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Compatibiliy Of Vista Complete Backup & Restore With Rev Drive

Q: Compatibiliy Of Vista Complete Backup & Restore With Rev Drive

I would like to ask if there is someone with a Vista computer who also has an Iomega REV drive installed who can run a test to determine if they can execute a "Complete PC Backup & Restore" using the REV drive as the backup destination? The operation to run this test is as follows. Put a blank, formatted disk in the REV drive, then press Start, then Control Panel, then go to Backup & Restore Center, then press the Backup Computer tab, then "after looking for backup devices" finishes, select "on one or more DVD's", then select REV drive, then press "next" twice, then press "Start Backup". At that point a screen will appear that has written, "Windows is saving the Backup" and "Preparing to Create Backup". If this screen remains for a few minutes, and progress is indicated by the advancing blue bar, then the backup will be successful. If the backup is not successful, then an error message will appear that says, "Media is not UDF". I always am forced to terminate the backup at the error message, "Media is not UDF". I will be eternally grateful to anyone who will run this procedure and email me the result at ***************. At Iomega Technical Support there is no one there who has Vista installed who can run this procedure. Thanks. James

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A: Compatibiliy Of Vista Complete Backup & Restore With Rev Drive

Bleepingcomputer.com Viewer: After a day and a half of attempting to solve the problem that my 35 GB USB REV drive was unable to store a Complete PC Backup in Vista, I have determined that the procedure is possibly possible. The closest I arrived at success is by uninstalling the REV drive software. In this instance Vista recognized the REV drive as a CD drive. I then ran the Complete Backup and Restore program with the REV drive recognized as a CD drive. The backup then completed successfully, and after reinstalling the REV drive software, the Vista Restore program recognized the backup image. The problem with that circumstance was that although the same files were recognized in the REV drive backup as in the external hard disk backup, two backup files on the REV drive had a total of 11 GB less than the total of the same two files backed up on the hard drive. I found no evidence that compression had been used in backing up on the REV drive. I called Iomega and was told that compression is used in backing up to a REV disk. The Rep. said the backup should be O.K., since no errors were reported while backing up, and all files were verified. I attempted to copy the backup image on the hard drive to the 35 GB REV drive; however, 35 GB wasn't enough space for the copy, which was 38 GB. Perhaps, copy of the image to a 70 GB REV drive might work in the Vista Restore operation. Thank you for your interest and attention. James

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I did a full backup using vista backup and recovery centre onto a seagate 160gb usb drive.  The backup completed successfully so I rebuilt the machine.
On trying to rebuild, I run bakup and restore center and it cant even see the drive (it can see the C partition, the E (recovery) partition and nothing else.  It doesnt see the D (Data Partition) or the USB device.)
Tried copying it to the E partition and forcing it to use it but get  backup location not found which is mentioned elsewhere as an issue with mediaid.bin.
any ideas, i now have a shiny sparkly new machine with no data on it. 
The data is there in a compressed form but id much rather restore properly.
grateful for any help.

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I did a full backup using vista backup and recovery centre onto a seagate 160gb usb drive.  The backup completed successfully so I rebuilt the machine.
On trying to rebuild, I run bakup and restore center and it cant even see the drive (it can see the C partition, the E (recovery) partition and nothing else.  It doesnt see the D (Data Partition) or the USB device.)
Tried copying it to the E partition and forcing it to use it but get  backup location not found which is mentioned elsewhere as an issue with mediaid.bin.
any ideas, i now have a shiny sparkly new machine with no data on it. 

The data is there in a compressed form but id much rather restore properly.
grateful for any help.

A:Vista Backup and Restore - Mediaid.bin problem cant restore from backup on Seagate USB drive-backup location not found

If you get the following error when restoring your backup to its original HD (see error code bellow)Error Description:When you use the Restore Files option to restore a backup file on a Windows Vista-based computer, you may receive the following error message: The restore did not finish successfully. Error code: The backup file could not be found. Check your hardware configuration or restore from a different backup (0x8100001A). and the Mediaid.bin file is corrupted or lost, then use the following instructions for rebuilding it:1.Unzip the sdutil.zip file and rename it from sdutil.ex_ to sdutil.exe2.Copy the sdutil.exe to the root of the driver which contains the backup files3.Open the folder Catalogs located bellow the folder BackupSet ?aaaammdd? ?xxxxxx?4.Copy the file GlobalCatalog.wbcat to the root of this HD5.Go to Start -> Execute and type CMD.exe6.At this ?DOS? window type: sdutil mediaid GlobalCatalog.wbcat [HD letter (as an example D:\)]7.A new MediaID.bin is created8.Try to restore the backup as usual using the advanced restore option and next the option restore an older backup created in this machine9.If done: it?s over!10.If it fails: Map a network driver at your LAN11.Copy the MediaId.bin file to the root of the previous mapped LAN driver12.Copy the whole folder BackupSet ?aaaammdd? ?xxxxxx? to this same driver13.Try to restore the backup as usual using the advanced restore option and next the option restore backup created in another mach... Read more

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When I select a DVD or Rev drive for a complete PC Backup & Restore operation, I receive error messages. If I select the Rev drive, I receive the error message, "media is not UDF", when the Rev disk reports UDF format. When I select the DVD drive, I receive the error message, "insufficient space for backup", when the previous screen stated only a 1 GB space is required and the blank DVD has 4.67 GB space. I've formatted the disks before inserting them, but that does not correct the problem. I am able to perform a Complete PC Backup to a NTFS formatted external hard disk. Is there a person who has experienced this difficulty with the Complete PC Backup & Restore facility in Vista or knows a solution for it? Thanks. James

A:Vista Complete Pc Backup & Restore

I discovered why the DVD option wasn't working with the Complete Backup and Restore program. I had a +RW CD inserted in the DVD drive instead of a +RW DVD. The program works very well if a +RW DVD disk is used. However, I still need to discover how to make a Rev drive work. Perhaps the program won't work with this type drive, although there is no problem copying and storing usual files with it. James

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Hi, this is my first post on this forum so hope all goes well.

