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Q: Upgrading on a budget

I'm looking for a motherboard for my current ATX case. Currently, if you look at my specs, I am using an ECS L7VMM v1.1 with an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ processor and 512 MB DDR SDRAM. I will upgrade the RAM soon enough but I'd like to know what would be the best solution on a $200 budget, maybe $300 if I can get a halfway decent processor on the cheap. Must have AGP 8x/4x as I currently use GeForce FX 5500 and would like it keep it that way for now. Wouldn't be for anything special other than DOS playability via WIndows 98 and VB programming via Win 2K/XP.

Just some thoughts amongst the community about which one would be the better overall product for me.

Thanks in advance.

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A: Upgrading on a budget

Well, are you hoping to recycle any parts from your current setup or are you wanting to have 2 total?

Take a look at this bit I stole from Rage_3k_Moiz in this thread.




Try this build:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail - $59.99
GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail - $79.99
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail - $34.99
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM - $74.99
Antec earthwatts EA380 380W ATX12V v2.0 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail - $39.99
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - $54.95
Grand Total = $303.92 without considering shipping on some items (Shipping is free for most of them). A nice sturdy system that will last long and will do everything you want it to effortlessly. It gives you expansion options too, with a PCI Express slot on the motherboard and a PSU capable of supporting any card upto an 8800GT (Just in case you think of delving into the addiction that is PC gaming ).Click to expand...

I think you'll have some difficulties getting 98 to run properly on a modern system, so you may be better off running 98 in a virtual machine from within XP on that.

That machine obviously doesn't have an AGP slot, but its not worth buying a motherboard now that has one because it limits you so much on everything else, trust me, I did it once. Plus that FX5500 probably isn't any better than the onboard video on the motherboard.

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Hi, I'm trying to upgrade a HP 500-164. It has a A8-6500 CPU, 8gb RAM and a MS-7778(Jasmine) MoBo in it. I cannot find much information on this MoBo, which ultimately leads to my problem/question. I want to upgrade the GPU in this PC and want to just confirm that the following devices are compatible;  a Corsair CX600 PSU and a Gigabyte AMD R7 360 GPU. If I could get confirmation that this will work, that would be great. Thanks in adavance.

A:Upgrading PSU and GPU on a budget

@RCA84, welcome to the forum. Here is the Motherboard Specifications that should tell you what you want to know about it. The CX 600 will work fine.  You should make certain that it has the necessary power dongles required by the video card. This Gigabyte R7-360 will fit perfectly into the space proveded for it and should a great job for you. Please click the Thumbs up + button if I have helped you and click Accept as Solution if your problem is solved. 

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hello all! i just had to announce that i have finally bought some hardware from newegg.com to upgrade my pc. i tried to balance performance and cost so no 3 GB of Ram ... yet


okay i know u all are dying to know what i bought here it is:

MAXTOP Case
its got 5 fan slots: 2 rear, 1 front, 1 top and 1 side fan. also cheap!
$28.00

ASUS A7N8X Deluxe Retail
this is the only high end part i bought, mobos are the most important part of a pc imo.
$124.99

AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ "Barton" 333 FSB PROCESSOR CPU- RETAIL
To me this is an excellent deal for a 640KB cached chip for
$90.00 (arrhhh they raised the price by 3 dollars! thats like half a frozen pizza!)

Samsung 160GB 7200RPM Hard Drive Model# SP1614N - OEM, DRIVE ONLY
i really had to think out this one, i knew the western digital special edition hard drive was very popular; however this samsung is exactly the same as the aforementioned hard drive (warranty, cache, spin speed, seek time) EXCEPT for the ATA133 which the western digital only went to ATA100 ... also much cheaper than western digital's hdd.
$139.00

GEIL 256MB PC-3200 (400MHz) DDR RAM, 6 Layer Ultra Low Noise Shielded PCB
here i was really stuck, i knew i wanted at least 512 MB of ram but also wanted to run them in dual channel. since i was on a budget i had to look on the cheaper side while trying to not limit future upgrades, thus two sticks of pc3200 ram. here are the latency settings i have no idea what they mean: CA... Read more

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Originally posted by conradguerrero
damn fedex dont wanna drive through the 'ocean' to deliver my package in Hawaii, gotta take a 'plane' to Hawaii.Click to expand...

Haha, that's funny.

You may good choices on your parts. I would have gotten a "better" brand name of RAM or a more "higher quality" RAM. I'd give that stick a good change of being defective.
 

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First off, before I go into the hardware I just want to say you guys rock. I've been out of the loop the last year or two on hardware, but lately WoW has been going slow on my PC and I decided to upgrade my box finally (built it in 2002)

So here is what I'm getting:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6400 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115004

BFG Tech BFGR7950256GTOCE GeForce 7950GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 OC HDCP Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814143090

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145034

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822136073

Just getting the basics.. memory/cpu/motherboard/harddisks

I currently have an Allied 500 watt power supply (need replace maybe?)
and an Audigy soundcard

I'm not planning on upgrading my soundcard because I use a headset and its working great still

Thanks in Advance
Johnney 15fps
 

A:Upgrading on a budget, Your thoughts please!

First of all this would save you $1 and give you 4 meg cache.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115016
Forget Allied psu...junk go with Antec, Enermax or Thermaltake.
What are you thinking for a motherboard, rest looks fine.
 

