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Post here or Win8? Removing Win8 Replacing w/ Win7 Pro Mouse Wont Work During Install

Q: Post here or Win8? Removing Win8 Replacing w/ Win7 Pro Mouse Wont Work During Install

I just purchased an HP Pavilion 20 All-In-One desktop computer that unfortunately had Windows 8 on it - I needed a computer immediately and no one in town had an all in one with 7 pro. I purchased Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit OEM software (from reputable store; computer is 64bit) and thought it would be an easy install - insert disk, follow directions. It acts as if it's installing windows 7, but when it gets to the screen which shows the language, time and - forgot the last drop down choice, I don't have use of the mouse or keyboard. I can't tab, use arrow keys, or anything. I have spent hours searching online before bothering anyone for free advice, but now I'm looking for free advice. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Also, do I post this in Windows 7 Pro or 8 ?

Let me add that this All In One does not have the touch screen monitor.

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Preferred Solution: Post here or Win8? Removing Win8 Replacing w/ Win7 Pro Mouse Wont Work During Install

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I apologize if this thread is misplaced.

I have a Lenovo K450 with Win8 pre-installed.

I have a new copy of Win7 I purchased from Microsoft a few years back that I would like to install, but my PC seems to be locked to Win8.

I can disable the secure boot in BIOS, and install WIN7, but windows update will not function with secure boot disabled.

Can I circumvent this entirely by replacing the motherboard?

Thank You!

A:Replacing Win8 with Win7

I can disable the secure boot in BIOS, and install WIN7, but windows update will not function with secure boot disabled.

I'm not sue how you came to that conclusion but since your k450 does show Win 7 drivers available, a clean install of Win 7 should be quite easy with a retail disc.

Can I circumvent this entirely by replacing the motherboard?

Any attempts to do such a thing would be extremely costly and unwarranted IMHO. My advice would be to try and upgrade to Windows 8.1 (free via Windows Store) and tolerate the small learning curve that would be associated with the upgrade.

However, if you decide to revert to Windows 7, I see no issues in doing so (as previously stated). Good luck.

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I currently have Win7 & Win8 preview in separate partitions on the same machine. I am trying to figure out the best way to install win8 pro on my system and keep my current dual boot setup with Win 7 intact and stay legal.

So....I have a 3 licence family pack of windows 7 of which I have used only 1 licence. Is there some way I can use one of the remaining win7 licences to upgrade win8pro over top of the Win8 preview and keep my current dual boot win7/win8 setup(legally) and without messing up my current Win7 installation (or Win 8 preview installation for that matter)? Is there any advantage in getting the OEM version instead?

A:Question- upgrading win7HP/win8 preview dual boot to win7/win8 pro

If I understand it correctly; Anyone dual booting a legit version of Window Vista, XP or Win7 and Win8 RP can use the upgrade version of Win8 to do a clean install over the Win8 RP version.

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Got new Dell Inspiron 17R 5737 w/win 8.1 and struggled for 2 months to get used to it without success so deleted in and reformatted hard drive. Installed win 7 ultimate x64. Updated all drives available from Dell site and also from 3rd party site. Everything is working EXCEPT that every time I plug an external device requiring a COM port, it simply does not work. I tried the USB2 and USB3 ports. The Wireless adapter is using COM 3-4-5-6 according to DEVICE MANAGER, and the indication I get when plugging in a USB cable while monitoring the DEVICE MANAGER, is 3 or 4 triangles with "!" in the center. Each of them displays a message under OTHER DEVICES: "AUDIO DEVICE ON USB BUS"; "ENHANCED COM PORT"; "STANDARD COM PORT"... when I open them I get the message "The drivers for this device are not installed (code 28). When I try to update or install a driver, it indicates that there are none available. I tried to connect the external device (a Yaesu FTdx3000 amateur radio transceiver with USB output) to each port with the same results. I do not have any other external device requiring a com port to see if different results would occur. However, I have confirmed that the radio communicates correctly using the USB2 port of my old Toshiba Quasimo using the same operating system. So the fault does not seem to be the cable or the radio, but, something in the Dell. HELP!

A:No Com port access on Dell Inspiron 17R after replacing win8 with win7

When you 'downgraded' from Win8.1 to Win7 did you check for Win7-compatible drivers at hhttp://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04?c=&l=&s=bsd? You'll need the Service Tag number, a label on the bottom of the computer or inside the battery compartment.

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Hopefully my explanation of this problem is not too confusing, this my first post.

My system is a multi-boot for Win7, Win8.1 & XP. I boot into Win7 most of the time. The multi-boot is controlled via EasyBCD in Win7. My data drive is a separate disk - F. I have been running this configuration for over a year without any major problems.

The system is an older Dell-XPS Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 A 2.66GHz with 8Gb memory
System drive - 1Tb with four partitions
Data drive - 1 Tb one partition

Recently I booted into Win8.1 after a few weeks of using only Win7. The data drive F: was not available. It does not show up in Disk Management and under Device Manager it shows as not connected to the system when the Unavailable Devices are displayed.

Booting back to Win7, the data drive is available, no problems with it. There are not any errors in the event/system logs in Win8.1 or Win7 related to the data drive F.

One possible cause might be that the motherboard battery was replaced about a week ago. I had to go in the BIOS and make changes for problems encountered when Win7 was booted. Unfortunately, I didn't boot Win8.1 to see if it had any problems. I've looked at the BIOS, but don't see anything that might cause this problem.

The config for the EasyBCD is below for boot into Win7
There are a total of 4 entries listed in the bootloader.

