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X1 Extreme Mouse (Trackpoint & Touchpad) Freezing on DAY 1

Q: X1 Extreme Mouse (Trackpoint & Touchpad) Freezing on DAY 1

Hello everyone, first post on here! Got a X1 Extreme, Maxed out the options, soon as I got it I ran windows update and the lenovo updates. The problem I am having is the mouse will freeze randomly, at first it was doing it after 10-15 minutes, now it takes a while for it tohappen. I only use Trackpoint, but at first it disabled the trackpoint and touchpad, but a physical Bluetooth mouse would still work and touch screen and keyboard would work. Now it seems last time The Bluetooth mouse also didn't work, but keyboard and Touch Screen did. Very ODD Behavior, I uninstalled and reinstalled the Drivers, I also turned off REALTEK Audio which I heard is a issue and reinstalled it. I also Installed all the touchpad, ultranav etc apps from support.lenovo website just to mess with the settings. Once I noticed when the trackpoint stopped working, it was actually disabled on the system somehow. Anyways I would love to fix this issue on my own because I bet Tech Support wont know about this issue and throw me in circles. I feel as though this wouldnt be happening on a Stock Brand new Laptop, so it must be one of the Windows Updates messing with it. Far as Specs it is a i7-8850h, 64mb Ram, 1 TB ssd, 4k Screen, Lets see if someone can help me =)

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Preferred Solution: X1 Extreme Mouse (Trackpoint & Touchpad) Freezing on DAY 1

I recommend downloading and running DAP. It can help sort out any driver and firmware related issues on your system

It's worked out well for many of us in the past.

You can download it direct from this link http://downloaddap.org. (This link will open the download page of DAP so you can save a copy to your computer.)

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Hi, My Trackpointer completely stops working afer the computer is turned on for about 20 minutes. The first 20-30 minutes it functions fine then it suddenly freezs and I have to reboot to get it working again. My Trackpad and any connected mouse works fine without any issues, it's only the pointer that freezes. All my drivers, Bios and Windows (10 Pro 64) are up to date. I have also tried uninstalling the device and reinstalling...nothing...still the same issue. Does anybody have the same problem and is there a solution? My Config is 4k Touch, 64GB RAM, 1Tb+ 512 SSD, Intel vpro  8750 Processor. Thanks. 

A:Thinkpad X1 Extreme (Gen1) Trackpoint Freezing issues

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GreetingsFirst time posting seeing if anyone else is having issues with the X1 Carbon trackpoint/touchpad freezing up on Windows 8.For me it is freezing up every 20min while I am using it, and also when I unplug the AC power.The mouse will freeze up but the keyboard works fine. Usually I am forced to reboot.A USB mouse will work fine during this freeze. I have tried installing all windows updates, Lenovo updates and even system recovery to a date when I didn't have issues but nothing seems to work. Anyone else have this issue?Its been very frustrating owning this x1, as I am on my second one after the first one died on me.      

A:X1 Carbon trackpoint/touchpad freezing

Hi, changuri
 
I would recommend trying to install the Synaptics base driver and see if that helps your issues. Synaptics is the company that produces the UltraNav driver for Lenovo, so there should not be any loss of functionality, but it tends to fix issues like this in my experience. This driver can be found here. Try downloading and installing that and see if it helps.
 
Best of luck,
Adam





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Up until the most recent windows 10 home Automatic update (version 1709), I've been able to use the mouse properites settings to turn off the touchpad to avoid accidental clicks and mouse movement, and instead use the trackpoint only.  I can select to still use "gestures" to scroll, zoom, etc, and use the touchpad to right and left click. Since the update, the left and right click buttons are unresponsive, unless I use the mouse properties to fully enable the touchpad. This seems like a software glitch.  When I downloaded and tried to reinstall the drivers from lenovo, the installation package tells me it can't find a synaptics device.  Anyone else run into this?Thanks. 

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Hi all. I've seen this issue posted about many times before and can't get a hold of lenovo. When I try to use the "contact us - email" page the link doesn't work!  I have a x250 I purchased in 2015. It has been working great until recently. I usually use the trackpoint and have the touchpad disabled. Recently it just stops working and the only way I can get the mouse to function again is by using an external standard mouse. When I go to mouse settings it doesn't even recognize that I have a touchpad/trackpoint, even after installing updated ULTRANAV drivers. This also extends to the keyboard, some days the keyboard will not work at all. The only thing I can do is restart 100 times and cross my fingers it works one time. I've tried moving the mouse at the login screen, pressing firmly on the touchpad, etc. Nothing works aside from the off chance it cooperates after restarting.So, I have updated drivers numerous times for windows 10 and yet my trackpoint/touchpad still seem to rarely work. I am out of a warranty on this so I'm not sure what to do. My boyfriend is suggesting a factory reset, does anyone think that will work or have any other ideas? Thanks.

