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SCSI MMC Programming on Sata drive

Q: SCSI MMC Programming on Sata drive


Not sure whether to put this here or programming section seen as its more of a hardware issue. Anyway, I am currently designing some software which will be able to send SCSI defined multimedia commands MMC which are defined by SCSI.

I am going to be using a SATA connected Blu-ray/DVD drive. When MMC commands are sent using IOCTL the drive should return information held on an optical disc.

The question I have is are MMC, well SCSI commands compatible for use with a SATA interface? I am unsure whether the protocols are different or not. I'll be using windows xp.


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Preferred Solution: SCSI MMC Programming on Sata drive

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I'm a little confused. In the course of trying to speed up my computer a little bit, I came across something interesting and puzzling. The rig is a Dell Dimension C521 with 2G ram and an AMD 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ at 2GHz running windows Vista Business.

As you'll see below in the device manager, it tells me that I have a SCSI drive. Yet, when I take the case apart, it sure looks to me like SATA. It's got a SATA cable, etc. Unless they changed the SCSI cable, it has to be SATA. I remember SCSI cables as being fat ribbons from my Mac days (MacPlus, IIsi, PB160, etc.).

Am I going crazy, did I miss something, or is the computer going crazy.

Thanks for your sanity, Sam

A:Is this a SCSI drive or SATA?

find the model number of the drive on the drive unit and google for it. That might tell you if you have a scsi or sata drive.

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I have an HP desktop computer running WIndows 7. The motherboard has an nVidia chipset. I also have 2 standard SATA hard drives and a SATA SSD drive attached. When I bring up Device Manager, all of the drives are listed as SCSI drives. Anyone know if there are any driver updates that can fix this? I'm not really worried that they are mislabeled, but the SSD is not performing well, even after the typical tweaks. In fact, one of the tweak applications can't identify the drive mode. It should either be IDE or AHCI. In any case, NOT SCSI. My BIOS doesn't have any settings to change IDE/AHCI modes, so I have been told this needs to be done through software.

Any suggestions?

A:Why does my SATA drive show up as SCSI?

Maybe the driver for the controller determines what the OS sees.
all my drives list as ATA

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hi my new sata hard drive is showing as a scsi in win7
and it seems to be running slow and making alot of accessing data noises
how can i fix this back to sata

A:new sata hard drive showing as scsi in win 7 help

With some hard disk controllers it is normal for it to show up as a SCSI disk - particularly if the disk controller is running in AHCI mode, which is preferrable since it allows features such as NCQ. One thing you may want to check is: locate the drive itself under "Disk Drives" in device manager and go into the properties. Select the "Policies" tab and view what is set. For better performance you will want it set to "Better Performance" with both of the boxes checked. Though if you lose power you may run into minor file corruption issues - I personally have not had issues with this. If you disable those check-boxes performance can decrease significantly.
-David Betournay

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Hello, this is my first post here. I have an HP Workstation x4000 I use at work for Designing CAD Models. This is an old computer. My problem is that I am out of room on the Hard Drive. It is a 58 GB SCSI,68pin HP Hard Drive. My IT support guy purchased me a 1GB SATA Drive,Raid Card,enough Memory to fill the MEC Card, and Norton Ghost to flash over the new Drive. My problem is, the Card he bought will not fit into the Mobo. The ribbon in the Computer has an empty plug and a power plug,but they are for a 68 pin SCSI Hard Drive. Is there a cable made that I can use to simply plug the SATA Hard drive into the 68 pin ribbon,or do I need a card? Do they make such a thing? My boss is extremely frugal and doesn't want to hear that the best thing would be to replace the 12 year old computer! Thanks for any help you guys can give me

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Hey guys,
Ill try and keep this straight and to the point but at this point myself, intel, and dell are baffled. I have a Dell XPS730 with the Nvidia Nforce 790i chipset. I run two 500 gig SATA drives under RAID 0. I recently installed an Intel X25 80 gig SSD and have ran into problems. Windows recognizes the drive as SCSI in device manager. Granted it works however because it is listed as SCSI TRIM and the intel toolbox wont work which makes an SSD useless.

After tons of research I have found that because of the Nvidia chipset it makes the drive show up as SCSI. I have tried Vista and Windows 7, both show it as SCSI. I have moved the SATA cable away from the other main 4 that support RAID with no luck. I have refomatted several times as well with no luck. I have completely disabled RAID in the bios and it STILL shows as SCSI. Is there any way to get around this? I have read that changing the nvidia controller drivers may work but im not sure what I would switch them to? I am totally lost and any info would be MUCH appreciated!