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I currently own a dell XPS 8300 with the following specs:

Processor: i7 2600 3.4 ghz quad core
RAM: 12 gb
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6670
PSU: 460W
I am a computer science student and plan on using unreal engine 4 for some game development. I also plan to do some gaming over the next 4 months.

What do you guys think I need to upgrade, if at all? I don't want to spend too much money, I recently received a $75 gift card for best buy and would prefer to use that towards my purchase.

What do you guys think of the following:

ZOTAC GeForce 750 Ti 2GB

Diamond Radeon R7 250 OC 1GB GDDR5

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 750 2GB GDDR5
 

A:Upgrading my desktop after a while (on a budget)

Bump
 

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What I have:

Dell Dimension 3000
Motherboard without AGP or PCI-E slots
256mb PCI Radeon 9250 video card
2.8ghz Pentium 4 processor
512mb DDR RAM

What I want:

New motherboard that is cheap but upgradable
New case to fit said motherboard
New video card so I can play games like Battlefield 2 and Neverwinter Nights 2
Probably a second RAM chip so I can upgrade to a gig.

What I am asking:

What kind of motherboard and case can I get for cheap? Obviously the main feature I am looking for is just PCI-E slots and that the motherboard fits in the case, and 4 or more RAM slots. I can't figure out how to tell if my current processor and power supply will fit the new motherboard.

Is 1 gig of RAM enough these days? 512 has been doing me just fine with games like Half Life 2, Call of Duty 2, FEAR, etc....

What video card do I need? I'm looking for the cheapest one that will work with games like Neverwinter Nights 2, Battlefield 2, and similarly demanding games. The main problem I seem to be having with my current graphics card is that it is not compatible with Pixel Shaders 2.0. And that not only is it an older card but PCI is also less efficient.
 

A:Advice on upgrading my Dell on a budget

That's not an upgrade.. That's replacing the whole system

If you are looking for an upgradable mobo with a future, then your current RAM will probably be useless and your current processor too. So basically you are looking for a new computer here.

What is your budget? We need to know that in order to give any useful advice.
 

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Hi, I'm new to the site and have had a quick look at the forums and articles. Have found them very helpful. I am now looking to get some experienced help with upgrading the video card capabilities of my machine.

Will try and stick to the upgrading question framework as much as possible, so here goes...

1. Gaming limits - I will mainly be playing RPG's and RTS's. Am hoping to be able to run Dragon Age and DOW 2 at a decent level (not necessarily maxed out). Also looking to purchase Starcraft 2, Diablo 3 and The new Star Wars MMORPG in the future.

2. Budget - 150 to 200

3. Current PSU - This is all the info I could find, but I am looking to upgrade this as well

Power Provided - 400 Watt
Voltage Required - AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )

4. Computer Specs

Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 630i
Graphic interface - PCI-E
Memory - 4GB PC2-6400/800mhz DDR2 SDRAM
CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200
CPU Speed - 2.33 GHZ

For a bit more info. the model of PC is - Fujitsu Amilo Pi 3745 Tower

5. Country - United Kingdom

Hope I've given you enough info to help me out.

Thanks Guys
 

A:Upgrading video card and PSU on a budget

here you go

GPU - Club 3D ATI Radeon HD 5770 512MB 112.99 inc VAT 96.16 ex VAT
PSU - Corsair VX 550W 75.99 inc VAT 64.67 ex VAT
 

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So I posted a thread on whether it was possible to build a gaming PC for $250, it was not. I'm wondering if it would be better to upgrade some of my PC's hardware so it can run games?

Here's my current PC specs;



And here's the HP page for my PC HP Media Center m7000 Desktop PC series*-* HP Business Support Center

Could you guys recommend hardware that would be compatible with my computer?

Thanks, jloc.

A:Upgrading my PC to run games smoothly, budget of $250ish

No point of upgrading that computer with your budget. For example if you upgrade your CPU (which would cost ~$250) you will still have a bad graphics card, bad memory and I assume a bad PSU and vice versa to upgrading the rest. And if you did increase your budget I wouldn't upgrade that computer but make a completely new one as all the hardware on that is pretty much outdated.

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I've been running my small business on a Pentium III - 500 mHz machine with W98SE for years now with reasonably good stability maintained, more or less, until lately when it began to deteriorate a bit, and I run out of resources too quickly and too often by now.

I want to go to a new computer and go to XP but I don't know if I have the budget for it quite yet.

I have a number of apps that I need to use in my business, and a good deal of custom configuring. I think most of my apps should work on XP but I'm not really positive: MS Office 2000, PageMaker 6.5 (a bit old), GoldMine 4 (well, that's pretty old by now), PhotoShop Elements 2.0 (should be XP-ready), Nero Burning ROM 5.5, Cool Edit 2000, an old credit card processing program (ICVerify), Dreamweaver 4, Peachtree Complete Accounting version 7 (about five years old)...

I'm told that until I have the money to buy all of the latest versions of all of the programs I use, I shouldn't take the plunge into a new system with XP because trying to run older programs on it will be worse than what I have now. Is that really the case?

I guess that any programs that are less than a few years old are probably already XP-ready and are going to run fine on XP, right? (Of course I'll check each one first to make sure.)

Also, is the Professional version of XP generally going to be more practical for a small business than the Home version?

Thanks!
 

A:Upgrading small business system on a budget

You can download and run the XP Upgrade Advisor here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/advisor.asp

It should tell you which programs are compatible . .