A few months ago I upgraded my computer and with my new computer build I am
using Vista 64 Ultimate.

With the new build I have gone through a few iterations of hardware (two
faulty mainboards) and now the hardware side is solid I have now set up the
disk partitioning and software. I was planning on using Vista Complete PC
backup and restore and hoping I would have iterations of the backup to
restore from in the future or indeed while populating the software.

I have problems with building an iterative "complete pc and restore backup"
file. The initial WindowsImageBackup file builds ok (in this case image only
of the c:\ drive) and if I restore from Vista install disk it can be found
and restores ok. The backup is on z: partition which actually reverts to K:
when accessed by Vista install disk from complete pc restore option.

If I then install/add more apps and files to the C:\ partition (OS) and do
another complete PC and Restrore backup it increments the original build,
changes time/date file name etc and file size increases about 1.5gb (approx
size of change to OS partition). Does all the things it appears to need on
the original file.

BUT when I try to restore booted from the vista install disk all that could
be found was the original build (filename, time/date) but nothing of the
incremental builds (2) that had been added. I further proved this by actually
restoring an... Read more

A:Vista Complete Pc Backup And Restore

Well seeing as I didn't get a reply, I figured I should reply to myself and at least post findings in case someone else has similar problems.

I have solved the puzzle of the missing incremental backups.

In my desire to be "SAFE" I had copied the original windows complete backup folder to another drive, so I then had a copy of the original backup on S: drive and my normal backup on the Z: drive.

The backup on the Z: drive (as indicated previously) had been incremented several times.

I couldn't see the increments on the Z: drive backup when I booted from Vista install disk but it did find both available backups, ie. the backup file on S: and the backup file on Z: (but these were renamed as D: and K: under install disk).

I checked both and they both only showed the original backup and original time/date, which was very disappointing.

IN the meantime because of this problem with Vista Complete Restore and Backup I tried a trial version of Acronis True Image Home 11 and it appeared to be a very good program, backed up nicely, allowed a view of backed up files and easy restoration from within Vista. This looked really good so I decided I would create the Acronis boot disk to check that I could restore whenever I wanted (after all that is the main aim of the program)

Hmm, Acronis is not good for restoring from boot disk if you have all SATA drives, it can't see them, it will see standard IDE and I have one of those. After very little web research seems like a lot of... Read more

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I was using Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore in Vista Business and clicked the cancel button during the reformat of my HD. Subsequently, I lost my OS. I called Dell support and they helped me reinstall my Vista OS using the reinstallation disk that came with my PC. However, when I now try to restore my data from the external HD using the Complete PC Restore function I can't because the Repair your computer option no longer appears in the Windows startup menu on the reboot. Apparently, the Dell tech had me erase my recovery partition during the OS reinstall (because I was told he wanted a "clean" install). I now can't use the backup application that came with Vista Business any longer. Your help in resolving this problem would be appreciated.

A:Vista Complete PC Backup & Restore

Well unfortunately, you have a problem
The possible solutions are
1. Boot from the re-installation disc - most OEM reinstallation discs are the same as a retail disc and include the - complete Pc Restore option

you will not have that facility on the F8 menu as that was previously included on the computer as part of the recovery partition

HOWEVER there is a downside to this - the complete backup and restore - created CANNOT be used to restore individually selected items.
By that I mean you cannot select your documemts etc., and simply restore those.

YOU RESTORE the whole of the computer to the image made on the complete backup
If the backup was corrupted then obviously the restore will be and it will fail

To accomplish what I think you are looking for you would have needed not the complete PC backup, but a file backup which does allow you to select what you wish to restore as the backup in that format can be opened.

THERE is a way round this - well two actually that I know of.
1. Take out that hard drive, install another hard drive
2. Install Vista and restore from that complete backup, then copy ONLY your personal data DO NOT copy the complete users folder as that will include the various settings and when applied to the original installation now made by the Dell tech will cause complete mayhem
Then having copied from that installation to a flash drive you can then copy to t... Read more

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My computer RAID set started reporting occasional errors messages. But system was working fine. So I started a new Full backup to a non-RAID hard drive. Full backup completed successfully. After that I also started a data backup. Since then computer started to fail time to time (Mainly at boot up). After a several days my computer failed during a data backup. Knowing that I had a complete backup from a few day ago , I decided restore my computer.
My Original setup was RAID 0 (2 x 500GB SATA Disks) for System partition and Data partition. And I had another Non-RAID 1TB disk for backups.
Backup locations were as follows;
H:/SONATA-II/Backup set 2009-12-14 ? Data backup location
H:/Windows backup/sonata-ii/backup 2009-12-09 ? Full Backup location
I am trying to do a full restore using a Vista boot disk. It finds the backup catalogue from data backup folder and when trying to restore but come up with an error.
Error: Complete restore failed.
Error details: Element not found.
Is there a way I can avoid the data backup and restore from complete backup from location specified above?
I know complete backup is good. I can open that backup with Winimage software and see all contents.
Your help will be greatly appreciated.