Default: Microsoft Windows 7
Timeout: 30 seconds
Boot Drive: C:\

Entry #1
Name: Windows 8.1
BCD ID: {3081a5c6-c566-11e3-808b-85773c60a873... Read more

A:Multi Boot-Win7 & Win8.1 - Data Drive not seen in Win8.1

First off, why so many entries in BCD ?

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Hello Guru Members

I work for a small charity organisation for the elderly, (not trying to pluck heart strings), and the situation is that we were granted 7 new computers, these computers have Windows 8.1, and because we have an existing domain network we actually need to have Windows 8.1 Professional installed.

So prior to knowing that Windows 8.1 could not connect to our network, I had already started getting all the Windows updates, and cleaning the PC's of all the Lenovo add-on's software.

Once I realised that it was not Windows 8.1 Pro on the PC's but only Windows 8.1, being a charity we were able to purchase from the Microsoft Volume Licensing Centre 7 Windows 8.1 Professional licences.

I tried to use the VLC licence through the 'Windows Add-on's feature in Windows 8.1 , but a Volume Licence key is not accepted, and i have also been told that I must download the Windows 8.1 Professional .ISO from the Volume Licensing Centre, and install this particular download version.

But my question is, when I do the installation from Windows 8.1 to Windows 8.1 pro, will it give me the option to do an upgrade installation, I worried as I don't want to lose all the previous windows updates, and Lenovo hardware driver files.

Or, is there a way to get the Volume Licence Key into the existing Windows 8.1 to unlock the Pro features, or even a clever way to trick the Windows installation.

Any members help would be really helpful.

kind regards
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A:Can i do an upgrade install from Win8.1 to Win8.1 Pro?, beggin members help thanks

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Wondering if anyone has done this? I am assuming settings would be lost and such. Can anyone confirm if the settings would be completely lost, or if they would be relocated to "Windows.old" folder?


A:installing 32-bit Win8 over 64-bit OS (Win7 or Win8)?

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Potential client running win8.0 (trying to avoid 8.1) Pavilion g6
Potential host runnin Win7 pro (fully updated) and the same desktop is the host of the wifi I'm using.

So far working:
-Remote desktop from win8 into win7 (wireless).
-Folder sharing both ways (no homegroup, but direct sharing) (wireless).
** Allthough, while uploading from Win7 into Win8 it occassionally looses connection, failing upload. However downloading same files from Win8 using same network works flawless. Also again using win7 sometimes doesn't find folders until using premade shortcuts. Maybe relevant, or not.

While trying to use Remote Desktop from Win7 desktop into Win8 Pavilion laptop I get that "...one of these reasons" error.

This while rightclicking on the win8 pc in the win7 view of the network (choosing remote desktop option), so I know that the name is spelled right, it's in the network!!!

So far tried:
Setting up win8 to receive remote desktop as given here in these forums, allthough while on
SystemProperties-->Remote-->Advanced I do NOT get the remote desktop menu view, only Remote Assistant settings with hour setup and such.

Tried to connect:
-Both firewalls down, also client Avast down.
-From the network with right mouse click.
-Manually inputting the computer name into Remote Desktop

Hope there is enough to give something fresh to try.
Ty for helps

PS. These PC's are not on the same WIFI, only same network. I Don't know how to get the network host into it... Read more

A:Remote Desktop into win8 from win7 does not work

Is the Win 8 computer running Win 8 Pro? If it isn't running Pro then it can only act as a client not a host. You do mention that the other computer is running Win 7 Pro but don't say for the Win 8 computer.

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Hi there,
I've been using Win7 Ultimate 64x for sometime now and i have all my software Installed on it.
I recently bought a copy of Win8 and I've been trying not to install it now because i haven't studied a lot of things about it it yet and i need to keep my PC in its current state because of work, but i cant wait anymore..
So here are the FAQs if i may..
1- Can I install Win8 and keep my old copy of Win7?
2- Will software such as Adobe Photoshop be installed on Win8?
3- Is it as good of a System as Win7?
Thanks in advance

A:Can I install Win8 and keep using Win7?

Hello Sony, and welcome to Eight Forums.

Only if you purchased a system builder copy of Windows 8.

If you purchased an upgrade copy of Windows 8, then by the EULA you must uninstall the OS you used to qualify for the upgrade. Your Windows 7.


Windows 8 EULA

What about upgrading the software?
The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may not continue to use it or transfer it in any way. This agreement governs your rights to use the upgrade software and replaces the agreement for the software from which you upgraded. After you complete your upgrade, additional software will be required to playback or record certain types of media, including DVDs.

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I'd like to install win 8.1 on a different hard drive along with my current win 7. Can I simply mount the win8.1 iso (daemon-tools) and install it from win7, or do I have to burn a dvd first?

A:Install win8.1 from win7

Hello zoharl3.
Have a look through the information in this tutorial at the link below for some additional ideas and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.
Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista

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So after building a new computer, i had the problem of win8 drivers with the new mobo... So i bought a new
win7 install disk(it was cheaper and i want to try 7) And now when i try to install the win7 with the disc, it tells me that the disk has a mbr partition table and that windows can only be installed to gbt and edi or something.(ask for details if needed) and i have no idea how do i make that hard drive a gbt hard drive instead of mbr. So im asking for help here. So i can't access windows but i can access my linux (i have the dualboot) So any of you know how to format and make a gbt instead of mbr with like a usb stick? I think there is a way but im asking here just to be sure. Also if someone could tell me that why is this error happening to me because i had win8 running on that hard drive. And before that i had windows vista. thanks!

A:Dualboot and trying to install win7 over win8 MBR - GPT

Im sorry for my bad english but i hope you can understand(i wrote that in a bit of hurry)

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Just in case it becomes necessary if Win10 is a bust is it possible to install Win 7 on top of Win 8.1 and get some piece of mind.


