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Storage Spaces (Storage Pool) Experience?

Q: Storage Spaces (Storage Pool) Experience?

Has anyone tried the new Storage Spaces feature in Windows 8? Your experience with it?

More specifically:

1. If this system is used on a shared network with other operating systems such as XP and Windows 7, can the storage pool drives be set up as shared, and become visible and usable from the XP and Win 7 machines?

2. If you have a Network Backup drive, like WD My Book Live, will it see and back up the Storage Spaces configured drive just like any other drive on the network?

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A: Storage Spaces (Storage Pool) Experience?

I've only set this up on a Windows Server 2012 configuration therefore I cannot provide the exact steps on how to set one up in a client environment. That being said, a storage space/pool is essentially a virtual disk that resides on one or multiple physical disks allowing you to accumulate free space. For example if I have multiple servers with free space on their data drives I can then create a storage pool to accumulate this. To allocate this storage pool/space to a user or machine you will need to decide what you wish to do with it. Below are a couple of examples of how:

Share via Windows Folder Sharing (UNC Path)Use iSCSI to use the current ethernet infastructure allowing you to assign the storage pool/space a drive letter to the client machineIn a server environment you may wish to use it for DFS (Distributed File System) to maintain redundancy

Personally I use my storage pool as an iSCSI drive for which i have partitioned.

Warning
You can only use the free space of a non Windows install drive. To my knowledge you cannot overcome this with partitioning.

In relation to your second question, you will only able to use the share as a safepoint backup if it is shared via Windows Folder Sharing. For example: \\computername\share

Also you will need to make sure that the NAS is on the same workgroup as the Windows 8 machine hosting the storage pool otherwise it will not be able to find the share. Hopefully this is what you asking however please correct me if it isn't.



Hope This Helps,
Josh

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I created a Storage pool with the following setup. Three 3TB drives with parity all in an external enclosure with eSata and USB 2/3 ports. It was connected via USB when created and had production data loaded and tested without any issues.
After a few days of use I decided to see what happened when I tried to access it via the eSata port. No luck, due to a driver on the eSata card issue with Win 8. So I powered all back down and plugged back in via USB. At this point the Storage pool went
into the state as per the screenshot below. Any suggestions to either fix the issue and/or retrieve the data that is in the volume?

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Hi
The idea of creating a large redundant storage pool seems like a good idea (I can finally get rid of FreeNAS box), but before I do that I have couple of simple question

1) Can I move a pool created on one windows 8 machine to another windows 8 machine?

2) what happens if disk where my OS resides crashes or I feel like re-installing windows 8 on a different set of hardware, will I be risking losing all my data if OS or hardware changes force me to re-install windows 8?

Thanks
Sonisame

A:Storage Spaces-- Is a pool movable?

Originally Posted by sonisame


Hi
The idea of creating a large redundant storage pool seems like a good idea (I can finally get rid of FreeNAS box), but before I do that I have couple of simple question

1) Can I move a pool created on one windows 8 machine to another windows 8 machine?



Yes.






2) what happens if disk where my OS resides crashes or I feel like re-installing windows 8 on a different set of hardware, will I be risking losing all my data if OS or hardware changes force me to re-install windows 8?

Thanks
Sonisame



If the storage pool is independent of the OS disk it shouldn't matter if you need to reinstall. Storage pools themselves offer resiliency through striping and mirroring, if enabled.

You might want to take a read through this for more information.

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When adding an initial drive to a storage pool I get the error "incorrect function"
System: Proliant ML110 G4, Windows 8 64-Bit, 4GB Ram
I have a 160GB drive installed on the motherboard's controller which hosts the OS
I've installed a single 2TB drive on a 2 Port PCI Express Internal SATA II Controller Card (JMB36x).
As soon as I create a pool using the 2TB drive I get the error "Incorrect Function" and the drive becomes RAW.
The drive id's are unique.
It's worth pointing out that the system without the new controller can only support 2TB max of SATA drives, but this is bypassed by the controller card I added?
Help is appreciated.

Get-PhysicalDisk | format-list FriendlyName, UniqueId, ObjectId, BusType

FriendlyName : PhysicalDisk0
UniqueId : 2039374232333633
ObjectId : {af665d5a-f225-11e2-be77-806e6f6e6963}
BusType : RAID

FriendlyName : PhysicalDisk1
UniqueId : IDE\DiskST3160812AS_______________________________3.AJL_\5&3dc7918&0&0.0.0:risa
ObjectId : {af665d5b-f225-11e2-be77-806e6f6e6963}
BusType : ATA
I'm also worried that the 2TB drive is showing up as RAID not SATA on the controller.