A:SATA SSD Drive shows up as SCSI - Rediculously baffled...

Windows will do this with some Sata Controllers.

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Hello All,

I just got my hands on a Compaq 36.4 gb hard drive (10k RPM). It has an scsi port connector but I don't know how to connect it to my ECS board which is fairly new (one of those SLI-status boards). I might need a converter of some sort. The hard drive model is: BD0366459B , my board model is ECS 945-p ( http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/mainboard/ecs-945p-a-i945p.html ) .

Thanks ahead of time.

A:Hard Drive Compatibility?:confused: SCSI to IDE or SATA?

According to this site
Product Name BD0366459B
CD-ROM Drive Compaq CRD-8402B
Hard Disk Drive Compaq BD0366459B; 9.09 GB; Firmware 3B12; Wide Ultra3SCSI
BD0366459B; 145. GB; 291. GB; Firmware B005; Wide Ultra3SCSI
Host Bus Adapter Compaq Integrated Dual-Channel Wide-Ultra SCSI-3 ControllerClick to expand...

You need

(1) a SCSI-3 controller to be installed into the mobo
(2) a Wide Ultra3SCSI cable

You may get the hard disk cheap but could get rip off by the hardware needed to go with SCSI equipment.

The Sata can be viewed as a poor man's SCSI but at least your mobo support 4 units out of the box. I doubt if a SCSI can be cheaper than Sata nowadays which is being retailed at GBP 0.128 per Gb. Thus the 36.4Gb unit would cost no more than GBP 4.65 in UK which, if being a Sata disk, is equivalent to approximately one imperial gallon of petrol. That amount of money will not be able to buy either one the above two attachments required to run the unit.

Technically if you run a Sata Raid 0 to half the access time it should beat the SCSI disk performance hand down, I would have thought.

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What are the differences between all of these?

I'll probably not use SCSI, but I was looking at the WD raptor 10K rpm hard drive (SATA). Do you need a special motherboard or certain controller to run this hard drive? And do you need a special CABLE for it? I have tons of 80pin IDE cables, but those wouldn't work?


A:HARD DRIVE question - SCSI vs SATA vs EIDE

Nope won't work. Different drives, cables, controllers. Some motherboards now come with the SATA interface built in. For more information check this site out. Its an OLD report on SATAs. Hard drives are now available for SATA use.


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I have a problem with Sony PMB software not recocnizing my DVD RW. Sony says its because my computer see's my drive as a scsi. It is a Sony DVD RW that is hooked up with a SATA cable to mobo. The box that the DVD RW drive came in shows it as a SATA. Do i need to do something in the BIOS to correct this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

A:[SOLVED] Dvd drive listed as scsi hooked up as sata.

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I have a Dell Tower Computer (Circa 2000-2002) that runs RIP software (Raster Image Processor) used to send graphics/image data to a machine that makes by way of laser imaging our plates or masters for our offset printing presses. Monday the hard drive failed. The Dell has Windows XP license decals on it but when booting up it display Windows 2000 NT. The computer has only 1 hard drive, a 68 pin SCSI drive and the cable to it connects to separate dual channel SCSI card which is in a slot on the motherboard. There is another SCSI card (single channel) in the slot next to it which has a cable that goes to the machine that this computer drives. The software that runs on this computer is proprietary software and I have a re-install disk for it being send via UPS Next Day Air as I type. I have an XP disk & license that I can install on what ever hard drive I can get to work here and the RIP software manufacturer said their software would work on XP. But I don't have a copy of Windows 2000 NT.

My question is that if I can't find this same hard drive locally, can I use an IDE or a SATA hard drive instead and still run the RIP software correctly? There is 2 IDE (primary & secondary) connectors directly on the motherboard. One is used for the CD rom drive, the other is unused. I am not certain but I don't believe the motherboard has a SATA connection. I have 2 good spare IDE hard drives.

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A:SCSI hard drive died - can i switch to ide or sata?

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Have a W540 with the Samsung MZ7TE512HMHP-0001L SATA Solid State drive.  Noticed after one of the updates from either MS or Lenovo, the driver changed to a SCSI driver, and the performance has slowed.  It now shows a 6.3 on the windows experience, vs the 7.6 it did before.  I haven't seen a SCSI drive in years and doubt that is what is rockin in this workstation. Things I have tried:1. Update driver (says I have the correct driver)2. Run Lenovo Support utilites Suggestions welcome

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Hello, I'm having some problems with pointers whilst trying to program scsi commands. The error comes from:

"driveInquiry.OperationCode6 = "SCSIOP_INQUIRY"; /*ERROR OCCURS HERE*/"

error - c71 assignment makers integer from pointer without cast

I got a similar section of code compiling further down in the SCSI pass through direct structure however I dont think its the correct way, which wont work.