A:Win7 install on a Win8 Machine

You will have to wipe the drive before installing.

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I'm a new Windows 8 user and am running the Classic Shell since I don't like the Metro interface. When I opened a .pdf file, it opened via Win8's pdf reader. Aside from being bad (being nice), when I close Win8's pdf reader I'm back in the Metro interface which I hate.

So I installed Adobe reader. During the download, it asked for the OS version with Win8 and Win7 as choices. I chose Win7 and installed Adobe reader 11.0. It's working fine so far and mainly, when I close the reader, I'm back in the desktop where I want to be.


1. if I had selected Win8 as the OS, would Adobe Reader have installed as a Win8 app and acted like the Win8 pdf reader and put me in Metro when I closed it?

2. In the future, should I always chose Win7 as the OS for software downloads if I want to always stay in the desktop mode running Classic Shell?


A:Should I install Win7 or Win8 programs?

Originally Posted by skyzoomer


1. if I had selected Win8 as the OS, would Adobe Reader have installed as a Win8 app and acted like the Win8 pdf reader and put me in Metro when I closed it?

2. In the future, should I always chose Win7 as the OS for software downloads if I want to always stay in the desktop mode running Classic Shell?


I don't think there's a universal answer to your question. If a software vendor says, "Here's a Windows 8 version of our program" it might mean a Metro based program or it might mean they've certified it to work in Windows 8 as a desktop app. Unless they're explicit about which, it's hard to tell. Or you just have to try it. I haven't tried the Adobe Acrobat Reader for Windows 8, so I'm not sure which side they fall on. It's free, so you could try it and, if it's Metro, just uninstall it if you don't like it.

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Paid $39.99 to upgrade my Win7 Home Premium, burned it to disk.

For some strange reason, the install is Win7.

If it's a factor, have a dual boot with Ubantu.

Any ideas of why this is happening?

A:Why is my Win8 upgrade saying it's a Win7 install?

When dual booting with Linux, all sorts of oddball thinks can happen to Windows.

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Hi All,

I've searched around the internet (and these forums) for this query but haven't had any luck in finding a solution.

My system is currently configured with Windows 7 Pro and Win XP Pro, in a dual boot configuration. They are on separate partitions on a single SSD.

I bought Windows 8 a while back but haven't installed it yet, as I need to keep my dual boot configuration (need XP). I'd ideally like to install 8 over 7 (am happy doing a complete wipe of 7, but an upgrade would be cool too).

I used EasyBCD to make my current dual boot configuration with Win7/XP, however it's been years since I did the install so don't really recall what steps I took (however I'm sure I could find them somewhere).

My question is, what steps would I need to take to install 8 over 7 and keep the dual boot w/ XP? I think I'd just need to completely wipe 7 (my media / documents / etc. are on separate hds), and install 8 on that newly blank partition. Then I would use EasyBCD to configure the boot menu to recognize the existing XP installation and restore the dual boot setup.

Would I be correct in my thinking here? Any potential hassles that I'll run into?

Thanks much,

A:Have Win7/XP Dual boot, want to install Win8 over 7

Welcome to EightForums.

If your Windows 7 install is on Partition 1 & Win XP is on Partition 2, if you wipe the Windows 7 partition, the Win XP boot files will also be wiped.

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Dear All,
Could everyone can help me install win7 64bit on Dell XPS L322X with Original win8 64bit. I don't know how to install but I already format all HDD.
it is urgent with me know. 
Please help me 
thank you

A:Install Win7 on L322X with original win8

You can click the links below for information installing Windows 7 on your computer. Before booting to the Windows disk/usb you will need to set the UEFI  setting first. Below is information to help.
Secure Boot
Secure Boot feature can be enabled or disabled in system setup.

The Boot List Option should be set to UEFI to enable Secure Boot.
By default, the Secure Boot is enabled in the system setup. 
Launch System Setup and go to Boot tab.
Select Secure Boot and press <Enter> to enable/disable it.
If you set the Load Legacy Option Rom to Disabled, the legacy boot options will no longer be available under the Boot tab

Windows 7 Support Options
Dell XPS 13 L322X Drivers, Downloads and Manuals
Driver Help and  Install Order
After a clean installation of the Microsoft® Windows 7/Windows 8 operating system, you must install the following drivers / software packages:

Display adapters
IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers
Imaging devices
Mice and other pointing devices
Network adapters
Chipset (System Devices)
Sound, video and game controllers
Universal Serial Bus controllers

You must install the Chipset driver first followed by the other system drivers. Reboot the system between installations.

NOTE: The XPS L322X does not have an internal optical drive. You will need to use an external optical drive to reinstall the operating system. If technical support agents dispatch an external optical drive for OS reinstall, customer... Read more

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Hello Everyone,
I'm here with a serious problem, i have a Laptop Asus X55M1 with windows 8.1 but i hate win8 and i want to install win7. I've tried everything and i can't format it.
I have a USB Bootable Flash Drive (Pen) with win7 32 and 64 bits, i use it to format every computers and always worked. Now when i put the flash drive in the Laptop and go to Boot Priority and select the Flash Drive, its supposed to appear the win7 stuff but instead show win8 logo and keep running. Instead of a Flash Drive i got a DVD with win7 and in boot priority don't show annything about cd/dvd.
So i had to look some tutorials about that problem and i found some interesting post like creating a UEFI Bootable USB flash drive. But now he load the files and when is going to appear the win7 logo he glitch and on the top shows a red line. I download alots of Win7 64 bits and keep showing the same.

My Laptop:

Annyone can help me??


A:I can't install win7 on my asus laptop with win8.1!!!