A:Storage Spaces can't add drive to pool.

Hm, this is the reverse of a problem that happened a few days ago, that guy found a solution that may relate to this - I'll try to find him and have him take a look at this thread. brb! Welcome to Windows 8 Forums btw.

OK I sent the guy a link to this post, hopefully he can give you something to try. I'm not familiar with using Storage Spaces that much, there are a few in here who are.

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Hi All,

When creating a Storage Spaces Pool, the member drives are no longer listed in Disk Management.

My system has been hanging every so often and when I checked the Windows logs, I see a lot of critical error messages about Harddisk/DR10 having a bad block. Since Disk Management no longer lists the individual pool drives, how do I find out which DR10 is one of the pool member drives?

I've tried mini partition tool to see if it can see the drives, it doesn't. It can only see what Disk Management sees and that's only non-storage spaces pooled drives.

Many thanks!
Chuck

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I had 3x 3TB drives in a parity pool. It started to fill up so i added a fourth 3TB drive and months later one of the original 3 began to fail on me. Performance was slow, then slower, then it showed disconnected.

I retired the drive and added a replacement, literally the same model 3TB drive. I cannot however, get it to remove the failed physical disk and repair the pool. I even tried adding another 2TB drive i had available in case it needed the extra space (didn't make sense but i was reaching).

I get the "drive could not be removed because not all data could be reallocated. add an additional drive to this pool and reattempt this operation."

Any ideas on what i need to do? I have searched a lot and don't really seem to be getting anywhere. The only way i was able to retire the drive was through powershell. I'm assuming it's a GUI issue and perhaps i'm not approaching it correctly via powershell. Attempting to repair virtual disk didn't work.

Any help is appreciated! I really don't want to lose this data. I wasn't able to backup much before the drive failed completely.

A:Storage Spaces - Unable to Remove Failed Drive / Repair Pool

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Apologies if this has already been covered. I did try a search but got nothing specific to my problem.

I currently have 4 Windows 8.1 Pro units around my desk.
One is general day to day.
One is gaming, audio & video work.
One is a currently retired 'server' for backups.
One is the replacement 'server' for backups.
This contains an SSD system disk, a 2Tb HDD for Macrium Reflect images and 2 Storage Space pools.
One consists of 2x250Gb HDD's called DATA & assigned to drive letter 'D'.
The other consists of 4x1TB HDD's called STORAGE & assigned to drive letter 'E'

The replacement 'server' unfortunately decided to go do-lally :(
All I know is, it suddenly decided to reboot 4 days ago and everything went haywire.

As a result I purchased a new motherboard, CPU, ram with the intention of building a fresh install of windows 8.1 on the basis the storage pools would show up in the new system.

Here is the problem !
The pools show up in Control panel /Storage Spaces as DATA (F:) and STORAGE (G:)
Both pools show as OK and all 6 drives show as OK.
If I click on 'view files' nothing happens :(
If I go to windows explorer they show up as Local Disk (F:) and Local Disk (G:)and if I double click to open I get a 'Location is not available. F:\ is not accessible. The volume repair was not successful'. Same for G:

Why is Storage Space manager saying they are working properly when nothing else can access them?
Are they recoverable somehow or have I lost everything ?

A:Storage Spaces not in Explorer, show in Manage Stor Spaces

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I currently have 9 TB of data on storage spaces. I have it setup as a simple storage with no redundancy. I would like to add a new drive and pull out an old drive. I have followed many tutorials to do this but nothing seems to be working. I tried to mark the old drive as retired and remove it but windows will not move the data off of it. Is there a better way to do this? I am familiar enough with powershell so if I need to use that I can. If I knew it was going to be this hard to remove a drive I would have just used drive bender. Is there a way to take my existing storage pool and convert it to another program or go in at the drive level and move the files off the drive I want to drop?