And you can compare the two versions here: . .

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.asp

I usually reccomend the Home version because it costs half as much . . but the Pro version does have some features that make it worth the extra cost if you use them ( but frankly, most folks do not . . they just like seeing Pro on the startup . . and that is gone with sp2 now)

wrs
 

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I've been running my small business on a Pentium III - 500 mHz machine with W98SE for years now with reasonably good stability maintained, more or less, until lately when it began to deteriorate a bit, and I run out of resources too quickly and too often by now.

I want to go to a new computer and go to XP but I don't know if I have the budget for it quite yet.

I have a number of apps that I need to use in my business, and a good deal of custom configuring. I think most of my apps should work on XP but I'm not really positive: MS Office 2000, PageMaker 6.5 (a bit old), GoldMine 4 (well, that's pretty old by now), PhotoShop Elements 2.0 (should be XP-ready), Nero Burning ROM 5.5, Cool Edit 2000, an old credit card processing program (ICVerify), Dreamweaver 4, Peachtree Complete Accounting version 7 (years old)...

I'm told that until I have the money to buy all of the latest versions of all of the programs I use, I shouldn't take the plunge into a new system with XP because trying to run older programs on it will be worse than what I have now. Is that really the case?

I guess that any programs that are less than a few years old are probably already XP-ready and are going to run fine on XP, right? (Of course I'll check each one first to make sure.)

Also, is the Professional version of XP generally going to be more practical for a small business than the Home version?

Thanks!

A:Upgrading small business system on a budget

PIII-500 will run XP OK if you have enough ram. (256mb to be useful. XP is a memory/resources hog).
It really gets down to HOW low your budget is.
XP will give you more security & stability, but slower performance, usually requiring a ram upgrade to compensate, on any machine built for win98.
The cheaper solution would be to back up all the important data, make sure you've got all the apps software, then wipe the hdd & do a fresh install of Win98 & all your apps and data.
If your requirements haven't changed, and it does averything you need, it just needs a Spring Clean, so to speak. Win95/98/ME is inclined to collect all this junk over time, and routinely needs a fresh install every 1-2 years, usually.
When you can afford the new PC, XP will cost less when it comes packaged with the new one anyway.
But you could put XP on the PIII-500, and it will work.
If it's just a home office PC, and you don't need it to act as a file or web server for a network, then XP home will be plenty.

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Ok, so I'm on a mission to get this old eMachines good enough to play Far Cry, FEAR, and the likes (FPS's) decently (low/medium...)

The parts I'm reusing are:
MicroATX eMachines case (soon to be modded for a side fan);
DVD-ROM;
CD-R;
Floppy;
.... pretty much it.

I also have a 500W [new] powersupply that is simply sitting here under my desk in its box since I'm not using it. So count the powersupply as FREE, since I'm gonna use this one (compared to the 5-year old 250W one).

Here are the current specs:
Foxconn SiS chipset mobo, socket A, AGP 8x
SiS integrated crap
AthlonXP [Socket A ] 2000+
512 generic ram

Now, I can do anything you say. Change it all, just add in some graphics card, whatever you say.

I do not have a "specific" budget. Let's just say that the lower we can get it the better. (So uhh... yeah... no E6300 + 7600GT + 1GB ram k? )

I'm open to suggestions =). I already have some ideas of my own, but I want to here what YOU would do in this case.

Thanks in advance =).
 

A:Extremely tight budget: Upgrading 5-year old eMachines to play newer games

Hi man,
I'd get an Athlon 64 3000+, then a Radeon X800 card, and a good, cheap 939 mobo, like THIS ONE. MicroATX, even SLI support (for future upgrades), and great EVGA brand.

And finally, a cheap 512MB Corsair Value Select RAM (1GB highly recommended), and a fast 80GB 7200RPM Western Digital IDE HDD.

Regards :wave:
 

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I have $700 to use for a PC setup. I originally was just going to customize a Dell from the Dell web site until I saw how severally overprice many components were and even way outdated! Therefore I want to build my own with parts through Newegg.

Here's what I have so far:
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=12032652
I already have a Sata hard drive and THIS power supply so those 2 items can be excluded.

Can anyone tell me for sure the processor,motherboard,memory and case that I picked would all be compatible with each other?

I play on adding a video card down the road also. I remember reading but not sure if it was this specific motherboard, but one of them said it didn't have integrated video so I'm curious as to how you'd even install a video card with no video to install the drivers?
 

A:$700 Budget for a PC

$700 is a bit more than a budget computer...

You have an OS to install? At least until Windows7 comes out?

I would go with the following (order of your list)
1 - Case: Pretty much anything that is Rosewill = crap. Want a good basic black case with good airflow, try this:
Antec 300 $55 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 (IS your PSU 24pin and 4pin wires very long? Many of todays cases such as the 300 has the PSU on the bottom)

2 - Keyboard, $7 keyboards won't last long. A good cheap keyboard is an HP or Logitech for $15+ But none of them are as good as what was made 10-15years ago.

3 - Spend $40~50 more on a 24" Samsung. Acer tends to be washed out. Over at Costco, they sell the 24" Samsung for $200. $250 with HD-Tuner and HDMI input. (Add $50 from newegg) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001280

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Produc...=0&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

4 - With AMD DDR2 boards, its generally best to go with DDR2-800mhz: RAM 4GB DDR2 800 - $47 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682014518 G.Skills are good, I use them.

