I created the System Image from: Control Panel > System and Security > Backup and Restore (Windows 7) > Create a System Image.  They said "no" I could not do that.  I really would like to be able to do that because I do not want to manually reinstall all my software (I mean the software I purchased later--not the pre-instaled software).  I thought the System Image  backup was just for this purpose. So, I am asking if I can restore a System Image Backup after I do a System Recovery?  If not, an explanation would be nice.  Thank you in advance. Susie

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In the past, system image backups from my Toshiba laptop to an external HD worked, but now I get the error displayed in the JPG attached in this post.
I have done the CHKDSK/R on my hard drive but the backup still fails. I even tried a different external hard drive, but the results are the same. It fails after it is running the backup for a few minutes.
Can anyone suggest a solution? Thanks.

A:System Image Backup fails

I have two recommendations:

1.) Something like this happened to me a couple of times on Win7. Try treeing down and opening EVERYTHING in the navigation pane, and see if you accidentally dragged and dropped a folder or drive into another. Specially look for the drive for your backups somewhere on the C: (system) drive. I causes a link that tries to backup your backup drive, screwing everything up.

2.) Try using Macrium Reflect.

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In Windows 7 you have the ability to do a system image
I know how to do this and it works great on all my machines, in fact one of my hd failed and i used the image to put it all back so I know it works.

I have upgraded 2 window 7 computers to windows 8 Pro and the system image works fine
I just got a new latpop running Windows 8 Pro and when running the system image to the external HD it came up with an error msg that there is not enough space on the external hd to run the image. Now this is impossible because it says it needs 36gis and on this external hd there is 250 gigs free.
I thought maybe it was the external HD so I tried it with another one I have. I even rebooted just in case something hung up,
It came up with the same message, this HD has 500gigs free
What could be causing Windows 8 to think these drives are full?

I used one of these HD's as a test on my upgraded Windows 8 pro desktop just to see if it was the hd, and there it made the image with no complaints at all so it is not the external hds

Maybe one of you can give me a suggestion? btw it makes the system repair disk fine with no problems at all

A:System Image Backup Problem

With the new laptop - if that is what you think it is - have you tried updating your chipset drivers hence you storage driver? You could also go the manufactures website /support and type in the name of the laptop - should bring up a list of drivers -w8 maybe included-if so they may have some help there - with Asus (that's company i stick with) they also have a list of problems and resolutions.

Looking at the hard drive - it may have something left on it, which is causing the issue - i would delete the partitions etc in diskmanagement - scrub it clean (if nothing else works).

Also try the forums at the manufactures site - if there are issues they will appear there.

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Hello my system is dell xps 8300.i have upgraded from windos 7 ultimate(64bit) to windows 8 pro 64 bit.

My system has 1) dell oem partition (no drive ketter 39MB),2) recovery partition (ntfs no drive letter) 13.25 GB free 2.94 Gb,
3) C drive windows system partition 100Gb free 31,24 GB
rest of the two patitions are 175 Gb each (logical drives).

Total my hard disk capacity is 500GB.

what is the difference of taking backup and which is better for recovering the system to original state just before the backup.
1) system image backup(recovery partition & windows sytem partition) using windows 8 system backup..ie using
windows 7 file recovery menu under control panel.
2) creating custom recovery image for refresh.(command: recimage -CreateImage)

I have done both and my backup location is external hard drive of 2TB capacity.

I made system recovery disk(dvd) from the windows 7 file recovery menu.

The custom recovery image wim file is of size 22.GB

The recovery partition backup(vhdx) is of 9GB
and the windows system partition backup is of 43GB.

I have also used macurium reflect pro to take backup of my recovery and windows partition using macurium rescue cd.

kasinath

A:windows 8 system image backup

1) system image backup(recovery partition & windows sytem partition) using windows 8 system backup..ie using
windows 7 file recovery menu under control panel.



Is best.

MS will remove it in the next release.

Fortunately, you have this:






I have also used macurium reflect pro to take backup of my recovery and windows partition using macurium rescue cd.