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I have a new X280. According to my Windows settings Touchpad and trackpoint should be left enabled when a mouse is connected, still when I connect a mouse they et diabled immediately. What I realized as an extra symptom is that after a clear boot both mouse and touchpad and trackpoint are active on the login screen. About 2-4 secs after login touchpad and trackpoint get disabled again. Anybody else have had this problem earlier? I have Win 10 Version 1830 (Build 17134..471) with latest touchpad and trackpoint drivers and firmwares. Thanks. Best regards,Zoltan

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I am trying to find a way that the touch pad and trackpoint will disable when I connect an external mouse.  Other computers I've used have a setting for this, but I can not find one the Carbon X1. I don't want to disable them permanently (or at least not both of them) for those few times I'm not using an external mouse. My preference would be to disable one permanently, and the other only when an external mouse is present. Thanks 

A:Disable touchpad and trackpoint with external mouse on Carbon X1

Hi, mkmchughIf there is such an option available, it would be with the mouse settings. Do you see anything related to disabling them with a USB mouse connected when you go to Mouse under Control panel and go to I believe is the Thinkpad tab?

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Hello, anyone solved this problem or advice please ? The Touchpad and Trackpoint stop working when an external mouse is connected.  Tried several different USB / Bluetooth mice.Also tried in a different T480 Laptop, same issue follows. The option "Leave touchpad on when a mouse is connected" is ticked on in the Touchpad settings. Thanks.

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I just got thinkkpad T570 (512 ssd, core i7, windows 10 pro, 16 ram, UHD).Usually the movement of touchpad is perfect, when I just move the point with doing nothing.  However, when I open pictures, setting and access to websites ( even this website), touchpad, trackpoint adn mouse are getting slower, does not move seconds, and losing the cursor, and moves sort time, this happens constantly, then eventuall, the cursor keeps freezing. I tried to move touchpad, track point and mouse, moreover, typing keyboard, nothing happens. but when I turn it off, into sleepying mode, and turn on. Then it works.Is there any solution to this issue?

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Dear All,  My Thinkpad P52 are working fine. But after i'm updated the TrackPoint Firmware Update Utility version 07 Nov 2018 from lenovo office site, my  Touchpad and Trackpoint stoped working.  I'm retry install but same error  After restart Windows, i seen this error "PS/2 Mouse Not Detected"  I looking on this forum, and seen many people was installed this firmware got same error ! X1 Carbon 6th Gen: Synaptics Touchpad Firmware Update broke Touchpad and Trackpoint : forums.lenovo....  This issue solved when Lenovo release new version to fix this error on X1 Carbon, but on Lenovo Thinkpad P52 still have error and we waiting for solutions to fix this. My Thinkpad P52 : Win 10 x64 , I7, P3000, 32GB ,1TB PCIeBIOS Version:  N2CET35W (1.18)BIOS Date:       2018-12-14Machine Type Model: 20M9CT01WW This's my log of TrackPoint-Flash Utility v1.0.0.38 (on lenovo website show this v1.0.0.4) ****************************************TrackPoint-Flash Utility v1.0.0.382018-12-22 10:41:52[10:41:52.303] IAP_MODE: TVSU_FLASH_FW[10:41:52.303] Command Line: "C:\DRIVERS\WIN\Elantech_TrackPointFW\FWUpdate.exe"[10:41:53.898] default interface: PS2[10:41:53.898] OS: 64-bit[10:41:53.929] [WARNING]: 1.6151-1.6399(0.0248) :Write 0x00 => TimeOut[10:41:53.960] IsElanTP: 1[10:41:53.960] Load image file: C:\DRIVERS\WIN\Elantech_TrackPointFW\PSG8E8_RANKA_fv11... Read more

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Alright, I'll start off by warning you that this is a real head-scratcher. I've been working on this for a couple of months on and off, and I cannot seem to even determine the cause of the problem, much less a solution. Also, apologies if my post jumps around a lot, there's a lot of stuff and I don't know how to properly organize it.

Running a Dell Vostro 1500, here's the SysInfo:

OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, Service Pack 3, 32 bit
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5270 @ 1.40GHz, x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13
Processor Count: 2
RAM: 3069 Mb
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS, 256 Mb
Hard Drives: C: Total - 73673 MB, Free - 10267 MB;
Motherboard: Dell Inc., 0WY040
Antivirus: Norton 360 Premier Edition, Updated: Yes, On-Demand Scanner: EnabledClick to expand...