"UCHAR dataIn;

I had the code compiling but it wasnt returning drive info. I did this by putting pointers struct's at the top of the code which isnt correct.

Any help would be appriciated.


#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <windows.h>
#include <winioctl.h>

//*Reference region code - chech data types - UCHAR etc...
typedef struct _inquiryCDB{
UCHAR OperationCode6; //* 0x12 - SCSIOP_INQUIRY
UCHAR Reserved1 : 5;
UCHAR LogicalUnitNumber : 3;
UCHAR PageCode;
UCHAR IReserved;
UCHAR AllocationLength;
UCHAR Control;
} inquiryCDB;

//Check pointers - shouldnt be here
USHORT Length;
UCHAR ScsiStatus;
UCHAR TargetId;
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A:SCSI programming (pointer help..)

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windows98 is already on my 13gb ide drive, but i have a new 9gb scsi drive which is really fast 80mb/sec,
I would like to install only windows for now so machine boots faster, can i do this and still have other files on existing slower 13gb hdd i.e. games, txt files and pics?
I have managed to make ide drive as slave but i dont know how to go abouts installing win98 on scsi, as machine keeps booting to windows, from the slave drive. And when i attempt to install win98 it tries to put it on the ide drive which alwready has it on.
Do i need to disconnect the power supply to the ide hdd?
Does scsi drives have master/slave jumper setting like the ide?

My new hdd is MAG3091LC on this page

A:if i have 1 ide and 1 scsi hard drive how do i install windows on the new scsi hd?

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Okay I have a question

I have some SCSI drives. My current system now only has SATA. so is there anyway I can hook them into this? Or is there anyway I can pull some DATA off of the drives? Thanks


Sure, you need to buy a scsi control card with the correct pin config. Note these are not cheap; newegg has some for around $170 and up so you need to decide how much you want the info on the drives.

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What is the difference between these three connections? I was looking at SCSI hard drives, and they seem to run faster than the IDE and the SATA hard drives. Well I don't want to put it in those words, but the least amount of RPM for the SCSI hard drives is 10000RPM. Is SCSI better than SATA?

A:Ide, Sata, Scsi?

There are some advantages to SATA such as smaller cables for better air flow, hot swapability in some systems, no confusing jumpers. At this time the speed difference between SATA and a new good IDE drive isn't that great. In the future SATA drives are supposed to have transfer rates of 600MBps.

While SCSI drives have at least a theoretical speed advantage as well as other pluses compared to IDE or SATA drives, most of these don't matter to the average user. Your basic motherboard doesn't come with a SCSI connector so that means an add in card.

The mechanical "innards" of all these drives are basically the same.

If your motherboard comes with a SATA connector a SATA drive is about the same price as an IDE drive and probably worth getting. No real reason to get a SCSI drive.

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i was looking on ebay to get an idea for prices of a new internal hdd and noticed that there are different kinds. im guessing that these are types of connections. im not sure what ones im using but i think they are IDE(the flat, grey cables?). i was just wondering if someone can point me in the right direction.

my motherboard is a gigabyte RZ series 8S661FXMP-RZ.

are any of these types faster than others? or any benefits or anything?

any help is much appreciated.


A:what type og HDD do i need? IDE, SATA, SCSI?

Your mobo supports ATA-133 and Serial ATA-150.

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I just purchased a new ASUS P5AD2-E Premium motherboard and I'm about to connect my hardrives.

I have a new Maxtor Diamondmax 10 160GB SATA 7200 RPM drive and a Quantum U160 SCSI 10k RPM drive.

Which should I go with? I'm assuming the SCSI will be faster, but will it be much faster? Since, using SCSI will take some work off the CPU...is it worth it? will I notice much performance difference?

A:Question about SATA vs SCSI

I would use the sata drive for apps and storage and the scsi for os.
If I didn't have to add a sata adaptor to get sata running, that is.
The scsi will have far less latency than the sata drive, so it should give a snappy response to user input when used as the os drive.

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Hello all,

My 1st post. I built my own PC about 10 years ago and have a hit a couple of problems as I've come to replace a couple of things as the tech has obviously moved on.