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I have the following hard disks:

500 GB:
|- 250 GB Vista (old)
|- 250 GB contains a PC-Complete backup of the above partition

1000 GB:
|- 700 GB Linux
|- 001 GB Linux
|- 003 GB Linux
|- 300 GB Empty
|- 003 GB Linux Swap

I now want to restore the Vista PC-Complete backup to the "Empty" 300 GB partition of the 1000 GB disk, so that I no longer need the 500 GB disk,
but the tutorials I've found regarding Windows Recovery are not detailed enough to answer the following questions:

1. Will the recovery of the Vista-DVD keep my other partitions (those labeled "Linux" above) intact?
2. The new partition (labeled "Empty") is a logical partition, the old Vista partition of the 500 GB disk was a primary. Will Vista be able to boot from the logical partition (preferably via Grub)?
3. Will I be able to use the whole 300 GB of the "Empty" partition afterwards or will Vista directly mirror the contents of the old partition so that I only have 250 GB available?

Thanks in advance for your answers

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I've seen posts on other forums discussing this issue, but the resolutions are not really directly on point...or they are so extreme they are unreasonable..unless you have lost a file that just cannot be replaced. Here goes.

Since running VISTA Ultimate I have encountered the issue where VISTA gets stuck at the WELCOME screen after entering login credentials. After having to rebuild several times because of this, I decided to get an external USB drive and back the machine up using the tool "Vista Complete PC Backup/Restore". I backed the machine up weekly. Several times the "welcome" issue appeared and I was able to restore the box back to the most current backup...without incident.

Yesterday the sticky WELCOME happened again, so I attached my USB drive and went into PC REPAIR and started the process to restore the entire PC from a backup.

I get the message Vista "Complete PC Restore" doesn't recognize backup files or something similar (no locations) and the option to enter a location manually is not available.

I rebuilt the machine using the HP recovery disks and it is now running in its base configuration, without any of my additional software or configuration.

I can see the USB drive, and I can see the directory where the backup files are held. (I named the PC to the exact name when I rebuilt it), but I still get the same message when trying to rebuild.

Any help is appreciated.


A:Vista "Complete PC Restore" doesn't recognize backup files.

Did you boot from you install DVD to do this?

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I am looking to restore a complete backup in Vista. Vista is installed on a 500gb internal c: drive and the backup is installed on a physically seperate 500gb internal d: drive.

I have other files on the backup drive (outside of the backup images) that I want to be sure to keep. When trying to perform the backup, the dialog boxes are unclear as to whether or not any files will be erased from the backup drive. It just says that all files will be erased.

Will the full restore put everything on both drives as it was, or will it only affect the c: drive?

A:Does Complete PC Restore delete other files from backup drive?

Hi infinitr, what did you use to make the backup?

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I suffered a hardware failure on the system (C:\) volume yesterday, which is in a RAID 0+1 configuration (of four Western Digital Raptor 74GB drives). I managed to keep the system up long enough in degraded mode to perform a full (and successful) Complete PC Backup onto an external USB hard drive.

This was done just in time, as at the next reboot, the RAID array failed completely and caused data loss (amongst others, my user profile files and the boot manager system file).

When I booted up with my original Ultimate DVD and chose to completely restore the PC, it cannot find any images despite the USB drive being connected to the PC. I have verified in the BIOS that the USB drive was recognised. Upon further research, the original (pre-SP1) Vista RE does not support the loading of USB drivers at the Complete PC recovery stage - these drivers have to be loaded in manually via drvload.exe in X:\windows\system32.

I tried to load in drivers in C:\windows\system32 (surprisingly still accessible), but failed to do so.

Has anyone done this before? Where do I find the correct INF to load into Vista RE in order to access my Complete PC Backup image? Do I need other INF files in addition to USB.INF to get this working?

I presume it may be necessary to get the USB drivers onto a CD-R and loading them in that way, although I'm hoping the solution will be more self-contained on the PC's system drive.

A:Vista Ultimate Complete PC Restore from external USB drive

Actually, just a thought - given I have a full backup image of my system drive - can't I just re-install Vista and then run the restore from within Vista itself, rather than via the DVD?

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Im looking into getting a new pc with entirelly new hardware in the next 6 months.

I have over 100 applications installed on my current (3 years old) Vista PC and I have made a complete image/backup using Vista's "Backup & Restore Centre".

I have not tried this before but if i buy a new pc and install vista on that, then would i be able to restore my image to this new pc?

I have used easy transfer and understand i could only transfer my files and settings but no software.

I see the complete restore would make life easier instead of installing 100 software applications again. My understanding of "Backup & Restore Centre" is that it creates a partition image i.e. will have all the wrong drivers installed for the new pc even if i installed vista and correct drivers before the restore.

Searched the internet and dont feel im the only one. Any questions please ask.

Look forward to a reply


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Hi all - i really appreciate any help in advance
The other day i had a problem with my new laptop(vista) that i couldnt rectify - the only thing i could do is press f8 on boot to get into the repair your computer section of vista... It gave me the option of restoring my computer to factory settings and the option of backing up the files before i did so .
I formatted my usb drive and backed up everything i could from my computer and "reinstalled" Vista - backup restore file was saved to my usb drive.
Once up and running again with a "new" vista i double clicked on the file restore application and it asked me which parts i wanted to reinstall i said all and then continued and the backup restore started . I then however, stupidly and accidently hit cancel about a minute or two in.
Now i find that when i try to do it again and double click the restore application the timer icon comes up for half a second and then dissapears with nothing happening at all - over and over again.
I have tried all ways to get it to open and it will do nothing.
Since i first opened it and canceled it the file name has changed to backup.1 & it is now in subfolders: MINWINPC > Backup files 2008 > then backup.1 where as before the first time i ran it there were no folders just the application and nothing else.
I am sure the file name has changed but i cant recall what it was the first time - i was wondering if i renamed it would it work again??? Or any other ideas??? PL... Read more

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Has anybody succesfully backed up Vista and restored on a new bigger disk ?