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If you have an OEM PC that came with Windows 8 64-bit preinstalled and you want to install Windows 7 64-bit, then you must disable Secure Boot, because Secure Boot is not compatible with Windows 7. But if Windows 7 installation does not succeed in UEFI Boot Mode, try installing Windows 7 in Legacy BIOS Boot Mode, but then you will need to delete all partitions.

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I am looking to install Win7 Ultimate on my ASUS system and have 2 drives. I need win7 for work and really dont like 8 anyway. 8 was preinstalled. As you can tell from the screenshot i have a Virtual Clone drive (H: ) of the win7 iso. The BIOS has UEFI. Basically wanting to dual boot. I have been looking at the 7 & 8 forums trying to find a thread with this kind of install and no luck. What is the correct way to do this?

A:How do i install Win7 on a Preinstalled Win8 laptop?

Here is a great tutorial that can help you out for this: Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7 *edit* if you need to dual boot both 7 and 8, that may be a different story *SEE POST BELOW*

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Just finished downloading - what a bummer...WTF? i cant be the only one getting this error... my cpu is i5 3.3ghz and win7 is flying on it...

hm screenshot attachment didnt work. when i try to install win8 i get error that my CPU is lower than 1ghz and setup fails... my cpu is i5 3.3ghz...

A:CPU error - win8 wont install wtf?

Which processor are you using? And or Intel? I would check BIOS settings and turn off any type of throttling/power saving mode. Especially if A.m.d.
A way to tell is use a CPU I.d. like program. Changing speeds below 1g would do this and prevent installation.

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What's better, upgrade a Win8 to Win8.1 or purchase Win8.1 ?


A:Win8 Upgrade or Win8.1 New Install

Upgrade the Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 is FREE.

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Hi all,
We have to reinstall Windows 8.1 several times a week, and on older PC's we find ourselves installing Win8 (original version), then doing tons of updates before getting to the stage where we can download and install Windows 8.1.  We have tried using the 8.1 disk, however it doesn't pickup the Win 8 licence number embedded in the laptop or rejects the the original Win8 OEM licence number.
This is costing us loads of time and downloads.
Does anyone know a work-around for this?

A:How To Install Win8.1 Without First Installing Win8

Hi Richard I guess this article on HowToGeek should help you with your issue.http://www.howtogeek.com/187525/how-to-perform-a-clean-install-of-windows-8.1-with-a-windows-8-key/You would have to test it on one or two computers however to see if it works for you.

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Looking to update drivers to be able to install Win10.  Have a complete install disc but install fails at 87% 2nd boot with no restart during migrate_cata operation

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I am dualbooting Win8 and Win7, using one 500gb hard drive. Win7 has been my main OS, so all of my music, photos, etc. are stored there.

How can I access the user data from my Win7 install , from my Win8 install?

Everytime I try to go to it from Win8 ---- > My computer it says that I don't have permission to access the files for that user,then attempts to do so for some random period of time, and in the end nothing happens.

A:Accessing Win7 use data and files from Win8 install on HD

I have noticed for quite awhile that your post has had no replies. It doesn't seem like your problem should be too hard to solve--but the lack of replies suggests that it is not that easy to solve. Anyway, I am having no luck in solving your problem via searches.

I don't want to say something like change the permissions because fooling with the permissions of bootable partitions labeled with drive letters might be problematic. I certainly don't suggest that you try to do so without knowing for sure what the consequences might be. I have some questions. Can you access the Win8 drive from your Win7 partition? Are both partitions labeled with drive letters in Computer? If yes, what happens when you double click the Win7 drive having started up to Win8 and vice versa? How have you been trying to access the Win7 partition from Win8. Does device manager show any issues with your hard drive from either boot?

I suggest that you don't do anything until one of the real experts here gives the OK. If you decide to take a risk, be sure your data files are well backed up.

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Original Post:

I've recently installed a dual boot, Windows 7 and Windows 8. The installation went fine but then after a very short time my Windows 8 Screen goes black. I had to press the power button to exit.

I've checked the Power settings and ensured the "Turn off display" was "never". I also updated my Video drivers thinking that might be the problem. Both to no avail. I've done a "Refresh" and a "Reset (which took 3 hrs). Again, all was fine for a short time, but while exploring the OS, again the black screen. Would anyone know what else I could try to fix this Windows 8 problem. Thanks so much.

I posted the above question about two months or so ago and received suggestions (thank you everyone) which I followed... re-formatting the hard drive during the new installation, trying generic video drivers and doing Resets and Refreshes. None of that worked and still doesn't. The installations do complete as before, but I don't have enough time to download new updates to perhaps correct whatever problem(s) there are before all goes black after a few minutes. As I stated before I have to hold down the power button to exit.

If this is a clue, once the screen goes black and I revert back to Window7, before loading, the File System on ALL drives, including C and the Windows 8 partition has to check for consistency before Windows 7 boots... Read more

A:Dual Boot Win7/8 - Win8 Goes To Black After Install

Hello leelord,

I see you took your own advice and started a unique thread with lots of detail in your lead-in post; however, my first question is "what the heck is all that?" and my second question is "where are the Win 7 and Win 8 installations located (specifically)?" Please understand that I may not be the primary person to help you unravel this mystery; however, I think I might be able to pull a bit more information out of you so it might entice the proper guru to offer a response to your issue.

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So I tried installing Windows 8 on my Novatech Laptop, having windows 7 installed on it previously. I deleted the 7 partition and installed 8. It booted, but hung right after booting into hdd. Then I decided I don't need 8 and tried to come back to 7. There where a couple of problems with creating partitions on my hdd (while using clean windows install disk), so i just formated it all (low level format using some hirens boot cd tool). After that i can create partitions from 7 installation disk, and install windows 7, even restart the laptop once during the installation, boot tino hdd and continue the installation. After installation is over the computer just keeps restarting and won't boot .

