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New Lenovo Vantage no longer has the ability to swap Ctrl and Fn

Q: New Lenovo Vantage no longer has the ability to swap Ctrl and Fn

I had swapped my Fn and Ctrl keys in the old Vantage software and decided I didn't like it after all. Now there is a new version of Vantage on my laptop and that feature is gone. Any ideas how I could swap it back? This in on an ThinkPad X1.

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Hi, is there any possibility to change/Swap the FN and the Ctrl-key? I know, there is an option in the BIOS of many models, but I can't find it in the Helix 2's BIOS. The nevest version of the BIOS (1.87) is installed. Thanks for your help in advance.

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Hello! I'm using Lenovo B70-80 with bios version D1CN93WW and it doesn't provide an option for swaping the Fn and Ctrl keys.I am used to ThinkPad's keyboard and I do need this!I see that the lastest bios version available is the D1CN96WW. Does this version povide this option?Or is there any other way I can achieve this on Lenovo B70-80? Thank you!

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Good evening, sir,I recently bought this new Lenovo Legion Y540 15 inch PC and I was satisfied with the lenovo vantage software. However, by updating everything (operating system, bios, drivers, etc ...), the software doesn't want to display the main menu anymore and leaves the message: "Services for Lenovo Vantage are being upgraded, please wait.".It's been now several hours, even whole nights by leaving it running but nothing, I don't have a low flow and everything seems to work but it can't display the main menu. I tried to reinstall it, but nothing has changed... (ps: I install it from the microsoft shop).Can you help me, cordially.

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I have lenovo thinkpad yoga s1 with BIOS latest update but ctrl and fn key still swapped even BIOS keyboard/mouse setting have disabled it. Can you tell me how to fix this? Thank you.

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Has anyone else's Lenovo Battery Power Conservation Mode stopped working? I have a Lenovo FLEX 5-1570 and Conservation Mode recently stopped functioning. Everything else appears to be working fine but now when I have my laptop plugged in, it charges to 100% and remains there. I've tried turning Conservation Mode off and back on. I've tried rebooting. I've tried reinstalling the BIOS and Chipset software. None of these fix the problem. The worst part is Lenovo "support". Lenovo hardware support is completely separate from Lenovo software support and they do not talk to one another. Lenovo hardware support provided no support other than suggesting trying to reinstall the BIOS and Chipset updates. (My best guess is their latest BIOS update created the problem.) Lenovo software support will not provide support for their own software, even though the laptop is under warranty, without paying extra for it! Knowing this now, I will never buy another Lenovo product.

A:Conservation Mode for Lenovo Vantage no longer working

Laura545, that topic thread appears to be slightly different than the one I'm experiencing. My Conservation Mode does not disable itself. It just no longer works even though Lenovo Vantage states it is enabled. I found this topic thread which is more like the issue I'm experiencing: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-IdeaPad-100-305-500-Edge/Lenovo-Ideapad-700-conservation-mode-no... It appears as though Lenovo has been reintroducing this bug for a while now.

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Hi, I recently was prompted to do an optional update to the touchpad driver via Lenovo vantage. Since then the custom settings for the touchpad have reverted to the generic windows mouse settings. There used to be options to turn off taps, gestures etc. I have set the touchpad to low sensitivity for taps but it's still too sensitive when using the touchpad and it often clicks on things I don't want it to. I have uninstalled the drivers and reinstalled based on my serial number and still the same. I'd have thought this is how it is but knowing that I used to be able to turn things off like taps, then this is why I am trying to find a solution. So far haven't had much luck with support via Live chat with Lenovo or via email. Can someone help? I need taps turned off and want to be able to access those settings like just recently.

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I am trying to launch Lenovo Vantage, but it's stuck forever at "Services for Lenovo Vantage are upgrading, please wait." I am using a Yoga 710-14IKB. How can I get past this?

A:Lenovo Vantage stuck forever at "Services for Lenovo Vantage are upgrading, please wait."

Hi @halfbeing,
 
Greetings!
 