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Windows 8 Consumer Preview System Image Tutorial:Step 1. Whether your on the Desktop or the MetroUI, mouse over the bottom right corner to expand the Menu and select "Search", then select "Settings" and type in "File Recovery" and select "Windows 7 File Recovery"This will open the window shown below;Step2. Select "Create a system image", which will open the window shown below and search for available disk space. You can then choose your own and click "Next"Step 3. Select the drives, files to be saved, Your Windows OS's are automatically selected. Click "Next"Step 4. Confirm your selection and click "Start Backup"Step 5. Your backup will start.Step 6. Once completed, Windows will then ask if you wish to "Create a System Repair Disc" click your choice. I chose "Yes" as shown below;This concludes the Tutorial for creating a "System Backup" and "Repair Disc" for Windows 8 Consumer Preview.Note: You will notice that it says "Windows 7 File Recovery"Under all the MetroUI, Ribbons and Apps, you are running Windows 7.Regards,Don

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My searches have not turned up anything about this. On my computer, attempts to create a backup fail repeatedly, with these errors:

Error encountered when writing data to backup target (0x80780166)
System cannot find the file specified (0x80070002)

I have deleted the old backup folder from the external hard disk, and when I try to create a new backup, a new folder is created. Other programs write to the external disk, which has 824 GB of 931 GB free.

Any clues, ideas, spells to cast to fin the problem(s)?

A:System Image Backup Failure

Originally Posted by Not Myself


My searches have not turned up anything about this. On my computer, attempts to create a backup fail repeatedly, with these errors:

Error encountered when writing data to backup target (0x80780166)
System cannot find the file specified (0x80070002)

I have deleted the old backup folder from the external hard disk, and when I try to create a new backup, a new folder is created. Other programs write to the external disk, which has 824 GB of 931 GB free.

Any clues, ideas, spells to cast to fin the problem(s)?



Tks, and I am wondering about which application program you are using to make the image backup.
tks for any info. Cliff M.

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Hello guys,
I have an HP laptop that came with Vista Home Premium installed.
Two drivers, the C: driver as usual and a 'D:' driver also known as "HP_RECOVERY".

Now my question is very simple and basic yet I'm baffled not figuring out a way to do it.

Is it possible to clone the image of the OS I'm running currently to that D: drive? What software do I use to do that?

I will also need to mention that the drive size is ~8GB so it's very small. If there is a way to clone the current image to that drive, i will have to extend it and make it bigger, how would you do that also?
Thanks ahead of time.

A:System Backup Clone Image

You can, but it is a very very bad Idea. Unless the D drive is a seperate hard disk drive (HDD). If it is just a partition, and the drive fails you will lose all backups on the D Partition. Most likely the D partition is small (10GB), and is solely for the recovery partion factory Image.

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In your case it is 8GB in size, and It is not recommended to store anything else in there. Delete it if you want, repartition the HDD, create a "data" drive and store the Paragon Image. But keep in mind, if the drive fails, is corrupted, etc., you may lose all the data on the entire drive.

Vista also includes a file backup Utility-but it will not allow backups to partitions on the same HDD as the source.

Now you can modify the partitions, but by doing so you will prevent the recovery image (if you keep it) from being used, as the Main O/S drive will then be smaller that the image, and any recovery will fail.

Partitioner (bootable) must be burned to cd/dvd:
Paragon Partitioner
BURNCDCC


Free drive imaging software:
Free Drive Backup Express - disk backup software

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In the past, system image backups from my Toshiba laptop to an external HD worked, but now I get the error displayed in the JPG attached in this post.
I have done the CHKDSK/R on my hard drive but the backup still fails. I even tried a different external hard drive, but the results are the same. It fails after it is running the backup for a few minutes.
Can anyone suggest a solution? Thanks.

A:System Image Backup fails

I have two recommendations:

1.) Something like this happened to me a couple of times on Win7. Try treeing down and opening EVERYTHING in the navigation pane, and see if you accidentally dragged and dropped a folder or drive into another. Specially look for the drive for your backups somewhere on the C: (system) drive. I causes a link that tries to backup your backup drive, screwing everything up.

2.) Try using Macrium Reflect.

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PLEASE SUGGEST ME SOLOTION FOR SYSTEM IMAGE BACKUP ERROR WHILE DONE ON DVD, WE RECEIVE MESSAGE "CLASS NOT REGISTERED (0X80040154)

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I did my first backup using Windows 7 built-in backup and restore last week. Chose to let windows decide what to backup and also do a system image (basically the default settings). It took quite a long time, almost 4 hours.

Tonight it did its weekly scheduled backup and another sytem image. Since it only copied any new files that part went fast but the system image took a long time, almost 1.5 hours.