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Right, so the problem is this: In select games, moving the mouse causes an extreme FPS drop. Like, the game will visibly freeze until you stop moving the mouse. It doesn't seem to be a problem with RAM or the Video card, because as long as you're not moving the mouse, the game(s) run(s) perfectly fine with full FPS.

Two games I've noted the problem in are, Minecraft and Insaniquarium Deluxe (Wut? An ancient 2D game causes this? Obviously can't be a problem with RAM, then, right?) I understand Minecraft can be a resource hog at times, but I can run in any direction with no FPS lag at all without moving the mouse. The ... Read more

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Hello,I have an issue whith my new X1 Carbon (G7), that my touchpad does not react immediately when I click with the phisical touchpad buttons (ie. the buttons above the touchpad). It is noticable when trying to drag&drop an item, or when trying to use the scrollbar similarly (clicking and dragging). It works well when I use the lower area of the touchpad to "click". For example: I select a file in File Explorer with a click and immediately move my fingers on the touchpad to drag it somewhere else, but it only starts to move after a short moment. It feels like the touchpad does not want to react, but then it suddenly starts to work... I thought of driver update, but Synaptics driver is not available. Maybe it's an issue with the Microsoft drivers?Does anyone else have a similar issue? Thanks

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Lenovo Vantage recommeded me to install the following update https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/uu/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/THINKPAD-X-SERIES-LAPTOPS/THINKPAD-... The firmware update failed with the Error Code[0x69] Since then I can no longer use both the trackpoint and the touchpad!The official firmware update completly bricked my input devices. Does anybody know how to fix this issue?

A:X1 Carbon 6th Gen: Synaptics Touchpad Firmware Update broke Touchpad and Trackpoint

This seems to be an related issue: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-L-R-and-SL-series/Touchpad-not-working-after-firmware-update/t...

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I just received my ThinkPad X1 Extreme and noticed that the trackpoint buttons (above the touchpad) misfire, has anyone noticed the same behavior? Specifically, the button has a "click" feel to it, however half the time the button doesn't register the click. I have to push the button harder for the click to register. This happens for both left and right click. I find this very distracting as I use the same exact bluetooth keyboard on my desktop and I do not have this problem, if i feel a click, the buttons fire. Being I'm so used to this keyboard and I've used lenovo laptops before, this is a significant problem! -Paul

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I got my X1 Extreme sealed from my local distributors and I started it, applied all Windows updates and installed everything in Lenovo System UpdateBut the TrackPoint and its left/right mouse buttons don't work at all. I also don't have any options for customizing trackpoint or trackpad beyond windows' basic onesI noticed there are two versions of Symantec UltraNav - one for Windows 10 1803 and one for older versions.I installed the older version, and now I have the trackpoint/trackpad options, but trackpoint is grayed out, while trackpad can be edited. Reinstalling the 1803 (latest Win) drivers again causes the options for trackpoint/pad to disappearI checked bios and tried disabling and enabling all 4 combinations of trackpoint/trackpad, but it did not help.Any ideas what that might be? Since latest Synaptec UltraNav drivers don't display additional options in Mouse Options, I guess it's because they don't install properly (trying to manually click the two apps in C:\Drivers\UltraNav\XXX gives me an error -"Either you need a new certificate installed for this app package, or you need a new app package with trusted certificates."and it fails to install - though the official installer says it installed correctly).So it points to the latest X1 Extreme Symantec drivers being faulty

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I recently purchased an X1 Extreme Gen 2, and I noticed that the TrackPoint is very choppy compared to an X1 Carbon Gen 7 I also recently purchased. The touchpad is smooth and operational, but the mouse movement using the TrackPoint is imprecise and not smooth. I removed the red cap from both laptops, and noticed that the two laptops' physical pointing sticks are different. I also noticed that the X1 Extreme has the "Synaptics Pointing Device" driver, while the X1 Carbon has the "ELAN TrackPoint Device" driver (although it is probably supposed to be like that). Anyone else experienced this problem or have a solution?Thanks!

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The left click above the track pad doesn't seem to properly register my click unless I press hard or at a certain spot or angle.  Is this something that can be fixed without an RMA? Where is the closest repair centre in Toronto?