I run Vista on a Sony Laptop with 2x160GB disks (OEM Vista Home license plus upgrade license to Vista Ultima). Now I would like to use 750GB disks.When I try backup/restore to make a "clone" onto my new disk it looks good at first but then I noticed that I can't read my Windows Mails ( I get an error of corruption), I can not run windows update with errors saying a service is not started although all services run as expected. I also can not see my second disk and a new device scan doesn't pick it up., etc.... Basically it does not work.

Any idea what is wrong ? Is there another way to "clone" the Windows C dive onto a bigger disk ? BTW I got the same result with a Unix dd, so I guess it is a Vista copy protection issue. Can someone confrm this ?

Thank you

A:Complete PC Backup/Restore failure

What model Sony laptop?


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is it possible to get the complete pc backup option (only on business and ultimate) on home premium?


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I use Vista Ultimate.
I've backedup my laptop 40 times and restored it another 100.
Now my Complete PC Backup & Restore feature is MISSING!!?!?!?!?!?!?
How do I get it back???
Please help me!

A:Complete PC Backup & Restore MISSING??????

Try this.
Click on the Start orb, type cmd in the Search programs and files box.  Programs will open above the search box, right click on cmd under it and choose Run as administrator.
When the Elevated Command Prompt opens type %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe and press Enter.

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I have a Dell Inspiron N5010 with Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit. First off, I have been trying to install updates on my computer and they keep failing. Since my computer has been acting sluggish. I have tried installing them one at a time and the windows repair tool and neither has worked. The next step is to restore windows correct? In order to restore windows I need to backup my files on the computer on a DVD-R or an external hard drive. I have tried running the back up on a Sandisk Verbatim 4gig flash drive and it is not working. It doesn't display any error messages or anything, it just says "back up did not complete successfully". I am not a guru by any means, just in college and trying to get my computer back up to speed before the next semester. Pleas help, anything regarding getting my computer running right again would be beneficial. Thanks!

A:Backup will not complete in order to restore windows, please help

Hi and welcome to Sevenforums,

Please follow this tutorial so we know what combination of hardware and system we are working with:

System Info - See Your System Specs

Next, please follow these steps:

1. Click the Start
2. In the search box, type cmd
3. In the list that appears, right-click on cmd.exe, and then click on 'Run as Administrator'
4. In the command window that opens, type sfc /scannow and hit enter on the keyboard

Once it finishes, please post back the results in your next reply.


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I would like to use Vista Ultimate's Backup and Restore Center to back up my Satellite A205-series laptop's hard drive to an external hard drive wirelessly. The external hard drive (which is NTFS-formatted) is directly attached (via a USB port) to my Belkin N+ wireless router, instead of being plugged directly into my laptop.

I know this WiFi network-based hard drive is recognized by my Satellite A205 series laptop, because it appears as "Drive Z:" when I click on "My Computer"...but the version of "Backup and Restore Center" that was included on my Satellite A205 laptop only allows backup to DVDs or a directly-attached hard drive--not network drives (strange for a laptop with built-in WiFi).

On the other hand, the version of Backup and Restore Center that is found on my computer at my office (also running Vista) only lists the drives on the computer at first--but includes a "More:" hyperlink whereby somebody with Admin rights can click and get access to network drives.

This "More:" hyperlink does not appear on the version of Backup and Restore Center on my Toshiba Satellite 205 laptop.

I can't even get anyone at Microsoft to talk to me without first
charging $69.95 for the "privilege".

Any suggestions?

A:Satellite A205 - Vista Backup and Restore Center with WiFi hard drive

Hi irsharp23,

> but the version of "Backup and Restore Center" that was included on my Satellite A205 laptop only allows backup to DVDs or a directly-attached hard drive--not network drives (strange for a laptop with built-in WiFi).
I think this is not a Toshiba related issue. Backup and Restore Center is designed from Microsoft and Toshiba has nothing to do with that. So I think you have to get in contact with Microsoft guys to ask for a solution or maybe there is an update for this tool.
Have you checked this?

Furthermore why you don?t connect the external HDD directly to your notebook? I don?t see a reason for connecting such a backup HDD via network because this backup image can only be used on your notebook.

Alternative I can recommend Acronis True Image that can save backup images on network or you use Microsoft SyncToy to synchronize your files between notebook and network. ;)

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I currently use Norton cloud storage but I'd like to backup to DVDs instead. Does all backup software have the convenience of search-ability? It's a pleasure to restore exactly a file specified, and only that file - that's what I mean by search-ability.
Thank you in advance for sage recommendations or advice!

A:What backup software is complete and has searchable file restore?

I assume you are referring to data backup, not Windows backup.

Any ordinary data backup I have seen can be viewed in Explorer and searched on a folder by folder or file by file basis.

But I'd use hard drives and avoid DVD burns.

Why have you chosen DVDs?

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Hey all,

I have a Windows 7 Pro x64 box with a 128GB SSD and a 500GB HDD in it. Recently, I ran into some booting trouble with Windows. First, while my startups used to be lightening fast, thanks to the SSD, the time from POST to desktop became increasingly longer. The desktop wouldn't appear for minutes at a time, and I would have to wait at a black screen after the splash logo before I'd reach the desktop.

I ran Malwarebytes, AVG 2012 Internet Security, Spybot S&D, and Trojan Hunter on my installation, but nothing turned up. One day, the computer simply stopped booting to the desktop, and would simply hang at the black screen before login, with a mouse visible, but without any keystrokes being recognized, including the venerable CTRL-ALT-DEL.

I decided to run Startup Repair from a System Repair disc I had made awhile back. Startup Repair found some issues, but it reported that it repaired them, and I attempted to reboot again. No dice. I ran Startup Repair a few more times, but no other issues were found, and booting still didn't work.

At this point, I decided that restoring from the Windows Backup Image I had created in Windows Backup would work. I had made the backup before the slow startup issue began to appear, so I thought it was a working backup.