5 - Mice : Check out Logitech... $5~10 mice tend to live for a month or so. Spend at least $15+ Good mice are $30~50.

6 - Motherboard The 790 doesn't have onboard graphics. Not sure what you're asking. If you buy a motherboard without on-board graphics and you don't add a video card, you DON'T get vide... Read more

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My current computer:

Dell Dimension 4550

Penitum 4 Northwood 2.4ghz s478 (does not support prescott cpus )
350w Power supply
Nvidia 6600 OC
2 gigs of RAM (Max on Mobo)

I have $200, what can I buy to get decent FPS on TF2, currently I am sitting at 20fps.

Thanks in advance.
 

A:$200 budget what can I do.

Basically nothing. TF2 relies too much on the CPU for a graphics+power supply upgrade, which you could afford, to make any difference. A new motherboard, CPU, RAM and OS are out of your budget. ~80 $ for a decent motherboard, 110$ for a really good one, 50-80 for RAM, 80-130-150-190 for a CPU, 90-150 for an OS.
 

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Q: Budget

I wanted to know if any of you guys could help me with creating a budget sheet in Excel 2010 to track all the different people I owe money too and how much I have paid and remaining balance, with dates for each entry. Thanks in Advance!!
 

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I am eventually going to build a budget pc, but for now im trying to understand the parts as much as I can. For the cpu i wanted to know what the discription of the cpu
is, for Ex. "Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53470"
For the "3470", I wanted know what that means, like if its overclockable by that much. as well as the "Intel HD Graphics 2500", does that mean what type of graphics card it is compatable with are something else. If any one can help explain these things to me I would be very much greatful. those discriptions above are the only ones I need thank you.
 

A:Budget PC

Start by Googling & reading.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405044,00.asp

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5871/intel-core-i5-3470-review-hd-2500-graphics-tested
 

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Hi Everybody!

I need some help with my HP Compaq Presario SR5030NX Desktop PC. Lately I have noticed that it has been running low on memory and the performance has been slow. I have already upgraded my RAM to the max capacity (2GB /2 GB (max) ) and I have been running into problems when trying to do general things like surf the net, run WMP11, and some general multitasking. WMP will start skipping as I am running an application or browsing the internet or I will have slow loading times.

I am just wondering if there is anything I can do to improve its performance by not breaking the bank. I have thought about buying a non integrated graphics card to free up memory but I would also need a new PSU since I am working with stock. Could buying a new Mobo with more RAM expansion and a faster processor help or is there anything that you all could think of?

I use my PC for listening to music, surfing the internet, editing videos, and business applications.

Here are a few of my specs:

Desktop PC HP Compaq Presario SR5030NX
Processor Intel Pentium 4 641 / 3.2 GHz
Type & Installed Size L2 cache 2 MB
Chipset type Intel 945GC Express
RAM 2GB / 2 GB (max) PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM
Hard Drive 160 GB Serial ATA-300 7200rpm
Graphics Intel GMA 950
OS Windows Vista Home Basic
Security / Utility Software Norton Internet Security (always on), PC Tools Spyware Doctor (occasionally on), PC Tools Registry Mechanic (occasionally on)
 

A:Budget PC needs help

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I just bought the HIS HD 4670 IceQ Edition 1GB graphics card and its bottle necking on my pc..

My current cpu is intel pentium 3ghz..

I got 100 was less.. Which cpu would be best ??

I need intel socket 775

I want to play my GTA IV... I no my NEW graphics card not amazing.. But it can play GTA IV.. Its on youtube.. reviews etc.. But it lags.. and my current cpu was like 98 usage in benchmark test :L

Also play cod4
 

A:What CPU should I buy on a £100 budget?

I was thinking maybe

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139971
 

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Gentlemen,

I am building a low budget PC for a friend of mine. He would like the system for a couple of music mixing programs and to play a few lower end games. Here is what I put together from NewEgg. Let me know what you think.

Case
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811129150

Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813123219

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819104224

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820144310

Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144362

OS
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16837102151

For the graphics card, I have an old PNY GF4-4400 w/64MB that I can give him. Do you think this would be a good barebones system for him? Any problems that you might see?

Joe
 

A:Low Budget PC

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Making new computer 6-8 monitors (8 preferred) for 80% business 20% gaming.

Need a completely silent case so I don't hear the fans or whatever.

Right now I'm looking at 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133165 for videocards.

Soundcard?
Speakers?

CPU?
mobo?

HD?RAM?

and what kind of monitors should i get? I use 2 ultrasharp 20.5" dell ones atm (1600x1200 res)

any recommendations is appreciated. also wanna hook up a wiimote and a wireless internet card.
 