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I've done some more general testing on this and 2 things I've noticed in the past few days:
 
1) When I leave my X1E lid CLOSED and leave World Community Grid Running (as is normal for me it drives the GPU and CPU to high workloads), in the AM the machine is very warm on and around the TPoint as well as the bottom of the machine beneath where the TP is positioned.  I have the machine sitting on a solid surface so not to impede normal air flow under the unit.  The ambient temp is about 75 degrees F.   For at least the first 30+ minutes the trackpoint is AWFUL on recalibrating itself.  It will just slide and slide across the screen.  
 
2) I've also noticed that when I'm resting my hands "heavily" on the X1E "palm" areas near / around the Touchpad, I noticed the cursor drift a few times on its own...expecially when I'm going from no hands on keyboard to full hands on keyboard.   It seems to do this more when it's very warm, say after #1 has been running all night.  
 
Next I'm going to try to leaving the setup running with the screen OPEN so the keyboard and trackpoint stay cooler.  
 
My gut says we may be onto something that the thiness and thermals are inpacting the TP stress sensors which makes like a good theory in my mind.   It would be great if some others would start watching for similar behaviors.  I have a IR thermometer around here somewhere I'll try to find it.&n... Read more

A:X1 Extreme 20MF X1E1 - Trackpoint Drifting

Hi, Finally got back to measuring the keyboard/TP temps with my Fluke IR Thermometer after leaving the system ON and the lid closed.
 
Yes, I and many others continue having lots of trackpoint drift issues.  I have a 6 month old X1E (20MF Model) with all the latest FW/BIOS and Drivers installed from Lenovo's site.  It's so bad, I'm considering selling the machine and trying another one.  It's really marring what is otherwise a great machine, keyboard and Thinkpad brand. 
 
With the lid closed at night, the thermals are quite, quite high.  I still think this MAY be related to the drift.  I've also noticed that when I use the TP to scroll the bars by depressing the right mouse button and moving the cursor, the TP SEEMS to want to recalibrate more often and much more frequently.  I also have my TP set to 2 in the Windows 10 Mouse sensitivity settings b/c when I had it at 10 (most sensitive, which is how I've used every TP for the past many years, very light touch) it seems to recalibrate even MORE often. 
 
Key  Temp in degrees F
6       105.5
7       105.4
T       105.2
Y       106.3
F       101.3
G      107.9
TP    105.4   (Trackpoint nub)
H      105.6
J       102.6
B         99.5
N        98.4
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I was recently given a brand new Thinkpad X1 Extreme. The problem is that the cursor is moving diagonally from the bottom left to the upper right corners  (or parallel lines of this one) while I am typing. The movement is clearly activated when I press keys around the trackpoint (G, H, B) and especially H. The cursos most of the times will stop moving if I press again H.  I need to solve this: 1. I tried TouchFreeze but this deactivates only the touchpad when typing.  2. Is it possible to just deactivate the red trackpoint without deactivating the two physical buttons? I need these buttons. 3. Is there some other software solution? I would appreciate any help.

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 The trackpoint is disabled (greyed out and not ticked) in the ultranav tab mouse properties. Touchpad is enabled, however also not working. The trackpoint and the three buttons never worked since I got this Laptop. Meanwhile, I tried the following: - Disable/Enable in BIOS- Update BIOS to latest version- Re-install Ultranav drivers (several times)- Update all WIN10(64Bit) updates- Update all Lenovo updates from Lenovo website.- Install  uptodate driver I can find on the Synaptics website. None of them worked, nothing changed.Please help!

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This topic has been an ongoing problem with the Driver, etc., etc., etc. for 10 years + or -. I have four X120e Thinkpads with Windows 10 v1909 installed on each one. They appear to have almost exactly the same Synaptics software installed. They definitely show exactly the same devices in Device Manager and yet two of the Thinkpads have the UltraNav tab  on the Control Panel/Mouse control and two of them do not have the tab. I have been chasing old posts (such as 2011, 2015, etc. for more than two days now with no working solution. Can anyone please help me out?

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Right now when I use the trackpoint the touchpad is disabled while moving the cursor. The touchpad is also disabled when the trackpoint recalibrates itself. This causes problems because I often let go of the trackpoint to do gestures on the touchpad, and sometimes I then have to wait for the trackpoint to recalibrate until I can do anything. Recalibration can take several seconds so sometimes it's really frustrating.  Is my trackpoint working as it should or am I the only one experiencing recalibration for more than 2 seconds? Is there a known way to enable touchpad and trackpoint at the same time on Windows 10? That would solve my problem since I don't care about the drifting, I just want to be able to use the touchpad while it recalibrates.