When I look at manage space the system image is using 124GB. This seems huge. I thought it should be maybe 20GB or so. Data files being backed up are 71GB. Other files are 4GB for a total of almost 200GB.

This is a relatively new computer so why is the system image so large? Is there a way to verify that it should be that large? Will it always take so long to do the system image?

A:Questions re: backup and system image

The image file also contains you data if it is on the same partition. Also you have done two images backups and this is reporting both of them. Windows sets aside a certain amount of space (I think about 20% of your backup drive) and keeps as many images as it can in this space. So the actual image size is about 60MB which is about the same as mine. You might want to read this tutorial Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup by Brink.

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Hi,

I am using a HP laptop, and as most of you know, it comes with a Recovery partition. So now, I wanted to do a System Image of my C: Drive only, but when I am in the place to select the drive to backup to, it forces me to backup the C:, and Recovery drive, when all I want is to just backup the C: Drive. And I cannot see anywhere the option to not backup the Recovery Partition. Please help.

Thanks,
Slasher

A:System Image Backup Problem

Have you looked at Macrium Reflect Free Edition, which is more flexible and has a saner interface?

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I'm trying to make a system image and configure backups but I'm unable to select the internal drive that has the space I need.

I have a 1Tb drive partioned into C:\ [Win7] and D:\ [Data]
and a 750Gb drive [H:\] that used to have XP on it that I want to put my backups on.
I used to dual boot XP and Win7.

Computer Managment > Disk Management shows

C: Healthy (Boot, Page File, Active, Crash Dumo, Primary Partition)
D: Healthy (Primary Partition)
H: Healthy (System, Active, Primary Partition)

System Imaging/Backup help says you can't backup to the system (startup) drive (not sure why?)

Is there any way to change which drive is designated as the system drive?

I've removed the dual boot and used bcdedit on C: to only reference itself
What's else do I need to do to make C: the system drive?

Thanks

- Norm

A:Backup/System Image problem

That H drive has boot files for XP. As long as those files are there, it will not let you back up to it. You can remove them and put them back if you ever want to boot to XP again.

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Hey folks!

Okay, now that I've got Windows 7 RC properly installed and running flawlessly, I've decided the following:

- I want to buy a WD Caviar Black 640GB HD and install it as my main hard drive;
- And, I want to create a system image my current system because
- a) it's running perfectly right now;
- b) i want to migrate it from my current Hitachi pewp drive over to the new bigger, faster WD drive.

So, all that being said, once the new WD Caviar Black HD is installed, how do I migrate the system from one HD to the other?

I was thinking I create a System Backup via this tutorial (Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup[2]=Backup%20Restore) and then Restore it onto the new HD? Is that even correct? Is there an easier, faster way to do it?

Any help, much appreciate as always.

Thanks!

A:System Backup & Image Question

Hi,

You can clone a hard disk of any file system. During the hard disk copying process, the program moves controlling records , the bootstrap code and on-disk partitions. That?s why this operation cannot be substituted by simply copying all on-disk partitions.

Best to use a special program for the job - Paragon products are excellent



Do you have anything like that?

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In Windows 7 you have the ability to do a system image
I know how to do this and it works great on all my machines, in fact one of my hd failed and i used the image to put it all back so I know it works.

I have upgraded 2 window 7 computers to windows 8 Pro and the system image works fine
I just got a new latpop running Windows 8 Pro and when running the system image to the external HD it came up with an error msg that there is not enough space on the external hd to run the image. Now this is impossible because it says it needs 36gis and on this external hd there is 250 gigs free.
I thought maybe it was the external HD so I tried it with another one I have. I even rebooted just in case something hung up,
It came up with the same message, this HD has 500gigs free
What could be causing Windows 8 to think these drives are full?

I used one of these HD's as a test on my upgraded Windows 8 pro desktop just to see if it was the hd, and there it made the image with no complaints at all so it is not the external hds

Maybe one of you can give me a suggestion? btw it makes the system repair disk fine with no problems at all

A:System Image Backup Problem

With the new laptop - if that is what you think it is - have you tried updating your chipset drivers hence you storage driver? You could also go the manufactures website /support and type in the name of the laptop - should bring up a list of drivers -w8 maybe included-if so they may have some help there - with Asus (that's company i stick with) they also have a list of problems and resolutions.

Looking at the hard drive - it may have something left on it, which is causing the issue - i would delete the partitions etc in diskmanagement - scrub it clean (if nothing else works).