A:$10,000 Budget

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So, this computer that I'm thinking about started out cheap, but has gotten a little more expensive over time. This is the first build I will be attempting, so this is pretty cool for me. After having multiple computers from places like Dell, I've decided to just build my own. This computer will be used for a range of things, including some gaming (stuff like Tomb Raider: Legend), Internet, Music/Video, School, and so on. Here is what I have so far (just looking at Newegg right now):

- Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case -- $99.99
- GIGABYTE GA-EP43-UD3L LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard -- $79.99
- Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 Wolfdale 2.8GHz 3MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor -- $ 119.99
- Rosewill RC-204 IDE to SATA Mini Vertical Bridge (for IDE device) -- $14.99 (I have 3 IDE drives and 1 port (2 devices) on the mobo)
- Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W ATX 12V 2.0 Power Supply -- $59.99, $39.99 after rebate
- G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL6D-4GBNQ -- $47.99
- SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card -- $74.99, $64.99 after rebate

Totaling: $467.93

I am using from my old computer:
- 120 GB Seagate SATA HDD
- 120 GB WD Caviar IDE HDD
- D-Link WDA-2320 PCI Wireless Card
- Some Hauppage TV tuner (I don't remember the model)
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A:Budget Rig

Try this as an alternative build:

AMD Phenom II X2 550 Callisto 3.1GHz Black Edition 6MB L3 Cache CPU - Retail - $102 + free shipping
ASUS M3A76-CM AM2+/AM2 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail - $59.99
OCZ Fatal1ty Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit - Retail - $49.99 ($39.99 after $10 rebate) + free shipping
XFX GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Retail - $89.99
BFG LS-550 550W PSU with Active PFC - Retail - $68.49 + free shipping
Antec Nine Hundred Mid-Tower Gaming Case - Retail - $111.22 + free shipping
You can go with the Corsair 400CX instead of the BFG PSU if the latter is out of your budget.
 

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Greetings everyone. As a result of my recent lemon from CyberPower, I have decided to just build a new gaming rig myself.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tonight I am going to tweak and further research some build ideas, but there is always some one on here who has some useful insights to offer.
 

A:$1,900 budget

Hi PYGMUS. I'm assuming your budget excludes the cost of a monitor and peripherals such as mouse, keyboard and speakers.

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz - $299.99
ASUS Rampage III Formula LGA 1366 Intel X58 - $299.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 - $139.99
Seasonic SS-850HT 850W Power Supply - $119.99
2x MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB - $439.98
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB - $74.99
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black Steel ATX Full Tower - $139.99

Total - $1,514.92

With the remaining cash you could get yourself a good aftermarket CPU HSF and other components of your choice and requirement. You could look towards getting a Blu Ray Drive or SSD if you're interested.
 

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I just built a new gaming rig, and plan on redesignating my older machine as a home server.

The rig I just built contains:

Athlon II X3 440 (Rana)
MSI 870A-G54 Military Class mainboard
OCZ Fatality 550w psu
Zalman CNPS9900 NT cpu cooler
4GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 RAM
1x 800GB WD Caviar Green
and is all wrapped up in a CoolerMaster Cosmos S

The MSI Mainboard has an "EZ Overclocking" Console that allows me to underclock it for better cooling, or Overclock it up to 7% (with the preset settings). I can also manually overclock it, though while I would like to believe I am advanced enough to do this without damaging my system, I simply am not.

I am also aware that the 440 Rana may have an unlockable 4th core, though I have been unsuccessful in all my attempts to unlock it. I haven't tried changing voltages to the cores to try stabilizing the processor as of yet.

My question is- Has anyone built a system with this MB/CPU combination, and if so, is there anyone that has been successful in unlocking the 4th core? How did you do it? Would you be willing to post voltages, clock speeds, etc?

This is the first machine I have attempted to overclock, so if anyone can help me with this I would appreciate it.

(I didn't include a graphics card in the specs because I haven't purchased one yet. I'm currently using an old Nvidia 9600gso as a stand-in)
 

A:New budget gaming rig

There's a reason the 4th core is locked, it was tested and concluded defective after production. Don't cause yourself more problems than solutions.
 

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I just finished setting up my 2006-2007 budget. When I call-up a Profit & Loss Report or a Budget Analysis Report there are expense and income items in these reports that are NOT included in my budget. How do I rid myself of these items. They have already been de-activated in my Chart of Accounts. Thanks in advance for your help.
 

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i need to buy a laptop and l am hoping to spend about $600 , should l go for the dell brand or the hp brand, which is more durable?? particularly which type. Morever l am typically looking for more of an entertainment laptop
 

A:Laptop: what to get on a $600 budget?

Really its User preference
There's a laptop made for everyone

I prefer Dell, but your choice
 

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This is what I'm running right now. At this current time, I would like my computer to at least be able to not lag or slow down while in raids in the game World of Warcraft. This is where my computer is definitely lacking.

Motherboard Model: Asus Puffer
Motherboard Chipset: Intel 915P (Grantsdale-P) + ICH6

Processor: Intel Pentium 4 520 @ 2800.0 MHz

Memory: 3x 1024 MB PC3200 DDR-SDRAM

Video Adapter: ATI Radeon X700 Pro (RV410)
Video Memory: 256 MB GDDR3 SDRAM

Monitor: HP F1703 Flatscreen

Drives: Seagate ST3160021A
Drive Size: 160 GB

Audio: Intel 82801FB ICH6- High Definition Audio
Creative SB0310 Audigy LS Sound Card

This is what I have in my computer currently according to HWINFO32. If there's anything else that you need to know, please let me know.

I would like to upgrade my computer if possible, or if I'm able to replace components as I go, in efforts to replace everything in the end, in a budgetly manner if that makes sense.

@red1776, would using any of the components that you listed in your budget build work for replacing here and there with what I have?

Thanks for any and all the help guys.
 

A:Help with budget build

is this it?
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c00208497

I would recommend replacing just about everything.
Budget?
 

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Howdy!

Currently I'm running a Nvidia 6800 on a dell XPS 400 (Making my own next time) with 1 meg RAM and a Pentium D 3Ghz.