A:Use TrackPoint and Touchpad at the same time

@erkimarious wrote:Right now when I use the trackpoint the touchpad is disabled while moving the cursor. The touchpad is also disabled when the trackpoint recalibrates itself. This causes problems because I often let go of the trackpoint to do gestures on the touchpad, and sometimes I then have to wait for the trackpoint to recalibrate until I can do anything. Recalibration can take several seconds so sometimes it's really frustrating.  Is my trackpoint working as it should or am I the only one experiencing recalibration for more than 2 seconds?To me this seems like a bug, but so far no Lenovo folks have chimed in, see this thread: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/Y1-Yoga-3rd-gen-issues-with-trackpoint-drift-... Definitely an irritating recurring issue, hope they fix it!

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Hello,My touchpad and TrackPoint stoped working after installing the 8/30/18 Synaptics driver from the t480 driver downloads.Before that, i had installed build 18204 from the Windows Insiders skip ahead and noticed that the TrackPoint did not work, but the touchpad did, so i decided to go install the newest drivers. Low and behold now both devices do not work. I took the issue to a large Tech Support discord found here: https://discord.gg/B8P97FhThe person helping me could not find a solution and pointed me to the Microsoft Community discord serverThe Microsoft Community server did do or say anything about my issue so i moved onto https://support.microsoft.com/After starting a thread on there I got help from someone, but all of the solutions given to me did not work, my ms answers thread is here: httpsbit.ly2LNnTf7 At this point, after installing or reseting windows at least 5 times, this is no longer a Microsoft problem, so i decided to come here.Everything after this point is happening on a stable public release of windows like version 1703 or 1803, not an Insider buildNote that the Touchpad has not worked on public version 1803 & 1703, and does not work on Insider builds 17723, 17713, & 18204 so far. Even with the propper drivers installed, any and all touchpad input is not registeredWindow as seen here, but even though it says the touchpad is on the touchpad does not workAfter seeing that Settings is lying to me, I decide to check device manage... Read more

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My touchpad and trackpoint disables after short usage. Max working time is about an hour, typically much less. Sometimes the keyboard has some delay but usually it works fine. The touchscreen works always. Occastinally the pointers come back for a while. So far I have tried:- Updated everything possible from Lenovo support page- Updated BIOS- Removed Synaptics driver 19.3.4.202. It reinstalled automatically.- Uninstalled every software I could- Disabled startup programs- Compared processes, memory and CPU from task manager when workin and during the issue- Reinstalled Windows- Checked that a bluetooth USB mouse works fine- There is no difference if running on battery or with a cord- Disabled either the touchpad or the trackpoint Seems to me like a driver issue. One anomaly in the drivers. The installed driver 19.3.4.202 date says 16.1.2018 but the support page gives the date 8.2.2018 for the same version.

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My touchpad and trackpoint disables after short usage. Max working time is about an hour, typically much less. Sometimes the keyboard has some delay but usually it works fine. The touchscreen works always. Occastinally the pointers come back for a while. So far I have tried:- Updated everything possible from Lenovo support page- Updated BIOS- Removed Synaptics driver 19.3.4.202. It reinstalled automatically.- Uninstalled every software I could- Disabled startup programs- Compared processes, memory and CPU from task manager when workin and during the issue- Reinstalled Windows- Checked that a bluetooth USB mouse works fine- There is no difference if running on battery or with a cord- Disabled either the touchpad or the trackpoint Seems to me like a driver issue. One anomaly in the drivers. The installed driver 19.3.4.202 date says 16.1.2018 but the support page gives the date 8.2.2018 for the same version.

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since i've gotten my x201 i've been pretty happy with it. the only problem i've had with it is scrolling. on some applications such as itunes and AIM the program doesn't scroll. i've read a few entries saying that i have to modify the tp4table.dat file and it does work.my question is why is this necessary when other laptops don't need to do this. is this because synaptics drivers do not support scrolling in those applications yet? also how often does lenovo release new drivers to update support for more programs

A:scrolling problem with touchpad/trackpoint

Hello keviinf,modify the tp4table.dat file is the one way, updating the ultra nav drivers could help also.Please reboot your system after editing the tp4table.dat file.Otherwise it won´t work.I did some tweaks on my both systems too. Like enabling horizontal scrolling in Firefox.
 
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T500-and-newer-T-series/Ultranav-does-not-scroll-horizontally-in-fi...
 