Thank you

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This is probably a dumb question, but, having created the pool, how do I put stuff in it? When I check the External Drive (d in my case) it says the file is empty .
Also my computer will not boot up until I detach the external drive. This has only occurred since I created storage places. What have I done wrong ? The last item in the screen shot (Toshiba) is the external drive

A:Storage Spaces

i think you need to make sure the computer harddrive is first in the list of drives to boot to in the BIOS ,to fix the computer not booting when the external is plugged in .
and to use the drive for storage you will have to add the files you want to save to it there yourself

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I have two drives (750 gb each) in a hardware mirror raid which the contents are very important to me. I bought a 2 TB drive which I created a new storage pool. I transferred all the contents from the hardware raid to the new storage pool (the 2 TB drive). Can I add a two way mirror to the storage pool (or convert the pool to mirror) after if I format and add the two 750 gb drives? When I created the pool, I did not have an extra drive to use for mirroring so I had to select the "none" option for resiliency.

A:Storage Spaces

I am sceptical of mirroring. It takes extra real time during operation and wastes a lot of space.

With all that disk space I would setup partitions for the data and image those. You can schedule that for as often as you like. It runs in the background and compresses the data. That way you use only about 60% of the space.

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I'm issues setting up Storage Spaces. I keep getting this.

Any help? Thanks.

A:Storage Spaces

Anyone?

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Storage Spaces are a very intriguing part of W8. I'd like to give them a try. From what I've read if I try to use Storage Spaces on drives with files the files will be deleted. Is this correct?

If I move my files to another drive that's won't be part of my pool, can I then move them back to my new pools and have them on a drive with the same drive letter so the programs that use them can access them?

I would probably be using my F and G drives to use Storage Space. I assume I can give the pools the same drive letters then move the corresponding files over to them and my programs will be none the wiser that they are part of a Storage Pool?

A:Storage Spaces

Storage Space is quite interesting and I've spent a fair amount of time playing with it. And in the event that your host computer dies, you can simply pull out the drives, move them to another Windows 8 host and the system reads the storage spaces metadata baked into them and reassembles on the next computer without you having to do anything.

Yes, when you setup drives in your pool, it's going to format them at the start..so files would be wiped out. Copy them elsewhere and then copy them back.

Correct, you can assign and change the drive letters associated with your pools. And the programs are none the wiser as to which type of storage they are on.

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Hello, I am transferring all my data away from a WD MyCloud and moving it into my desktop. Currently I have 2 3TB drives in the MyCloud that I will be installing in the desktop after I move everything over. Well, I was almost done when the storage space filled up. So I plugged in a 500 GB drive temporarily and attempted to move the last 10GB of data over. It is still saying that its full and won't let me transfer it. I also tried deleting a few large files, but its still not letting me do anything. The 500GB drive is in the pool showing just a few files. Is there any way to rebalance the drives? Thanks for any help.

A:Storage Spaces

Currently I have 2 3TB drives in the MyCloud that I will be installing in the desktop after I move everything over



Read this before moving the HDDs:
Windows support for hard disks that are larger than 2 TB

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Hi all,

Been trying to find an answer on this to no avail..

I am thinking of switching over to Win 8 to take advantage of the storage spaces feature it offers.

My question is tho, is the main OS drive able to be included in the pool ? Or is it only the extra drives you have attached ? Kinda seems stupid if you have a 1TB+ drive as the main OS just sitting there not able to be used in the pool...

Thx guys..

A:Storage spaces query...

No, the main OS partition cannot be a part of the pool. It's not stupid at all, because I ask you this. How could it be part of the pool when the OS has to already be installed in order to set it up?

You can partition your drive to create a second partition, and that partition can be a part of the pool.

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Hi, I want to configure one PC with 2 HDD with Win8.1 Pro with storage spaces with mirroring. I want to ask you if this is software-defined storage if there is some crash with the computer - how can I recover the data? For example - Windows has to be reinstalled.
Where the configuration is saved? Currently I have 2 Lenovo M58p which I didn't see if there is a possibility to install RAID controller and they've got Win 7 Pro installed.

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Hi everyone. I'm having issues adding an additional drive to an existing Storage Space on my new Windows 8 setup. Its an external usb 3.0 hard drive, 2 tb western digital My Passport.
Ok, so anytime I go into Storage Spaces to add the drive to the pool, it gives me an error:
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Can't prepare drives
Close all applications that are accessing the drive, and then try again.

The system cannot find the drive specified (0x0000000F)
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I've searched everywhere and tried just about everything for a solution, but there isnt much out there in regard to this. =/
I also noticed that the drives details are always blank, however it shows up fine in My Computer as well as in my Computer Management setup.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give!

A:Storage Spaces - Cant Add Drive

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I have been running windows 8 since the 1st Developer preview and have loved every minute of, not had a single problem. When I upgraded the the final version of Windows 8 I decided to use the storage spaces feature to pool my media drives.