I connected my external drive that contained the backup, and ran the System Restore program from the WinRE disc. However, when I was presented with the option to format and erase the target disk (my SSD) ... Read more

A:Complete System Restore from Windows Backup did not fix computer

Quote: Originally Posted by Diogones

I have a couple of questions:

1.) Naturally, my first query is, does anyone have any advice as to how I may fix this issue, and get Windows booting again?

2.) Why didn't the Restore work properly? Was it because I didn't allow it to reformat the drive? If so, should I run it again, this time enabling that option?

3.) I have read on the 'net about the black screen hang issue, but does anyone have an idea what might have caused it? I haven't made any untoward modifications of my system, except for downloading and installing the latest Windows Updates and updating all my existing apps.

4.) Would an in-place repair install of Windows work? I do have the retail disc when I purchased my copy of Windows 7 Pro, so could I insert that, boot up from it, and do a repair install to fix any issues with the OS?

My usual disclaimer: I'm not an expert at anything. From what you've indicated here's my best guess to your questions.

1. I'd suggest going through these troubleshooting tutorials that were prepared by one of the Forum experts. It may help to isolate a hardware problem.

Troubleshooting Windows 7 Failure to Boot

Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7

2. It sounds like there might be a hardware problem (failing motherboard, failing hard drive, bad RAM, etc.) A system image only copies data from the hard drive. Restoring a good system image to a machine that has failing hardware won't fix the... Read more

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Hi all,

I always use vista complete backup (Disk Image) to backup both my hard disks, but I am a bit confused as to the restore options. Basically, I have a sneaky suspition that one of the drives is going to fail in the near future, so I backup quite regularly, but when I replace it, I want to get a bigger drive, as it's only a 150gig raptor, and I really would prefer a 500 or 1TB 7200rpm drive for storage. Can vista restore the files I backed up on D: (the 150gig) to a new D: which would be a large disk ? If it can, could I also do the same for C: which is where vista is located ?

If that doesn't work, could anyone suggest a way I could do that ? As I do need more storage/main disk space now.

Any advice is appreciated

A:Vista Complete Backup

I don't use Vista complete pc backup.

However, there are several free apps. that will do exactly what you want:

Paragon Backup & Recovery 10 Free Edition

Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download

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I did complete image backups of my Vista computer using Wbadmin to a network drive. My computer had a problem, so I tried to do a restore from the network drive booting from the Vista DVD but that did not work. When I type the path to the network share the restore program cannot find the backup file. I then copied the backup files in the WindowsImage backup folder to a USB drive that I connected to the laptop and the same thing happens the program cannot find the backup files.

I know the backup files are good. I mounted the backup files using Vhdmount and I can see all of my files and folders.

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How come the only way to do a recovery from a Complete PC Backup in Vista requires bootup from the orginal Vista DVD?

Ive payed hard cash for the original. Id like to know its good and safe, but when I have to use it everytime i need a Recovery! I acctually have to bring the original disc with me on my weekly travels.

Cant I get a Vista boot disc or such, that has Complete PC Backup and Recovery-thing build in or something? Hell aint Vista new and all, should I be bale to do it from a usb stick ;)

Im frustrated

A:Complete Pc Backup In Vista Without Dvd?

Yeah, I definitely know what you mean. It can be REALLY frustrating. A lot of manufacturers are different in the way they sell their pc products. Some laptops come with built in recovery. My HP Pavilion DV9000 has a built in recovery - I never recieved a vista installation or backup CD.

It really depends on the manufacturer, but you may be able to go into your Computer section from the start menu, and it will list the drives. It's so hard to tell where EXACTLY it could be, but they should give you an option somewhere to burn a one time backup CD.

Aside from that - if you want to burn a backup cd, and aren't happy with carrying the original - what's the issue? Same data - same size, etc. Or just don't want to lose or damage the original backup cd just incase? Just curious.

Good luck though

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I am running Windows Vista 64 Bit Ultimate on a RAID 4x0 configuration (Promise Raid Controller and 4xRaptors in RAID 0)

But I really want to backup the whole thing (even the whole partition), so I can always go back in case of a RAID failure (not terribly unlikely with 4 drives) or otherwise damage to the windows setup.

I have a secondary raid array (2x500 Gb in RAID 0) and I would like to backup the whole first partition on to it and then be able to recover it, even onto a totally fresh partition and without having to install vista again (because of 8 Gb RAM and highend hardware installing vista is a nightmare).

What tool can I use to achieve this?

A:Complete Vista on RAID backup?

Lord Chaos,

Check out:




- John

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I'm in IT at a local University and we recently bought 50 laptops with Vista basic on them, i really don't want to load uninstall all the crap programs on there and then install several other programs one at a time. I was wondering what suggestions you might have of programs to use. I want to be able to make a full bootable backup copy of windows and installed programs onto however many Dvds that will take, or possible even put it on our server and install it from there.

A:Complete backup of vista onto Dvds

This link might help you.

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does the Complete Backup and Restore include copying and saving programs on hard drive?

A:windows vista pc complete backup

Greetings .

If you're using Windows Vista Business, Enterprise, or Ultimate then yes, the Complete PC Backup saves your installed programs and all of your settings so that when your restore from it the drive or drives you backed up are exactly the same as they were when you performed the backup.

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I have Vista Home Premium 32bit. Vista became corrupted to the point where I was not even able to start in safe mode. I managed to make a set of backup dvds through the HP backup system just before the computer completely died.

Vista Home Premium does not recognize these backup dvds, even though it does show that there are files on each of the dvds. Is there any way to retrieve the information on them? Any leads are greatly appreciated.