A:Win7 won't start after full installation (followed by Win8 install)

Where did you get WIn7 installer? Did you burn the DVD yourself? If it's been used successfully before does it now have scratches or smudges? If so try cleaning. If not try a new official ISO burned with the tool in Steps 1 and 2 of Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7.

Boot the installer, at first screen after booted press Shift + F10 to open a Command Line to run Diskpart Clean Command, then close Command Box, click Install Now to Clean Install Windows 7.

If this fails try entering Device Manager during install to disable any erroring device so install will complete: Device Manager - Access During Windows 7 Installation

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Hi all,

Not sure if this post should go in this forum do accept my apology if it's not supposed to be here.

Goal: run both windows 7 and windows 8.1 native from VHDX (currently only success with win8.1 on vhdx and win7 vhd)

I have a windows 8.1 installed in the system and rebooted into a command prompt, created a vhdx image, converted to GPT, and then install windows 7 on this vhdx (both with and without KB982018 integrated). The install went through (copying files etc) and it then rebooted itself and finish off the reset of the installation. After it rebooted it the boot menu is the old style black and white (which is fine), and choose win7 vhdx to finish off the installation. However an error comes up - An unexpected error has occurred.

Having no luck therefore instead of installing to a VHDX I now boot up with the win7SP1 USB and install onto a VHD instead. Everything went well and booted into windows 7 (expected). I then install KB980218 and then it rebooted itself, again everything is ok. I then booted back into windows 8, converted the windows 7 from VHD to VHDX and set the sector size to 4096 as per How to Convert a VHD File into VHDX. Boot entry has also been updated to vhdx instead of vhd.

I now try to boot to this new win7 vhdx, and instead of getting an unexpected error, it booted into a graphical screen and ask for repairing the window. (which means it's unsuccessful)

Therefore I do ask if anyone has successfully installed windows 7 onto a vhdx and boot from... Read more

A:Create vhdx in win8.1 environment and install win7 on it

If I were you, I would stick to the VHD if it runs smoother with that. I'm not sure about VHDX personally (I'll try looking into it if you really want to use VHDX), but really the best option would be VHD, unless you use other virtualization software, like VirtualBox, where you can choose VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image) which might run more fluently than other file types. If VHD runs best, just stick to that really, but I'll try looking into it if I can

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In a few days I will receive a Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon with Win8 installed. And separately I will receive an OEM Win7. Win7 is certainly what I intend to use, and I had originally thought I would wipe out Win8 and install Win7. But now I am wondering if I can somehow preserve Win8 for occasional use. (I would have ordered the machine with Win7 but this is a refurbished machine.)

Is there guidance on this anywhere? Some of the threads I've found seem to be particular to specific manufacturers. And some get into some very low level stuff. I would rather not have to understand UEFI. (I'm sure it would be interesting, I just have other things to do with my time.) And, although I do it sometimes, and will if I have to, I do not like diddling with BIOS settings.

I know that factory installed operating systems generally can't be moved to other machines. And I fear that the factory installed Win8 that I will receive may not even tolerate being installed, e.g., in a smaller partition or under something like VMware (another complication I'd like to avoid).

I'll be looking into VMware because I know it's a very flexible solution. But in this situation I value simplicity over flexibility.

Thanks, Bob

A:How to Install Win7 Along Side Factory Installed Win8?

Hi Bob, Well come to the forum, this tutorial will help you:Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista

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Think this is ok, but read what is probably scare tripe that MS was documenting Win8 upgrade machine info with Win8 upgrade and killing licenses for old o/s on that machine.

Have an older machine prebuilt with Win7 Home that I upgraded to Pro with Anytime. Saved image. Friend was having XP troubles, so I installed a legal XP license on the box & used it for a while. Then loaded 8.1 Preview. Now want to use Win8 upgrade (the cheap one from Jan) on the box. To me, that's an upgrade over XP. I'm thinking my Win7 license is still legit if I need it in the future.

A:Win7 oem license good if Win8 upgrade from XP install?

Quote: Originally Posted by dianedebuda

Think this is ok, but read what is probably scare tripe that MS was documenting Win8 upgrade machine info with Win8 upgrade and killing licenses for old o/s on that machine.

Have an older machine prebuilt with Win7 Home that I upgraded to Pro with Anytime. Saved image. Friend was having XP troubles, so I installed a legal XP license on the box & used it for a while. Then loaded 8.1 Preview. Now want to use Win8 upgrade (the cheap one from Jan) on the box. To me, that's an upgrade over XP. I'm thinking my Win7 license is still legit if I need it in the future.

Hiya there

Let me see if I have this right

1) Machine with windows 7 installed (oem) upgraded to Windows 8

as I understand it, your legal licence for that machine is now windows 8

2) you then installed XP on the same computer and now want to upgrade that to windows 8

as I understand this wont you have to pay for another win 8 (8.1 this time) upgrade, as your licence for windows 7.. has been upgraded to 8 ? in other words what you have is windows 8 and windows XP.

Interesting question, I have no doubt someone with more knowledge than me will come along to answer this.


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When trying to install Visio 2013, a Windows 8 installation automatically started; telling me not to shutdown my computer. Thus my own automatic reaction of pulling the plug.
Unfortunately, some aspects of Win7 appear to be broken, including the spell check, macro functions (ie. can't load normal.dotm or normal.docm), and Outlook functionality.
I would like, dearly, to recover these settings. I do not, upon any circumstances, wish to have to upgrade.

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I have been having so many problems with the Windows 10 installation I'm thinking about going back to Win7 until MS works out all the bugs in Win10.