My PC Mobo is one that has an onboard SCSI controller and when my SCSI system drive started to play up I realised that hard drives had now largely become SATA type. Anyway, I found a SATA RAID controller card which fitted to a standard PCI slot. This is fine and the SATA drive is now my system drive but adding the SATA controller caused a clash with the onboard SCSI controller in that the boot process can't accomodate both controllers as I think the BIOS runs out of ROM. Anyway, instead of the SCSI BIOS showing up at Bootup it now shows the SATA Bios and boots into the OS. Therefore I can't now use the SCSI DVD/CD Rom to boot from, still usuable in Windows but I now want to reinstall my OS.
I have also recently bought a Blue Ray combo drive which is SATA, thinking I could connect it to my SATA RAID controller not realising that this was only for SATA hard drives . I bought the Blue Ray drive for a future HTPC build but thought I could use it in my old system temporarily to do the OS reinstall.

I have seen whilst searching the internet some converters to enable people to use an IDE drive on a SCSI controller but not the other way around and wondered which of a couple of options would be best / possible?

option 1. Can the SCSI DVD/CD Rom be attached to a converter to connect this to a... Read more

A:Converting SCSI or SATA CD ROM to IDE

Hello and welcome to the forums!

I would recommend disabling the onboard SCSI, and purchasing a SATA controller card if you have another slot available. That way, you can connect the Blu-Ray drive to it.

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I recently purchased a new Dell 8400 with a 40 GB SATA drive. I want to put my old hard drive (Quantum Fireball) SCSI drive into my new machine so I can use it as a storage device and, most importantly, access its files. I've noted that the new SATA drive has the small data serial cable (4 pin?) that is attached to the motherboard (bay 0). My older SCSI Quantum Fireball has the long (15 pin?) data connection. In order to add the SCSI Fireball as the slave, is there an adapter I can purchase to connect to the 15 pin SCSI Fireball to the 4 pin bay (bay 1) motherboard of my new Dell 8400?

Is any of this possible? I'm sort of a novice and may not have phrased my question correctly.

Sure could use some advice!


A:SATA HD and SCSI HD compatability

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I'm planning on buying an ASUS P6t Deluxe Mobo http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4268650&CatId=4068

and bunch of other good stuff like 1600 mhz ddr3 triple channel ram. Is it okay to purchase 1600mhz whih is the fastest the mobo can support and then overclock it? will it not work because the mobo limit is 1600mhz?

also whats the difference between scsi and sata hdd? I'm thinking about getting a 15k rpm scsi hdd because i dont want my hdd to limit my performance, because i have a spare sata hdd (7200 RPM) hanging around that I can use instead. but since im building a gaming pc wont the sata stump performance? I dont want to invest ina raptor hdd, because SCSI is more cost efficient and much faster with 15k rpm. is this abad idea? should i stick with sata? scsi would my my primary hdd, but i dont mind only using the hdd for games (if thats possible, i can power up both hdd's one with my OS and the other for games?)

does the ASUS mobo above have NCQ? how do i find out?

PLease help before Black friday!!!

A:SCSI vs SATA and Ram questions.

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Hey guys, big problem. Well, for me it is. I've got a 200GB SATA drive. Connected to a SATA card in a PCI slot. BIOS reads the card, and detects the drive. Great! Load Windows - nothing. Device manager shows the host card under "SCSI and RAID controllers" as working properly, and it even shows the drive too under "Disk Drive" (as a SCSI device). But in "MY COMPUTER" there's no drive! I'm running Windows XP Pro and have all the updates, have updated my BIOS and Firmware on everything, all the latest drivers, yada yada yada. Any ideas?

A:Sata/scsi Problem!

Have you partitioned and formatted the drive?

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In my system Maxtor SATA 200GB with Windows XP SP1 is installed on MSI KT4ultra motherboard.

In the device manager, under Disk properties I have found two options.....(attaching image) please tell me what these mean and by checking will improve my performance or anything.

A:SATA SCSI Properties

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Along with my new computer system i'm going to get, I was looking into storage.
I figure I'll get a 120gbSATA 7.2krpm drive for main storage... but also..

a ~18.6gb 15krpm ultra160 scsi drive to have JUST Windows XP (and maybe some other essentials for quick startup) on it. 3.5ms (theoretical) seek seems pretty nice for just an operating system.

Is this really as good as it sounds? Thoughts? I'm sure this has come up in the past.


A:scsi advantages over sata

You may want to go to www.storagereview.com to compare the speeds of the two drives. Those 15000rpm SCSI drives are super-fast, for sure.