And all of a sudden last week i was unable to vie my storage space, looking under the settings for the storage space. it says "Media Drive 1" 'Warning separated form pool; reset drive'.

I am am not able to access any of the data on the two drives. I have physically removed 1 drive and tried to access the data, I have installed the drives in another machine and still no luck.

I am wondering if there is any other way for me to access the data on the 2 drives that are in the pool.

Thanks for your help.

A:Storage Spaces error

I will attempt to help, assuming your Storage Space was set up as a Two way Mirror. If you did not use resiliency, let us know. The fact you cannot access the space in Explorer does not look good.

Since your drive shows as disconnected, do you know what caused it assume that state? Did you move it or add any drives?

The best option is to reconnect the drive and allow the Space to be rebuilt. But even with one drive showing as disconnected, I could still access the files in Explorer. It you are not running a Mirrored or Parity Space, the files may not be accessible.

The second option would be to add another drive to take the place of the one lost. After you remove the disconnected drive, the Space should rebuild itself.

See the attachment for a progression of having a drive fail. The total Pool space available should always be a consideration, and a Mirrored space needs twice as much available space as the data filling it.

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Hello. I read somewhere in a Storage space you can attach drives with different sizes.. I got a pool made of 3 x 500 GB drives. Now i added a 3 TB drive to the pool. But when i try to moves files to the drive. The disk goes offline and under "disk managemet" the disk is offline cause its out of space. Is it cause it cant use the 3 tb drive with 3 x 500 ? in a pool ?

Update: I found the answer. The storage pool does not automatic rebalance the drives. Will this be added in the future ?

A:Windows Storage spaces

Take look at those tutorial:
Storage Pool - Delete in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Add or Remove Drives from Storage Pool in Window 8
Storage Spaces - Create a New Pool and Storage Space in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Delete a Storage Space in a Storage Pool in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Rename Storage Pool, Storage Space, and Drives
Storage Spaces Shortcut - Create in Windows 8

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I was performing a removal of an HDD using the storage spaces feature (because it had the yellow exclamation) and the computer then went into sleep/hibernate mode and when I noticed I started the computer back up and then it showed that the Storage Space was offline.

At the moment I am somewhat freaking out because I have all my video footage on there so I am hoping nothing is wrong. I have five "1 TB" drives hooked up using a Parity setup where according to the info says 'using 2.11 TB of 4.54 TB pool capacity' so I might be ok, but I am not sure.

The problem is that the drive I was trying to remove because it had an yellow exclamation point on it is now saying "Information Preparing for removal" which has been there for hours and my PC led light is blinking for hours as well. There was a point when a window popped out saying unable to remove HDD and when I clicked ok I closed all the windows but now that particular HDD simply shows "Preparing for removal" which has not changed since the issue started. When I now click on the Storage Spaces window it lags and seems out of place. To be honest I have no idea what is happening I can't click on anything and it looks bugged.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to submit further information please let me know.

A:Storage Spaces Trouble

Managed to fix it. Basically reconnecting the drives did the trick.

I unplugged all the storage drives and booted with the OS drive alone. I then turned off the PC and plugged back the drives and Storage Spaces managed to finish removal process of the above drive. Once that was done I turned off the PC, unplugged said drive and everything was working fine. I then replaced the empty drive.

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Hello. I read somewhere in a Storage space you can attach drives with different sizes.. I got a pool made of 3 x 500 GB drives. Now i added a 3 TB drive to the pool. But when i try to moves files to the drive. The disk goes offline and under "disk managemet" the disk is offline cause its out of space. Is it cause it cant use the 3 tb drive with 3 x 500 ? in a pool ?

Update: I found the answer. The storage pool does not automatic rebalance the drives. Will this be added in the future ?

A:Windows Storage spaces

Take look at those tutorial:
Storage Pool - Delete in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Add or Remove Drives from Storage Pool in Window 8
Storage Spaces - Create a New Pool and Storage Space in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Delete a Storage Space in a Storage Pool in Windows 8
Storage Spaces - Rename Storage Pool, Storage Space, and Drives
Storage Spaces Shortcut - Create in Windows 8

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Hi Everyone Long time reader just needed help now ,
Been running 4x 2TB HDD In Parity mode within storage spaces.
I have just added 2x 2TB more to the storage pool. Which went fine.
So i now have a total of 6x 2TB drives.
question i have is the 2 new drives are empty. I thought storage spaces would move all the data so all the drives are in sync.

at the moment the 4 old drive have the data and the new drives dont have any.
Of course i understand this but point using storage spaces is if a drive fails i can replace it and not lose any data. if there not all in sync this wont work right ?
Am i missing something ?
thanks alot all

A:Windows Storage Spaces.. Little help ?

this the only way ?