My PC came with 8.1 and updated to Win 10. Win10 was fine until the last major update when everything went h--- in a hand-basket. Update reset everything to defaults, installed apps I'd uninstalled.

Question: Can I remove the HD with win10 and put it on the shelf until MS gets it running. I want to install a bare HD and install a valid genuine Windows 7 OS on the bare drive. Is there anything I need to know before I give this a try? I know I'll have to reinstall all programs and all missing win7 updates...

Will I be able to install the Win 10 HD at a later date, install updates and be back up and running under Window 10 user accounts?

A:Install Win7 to replace OEM win8.1 w/Win10 install

Hi and welcome to SevenForums,
Since you're talking about a separate win-7 installation on the machine your plan is sound and exactly how you should do it

You might in your bios have to disable fast start and possibly secure boot but otherwise you shouldn't have any problems installing win-7 fresh
You might have to gather drivers if this is a laptop but a desktop would have no issues windows updates will provide most
If you review device manager and see if any unknown device listings are there just post about them same goes for installation of win-7 issues.

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Please help me with this! I've been trying to move to Windows 8. I DLed the Windows 8 Release Preview x64 .iso from Microsoft's site. I followed the steps to make a bootable flash drive from my .iso. When I changed the boot order, I got the following message:
"Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause." I've attached the screenshot, from the VMware version.

I know that I'm running win7 64 bit currently. What could be causing this? I'd love to not have to re-download all 3.3 GB if possible.

Thank you!

A:Trying to Install Win8 on my Win7 laptop, getting BIOS boot error

Does the fact that it's missing a system32 file mean that I should actually be using the 32-bit version??

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I have a question on the best way to install Windows 7 as a dual boot on an existing Windows 8 installation on a new Asus Laptop. Most of the tutorials I've seen assume the pre-existing installation is Windows 7, and say that Windows 7 needs to be installed first, not an option when your Win8 comes pre-installed.

I have an Asus F75, and here is the partitioning:
1. 300 MB EFI System Partition, FAT32
2. 900 MB NTFS Recovery Partition (would seem to be the MS Reserved partition, is that correct?)
3. 279 GB NTFS OS Partition
4. 398 GB NTFS Data Partition
5. 20 GB NTFS Recovery Partition

It sounds like after installing Windows 7, the boot menu will be the Win7 text boot selection menu if you use that as the default OS, which is what I plan on doing, so I believe there isn't anything I need to do to that, is that correct?

I have turned of Fast Boot in Win8, and disabled Secure Boot in the system BIOS.

What should I do about the existing Data partition, which will be the Win7 partition. Should I:
a. Leave that intact and simply install Win7 to it, or
b. Delete the partition, install Win7 and allow the install to manage the unallocated space?

Do I have any other considerations other than collecting all the Win 7 drivers for the laptop (which I have already done)?

A:Install Win7 as Dual-Boot on Existing Win8 Laptop


When dual booting with Windows 8 Preinstalled & Windows 7

Follow Step one to five in this tutorial:
Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7
Warning you must have the uEFI/BIOS firmware setting in Step Three set.

Make sure you read the NOTE at Step three.

Than follow this tutorial: (installing in uEFI mode.)
Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista

For Ref:
UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with - Windows 7 Help Forums

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Hello everybody!

I received a laptop awhile back that came pre-installed with Windows 8 which I did not enjoy, so I decided to downgrade to Windows 7. Which has been going fine and everything is good, but 2~3 weeks ago I had some questions involving my computers performance that I also requested advice about via this forum and was told that my process is pretty bottom shelf and that Win8 was better for this. Plus, the newest update just released so I am curious as to how they improved on it and if I will like it now. I have been reading and am just a little nervous because I don't want to ruin my only computer that I need for school. Being that Win8 has the UEFI funky new BIOS thing, I recall having to change certain items involving booting when I went back to Win7. So, I am wondering if the BIOS is still the same as when I had Win8 (other than those values that I could change back) or did it completely refigure it? I am not extremely well versed with these sorts of things and have just begun really 'tinkering' a few months ago. So, do I need to update the BIOS for Win8 or is it fine? I am currently backing everything up right now and just want to take the proper steps to ensure a smooth installation. Lastly, I read that the product key for Win8 was now stored on the BIOS and there were programs to retrieve it, but I'm assuming that is when you are running Win8. Is that key lost and do I need to purchase another one? Or would it still be on the BIOS? Any advice is greatly ap... Read more

A:Win8 to Win7 back to Win8 (HELP! w BIOS, product key on BIOS etc.)

Hi Jeremy-

What I would do is shrink C in Disk Mgmt to install Win8 in a Dual Boot to try the new update to see if its anything compelling. This is how I tried Win8 repeatedly until I finally deleted it for the last time realizing it doesn't hold a candle to Win7.

The steps are here for Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista - Windows 8 Forums.

If you changed to Legacy Mode to install Win7, then you can install Win8 in Legacy Mode too. You don't need to use Secure Boot or UEFI which is crapware that adds no extra value but plenty of complications.

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I have had Windows 8 Pro since the relase but this is the first time that I have actually managed to install the OS because I'm busy in work. Installation went well, clean partition, installed very quickly and now I am on my desktop. I went to activate and it tells me I have an invalide key. I double checked that I haven't made a mistake and I didn't. Then it dawned on me that this was an upgrade version and not the full version therefore, it would require Windows 7 first and then upgrade to Windows 8.

I have never done up upgrade of an OS and I'm not going to start now all because Bill Gates has decided to stop EU from installing a new OS each time MS release a new OS. The problem with upgrading from one OS to another is the CAB files can become corrupt, or even worse WINSOCK is corrupt. If MS don't want you to run a cleam install... why the heck have they an Advanced section where you can proceed with a clean install.