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One of my systems has twin Maxtor 6Y160M0 SATA disks installed. A physical check of the disks confirms that they are both connected via the SATA connectors.

If I check system info (XP Pro SP2) the disks are listed as: "Maxtor 6Y160M0 SCSI Disk Device".

I am a little confused by this terminology. My understanding was that SATA and SCSI were different technologies, so how is it that XP classifies a SATA disk as a SCSI device..

A:SATA / SCSI Terminology Confusion

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The particular HDD is a Samsung HD103SI. This is a SATA drive. It is connected with a SATA cable. My PC doesn't have any SCSI ports.

But Device Manager - Disk Drives lists it as SAMSUNG HD103SI SCSI Disk Device.

It works just fine. Except for one thing, which I don't need at the moment. I cannot make it an un-pluggable AHCI drive because somewhere along the line Windows believes that it is SCSI.

Edit: I have 2 of these drives. If I plug the spare one in (a different SATA port) Windows lists it as SATA.

A:Why does Device Manager say my SATA HDD is SCSI

Some drivers for some hard drive controllers will list SATA drives as SCSI.

All works normally except that the system shows them as SCSI and it may indicate that they are removable.

All my Marvell controllers (with Marvell drivers) list them as SCSI but I can turn off the removable function in the drive properties.

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Several system information utilities I've run show the SATA devices as SCSI? Any reason?

Here are two screen shots. One is from Speccy and the other is from AS SSD Benchmark.

A:My SATA devices show up as SCSI??

I wouldn't worry about it Fireberd.

Your devices might incorporate some SCSI technology but that's all.

All of your drives, including optical are either SSD or SATA.

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Well I got into a little crunch and wasn't paying much attention and I accidentally bought a "Fujitsu 147GB 10K SCSI HARDDRIVE MAT3147NC U320 80 PIN" thinking for some reason that it was an SATA drive *hits self on head*.

Anyways I'm looking for a very simple and low cost solution to be able to run the SCSI drive in my computer. I've seen all types of converters for 80 pin and such, but I don't really know which one is applicable with the hard drive I got. Are there any SCSI to SATA converters out there? or is there anyway possible to run a SCSI drive from my home computer, without spending too much money? or should I just sell it and just stick with SATA?



A:Solved: SCSI to SATA converter???

Sell it and get a SATA drive would be my move. If you cant return it Ebay it.

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Is SCSI or SATA a better (more stable) for hard drives going to be on a dedicated PC Audio System?

I have been building a dedicated PC Audio System for the last few months. Unfortunately i've stumbled on a few system spec requirements in order to allow my ProTools (Audio Software & Hardware Rack Input/Output.

1) First, I should have done better homework. But, all the parts are brand spankin' new.

2) Can someone please advise me if SATA or SCSI formats would be most stable? Would be fastest?

3) Is there anyway to 'cripple' 4 of my 8 gig of memory temporarily? Without going too deep into my compatibility with my ProTools System; I am forced to use standard wXP (non 64 bit).

4) My ProTools is not compatible with a Dual Core 2 CPU that I bought. Does anyone know what would happen if I ran with this CPU? I understand most of you will not know this. I am simply hoping someone in this thread may have performed some of their older software. I would like to make use of my new CPU, however, stability is first and foremost.

If you can only answer one question above, that's very helpful. However, if someone knows all the answers to the above, it would be most excellent.

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Ok, since I've been a SATA/IDE guy my whole life, I never really had experience with SCSI and SAS drives. Don't worry, I did do some googling before coming here, but I never got a 'definite' answer. Some say SCSI is better for database applications, while SATA is better for file transfers and streaming.

Here's my question:

Say you have a 10kr pm SCSI drive, a 10k rpm SATA/6Gbits/s drive, and a SAS 10k rpm SAS drive. What would be best? If there's no single answer to this, what would be best for what type of application? (file server, print server, database, etc, etc)

Now that we have that question out of the way, what if we up the SCSI/SAS speeds to 15k rpm? Is there a significant advantage of SATA?

I hope this all makes sense!

A:Solved: SATA vs SCSI vs SAS: Is there a simple answer?

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I have a Startech brand PCI add-in card to get some extra SATA ports on my old Biostar MCP 6PB M2+ board.

In Disk Manager an Hitachi drive attached to the card shows up as a SCSI device.

However my backup software doesn't see it (old copy of Norton Ghost on CD) and the POST operations do not show it in the BIOS. Win7 reports that no driver updates are needed for the Hitachi on the Startech card.

It's very confusing. A new motherboard is due for me but this problem solved would extend the use of the Biostar. Why would the Win7 see the device but nothing else?