To resolve the issue, kindly uninstall the Lenovo Vantage app and the Lenovo System Interface Foundation app as well. Restart the computer then install the Vantage app again. Found similar discussion here. 
 
Thanks!
Auxen

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Hi guys, I want to install latest version of Lenovo Vantage. As I uninstalled old version Lenovo Vanage from Control Panel or CCleaner, the Lenovo vantage Serive still run in my laptop and when I uninstall Lenovo vantage service which state"unintall missing". When I installed  latest version Lenovo Vantage from Mircosoft Store, the Lenovo Vantage was still to be old version. I have tried many times, but the new versional can't be intalled properly. Thank you so much.

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Hi community,I recently set up a new Lenovo T470s and enabled the Ctrl+Fn Swap on BIOS, but when this function is enabled, the right CTRL keeps totally dead. Is there any way to remap this?I am used to work with a T460s with Windows 8.1 and it works perfectly, but now with Windows 10 it's not working anymore.

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In this first screenshot of Lenovo Vantage running under Windows 10 (64) on my X1 Yoga (1st generation), please notice where it says that I need to install Sierra Wireless EM7455 Software - 10 (64), version 7.47.4743.0105.  However, in the second screenshot, please notice where the Installation History shows that Sierra Wireless EM7455 Software - 10 (64), version 7.47.4743.0105 was successfully installed already. Everytime I boot up and run Lenovo Vantage to check for updates, it tells me that I need Sierra Wireless EM7455 Software - 10 (64), version 7.47.4743.0105 so I let it install it. Everytime I install it, the installation appears to be successful and my computer reboots, but then after rebooting, Lenovo Vantage again tells me that (1) I need it, (2) I already have it. This is crazy.  In the third screenshot (looking at Windows Device Manager) I see the Sierra Wireless EM7455 Qualcomm Snapdragon X7 LTE-A. The fourth screenshot shows that it is disabled.  I will enable this and then retry to install the updated. I'll report back in a second posting on this thread whehter it works.  (I would leave this posting open and finish it later, but I'm afraid it woud all be lost when I reboot).   

A:ENDLESS LOOP: Lenovo Vantage Tells Me To Update a Driver That Vantage Says Is Already Up to Date.

After enabling the driver in Windows Device Manager, then again trying to update, the update was successful. After another reboot, Lenovo Vantage no longer show that this needs to be updated.  I'm no programmer, but it seems to me that the Lenovo Vantage update program ought to be able to see whether a driver is disabled and to tell the user to enable it in order to allow successful of updating of the driver. My 2.

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Lenovo Vantage worked perfectly on my T60P until recently. Now whenever I load it I get this error: "Services for Lenovo Vantage are installing, please wait. You are about to see the Windows User Account Control dialog. Please accept it to ensure that Vantage service is installed correctly." I've uninstalled and reinstalled, as well as uninstalled system devices as in a different thread, but nothing. I can't update anything or check Vantage and even an older version of Vantage that I tried is broken and keeps trying to get me to download Interface, which I have and installed. This is a disaster, please help.

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Hi, I recall reading some posts that  a technican or Lenovo changed the version of Vantage to Exterprise and the user's problem solved. Something like that. How do we get the Exterprise version? What advantages does it has over the standard vantage?

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I mean, what is the point of Lenovo switching the keys? Why try to be "different" in this kind of way? Almost as bad as the 2nd Gen touchpad FN keys or whatever the crap it was called. 

A:Anyone else swap the FN and CTRL key?

Couldn't agree more. And to think that all other Lenovo products actually have the Ctrl and Fn keys in the right place. The Thinkpad arrangement makes no sense at all.

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My colleague's pc suddenly would no longer respond when she pressed ctrl+p, then a day later she discovered that her ctrl+f no longer works. We tried to reassign it, but it appears that ctrl+p and ctrl+f are still correctly assigned to the print and find commands.

We have tried deleting the ctrl+p keyboard shortcut and then putting it back in, but somehow when we press the ctrl button and the p together nothing happens (we can type in ctrl q for example, just not ctrl together with p).