Therefore, MS have us in all direction. Cough! so to speak. you have to upgrade from one OS to another. Or you could hack the registry which is plain and simple and fool the OS into thinking that you have actually registered your OS when you haven't. I paid for this OS therefore, I want to register honestly... but, what if I slui.exe 4 to bring up the Windows Activationb via phone and ring MS and get them to activate it for me...? Then it's done honestly.

If it comes to it, I shall install Windows 7 which is about what... 20 - 23GB with with the Win... Read more

A:Installed Win8 wont activate after clean install

"Then it dawned on me that this was an upgrade version and not the full version therefore, it would require Windows 7 first and then upgrade to Windows 8."

I don't think so. I used the $40 "upgrade version" to do a clean install on a laptop with only Win 8 RP installed (which doesn't qualify), and it activated with no issues. I haven't seen any evidence that the Win 8 upgrade installer checks for a legit, paid-for version of Windows.

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Im helping a friend with Gateway LT41p05u netbook (32bit) which was dropped while running and ruined the HDD. Every attempt to image the original HDD has failed so the original OS seams to be lost thus far. So i figured i could install a copy of windows 8 no problem, as ive done so many times before. Well its turned out to be not so simple.

I can not boot off of external USB CD drive, or USB flash drive(made a bootable flash with an iso of win7 & 8 with RUFUS) no matter what i do. Ive disabled the the secure boot in the bios (InsydeH20 Rev. 5.0). Ive also enabled F12 boot menu, disabled and re enabled D2D Recovery and network boot, tried changing the SATA mode from ACH to IDE and back again, and changed the boot priority so it sees all USB options before anything else. If i let the machine boot by itself it brings up a message saying "Default boot device missing or boot failed. Insert recovery media and hit any key. Then select boot manager to choose a new boot device or to boot recovery media." Once i go to the boot manager my boot options are limited to one option, "1.yes". I can try to page up and down and no new options appear. Same is true if i f12 into boot manager. if i select yes it doesnt do anything other then refresh the screen.

After doing more research i came across an artical saying that some data on a HDD could cause boot/load failure during a windows install on a UEFI enabled machine so ive even wiped the new HDD with acronis. Seams ... Read more

A:Gateway LT41p wont boot off any media or install Win8 or 7

Sounds like more than the hard drive may have been damaged in the fall. Have you tried resetting the BIOS to fail safe defaults?

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Hello !

First and foremost please be advised that I have done this before without issue.

Toshiba Satellite laptop L855-S5383
Realtek network card

As stated before, I have done this before. Though its a separate laptop, these two laptops are identicle 100%, I bought them both together at the same time off of tiger direct.

obviously I switched UEFI to CSM and disabled secure boot....the win7 installation is complete.

As I have had to do in the past, I need to install the network card driver, which I saved last time I did this, and it doesn't work. I went to the toshiba website, downloaded several drivers and none of them worked. I am stumped and usually dont have any issues with drivers, but have no clue why I cannot get anything to work. Toshiba is usually great with this, so im thinking it has to be on my end. Could it be that I have a faulty install? ...I don't see how as I already know its a driver issue.

To be as specific as possible it is :

Realtek RTL8723AE Wireless LAN 802.11n PCI-E NIC

Thanks in advance for the time and help !

A:Win8 laptop, win7 clean install, network card driver issue

Hi ... Welcome to Seven Forums .. Are you able to run Windows Updates ? ...

Does the Network Adapter show in the Device Manager ? ...

Try the Drivers in the Link below ...

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I'm trying to help a friend who bought a Win8 PC, and it has already crashed on him.

When booting, the PC instantly moves into 'preparing automatic recover', then 'diagnosing your PC', then a 3rd line flashes briefly (it's so fast that I can't read it). After that, the PC reboots and goes through the same 3 steps, over and over and over.

I attempted to get the PC to boot from a LiveCD, just to see if I could get *anything* to work. The PC refuses to load it (I've tested 2 different distros on another, working PC -- they work just fine). I tried unplugging the HDD and booting from the CD. The PC just tells me to replace the boot media and try again. Yes, I've changed the PC boot options in the BIOS to boot from the CD/DVD drive first. I've enabled the boot menu -- the only option available is to boot from the hard drive.

I don't have much experience with Win8, and I'm at a complete loss of what to try next. I've spent quite a bit of time searching for a solution, and most people have my (or similar) symptoms, but nobody has a solution except to boot from the Win8 CD and repair. Unfortunately, the recovery CDs were never created. Sadly, he bought it from walmart, and didn't buy an extended warranty. Apparently the base warrenty is a pathetic 14 days (seriously? 14 days? complete BS).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


A:Replacing Win8 - won't boot from CD


We always assume you have made your Recovery Disks using the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Media Creator app the first day you had your new PC.
& made the Startup Repair CD.
Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8
System Repair Disc - Create in Windows 8

Boot the Repair USB/CD, & try a Refresh.

How do a Refresh:
Refresh Windows 8
How to do a Reset:
Reset Windows 8

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Can someone please help me.
I installed Windows 8. Then created a new partition and installed Ubuntu on it.
But now if I want to select Windows 8 in Grub, it waits a couple of seconds and then restarts Grub.
Image: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0B...lFrTnZORlE3T0U
Has anyone an idea how to get Win8(Consumer Preview) working again?

Thanks for every answer

A:Installed Ubuntu,Win8. Now if I select Win8 in Grub it won't start.

Have you tried the Ubuntu forums? I see this thread, perhaps it will help.