I know I need another 1G in RAM, and I was thinking of updating to a Nvidia 8600 card.

I'm on a rather limited budget, and could use some suggestions! Note none of my stuff is OC'd. I'm new to tweaking, don't know how, and cant afford to replace toasted parts just yet.

Do I need a new processor/mobo? (AKA: Scrap and salvage the unit I have into a new box?)
Is the 6800 crap, or am I not running it right?
Whats the consensus on the new 8600's?

Thanks in advance!
 

A:Upgrades on a budget...

Get a new system. You will need a new power supply to add the 8600 card.
You will get little benefit, and substantial risk, if you overclock that board.
The 6800 is not crap. But it is not a gamer video card either.
 

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I am doing a budget build for a client for his small business. His budget was 600.00 for the pc with the OS supplied by him, my labor will be negotiated.

This is what I have for him, nothing major mainly invoices, quicken, etc...

https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.asp?ID=6854347

Let me know if you see any issues before I place the order.

Thanks yall
 

A:Doing a budget build

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Hi, I'm new here and would like to start of by saying thanks for this helpful forum

When it comes to computing I'm far from a expert so I though what better place to learn and get advice, hope all are having a fine day.

If someone could give some help or point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. I want to buy a laptop powerful enough to run programs such as Cubase 8 or pro tools and to do other things like video editing. Firstly I need a laptop and I can only stretch to 450 pounds, I have been looking all over and its mind boggling, I want to make sure that I get the right laptop and don't waste my money.

Would a laptop with core i5 be powerful enough to run such programs? The laptops that fit my budget seem to have i5 with around 8gb RAM.

here is a link to a laptop I have fund on ebay. (please forgive me if lining isn't allowed)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221759386420?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Does that seem like fair value? and is it powerful enough for my needs?
Also is there a risk with buying a refurbished laptop from ebay?

Thanks for any help
 

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Hi, I've got an old Dell Optiplex 780 SFF PC sitting around. I was wondering if I installed a GT 1030 2GB Low Profile, Will I be able able to run modern games at 1080p at Low to maybe even High depending on the game? Some games I'm looking at playing is Rocket League, Overwatch, PUBG, BF1 & H1Z1: KOTK, Would it maybe be worth it spending extra on buying a Q6600, instead of the E8400? How would the performance differ if I did so? & Is the GT 1030 and Q6600 compatible on that motherboard? I've tried looking everywhere on the internet but I seem to be struggling, Thank you to anyone who helps.
 

A:Budget PC Build

No. Not going to happen. That Chipset is almost 9 years old. You are NOT going to be able to play those games with that E8400 Or even the Q6600. Those CPU's are way outdated, and they would have trouble even running the GT 1030 because it would be a massive bottleneck.

EDIT: You are essentially trying to run a 6 month old graphics card with the processing power of a 8 year old computer. Not a good combination...
 

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Hello, I am wondering what a good CPU would be for an AM3 setup. I would like a fairly cheap one around 40-60 but one that has potential to be unlocked and maybe overclocked as well. :S (not sure if that is a good idea with an unlocked CPU)

Any way this is the motherboard and RAM I will be buy with the CPU

Motherboard - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/174597
RAM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159919

Thanks, Jack-O-Bytes`
 

A:Solved: What Is Best Budget AM3 CPU

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Hey guys.I posted on here awhile ago about doing a cheap upgrade to my pc.Well I ended up having car troubles and couldnt get around to it.Finally I have the money/time now to do a couple things and I am once again looking for help/confirmation from people who actually have an idea what they are doing lol..anyways I have a Pentium e5400 I dont dare to clock on a GA-G31M-ES2L motherboard with a crappy radeon hd 4350 gpu.I'm strictly looking for gpu/CPU upgrades for now(im also adding 1gb ram,currently on 3gb).My current thoughts are a R7 250 or 240 gpu and Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8500 3.16GHz with the added 1gb ram.This is looking to run me about 200$ total.I'm wondering if anyone can tell me if this will be a decent budget set up or is there a better way for me to spend my 200$? I'm looking to get beamng drive to a decent frame rate(15-20 now) and possibly run some newer games (2010+) on low settings with stable frame rates.Any suggestions/criticisms on this future build are greatly appreciated as im new to this and f****** clueless,I basically pulled at straws when choosing these components.Thanks

A:Budget gaming again

The CPU is a vintage model - but probably optimal for your socket.. Can you even find a new one. Here is a refurbished one:

Refurbished: Intel E8500 Wolfdale Dual-Core 3.167GHz LGA 775 65W Desktop Processor AT80570PJ0876M - Newegg.com

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For too long I've wanted a gaming PC so I've finally found a cheap PC that seems okay to start with but i want to know what sort of games it will run and/or its even worth getting. And by the way building a PC isn't an option because as easy as people say it is, i have no idea what I'm doing

AMD 4.1Ghz 8gb Ram 1tb HDD FTS Gaming PC Desktop Computer Galaxy 3 HDMI

A:I want to get into PC gaming but on a budget.

It's a dual core CPU, no dedicated GPU and no OS. I would look for something with at least 4 core CPU, that has a dedicated GPU and with an OS installed. That price range will be around $400 to $500 (USD). For $500 USD, you could build a very good PC for just about any computing task.