Also try the forums at the manufactures site - if there are issues they will appear there.

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I have two external hard drives, WD-RED 2.0 TB, each is installed in a "Plugable" USB3-SATA-USASP1 SCSI Disk drive plugged into separate USB drives on my Dell Inspiron. (Drives F: and G The first is a tad full and will no longer fit another system image. So, I wanted to backup to the second which has plenty of space, being mostly unused. I just finished a file backup, to G: but cannot write a system image because Windows 10 does not show the drive as an eligible backup device!

The only difference I can see in properties of the two file systems is that the second one allows files and content to be indexed.

Suggestions?

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Hi All, I have just ventured into system imaging & am finding my way around with it
I know there is a lot of options available but i have just started with the basics of creating a partition and useing the Windows system image backup to get the feel of things
All things aside my question is; "what are the chances of a system image becoming infected by a virus or malware"?
"Is it safe to exclude it from on demand scans or should i always include it?"
This is probably one of those dumb questions but it is one that has puzzled me for a long time ever since the intoduction of Recovery Partitions

A:System Image backup & Scanning

Clean all temps, including history,java and cookies.
Empty recycle bin
Run your antivirus and antispyware scans
Defrag

Now, if everything is clean, set a new restore point. You should be safe to create a system image backup

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Hi,

I have W7 PC with Windows preinstalled by the manufacturer (ASUS).

I want to save a copy of my W7 OS on a DVD, just in case my HD crashes and I need to buy a new HD and get Windows reinstalled.

I do not need to backup my personal files and folders.

Is System Image Backup the correct way to accomplish this.....?

If so, how do I exclude non Windows OS files from the backup....?


Thank you,
boyboyds.

A:System Image Backup - I am still confused.

  
Quote: Originally Posted by boyboyds


I want to save a copy of my W7 OS on a DVD, just in case my HD crashes and I need to buy a new HD and get Windows reinstalled.

Is System Image Backup the correct way to accomplish this.....?

If so, how do I exclude non Windows OS files from the backup....?


Yes, imaging is what you need.

You exclude non Windows OS files from the backup by moving them off the C partition. Imaging captures everything in the chosen partition.

There are imaging apps other than the Windows built-in app that some say are preferable--Macrium, Acronis, for instance.

However, if you don't already have an ordinary Window 7 installation disc, you should also probably download an ISO of one from mydigitallife.info and burn it to a disc.

The burned ISO will give you a clean installation of Windows.

The image file will, if restored, restore your C drive to the state it was in at the time you made the image---which is not the same as a clean install.

If your hard drive fails, its up to you to decide if you want to do a clean install onto the new drive or instead restore an image.

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hi, I'm new to this forum and the answer is probably somewhere in here but I'll ask it anyway. I am looking for a program that will back up my computer and restore it to its previous state after it crashes and the hard drive has to be wiped clean. Specifically MS flight Sim X. I have had to re-install my flight sim program 3 times now after a computer crash and it takes days to re-install all the scenery, aircraft and multiplayer connections like TeamSpeak and FSUIPC, FSCopilot FSinn, ACARS, VASIM, and so on. I would like to have all the settings come back the same as when the computer crashed...is that possible?

Thanks
 

A:System Mirro Image Backup

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Hello,

I'm amazed what are the real differences between backup and system image. I've heard that system image stores all data plus programs (including operating system) stored on the Windows drive (say, C:\) and on the other hand, backup only stores data of Windows drive (C:\).

In this state, system image has more power to saves us from lacks of OS, apps and also data.
But in steps of backing up in Windows 7, there is some writing that says, "it also create a system image"! So in this status, backup is backup of data + system image, so has everything of the both in itself. Is it correct?

A:Differences between backup and system image

Hello Kurdman,

You are correct on the differences.

When you setup a Windows Backup, you have the option to also include creating a system image at the same time. They are still separate items though.

Backup User and System Files

Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup

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Hey all. I'm new to BETA-testing an OS, and I was wondering, if I had backed up my computer's files to a system image, and upgrade to a newer build of Windows 7, would I be able to restore all my computer's files and programs through that image?

I'm currently using Windows 7 Build 7000.

Also, if my comp has both C and D drives, when I backup, both drives are saved, correct?

Thanks in advance.