[ubuntu] Dual booting 11.10 and Windows 8 - Ubuntu Forums

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I've a windows 8 Pro package that require me to install it as follows: Upgrade eligibility requirements apply. I had no problems here, I've upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 8 Pro. Also I've had no problem having done the update through the Windows Store to Windows 8.1. I'm happy. My question though is thus:

Can I, with my legal Windows 8 Pro Upgrade-key-package download the Windows 8.1 Pro ISO and use that instead of the Windows Store feature to update my system to Windows 8.1 Pro?

Thank you.

A:Updating a Win8 Pro to Win8.1 Pro with a Legal Upgrad disc


Welcome To Eight Forums

Check out this thread:

Activate retail Windows 8.1 with Windows 8 Product key.

Hope this helps

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I would like to test power management of my PCIe SSD, ASPM can work well.
And I want to know L2 state work well, too.
Anyone knows how to let PCIe device enter L2 state in Win8.1?

A:How do I let PCIe device enter L2 state in Win8/Win8.1

AHCI will automatically do it, by talking to the bios.

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Why wont my Win8 phone come up on my Win8 tablet's Desktop in File Explorer by a USB connection. It did once, but no more. Any suggestions welcome. Thank you!

A:Syncing Win8 phone to win8 tablet by USB connection.

Could be a couple of reasons.

Reboot your phone. Sometimes they just won't talk to each other.All USB cables are not equal. If you use the cable that came with your phone, you should have no problem. If you are using a different cable that came with another device, it may or may not work.

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Hey all,

I have been going crazy trying to find the nitty-gritty details of what goes on under the hood with the upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 on a Surface Pro 2 I am considering upgrading.

I am aware the many Windows 8.1 devices have OEM Product Keys embedded in the BIOS. I am trying to find information on how Windows 10, if installed from a .ISO bootable media, interacts with this key, and how Digital Entitlement plays into all of this. It's currently hard for me to make sense of a lot of this. Can anyone help clarify how all these elements play with one-another?

Another question regarding this process I have currently: If I use a NEW Windows 10 product key during installation, would the new key replace the previous (8.1 OEM) one in the BIOS?

The more I find out about all this, the more mystery there seems to be to it. I am just trying to find the cleanest way to install Windows 10 on a Surface Pro 2, and this BIOS OEM key and Digital Entitlement vs. Product Key thing is really confusing me. Sorry if this isn't the best place to ask, I'm just pretty lost right now and could really use advice from someone who's really knowledgeable about this stuff, currently.

Thanks all .

A:Win8.1 to Win10 and Win8.1 BIOS Product Keys on SP2?

Activation in Windows 10 - Windows Help

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I am trying to gather some basic info about usage of Win8/UEFI and Win8/BIOS. So please participate in this noncontroversial survey. Note that you will not have a place to respond if you are not using Win8.

After responding, I?d also be interested in hearing about problems you have had using Windows 8/UEFI that appear to be associated with using UEFI (i.e., they most likely would not have occurred, in your opinion, under BIOS). Ultimately, I am wondering if you think Windows 8/UEFI is an idea whose time has come.

A:Information on Usage of Win8/UEFI and Win8/BIOS

Voted . . .desktop; hope that helps.

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On my computer there is a pre-installed Windows 8 which works fine for
UEFI boot (Secure boot not necessary).

Now when I switch in UEFI setup at boot time the UEFI mode into the CSM (BIOS) mode
and restart then Windows 8 is not starting any more.

As far as I find out an UEFI-based Windows 8 can only boot with UEFI mode enabled.

So my question is: Can I turn an existing UEFI based Windows 8 installation into
an CSM/BIOS based installation (=a Win8 which boots successfully even when I enable CSM in UEFI setup) ?

If yes: How do I do that?


A:Can I turn a Win8 installation for UEFI into CSM-Mode Win8

What OS are you trying to install?

Your other thread is about dualing booting Windows 7 & 8,
Can I boot with one Bootmanager Win 8 and Win7?
Windows 7 & 8 will dual boot in UEFI mode.

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Is it possible to upgrade from Win8 32bit to Win8 x64bit or trick the PC into thinking its x64bit so I can install x64bit programs

A:Is it possible to upgrade from Win8 32bit to Win8 x64bit

No, you cannot trick it and you cannot upgrade. You can format and start over.

Is there a particular reason you want to get 64bit apps? Is it to take advantage of more than 4GB of RAM?

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When I use File Explorer on Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 Preview I have the navigation pane set to 'show all folders' and 'automatically expand to folder'.On Win8 I use SkyDrive for Desktop, and I place the SkyDrive folder in 'C:\Users\Karl\'; and the SkyDrive folder appears in the File Explorer navigation pane under the Karl Dixon folder.Win 8.1preview has Skype for Desktop integrated into the OS.; and the SkyDrive folder appears at the top of the File Explorer navigation pane.
As I am currently back using Win8 due to an unrelated issue, I would like to know how to have Win8 show the SkyDrive folder at the top of the navigation pane whilst still using 'show all folders' and 'automatically expand to folder' settings.

I'm currently hoping that if I uninstall SkyDrive desktop on Windows 8 before I upgrade to the final release version of Windows 8.1, where SkyDrive will be baked-into Win8.1, that will fix it. I am only trying to replicate the behaviour of Win8.1 Preview, which I installed on both my Win8Pro and Win8EnterpriseN machines previously, and both had the built-in SkyDrive folder located at the top of the navigation pane in File Explorer.

A:SkyDrive for Desktop on Win8 and Win8.1 Preview

Hello Lilsting,

SkyDrive is not as integrated in Windows 8 as it is in Windows 8.1.

Do you have Show Favorites checked in your navigation pane settings?
Favorites - Add or Remove from Navigation Pane in Windows 8
Do you have the SkyDrive desktop app installed in Windows 8? Windows 8.1 doesn't need this.
Hope this helps,

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