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Hi, i'm new to forum and i need some help upgrading my rig.
My current rig is
AMD A4-5300
8GB RAM
GT 730

I usually only play Dota 2 and CSGO on that rig so i'm pretty fine with it for 2 years.

My budget is $350 at max, because i saved $50 for the Steam Summer Sale
The game that i'm planning to play is Overwatch and Playerunknown's Battleground

Any help will be appreciated and thanks for any reply
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

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ive got 160 to spend on a video card. Im gonna list all the cards that are $160 that i can buy and could you guys please tell which one is the best?

http://www.arc.com.au/?VIDSAPXHD260XT3

http://www.arc.com.au/?VIDGANX86GT512

http://www.arc.com.au/?VIDGAX66GT128

http://www.arc.com.au/?VIDLTPX8600GT


Thanks!
 

A:Videocard on a $160 budget

I will go on that one: http://www.arc.com.au/?VIDLTPX8600GT
 

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I want to start budgeting my money monthly.

Is there a good program to help me with this?
 

A:Budget Software!!!

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i am saving up like 500 bucks for a custom build pc that can multitask and be able to play light games like 18 WOS
so here are the parts i am looking foward to.

website: newegg.com

asus cd/dvd burner :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&cm_re=asus_cd-_-27-135-204-_-Product

rosewill challenger computer case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...47153&cm_re=challenger-_-11-147-153-_-Product

amd athlon II x3 3.0ghz triple core: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103843

samsung spinpoint f3 :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...181&cm_re=spinpoint_f3-_-22-152-181-_-Product

gskill 4gb (2x2) drr3 pc3 10600:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...1179&cm_re=g.skill_4gb-_-20-231-179-_-Product

asus M4A785TD-V EVO motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398&cm_re=v_evo-_-13-131-398-_-Product

Rosewill Green Series RG630-S12 630W psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...200&cm_re=rosewill_psu-_-17-182-200-_-Product

so this is the parts i am intrested in so let me know if its a good build for a 500 $ budget thanks,
 

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Hi im currently in the process of building a PC that will replace my old PC . this computer will be used for gaming and watching films.
Budget around 700
( I have a keyboard/mouse and a monitor )
at the moment I have come up with

Procesor:
i5 3570k 3.4GHz
http://www.ebuyer.com/349029-intel-...b-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80637i53570k

Motherboard:
gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H
http://www.ebuyer.com/351598-gigaby...mi-8-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-ga-z77-d3h

DVD:
samsung X22 DVD
http://www.ebuyer.com/342873-samsung-sh-222bb-sata-dvd-write-optical-drive-oem-sh-222bb-bebe

Case:
Coolermaster 912 plus
http://www.ebuyer.com/239757-coolermaster-haf-912-plus-case-rc-912p-kkn1

RAM:
8GB G skill DDR3 1600MHz
http://www.ebuyer.com/264750-g-skill-8gb-ddr3-1600mhz-ripjawsx-memory-f3-12800cl9d-8gbxl

CPU Cooler:
akasa K32
http://www.ebuyer.com/290965-akasa-k32-intel-775-1155-1156-processor-cooler-ak-cc7117ep01

GPU:
saphire HD 7850 2GB
http://www.ebuyer.com/390921-sapphi...-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-11200-14-20g

PSU
corsair TXM 650w
http://www.ebuyer.com/279547-corsair-txm-650w-modular-psu-cp-9020002-uk

HDD:
seagate 500GB
http://www.ebuyer.com/272944-seagate-500gb-barracuda-internal-hard-drive-st500dm002

I will appreciate any help that I can get
 

A:PC build, £700 budget

Overall a decent choice of components. I'm not a fan of Akasa products at all, this CM Hyper 212 Evo has great performance for the price.

Not sure how much budget you have left but I'd try to work an SSD into the build, when it comes to general PC usage it will be the most noticeable difference from your old PC. 128GB drives are really cheap nowadays. If you need to save some money then I'd say reuse your old hard drive as a storage drive, 40 for 500GB isn't great value anyway.

The 3570K is 14 cheaper on Amazon btw.
 

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This is my first time building a computer, and I'm trying to build a budget gaming computer for about $400- $450. I don't play super intense games, but I do play Spore and Sims and edit videos and use Photoshop, so the graphics quality is important. This is the build I'm looking at right now:

case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119047
motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157198
CPU: AMD Athlon II 453 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103724
video card: Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT 512MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...nvidia_geforce_9600_gt-_-14-130-360-_-Product
power supply: Thermaltake 500W PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153113
RAM: 2GB DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211450
hard drive: Seagate 500GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148612

I plan on reusing the DVD +-RW/ CD-ROM drive from my old computer, if that'll work, and using my old hard drive as the slave drive. The OS will be Windows 7.

Will this configuration work, and do you have any suggestions or improvements for it? Thanks!
 

A:budget gaming pc around $400

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Hi, I've got an old Dell Optiplex 780 SFF PC sitting around. I was wondering if I installed a GT 1030 2GB Low Profile, Will I be able able to run modern games at 1080p at Low to maybe even High depending on the game? Some games I'm looking at playing is Rocket League, Overwatch, PUBG, BF1 & H1Z1: KOTK, Would it maybe be worth it spending extra on buying a Q6600, instead of the E8400? How would the performance differ if I did so? & Is the GT 1030 and Q6600 compatible on that motherboard? I've tried looking everywhere on the internet but I seem to be struggling, Thank you to anyone who helps
 

A:PC Budget Build

No. Not going to happen. That Chipset is almost 9 years old. You are NOT going to be able to play those games with that E8400 Or even the Q6600. Those CPU's are way outdated, and they would have trouble even running the GT 1030 because it would be a massive bottleneck.