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Hi! I have an E460 laptop, on which I'm dual booting Windows 10 Pro and Manjaro Linux (basically Arch Linux) with Linux kernel 4.5.2. Having the same problem that people discuss in the E460 Keys repeating when pressed for 3 seconds thread, I have been bumping my bios to 1.13, 1.16, and yesterday, to bios 1.17, to see if the problem had been resolved. With the 1.17 bios update, my touchpad and trackpoint stopped working in Linux (In Windows they work fine). They do not even show up in /dev/input, and there is no mention of either of them in dmesg, journalctl, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or anywhere. The touchpad and stick worked fine in bios 1.13 and 1.16, so I'm thinking there is some regression in 1.17. Is anyone else experiencing this? Can Lenovo confirm whether there is a problem?  

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So, during the windows installer, no mouse. I couldn't see the pointer, neither the touchpad or trackpoint worked. I managed through using the keyboard, then once I got to the desktop I installed the "Synaptics ThinkPad UltraNav Driver for Windows 10 (64-bit) - ThinkPad" driver and rebooted. Still not working. I installed the thinkvantage system update, it detects no updates. I installed the service bridge. No updates. I then made a linux live USB that I use to install manjaro on all my laptops, yes everything worked out of the box on my previous x1 carbon. Touchpad doesn't work, xorg doesn't even recognize any touchpad present. Anyone else have this? Any solutions? This is actually my 2nd X1 carbon; the first works well but the mouse buttons are loose so Lenovo promised waived restocking and shipping with the purchase of a new order of equal or greater value; I ordered another one with plans to return the first one, because I really needed to keep it for work while I waited for the new one. The new one is actually flawless in terms of build, mouse buttons are solid, the CMOS battery is not loose and producing a rattling noise as it is in the first one, and the bottom cover doesn't have the clicking noise that so many are afflicted with. Really I'm willing to try anything to fix the touchpad.

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So, i'm fairly confident that my touchpad/trackpoint is 'bricked' on my X1 Carbon 3rd gen. I don't know what have triggered it but i haven't been able to make any progress in getting it to work in the last 5 hours. 1. There is no response on the trackpointer, the touchpad or its buttons2. Windows doesn't see any mouse-devices under Device Manager3. Uninstalling "Synaptic Pointing Device" results in a yellow generic PS/2 device, but still no mouse4. Bios is newest version N14ET51W (1.29) and i've done a Reset Default Settings5. Both trackpoint and touchpad is enabled in the BIOS6. Running hardware scans using Lenovo Solution Center doesn't yield any errors7. Using TouchPad-Flash Utility - TrackPointDetect yields 20 warnings and 2 errors.8. I've dissambled my laptop touchpad and keyboard connectors and making sure they are firmly connected.9. Is there something i have missed? Anyways. I've made peace with having to replace some parts - nothing lasts forever and i've had my laptop for 4 years now. The million dollar question is though; what to replace?Without knowing the inner workings of the X1 Carbon i can't get my head around how the touchpad an keyboard interacts. On other models its a single component and you replace both keyboard and touchpad together. Do i need to do that on X1 Carbon as well even though its two seperate components?

A:X1 Carbon 3rd gen: Touchpad/trackpoint 'bricked'?

I found a replacement part for the whole top cover, keyboard and touchpad. Is this the replacement you would all recommend?

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So, i'm fairly confident that my touchpad/trackpoint is 'bricked' on my X1 Carbon 3rd gen. I don't know what have triggered it but i haven't been able to make any progress in getting it to work in the last 5 hours. 1. There is no response on the trackpointer, the touchpad or its buttons2. Windows doesn't see any mouse-devices under Device Manager3. Uninstalling "Synaptic Pointing Device" results in a yellow generic PS/2 device, but still no mouse4. Bios is newest version N14ET51W (1.29) and i've done a Reset Default Settings5. Both trackpoint and touchpad is enabled in the BIOS6. Running hardware scans using Lenovo Solution Center doesn't yield any errors7. Using TouchPad-Flash Utility - TrackPointDetect yields 20 warnings and 2 errors.8. I've dissambled my laptop touchpad and keyboard connectors and making sure they are firmly connected.9. Is there something i have missed? Anyways. I've made peace with having to replace some parts - nothing lasts forever and i've had my laptop for 4 years now. The million dollar question is though; what to replace?Without knowing the inner workings of the X1 Carbon i can't get my head around how the touchpad an keyboard interacts. On other models its a single component and you replace both keyboard and touchpad together. Do i need to do that on X1 Carbon as well even though its two seperate components?

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Ma souris ne fonctionne plus (Touchpad et Trackpoint), j'ai tout essayé... réinstallation des pilotes, ... je suis obligé d'utiliser une souris externe sur mon Lenovo Thinkpad T440. Le système m'indique que les périphériques sont fonctionnels mais rien ne va... Je suis sous Windows 10.  Comme vous pouvez le voir je n'ai aucune option de pointage (le menu déroulant est vide...)