A:Vista Complete Backup problem

Originally Posted by tomwong

I have Vista Home Premium 32bit. Vista became corrupted to the point where I was not even able to start in safe mode. I managed to make a set of backup dvds through the HP backup system just before the computer completely died.

Vista Home Premium does not recognize these backup dvds, even though it does show that there are files on each of the dvds. Is there any way to retrieve the information on them? Any leads are greatly appreciated.

What is the extension of the files.. And you need the hp backup system software to restore the backup..

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I've got a new laptop with Vista Business installed and have been using the new Vista Complete PC backup a couple of times to backup my system partition C:, sometimes I also backed up my other partition D:

Great feature, I also tested restore once, worked without a glitch.

But since last week when I start Complete PC Backup, it does not let me backup just partition C: any longer, it insists on backing up C: and D: at the same time.

"(System)" is displayed in parentheses after C: and D: Apparently Vista now thinks that both of my partitions are system partitions, but they are not!

Does anybody have any idea how that happened?

I installed some apps on D: but that does not make D: a system partition, does it? Anyway apps were installed on D: before and backup of just C: worked no problem.

How can I convince Vista that just C: is my system partition and needs to be backed up?

A:Vista Complete PC Backup problem

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I back up my Win 7 PC using Macrium Reflect. Problem is, since I started backing up my C drive to a NAS Raid drive (instead of another locally installed hard drive), I have been unable to complete a backup.

Checked the Macrium support forums and it appears that the error in backing up has nothing to do with the backup software and is rather a Windows issue. Issue seems to be that my VSS Service is shutting itself down due to it being "idle". As a result the Macrium cannot complete the backup. I determined the VSS Service was the issue by checking the Windows error log.

Any ideas how I can prevent this service from going into "idle" mode?

A:Cannot Complete C Drive Backup

Click the start button, type in the search box services.msc click on that and give admin authority, scroll down to volume shadow copy, right click and select properties, change it to automatic. Hopefully that will solve your problem.

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I have hit a problem with "Back up and Restore" that wont work after the 1st 15 Minutes of trying to do a complete computer backup onto DVD+RWs.
When I first installed Vista Ultimate and the rest of my software on the 5/08/2007. I then made a complete backup of the entire system which took 4 DVD RWs. I still have these put away and have never needed them. Each week I have backed up my work onto an external hard drive.
Now I am trying to create a "Windows Complete PC Backup and Restore Image" of my entire computer. It runs merrily along for 15 minutes. The hard drive is flashing, the DVD drive is flashing and the processor is running nicely between 15 and 25% . The memory is steady at 35%. We are well past the stage when it has asked for a disc, and I have put one in.
When it stops you don't know its stopped except that the hard drive and disc drive have stopped flashing the processor has dropped off to virtually nil. There is an indicator moving along showing the process just above it says "verifying backup disc". This has also been merrily going along but it has now stopped level with the "di" of disc.
I left it running for another 40 minutes although it had stopped. But when I looked at the task manager it said that it was still running fine. Now when I finally took the DVD RW out of the drive the program had completely filled it at over 4GB but at no time had the program asked for another disc
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A:Vista Ultimate Complete Backup Centre

I would first check the Reliability Monitor and Event Viewer for errors relating to this issue.

Go to Start and type in "reliability" (without the quotes) and press Enter. In the left hand pane of the next window, click on Reliability Monitor and view the errors/warnings/information in the right hand pane.

For Event Viewer, go to Start and type in "eventvwr.msc" (without the quotes) and press Enter. In the left hand pane of the next window, expand the Windows Logs and then click on System and Application to view the log entries there. Scroll down to the time when the backup was running and see what it says. Then let us know and we'll work from there.

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I am unable to await assistance with my Rootkit infection any longer as it has rendered me computerless. As a result, I have decided to wipe the hard drive and reinstall Vista altogether in hopes of fixing the problem.

I have Vista Home Ultimate and have a few questions regarding data backup, specifically Vista Complete PC Backup, before I do so.

1. Does Vista Complete PC Backup copy any files/registry errors that may be causing my problem currently? IOW, is there a potential risk that this backup may copy the problem along with it?

2. Will Vista Complete PC Backup actually copy programs, program files, etc. such as my music, my saved images, my projects, etc.? Or does it just copy generic settings and Windows parameters?

Finally, is there a better option for me to wipe/reinstall a clean version of Vista with the intention of wiping a Rootkit virus w/o having to backup and copy all my other peripheral programs and their respective files, images, projects, etc.? (I am quite sure none of these peripheral files are the infected culprit)

Thanks for your help.

A:Infected. Question about Vista Complete PC Backup

Hello; please note I am not a staff member here, but perhaps I can help out.Reformatting is probably a wise decision, what with the carnage being wreaked in AII and HJT by these new rootkit variants. There's a guide to safely backing up your files here (by Blade):http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...t&p=1405010He suggests doing a thorough reformat, completely wiping the drive, because rootkits can and do hide in registry entries and System Restore points as well as executables and installers. If you save files to an external drive, run Flash-Disinfector as he suggests, and be careful which files you back up. I'd suggest asking about Vista Complete PC Backup in the Vista forum, where you may get a quicker response:http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/f/72/windows-vista/Good luck - Straythe

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I have a new Dell Precision M4300 laptop. I am trying to do a complete PC backup. Computer tells me to insert a black disk into Drive E. When I do this, I get the error message "There is no disk in the drive". I am inserting a brand new Sony DVD+RV 4.7G disk into this drive. The drive does work for installing programs so I know that the drive is fine. Can you please tell me why it's not recognizing that there IS a blank disk in the drive? This is very frustrating! Thank you for your help!