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I've been reading about issues with people having problems with their SSD's not being reconized by Windows 7 Ultimate...but my WD 600gig STAT III Raptor is listed as a SCSI as well. I assume the problem is with my Marvell Driver.

I bought this 60gig OCZ Vertex 3 SATA III drive for a Boot drive and had a pain installing drivers for it on a clean install of windows. I plugged it, and my WD Raptor both into the 2 SATA III ports that I have on my ASUS Rampage III MB. I set the Drives to ACHI not IDE. Tried to install Windows, had to force windows to accept the Marvell Drivers...but finally got it installed.

Now Im stuck with the OCZ SSD and the Raptor both at SCSI speeds...not able to get them reconized my Windows 7 Ult as SATA drives.

Should I try uninstalling the Marvell and JBMicron drivers and let Windows try and install drivers that will work? Funny thing is, I know that windows is reconizing the SSD as a SSD because of the Disk Defrag has been disabled on it...and was able to get some info off the drive via Intels SSD toolbox....OCZ's tool box wont reconize it unless you use Windows drivers. I had to install the Marvell Drivers to install Windows, Windows wouldn't reconize either drive plugged into the SATA III ports.

Anyway, if anyone could help out I would greatly appreciate it. I've tried bout everything, even tried the reg. fix via the Windows Helper with no luck.

Thanks in advance.

A:SSD + WD Raptor SATA Drives Showing up as SCSI Win 7 Ultimate

You may also want to ask here.

Vertex3, Agility3, Solid3 and Synapse caching drive support and discussion forum

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Could you tell me the speeds also?

A:Which interface provides fastest data transfer, SATA or SCSI?

SCSI is a bit ahead, Ultra-320 at 320 MB/s vs SATA 3.0 at 300 MB/s
SATA 6.0 will be 600 MB/s. and Ultra-640 SCSI 640MB/s.

Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) and SAS2 are 375MB/s and 750 MB/s

Keep in mind this is the Interface speed; the actual transfer rate to the platter is much slower (around 100-125 MB/s last time I checked), and is fairly similar between the different interfaces.

Check out Computer Buses (Storage) at this link:
List of device Bandwidths

Another useful table is here:
Serial ATA



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I'm just wondering... I'm setting up a server and planning on having either a RAID0 or a RAID5 array of SCSI disks.

I could potentially use a SCSI RAID1+0 setup for my backup needs, but I've been thinking along different lines. My system drive/array will be around 300 to 450GB in SCSI, and I'm planning on having a large capacity sata disk or two in RAID1 for data...

... while I know I probably can't use the same controllers, is there any cheap and easy way by which I could have the system drive (scsi striped array) mirrored to a dedicated sata drive for backup purposes, such that if I lose the whole striped array at some point, I'll still have a backup of the lost data with which to build a new array to replace it with?

A:Mirror SCSI RAID array to SATA disk?

The good thing about Raid 5 is if one disk starts to die it gives you warning and time to pull it out and rebuild it without missing a lick. If the controller goes you can replace it and your drives will still be fine.

Now if you want to back up your entire network to a SATA array then i would advise investigating Data Protection Manager 2010 (DPM 2010). Full backup to a disk array every day and incremementals every 15 minutes, then a tape backup to take to the bank on the weekend.

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Ok, so my maxtor drive was working fine all untill i took out the pci ata card out and the drive to install on my new pc.
Now whenever i try to install it there or on this pc it tells me it has found new hardware like this: promise sata console scsi processor device
I can't find any place where i can dl this driver on any cds including the maxtor one. So how can i get this thing working?
Dont mind sig specs, those are not correct!

A:promise sata console scsi processor device

Bump, someone please help me..

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Good evening,

Just installed Windows 7 RTM and my Sata HDD's and DVDRW are reporting as SCSI devices. I would get this problem in XP if I installed the mobo's raid drivers by accident. If I did then the devices would report as SCSI and the dvd burner would report as a cdrom and would not burn or read dvds

Whereas in Windows 7 the burner is reporting as a DVDRW scsi CDrom and will play dvd's and burn them too.

So at the moment there doesn't seem to be any problem however whilst navigating through the control panel I noticed the WEI. So I took a look and it's report my primary hard drive with a score of 5.9. The hard drive is a brand new Western Digital Caviar Black 500gb 32mb cache disk, is this score normal for such a drive?