When we press "reset all", the ctrl+p is back under "current keys", but still doesn't work.

This is happening in all applications. We have also tried attaching a different keyboard and tried plugging it in different usb ports. Nothing made a difference.

Has anyone got any ideas what might be causing this?
 

A:CTRL+P and CTRL+F no longer functions

I do not know which operating system you are running but maybe try this option first :

http://support.microsoft.com/fixit/
 

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My colleague's pc suddenly would no longer respond when she pressed ctrl+p, then a day later she discover that her ctrl+f no longer works. We tried to reassign it, but it appears that ctrl+p and ctrl+f are still correctly assigned to the print and find commands.

We have tried deleting the ctrl+p keyboard shortcut and then putting it back in, but somehow when we press the ctrl button and the p together nothing happens (we can type in ctrl q for example, just not ctrl together with p).

When we press "reset all", the ctrl+p is back under "current keys", but still doesn't work.

This is happening in all applications. We have also attached a different keyboard and tried plugging it in different usb ports. All with the same result.

Has anyone got any ideas what might be causing this?

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It's a question that many have asked before, but I can't find any proper solution to. I have an Erazer X315, and the keyboard that was shipped with the computer has the Fn key on the lower left, with the Ctrl key to the right of it. I have already tried looking for the option to switch it in the bios, as well as downloading multiple programs that could remap the keys. As none of these have worked, I am desperate for help from someone who has a working solution.

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My laptop is X1 tablet 3rd. After Lenovo vantage updated, the option of Swap Fn and Ctrl have been cancelled. I can't swap Fn and Ctrl right now. The keyboard of BIOS does't have option of SWAP Fn and Ctrl. It's really hard for me to use two buttons. How can I do to swap them? Thank you. 

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Hi guys, My laptop is thinkpad X1 3rd. I have asked this question before, and thanks for green5178 to tell me the link of Discovery_20.1908.3.0.zip which provide the setting of swaping Fn and Ctrl. However, I can't find such swap in the Lenovo vantage even restallment. The BIOS does't have such option to swap FN and Ctrl. It's really inconvenient for me to use this keyboard. Moreover, the functions of F1-F12 also change from its orignal function. My job requires me to press F1-F12 for its orginal function. But now I have to press Fn+(F1...F12). How can I swap Fn and Ctrl keys and set F1-F12 to its orignial functions? Thank you so much.

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I've got a new Precision 5520 running Ubuntu 16.04. After at least ten years using a MacBook Pro, my left hand demands that the Ctrl and Fn keys be swapped. I understand the Fn key is handled at the lowest level. Poking around in the BIOS, I could find no way to swap them at that level. Is there a way to accomplish this seemingly simple feat, perhaps using xmodmap (which I've not investigated yet, as it seems to be too high level)?

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After doing a quick search, I see that this topic has been brought up before, though no one has answered. Do Lenovo customer service folks chime in on this forum? Is there any chance that this can be resolved, as the current "fly in the face of the rest of the industry" approach makes the keyboard very miserable to use (and it's extra gaulling as other Lenovo laptops do have a bios setting that allows for the swap, but not the helix, for whatever random reason). If there is no official solution for this, does anyone have any suggestions? I've tried a couple of keyboard remappers like Sharpkeys, but none of them seem to recognize FN as a key/function that can be remapped. Really at my wits end here and hoping for a little good news

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I need a way to swap the Fn and Ctrl keys! This is absolutely destroying my user experience with this product. I do not have a choice as this laptop was provided by my employer, but I will do everything that I can to either fix this issue or to get my employer to buy laptops elsewhere. I have a Lenovo ThinkPad T420 and I find the fact that the Fn key is to the right of the Ctrl key very irritating. I have been using computers for 20 years and the Ctrl key has always been the right most key on the keyboard. Not only is it hard to overcome the muscle memory which I have developed, but it also puts considerable strain on my fingers. This oversight in keyboard design also makes it very hard to switch back and forth between computers. This seemingly small problem is magnified by the fact that I spend an average of 10 hours a day in front of computers. Please post a BIOS fix to remap these two keys. Key-remapping utilities that I have explored do not have the ability to remap the Fn key because it is controlled by the hardware.