A:Windows Complete Pc Backup For Vista Business

If the drive works for installing things - it's reading from the disk. If it doesn't work with the blank disk - then it's not writing to the disk. This is 2 different operations. The standard for this model laptop is (I believe) a DVD-ROM - and with that you won't be able to write to a DVD. To be sure, check the writing on the face of the drive - if it says DVD-ROM, then it can't write to DVDs.

If it's not a DVD-ROM, can you write to a DVD from any other program? A quick test would be to right click on a file and select "Send to..." Then select your DVD drive to send it to.

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Hi all - so I've got Windows Vista Business running on a Compaq laptop. It's actually a new machine, 1.8 Dual Core 3 GB RAM 160GB HDD.

So I'm trying to run a full PC backup (Windows Complete PC Backup) and I'm getting an error. I've got a DVD burner and would like to select the "One or more discs" option, but it doesn't display my DVD drive (or my hard drive for that matter). If I select "backup files" it displays my DVD drive appropriately. I've confirmed that I do in fact have a DVD burner.

The error I'm getting is the following:

"Windows could not find backup devices on your computer. The following information might explain why this problem occured:

Catastrophic Failure (0x8000FFFF)

Please close the backup application and try again"

If I hit 'OK' on that dialog, another pops up saying: "No hard disks or DVD drives could be found for saving the backup. Please attach or install a hard disk or DVD drive, and try again."
Any help here would be greatly appreciated. I travel a lot for work and would hate to lose my machine on the road with no backups available (a complete PC backup would be awesome since I have a full development environment that would take 1-2 days to restore manually). Thanks in advance!

A:Vista Business Complete Pc Backup Issue

This is a vexing problem and requires a lot of troubleshooting to fix.

Start with checking the Volume Shadow Copy service to see if it's started.
Next, defrag your hard drive.
Next, if you've used any registry tools, use them to revert to a backup from before the time it happened.
Check your Event Viewer for error messages in both the Application and System categories
Go to Start and type in "perfmon /report" (without the quotes) and press Enter. Let the report run and let us know of any information or error conditions.

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I wasn't exactly sure where to create this thread, but seen as I am using windows 7 I thought here was best. So onto the point.

I am currently using a RAID 0 array, but am moving to an i5 rig tomorrow but don't want to have to go through the ordeal of reinstalling and restoring all my programs and files. So my idea is this, I have an empty 500GB hard drive spare in my pc, and wish to create a full image of my current "Logical" C: drive to the spare drive and then rebuild a new RAID array on my new motherboard and then restore the image. The problem I was faced with using Norton ghost was validation issues from windows which forced my pc into a useless hulk (I used another spare drive to simulate restore).

Does any one know of a way to create a 100% exact clone of my drive that will allow me to restore the image to the way my pc currently is.

Just to clarify, windows sees the array as one drive (JBOD)

A:Complete (100%) hard drive backup...

Sorry, just bumping to get some more views.

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Hopefully, I have the proper discussion group.

I am running some older software, most notably Adobe CS6, that has been automatically updated without the update files first being downloaded and stored on my computer. My computer is about 5 years old and I am concerned that if I have a hard drive crash I will lose many of my programs and be unable to reinstall the automatic updates (they may not longer be supported by the vendors). I will have the same problem if I buy a new computer.

I am wondering how I can backup the ENTIRE C: drive, my system drive (program files, windows files, registry, etc.), so that in the event that it crashes I can offload the backup to a new hard drive and quickly pickup from where I left off. In the event of a problem I would like to be able to boot from the backup drive or copy it to a new hard drive and continue as though nothing had happened. Is that possible?

I have two external Seagate backup drives, but they do not seem to be backing up the ENTIRE C: drive even if I check every folder for backup.

Thanks for your advice.

A:How do I backup the complete system drive

Get yourself an Imaging backup program like Macrium Reflect or Acronis True Image or etc. and store multiple copies of your entire base computer hard drive on both of your two Seagates.

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I've got Acronis True Image 10.
Can I backup all emails and then restore to a new installation of the hard disk?

Erm: OK... that might sound dumb!
That's *exactly* what it's supposed to do right!!?

I've got a copy of XP Tablet which is dying.
I want to do a full original installation restore and restore the emails.

Just wanted to double check!!

Also: I've made a backup (of another PC).
I have a file size that is 9GB.
How can I store this onto DVD discs?
And how can I make the discs be bootable??
So that I can juts restore the whole system by booting from the DVD discs?


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Hello All:

I am trying to restore my pc using the Complete PC Restore. My hd failed and I have installed the new one. I resinstalled Vista and made sure it recongized my usb hd (WD My Book). Now when I boot to the Vista cd and select Restore Entire PC, I receive and error that "No valid back up location could be found". It does not let me browse to the external hd and select the image files i created.

I tried to move the files around on the drive without any luck. the backup created 1 file called MediaID, a folder called Catalog with a few files in it and another folder called backup 2007-02-23 with a bunch of files.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

A:Vista Complete Pc Restore

Have you tried launching PC Restore from within Vista? It may have something to do with the current installation (although I'm unsure why) being in place.

Another option, since it doesn't recognize your MyBook, would be to copy the files to a separate partition on your hard drive so that you can access it.

Why it doesn't recognize your MyBook - I haven't a clue. It worked with mine (500 gB Essential Edition) the one time that I tried it.

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I am trying to restore my Vista from a Complete Image Backup. I have it on an external drive. When the system finds the backup and I press "finish" to launch it, I get a message that says "The Windows Recovery Environment is loaded from a hard disk, but Windows nees to format that disk to restore your computer. Reboot from a CD or DVD and try the restore again." HELP!! How can I do this???

A:Vista Complete PC Restore

System manufacturer and model?