Also is there anything else to worry about with the devices reporting as SCSI or is okay to leave it like that


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Intel Quad Q8400 @ 2.66GHz
Asus ATI 4670 1gb
4gb corseair
Western Digital caivar black 500gb
Western Digitial caviar green 1tb

Windows XP device manager:
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A:Sata Devices reporting as SCSI, performance issues?

The only way to get a better score on your HDD would be to have either :

1) A 10,000 RPM drive, or for maximum scores,
2) A fast SSD (I have an Intel X-25M and get 7.7 as a score)

See attachment.

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Hi all,

I have a Dell Dimension 8300 with a WD 200G SATA drive and I'm trying to format and install a fresh copy of Windows XP Pro SP2. I have made an image of the partition C: with Norton Ghost 8.0 before I went on with the formatting.

Problem: After the installation of Win XP, it is extremely slow. As I scroll through the screen (especially when using IE), I could see the screen try to refresh from the bottom to top).

I've installed the Intel Chipset Utility and the Display driver (nVidia 66.93) but it's no help. Before as I was installing Windows, I performed the F6 procedure and installed the Promise SATA Controller from Dell for my Dimension 8300.
http://support.dell.com/support/dow...D=DIM_PNT_P4_8300&os=WW1&osl=en&deviceid=4096 but it still not working.

After that, I followed the instruction from the Dell's website and tried to manually update the SATA Controller in Windows by going to Device Manager --> SCSI and RAID controller, except there was NO SCSI and RAID controller listed in there!

So I decided to load the original C: partition from the Ghost image to see what's there for the SCSI and RAID controller, it's merely using the A347SCSI SCSI Controller from Microsoft and it does not have the slowdown problem at all.

There must be something that I've missed when installing Windows. Why wouldn't it see the SCSI and RAID controller in Device Manager? I've tried to reinstalled Windows a few... Read more

A:Win XP extremely slow on SATA, SCSI / RAID controller disappeared

Have you asked dell abt this?

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I have done image from physical computer (with the help of Ghost).
Then I applied this image to virtual HDD (my OS is - Windows 7 Enterprise)
Then I fix boot with the help of -start up recovery- option of installation disk of Windows 7 professional.
Windows start booting but then crashes with error "0x0000007b"
So I want to load drivers of virtual SCSI controller with help of Windows recovery console or ERD commander or other utilities.
Please help me to find right VMware 7 drivers for Windows 7 Enterprise and load it to offline Windows 7 Enterprise

I do not want to make Windows reinstallation (repair) with help of installation disk (it will destroy some bugs that I want to keep unattached).

I do not want to use automatic physical to virtual conversion tools (don't ask why)
I just want to preload necassary drivers with the help of recovery console or ERD commander or other utilities.

P.S. May be I should install Windows 7 Enterprise on new Virtual machine and then export drivers with this tools http://sourceforge.net/projects/drvback/

http://www.boozet.org/dd.htm? But what exactly to export and how to load it to offline system?

Thank you for your answers and help!!

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I managed to get hold of part 01HY319 for my trusty T460 and all works fine. It looks like this and converts from an NVME M.2 drive (M-key) to SATA Express connection on the motherboard.  SATA Express is only x2 PCI lines (rather than the 4 you get with "full" NVME support) so I was interested in performance. Performance before with a 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD SATA drive was like this  Performance afterwards with the 01HY319 part and a 1TB Samsung 960 Evo NVME drive was like this  Hope this helps anyone considering the upgrade.

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Having issues with RAID0 array being detected by Windows7 Ultimate x64 as SCSI. Apparently these drivers are the 'default' drivers that install when the RAID array is initialized. There is no option at this point to install other drivers instead.

Using DeviceManager, there is an option to 'update drivers', and regardless of the method chosen, even selecting the file for a previously-downloaded set of drivers, Windows7 always comes back with a message of "Windows has determined that the best drivers for your system are already installed". Considering that SCSI drivers are the OLDEST ones out there, and actual SCSI devices are becoming rarer and rarer, how is it that these drivers cannot be replaced with more current and more applicable drivers?

Does anyone know of a usable workaround to install non-SCSI drivers to replace the default ones?

Thanks in advance!

A:Replacing SCSI storage drivers with IDE or SATA drivers

If this is for the motherboard listed in your specs, you need to install the AMD RAID driver,

AMD Chipset Drivers

May also want to install the chipset driver while you're at it if you haven't.

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i have a dellxps 600 i just installed a new hard drive..im trying to install the operating system..but when i select "onboard or usb cd-rom drive" and press enter it gives me "selected boot device not available- strike f1 to retry boot f2 for setup utility" when i press f1 it gives me the same thing...please help!