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A:How can I swap the Fn and Ctrl keys?

Balvenie15 wrote: 
Please post a BIOS fix to remap these two keys. Key-remapping utilities that I have explored do not have the ability to remap the Fn key because it is controlled by the hardware.

Hi Balvenie15
 
From what I know, previous batch of ThinkPad (starting with T400, T500, X200, W500, W700) already have an option to swap Fn and Ctrl keys. This links also provides another link to explain why it is designed this way.
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T500-and-newer-T-series/Why-is-the-FN-key-on-the-outside-left-inste...
 
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Hello everyone, I am considering purchasing a Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon generation 6 ( https://www.dustin.se/product/5011075648/thinkpad-x1-carbon ). My only concern with this laptop is that the Ctrl and Fn keys in the lower left corner are placed in the wrong order. As far as I understand, in previous generations of the X1, it has been possible to swap the functions of these to keys either through the use of a BIOS feature or using some form of software called Lenovo Vantage. Despite extensive googling, I have been unable to find anyone confirming that this is still possible with the generation 6 version of the laptop. Does anyone know whether this is the case or not? Thanks in advance!

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Is there a way to swap the functions of Fn key and left Ctrl key on the keyboard. I'm used to other keyboards where the keys are switched and I keep pressing Fn when I want to press Ctrl.  I figure I'll get used to it eventually, but when I use the laptop in a docking station with a regular keyboard the control key is in one spot and undocked with the Lenovo keyboard the function key is there instead, which makes it hard to get used to. If not is there a way to disable the Fn + Space bar function that changes the screen resolution. The programs I use use control + space heavily and my screen resolution keeps changing when I don't want it to. It's a small thing I know, but very maddening.

A:Is there a way to swap the Fn key and left Ctrl key

dan, welcome to the forum. unfortunately Fn and Ctrl cannot be swapped.   this has been suggested by users many times so i'm sure lenovo will give the idea heavy consideration. Fn + space can be disabled by uninstalling the 'on-screen magnifier' app from the add/remove programs or programs and features control panel depending on whether you use XP or vista.

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Hi -- I've looked through BIOS and don't see the option to manage or change my keyboard configuration to swap these two buttons. Is there any other way to swap the keys with this machine?

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Is it possible to add the function in BIOS to switch Ctrl and Fn? I'm a user from ThinkPad, and I prefer the ThinkPad sytle layout.

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Hi, I would like to have the Ctrl key leftmost. I tried this:https://support.lenovo.com/cz/en/documents/ht074187 but my BIOS does not have the swap keys option in Config -> keyboard/mouse. Any other way to do this? Thanks,Adam

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How can I swap the function (Fn) and control (Ctrl) keys? I have tried going into the BIOS only to find the option to do so is not there, and I also cannot find a way to change them via Lenovo Vantage (if there is a way to search settings in Vantage, I haven't found it).

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I've found a web page that explains in an idiot-proof way how to swap these two keys.

I just need someone with more experience than I in registry editing to confirm that this method is safe, and will work.

Thanks in advance!

A:Swap Ctrl and Caps Lock via registry

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It's a question that many have asked before, but I can't find any proper solution to. I have an Erazer X315, and the keyboard that was shipped with the computer has the Fn key on the lower left, with the Ctrl key to the right of it. I have already tried looking for the option to switch it in the bios, as well as downloading multiple programs that could remap the keys. As none of these have worked, I am desperate for help from someone who has a working solution.
 
Mod's Edit: System model added to the front of Subject line to improve visibility / clarity.
 

A:Erazer X315 - How can I swap the Fn and Ctrl keys?

Welcome to the Lenovo Community !
 
Keyboards are relatively inexpensive.  Have you consider swapping the keyboard for one that has the keys arranged to your preference? 

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