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i want to know which one works best with vista ? in all matters
Thanks in Advance

A:Vista's Complete PC Backup VS Acronis True Image

Only you could answer that, a lot depends on which version of Vista you have as I believe the complete backup program is only part of certain versions of Vista, I have heard that it works very well though.

Acronis also has a good reputation but I haven't actually used it so can't give any opinion either way.

You're best bet is to do some research and find out as much as you can about both programs to see which would fit the way you use your machine.

Hope that helps

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Hello! My name is Apoorva. I am using Windows Vista which is installed on C:\ & Windows XP which is installed on D:\

I had taken a Complete PC Backup in the month of February in Vista using Complete PC Backup feature.

From the past few days, I was facing some issues with Vista and so I decided to use Windows Complete PC Restore to restore my computer back to what it was in the month of February.

Now when I started with the Restoration process, it said that it will erase all the files on C:\ & D:\.

I selected the checbox and continued with it, and my god!, when it restarted the computer after the restore process was complete, I found that all the files and folder on D:\ on which Windows XP was installed has been erased and restored with an earlier version.

Is there any way by which I can recover those files? All files including files in My Documents, Program Files & Windows have been erased and restored with what there was in February.

Awaiting eagerly for a reply...

Apoorva M. Sheth

A:Windows Vista Complete Pc Backup Has Erased All The Files.

Did you make a backup later than February that you can restore?

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As we all know about the Vista Complete PC Backup backup the DISK which is considered "System" disk.

Initially and normally, the C partition is the only "System" disk.

But I have found that if I install Kaspersky Anti-Virus in my D partition, the D partition will be the SECOND "System" disk!! And the Complete PC Backup let me doesn't give me a choice to backup without D partition (Both C, D will be backup)

After I figured it out, I uninstalled Kaspersky and then installed it in C disk; but after I install those software in D partiton, it happens again:

Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 & MSDN
Acronis Disk Director
Java JDK & JRE
Office 2007
Nokia Suite

is anyone know any of above causes the D become "System" partiton?
and more important, how does the Vista determine which one is system disk?

I cannot google any infomation about this issue, or maybe i used incorrect key words

A:Big Problem: Vista Complete Pc Backup System Disk

Have you tried this tutorial? http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/how-to-use-vista-complete-pc-backup/The computer will try and figure out what drives contain System files, and if there's something indicating that there are System files on the D: drive then it'll want to back them up. For instance, your system could boot from the D: drive, then pass control to Windows on the C: drive - so the backup would want to backup them both.

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Running Vista x64 Business and trying to do complete pc backup but message comes up after 2- 3 mins -The semaphore timeout period has expired (0X80070079) how can i resolve?

A:Vista 64 complete backup failure code 0X80070079

Hi tim perkins and welcome,

Here is a thread on the technet forum, don't want to send you away somewhere else but try the suggestions the thread discusses. And please do not post your email in the open forum.
Error 0x80070079: The semaphore timeout period has expired : Windows Vista Networking : Windows Vista IT Pro : Microsoft TechNet Forums

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I installed Vista 64-bit Retail on to an Intel P35 chipset motherboard (Intel DP35DP) today, updated drivers, ran SP1 and then the SP1 Cleanup tool. It has been fully Windows Updated as well. Problem is that when I go to do a Complete PC Backup it doesn't find any hard drives. I have a 74GB Raptor as my primary C: drive then a 640GB Western Digital as my backup drive. Both are seen fine in Explorer and its actually where I installed SP1 from. When I click on the Hard Drive option in the Backup it refreshes and lists no hard drives. I have done this several times before on previous installs of Vista using the same brand of motherboard and all the same components. I did disable some services (since restored them to automatic) as well as remove some windows components I don't use.

Its one of those things that I am having trouble googling and one of my searches brought me here to your site and guide on the backup. Anyhow, I searched your forums and didn't find anything related to my problem (at least for the couple different searches I tried). Hoping someone has seen this and can help! Thanks so much!

A:Complete Pc Backup - No Hard Drive Option

Figured it out! I had set Everest to run from my D: drive and had also enabled its Vista Sidebar support. Apparently this flagged the D: drive as a System drive and so Complete PC Backup was trying to backup both my C: and D: drives. I disabled the startup flag and deleted the entried in the registry and rebooted. Second drive showed up as a target in the Backup.

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My hard rive at the moment it making random sounds sometimes and is poretty much faulty so I am getting it replaced. What I was qondering is that is there any program that will backup my whole hard drive onto another hard drive I have and then when I get my new one all my settings will be the same.
by the way I am aware I can just use my other hard drive as mine but I need that for anyther computer later

A:How can i make a complete backup of my hard drive?

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I have a Dell Inspiron 531s with Vista Home Basic preinstalled when bought.

I would like to do a complete system restore of my computer (not the restoring backwards a few dates) and I have the Drivers and Utilities disc, Vista Reinstall disc, and a few other discs that came with it.

If someone would be kind enough to guide me through what to do I would appreciate it.

A:Complete System Restore (Vista)

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I'm running Windows 7 64x Home Premium on a Toshiba Qosmio X505 laptop. I just got it back from the warranty repair center, where they replaced the hard drive and graphics fan & heatsink, and reloaded the factory windows version. Before I sent it out for repair, I used Windows Backup to create a backup of all my files on a Toshiba casio 500GB external USB drive (I had over 300 GB of files, so it was easier to use Windows Backup than drag and drop all the files, at least at the time). Now that I have the laptop back, I'm having trouble restoring my files. When I go to Control Panel-> Backup & Restore, a message appears in the restore section, saying "Windows could not find a backup for this computer." I've tried reconnecting the drive as well as restarting my computer, but to no avail. I can see and explore the files in My Computer, so I know the hard drive is properly connected. I appreciate any help you can give.


A:Backup External drive seen by My Computer, but not Backup & Restore

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