A:programming new hard drive

You have the Windows XP disk in the CD drive? Is it a restore disk? Full retail? OEM?

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I want to transfer data from my hard drive in my laptop (Lenovo Y480) to a hard drive in my desktop. the cables for the sata adapter do not fit the hard drive from the laptop. Is there a different form for a 2.5 hard drive and a 3.5 hard drive?

A:sata to usb adapter cable dosen't fit sata hard drive in laptop?

Does the drive have an adapter need to remove to expose the SATA conenctors? I don;t see anything about the Y480 not having a standard SATA drive and laptop and desktop SATA connectors are the same.

Maybe post pictures of both the drive and your SATA cables.

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I have to replace my original hdd on my 9 year old Dell XPS 8100. The desktop  has an i7 chip so I'd hate to replace it with a new i7 PC because they are expensive.The bad drive is an esata drive. I notice that current crop of hdd's seem to be sata III drives. Will the old Dell PC mother board  on the desktop support the new sata III drivesIf I replace the bad hard drive would I be able to restore the W7 OS and all my data by using a macriumbackup file on the desktops external  backup drive?
Thanks for your help!

A:Can old oem sata hard drive be replaced with a new current generation sata III hdd on an 8 year old xps 8100 with an i7 chip??

Any 3.5" SATA drive will work.
As long as the system is in working order, and you purchase a SATA data cable for the additional drive, you should have no trouble cloning the existing drive to a new one.

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Hi, hopefully should be straight forward enough...

I have just bought one of these space saving Acer Revos which does not come with an Optical drive.

I have a Blu-ray reader (dvd writer) which is SATA, but the Revo only has USB or eSATA.
So... i was wondering what is needed to get this (SATA) drive to work via eSATA or usb?

Is it as simple as a SATA to eSATA cable or will this not give the necessary power to the drive?

Or do i need an eSATA enclosure, and if so what size for an optical drive 5.2?

Cheers for any help.

A:New PC with no optical drive or SATA connection (can i use a SATA drive in it?)

Ya no problem use it. For more details contact us at www.sacatech.com

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Hi, i'm new to this site but very familiar with technology, i built this machine myself.
im currently running off my old HD but i want to reinstall windows onto my new SATA hardrive (160GB) this one is an IDE. The BIOS and Nvidia Raid config recognize the drive but the windows installation does not. I was reading this thread on this site that i foudn from google


because he has the same MB as myself but different hard drives. I am currently in the process of trying what he did but i do not have a floppy drive. I only have a 1 CD drive and a 16GB floppy drive. i'm going to try these routes first for the configuartion software but if not im going to see if i can find one laying around.

IF i cant find one and the CD/flash drive don't work is there another way to try the methods described in the previous web link?

*Hard Drives are Western Digital Caviar

A:Installation Problems of Windows XP onto SATA HD. SATA Drive not recognized.

Most newerBIOS allow an Alternate method for SATA . . Go into the bios and check the "Sata Operation" setting, change it to "Raid Autodetect/ATA if it is not already. Now try to install XP ( Verbage will vary by manufacturer )

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Hi guys,
My old A215-S4747 has a Toshiba SATA drive (200 GB, model name: MK2035GSS) in it. However when i look at device manager, the drive appears to be configured over IDE bus, rather than SATA bus. I know, old motherboards were providing such option in order to eliminate compatibility issues with older OSes like XP, however this machine has Vista (SP2) by factory default.

I wanted to upgrade the drive (it's really aged) with a new faster SATA drive, but i couldn't find any option to configure it as SATA (not IDE) under BIOS!

I'm attaching screenshots here, and really disappointed about it. If i bus brand-new SATA drive, will it be forced to run over IDE channel (UDMA 5 max) which is really slower than SATA.

It seems Toshiba left no such option in BIOS and configured drives automatically as IDE eventhough they're actually SATA-provided.

Screenshots here:






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I'm wanting to upgrade to a better mainboard. I don't know much about SATA, but I've been using a SATA I hard drive very successfully through a pci controller card.

My question: If I get a new motherboard with SATA II headers, will it readily accept my SATA I hard drive? I can see how the reverse might not work, that is, not being able to connect a SATA II hard drive in a SATA I header, but maybe I'm wrong on that...?

A:Will SATA II mobo headers accept SATA I drive?

Yes, sata 3gb/s ports(commonly called sata II), are designed to be backward compatible. I'm using a sata I hd on my sata 3gb/s port on my chaintech vnf4/ultra, so yeah, it works.

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