EDIT: You are essentially trying to run a 6 month old graphics card with the processing power of a 8 year old computer. Not a good combination...
 

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Hi I'm new to the forum and I'd like some help please. I just bought a budget PC and would like to know where to look to upgrade it or if that was even possible.

Its an eMachines E4082 desktop running XP.

Intel Pentium D 820 (Each at 2.80ghz)
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 with available PCI Express slot (Pretty sure this is an onboard card)
512 MB DDR2 RAM

Basically what I would like to find out is if I can upgrade this machine and the best places to look. How do I find out if graphics cards will be compatible? Will any DDR2 RAM work with it? Really am a newbie with PC's when it comes to the hardware side but I would like to play a few older PC games on the machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

A:Budget PC gaming

Welcome to Tech Spot and please read through this.

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache...ating+system+problem&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=ca
 

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I do not live in the US so rebate would not apply to me, so I am asking which of these laptops i found at tigerdirect.com would be the best. I am just playing games that do not really need that much, (world of warcraft, need for speed carbon and counter strike). thanks for any information given.
It is of urgency sorry my dad says i have to tell him today. Thing is he only told me today to choose lol
 

A:Trying to work with a budget of under $580.

I have moved your thread to the correct forum and deleted your other thread for this subject.

Regards Howard
 

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I have to get a new PC(excluding GPU and PSU)

I'm thinking of these items. Please help me choose what's better:

MB: http://www.amazon.com/M5A99FX-PRO-R2-0-990FX-Motherboard/dp/B008B6ONXK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370722343&sr=8-1&keywords=M5A99FX+PRO+R2.0

CPU: Amazon.com: AMD FX-8350 FX-Series Eight-Core Processor Edition, Black AM3+ FD8350FRHKBOX: Computers & Accessories

RAM: Amazon.com: Kingston HyperX Beast 16 GB Kit (2x8 GB) 2400MHz DDR3 PC3-19200 Non-ECC CL11 DIMM XMP Desktop Memory KHX24C11T3K2/16X: Computers & Accessories

Cooler: Amazon.com: Cooler Master Seidon 120M Liquid CPU Water Cooling System with Copper Heatsink and 120mm Radiator - 1 Fan: Electronics

HD: Amazon.com: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Desktop Hard Drive ST310005N1A1AS-RK-Retail Kit: Computers & Accessories

Please provide your inputs.

A:Building PC--500-600$ budget

Personally, I wouldn`t buy anything off Amazon.

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Does the TS budget box seem like a not so good value?
I mean, you can get a phenom II quad core 3.2 GHz for 130ish. Throw that on a mobo that has some usable integrated graphics (until you are able to add a decent graphics card) with 4 or 8 GB of ram, and a hard drive of choice, and a cheap yet solid case, and finally a DVD drive and you are probably around 450-500ish.

I dont know, it just seems like using the A8 for anything but laptops or micro (or other small factor) ATX is pointless.
Just my thoughts.
 

A:Is it just me or does the TS Budget Box seem like a poor value?

they are pretty much designed for graphic card replacements (not anywhere near yet though) and very low power use so yes good for laptops but not for desktops at the moment
 

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first of, dont buy anyting from www.nt-micro.com . punks sent me wrong motherboard and 3 weeks later i'm still trying to get them to send me an RMA to return it. the one they sent me actually costs 115$ and i spent 220$ on the purchase. they are about to get a call from my lawyer. or my best friend pretending to be one!

anyhow i was trying to purchase the abit fatal1ty an8, not the SLI version. i had the money to spend and i figured i wouldnt need to upgrade it for a while.

the rest of the equipent i bought is as follows:
amd64 3000+ Rev E (Venice?)
2 gigs of Corsair XMS serries pc3200 cas 2 RAM
SATA 80 Gig HD
x700 ATI Radeon pro 256 mb pci-express
550W psu

anyhow i was wondering what motherboards everyone would recommend? and even if i should still with my abit an8 fatal1ty choice. not interested in any SLI boards either kind like ATI.

so if everyone could make some recommendations that'd be great and list a few reasons as why.

thanks in advance. :bounce:
 

A:Looking for new motherboard, 220$ budget!

Check Newegg.com. They have good prices and most products have customer reviews.
 

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Hi

I need a good quality monitor for my parents pc. Something that does at least 85hz at 1024x768. Price of 90-100. Any suggestions?

BenQ Value V772 seems ok for 86inc vat, but not to sure about the company...

how bout Hansol? the 730E seems ok and is 5 more....

TIA

Raz
 

A:Budget Monitor

if im not mistaken, dells are rebranded benqs. i've heard problems about the p992 with not being magnetically shielded and that, so keep all speakers 1m away. never heard anything bad (or good) about hansol
 

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I only have about $80 bucks US to spend on a vid card for some casual gaming. I was thinking about a FX5200 with 128 mb ram. What are your guys' sugestions on what to buy?
 

A:budget gfx card

Stay away from the 5200. It'll just dissappoint you.

I'd recommend looking for a cheap GeForce4 Ti 4200. You might be able to find one under $80 now.
 

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