~ Bioran

A:System Backup Image with New Build

A few backup products make a 'system image'. If you are talking about that included with Windows, I have found it too difficult to use as the restore boot CD seems to need an installed OS to restore over (meaning it is more meant for recovery to a broken same OS rather than a different OS). I prefer a product that does not care and can restore to an empty hard drive, since I prefer to clean a broken HD rather than restore over a dead OS. That is from my toying with it over the years.

I have used Acronis True Image for 5-7 yrs with no problems, but it is a purchased product (trial period ver is avail). Unfortunately TI does not install at this minute on W7x64 (x86 is fine), but their recovery CD works fine for both backup and restore on X64.

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I do not know for sure if system image is the right word to describe what i am looking to do, i will describe what i want so you can tell me if it is what a system image does or if it is something else.
 
The thing i am looking to do is as follows, write the necessary stuff to a USB drive at time T=0. Then at time T=later if something went wrong  (my system hardware, or i had a severe virus infection, or something went wrong with my software, or even if i had to dump the original system hardware completely and get a brand new piece of hardware to run my system on) i could plug this USB stick into the repaired/brand new/wiped machine and after a few "hours-minutes-back to hours-now it's days-oh sorry just 10 seconds left " of file copy dialog (or whatever the equivalent is for copying the stuff across under these circumstances) my old system as it was at time T=0 would now be running on the repaired, wiped or brand new hardware. Is this what a system image does or is a system image more limited in it's abilities than that? I'm looking for a method where in an emergency you could wipe a system completely, or find a new one, and use this USB to install onto it the old system exactly as it was at T=0. 
 
For whatever process is needed to create that "emergency repair" USB drive (which would allow a user to recreate an old system exactly as it was at a previous time on repaired/wiped/new hardware  ) can som... Read more

A:making a "system image" backup, how?

You are correct, this would be referred to as a system image backup. When you say USB stick, keep in mind that the drive you store the system image file needs to be atleast as big as the "used" space on your hard drive. You probably will need an external hard drive which has more storage capacity than a USB stick.
 
There are a few free programs that can do this, but Windows has this function built-in.
 
There is actually a great article here on BC about creating a Windows 7/8 system image backup: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/create-system-image-in-windows-7-8/. Just scroll down to the section How to create a backup system image in Windows 7 and Windows 8 for instructions on creating a manual backup.
 
As far as restoring the system image, here is another BC article that walks you through the process: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/system-image-recovery-in-windows-7-8/
 
Keep in mind that unless you paid for a Retail Windows license, you can't install Windows on a new computer, or even the same computer with a different motherboard. If your computer came with Windows, the license only applies to that computer. However, if you buy a new computer that comes with Windows, there should be a way to work around the licensing issue, as the new computer comes with it's own license (but only if the new computer has the exact same version of Windows as your old computer). Isn't Windows licensing just super fun? 

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hey , this a stupid question, i think. but i just can't understand what is the deference between a system restore image and a backup data image etc? i've heard that u can save both a system restore image and backup at the same time to an external hard drive : for example, f:drive\name of pc user\backupImageSet YYYY-MM-DD HHMMSS is this correct? how is this possible , thank you

A:backup/restore system image?

As Brink says, "There are no dumb questions, just the people who do not ask them."

A "plain backup" usually just backs up data files, while a system image backs up everything on your drive. A system image is a kind of backup. To confuse things, it depends on which backup/imaging program you use as to whether or not you can extract individual files. The native Windows 7 tool lets you create a "plain backup" of data files, or a full system image. But you cannot restore individual files from the system image.

Let's say you accidentally delete an important letter that had been in your Documents folder. Either a system image or a data backup could restore that letter. But if all you had was a Windows 7 system image, you'd have to restore the entire hard drive and not just the letter. That's why the native Windows 7 lets you select what kinds of backups you want to create: a data backup, a system image, or both. Other backup software (like Macrium, EaseUS Todo, Paragon, etc) offer more flexibility than the native Windows 7 imaging tool.

Hope this doesn't make it even more confusing.

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I would like to backup a bad drive and replace it with a new drive (160gb WD in both cases)

I cannot back up the system image from the bad drive to the new drive (hangs up).

The bad drive was an upgrade from Vista to Windows 7.

What can I do?

A:BACKUP BAD DRIVE (SYSTEM IMAGE)

It depends what you mean by bad drive, but I am going to take it to mean that there is data that is not physically readable? If that is the case, then you are not going to be able to back up the data since the bad disk can not be read in order to retrieve the information. Are there any errors being generated?

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