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Recently got a new Carbon x1, and everything was working fine, but once I closed the laptop and when I woke it up neither TrackPoint nor touchpad was working. Reboots didn't help. Tried installing Synaptics drivers - it said there was no device for update. Device manager detects the touchpad as Microsoft mouse with corresponding drivers (screenshot attached).  Also tried installing update for TrackPoint from the drivers list, it said it needed a reboot to install, after reboot there was an error window that suggested trying once again, several times I saw this message.Anyone have this? Are there any possible solutions?(Searched on the forum, but the solutions were not for my case or didn't work)P.S. It would be kinda stupid for a $1500 laptop not to work because of a touchpad

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Hi all Can anyone help me diagnose a problem I'm having with a friends T410. The trackpoint and touchpad buttons have stopped working (both left and right click). I am forced to use the laptop with an external mouse. The trackpad and touchpoint themselves both work just can't click anything, I have tried uninstalling drivers and re-installing but that hasn't helped, have also run Hirens boot cd - Mini XP mode and the buttons don't work there either. Sounds like a hardware issue to me but would like a second opinion before I start pulling it apart! Many thanks Chris

A:Touchpad and Trackpoint buttons not working

Hi whitehouse87,
  Welcome to Lenovo Community! And happy to have you again.
 
As I understand that you are facing issue with Touchpad & Trackpoint buttons are not working in T410.
You have tried almost everything & I don't think so its related to software or drivers. You can check without drivers once whether clicks are working or not. Else its a hardware issue for sure
 
I hope the above information helped you.
Please feel free to post in Lenovo Community Forums if you have any further queries!
 
Regards,Prabhansh_______________________________________________Tap that Kudos button if I helped.If you find a post helpful and it answers your question, please mark it as an "Accepted Solution"!

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Hey! I'm quite happy with my new P1 2nd Gen, except the pointing devices suck. Lenovo seems to have switched the TrackPoint to ALPS which comes very stiff, choppy and inaccurate. I played around with udev rules and acceleration settings which made it a bit better, but it is still far from the awesome accuracy and smoothness of the W540, my last machine. Same with the three buttons on top of the TrackPad - especially the left one doesn't react reliably when hit on the lower right corner. I have to press a second time every ten clicks or so. This definitely sucks, so my question is: Is anyone aware of other manufacturers/options of especially TrackPoints and TouchPad-buttons for the P1 apart from ALPS? BestMarkus





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Good Day!I'm from the Philippines and I bought a refurbished thinkpad p50 from the US at 2016 and I extended its NBD warranty until June 1, 2018. The touchpad and trackpad suddenly stopped working a few weeks ago and it seems that the bios can't recognize them. The wifi reception seems to have also weaken, requiring me to be closer to the wifi source than before. I also tried reinstalling the drivers but it can't still identify the two pointing device. I'm actually planning to ship it to the US this week before my NBD warranty expires, but I don't know anyone from the US right now to avail the NBD service. May I know which address must I send it to, and the proper procedures to avail the repairs?I already spent $170 for the warranty extension last year, and I'll be spending another $100 for the DHL shipping to the US. May I also know if Lenovo will answer the shipping back to my country, since if not, I'll be spending another $100 for it to be shipped back to the Philippines?I also tried calling the service center from the US but I kept on having long calls with no response. Thanks!

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I have a Thinkpad T440S and have a problem that many have reported. The trackpoint and touchpad initially work upon bootup but then stop working after a few minutes.I believe I've tried everything (uninstall/reinstall drivers, replace keyboard, replace hard drive and do a complete reinstall of all software, update everything, etc etc etc). Nothing works and the only reason I can still use my computer is that a wireless mouse will work. It's time to get a new computer. I've bought Thinkpads for more than a decade but I still see this problem being reported for the T470 so Lenovo can't or won't bother to fix this. Any suggestions for a different brand and model? I do like the trackpoint so does that mean Dell is my only alternative?

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After using the ThinkPad Yoga 260 for about two weeks, both the trackpoint and touchpad are now unresponsive. I've tried updating the drivers, rolling back the drivers and uninstalling the drivers and installing the latest one. None of it works. I managed to get it working once with a BIOS update but as soon as I put it in sleep mode, both became unresponsive again. Under Mouse Porperties the TouchPad option is grayed out and the TrackPoint option is sometimes grayed out and sometimes not. Regardless, it is completely unresponsive when enabled and disabled.

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Hello, I bought a brand new X1 Carbon 20Q model and it seems at even after running all the think vantage updates, there is the Ultranav option missing in the mouse options. I want to configure the touchpad settings individually (e.g. switch primary and secondary buttons only for the touchpad but not for the USB mouse). Also right click by double clicking on the trackpoint is not working at the moment. In short, I miss all the options usually provided in thinkpad models. I tried everything, please help if you can. The drivers listed on the lenovo page seem not to work. I installed the newest touchpad driver, yet in the device manager it still shows the MS driver from 2006... Thank you! 

A:X1 Carbon 20Q Trackpoint and Touchpad Options all missing!

Hello and welcome,
 
My suspicion is that pointing device control has been taken over by Microsoft - "precision touchpad" - in newer ThinkPads.
 
You  might be able to confirm that for your machine usig this:
 
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht506066
 
Z.

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Hi. Suddenly touchpad stopped working. Did a windows reset, Bios update, all drivers update, disabled in bios then reboot. Every time i reboot i get code 24 error on ThinlPad ultranav device. It doesn't even work when i boot to windows pe or some other linux bootable cd. What am I doing wrong?

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Just got my T480 and I love everything about it except for the touchpad and trackpoint are awful and lacking options. If one of my fingers is touching the trackpoint, sometimes when I double click using the left side touchpad button, unless i do it super slowly, it wont register.If one of my fingers is touching the trackpoint, probably half of the time when I single click with the bottom left 'button' it will register as a double click. Sometimes a single click will register as a triple click; sometimes a double click will register as a triple click.If one of my fingers is touching the trackpoint, for the 'buttons' under the touchpad, there is a long delay before the action registers on the screen. A lot of the time it wont register at all.Sometimes when I push in the touchpad on the bottom (*not* the bottom right) it will still register as a right click. Sometimes pushing in on the left side will register as a right button press. This gets even more screwed up if im touching the trackpoint.I use firefox gestures and to activate you use the right mouse button. If one of my fingers is touching the trackpoint, when I  use the bottom right button to do this, it will often act as if Ive done a right click when i let go of the button.If im moving the trackpoint and press the left side of the touchpad to select multiple things, it wont work (it will very briefly open the selection rectangle and close it). I have to first click down the left side of the touchpad, with abso... Read more

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After using the ThinkPad Yoga 260 for about two weeks, both the trackpoint and touchpad are now unresponsive. I've tried updating the drivers, rolling back the drivers and uninstalling the drivers and installing the latest one. None of it works. I managed to get it working once with a BIOS update but as soon as I put it in sleep mode, both became unresponsive again. Under Mouse Porperties the TouchPad option is grayed out and the TrackPoint option is sometimes grayed out and sometimes not. Regardless, it is completely unresponsive when enabled and disabled.

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After switching to tablet mode in Windows 10, the touchpad and trackpoint are both disabled. I tried disabling and re-enabling it in the BIOS, no effect. Tried updating to the latest ELAN driver, no luck... in fact, there's no option for enabling / disabling the touchpad in the dialog box, and the ELAN dialog box is just a big blank. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling all Lenovo drivers; no luck. I saw some suggestions that I should disable some sort of Intel sensors in the BIOS, but I couldn't find those settings.  Suggestions?

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Hi, After dropping my laptop, both touchpad and trackpont have stopped working along with buttons on touchpad. I am wondering if I need to replace keyboard and touchpad or should I have a look at something first before doing this. I've checked Hardware maintenance manual and couldn't find any related information regarding this. 

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I have a very annoying problem with my T460p: When suspending the laptop and turning it on again, the trackpad and touchpad devices stop working entirely (no response at all). The problem cannot be fixed by rebooting the machine and can only be resolved by completely powering down the laptop, removing the battery and restarting it afterwards. Symptoms: * During  boot, a message "PS/2 mouse not detected" shows up.* The Windows device manager shows the synaptics touchpad as not functioning.* The problem occurs both under Windows and Linux (Ubuntu 16.04) I am running the latest BIOS version and have updated all drivers on the machine. I have also checked all BIOS settings. Lenovo already replaced the laptop twice, but the problem persists, hence I conclude that it's either a problem in all of the synaptics components or related to something else. I have found many similar bug reports in this forum and elsewhere, not only for the T460p but also other models like the T440 series, hence this is not an isolated case. Please bring this problem to the attention of the support staff, as this is something that is completely unacceptable for a laptop in this price range (especially since everything else is working perfectly). The laptop has the following configuration btw: * i7 6600HQ processor* 20 GB Ram (4 GB on-board + 16 GB extra RAM)* 2 TB HDD + 512 GB SSD via M.2 slot* Otherwise standard configuration Thanks for your help!

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