Right now the poor man's rebalancing is:- right-click largest drive in pool, select Remove
- wait a day
- re-add drive to the pool
- right-click second largest drive in pool, select Remove
- wait a day
- re-add drive to the pool
- right-click third largest drive in pool, select Remove
- wait a day
- re-add drive to the pool
- ...
- right-click smallest drive in pool, select Remove
- wait a day
- re-add drive to the pool
Storage Spaces already is recognized by the "Disk Defragmenter and Opitmizer" as being a Storage Space, and will offer to "Optimize" the drive.
Except that it claims the efficiency is 100% when in reality it's not 100%:
http://i.imgur.com/XGbkVgm.png
It seems like there's was the spot created where the functionality was *going* to go; it just never ended up being written.
It would be nice to finally have it written.

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Merry Holidays to all and to all a good night!

Well, I recently experienced a personal disaster/tragedy yesterday, my main 500 gig hard drive fully died. As in, the disk is at the point where it will spin up, click, and then spin down. No chances of data recovery without a load of dollars.

So that brings me to Storage Spaces. Unfortunately, I was planning on buying a 3 TB hard drive (will now be from Western Digital as I've recollected my personal experiences with Seagate drives and ALL have resulted in failure, an external hard drive of a friend's died in the same manner as mine, and it was a Seagate drive) to start doing backups of vital statistics. I can live on from Windows and program files dying, but documents, music, pictures, and over 300 gigs of video is too tasking on my poor soul.

I'm also in the initial phases of designing my new puter case, which I believe will house at least 12 hard drives, all will be utilized by Storage Spaces in Windows 8. Questions I do have!

I get that it's like a RAID 1 and 10 in ways, but I need some further clarification. You can specify whether to save two or three copies of your data. This is where I get lost.

Say, if I have a 120 gig SSD that I do backups of as well as my current 585 gigs worth of video content as well as other user data files. And I have 12 three TB hard drives going in Storage Spaces. I make the pool size to be 36 TB's as I do not choose to be deceived (more like I can't fit in more drives and don't want to do ... Read more

A:Storage Spaces questions...

If you ever used usenet with binary files, there was a concept known as par files, or parity files. The idea was that you could generate x number of .par files, and then you could lose the same number of real files and recover all of them, regardless of which file was lost.

So, say you had parts 1-10 and 2 .par files. You could lose parts 3 and 7 and recover the complete file. Or it could be parts 1 and 5 and still, using the same 2 .par files recover the entire file. It was pretty neat really.

Storage spaces uses a similar concept. You can create "parity" spaces, and those spaces can recover a logical volume, even if parts of that logical volume, spread over several drives, are lost. Unlike RAID, you don't have to have exactly the same sized individual physical drives or partitions. It can work with a disparate number of disks. Even more interesting, is they don't even have to be the same kindsd of disks. They can be any combination of drives.. USB, SAS, SATA, Firewire.. it can create a logical drive across all of your available drives regardless of type.

There's a good article here:

Storage Spaces explained: a great feature, when it works | Ars Technica

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I have been playing with storage spaces, which is a software raid solution that is built-in to windows. What I first thought to be a very interesting and useful feature has been shown to be a buggy nightmare. I am simply amazed that this made it into RTM in this state. If anything, the bugs should have been worked out and Storage Spaces released in the first service pack for Windows 8.For an overview, Storage Spaces allows you to create Raid-0, Raid-1, Three way mirroring that requires 5 drives (Raid-6?), and Raid-5 software fault tolerance in Windows 8. There approach has some very strange and confusing flaws in my opinion.1. When a drive becomes full, it takes the drive offline rather than just saying the drive is full when you try to use it. If you try to bring it online, it states that you need to add two more drives if its a mirror or another drive if its a simple volume (spanned) volume. What if you do not have any drives laying around or can't afford new ones?You can get around this by simply changing the storage space to be larger than the actual physical space on the drives and then deleting some files in order to free up space. Why should we have to do this in the first place?2. It allows you to create virtual drives that are larger than the actual physical space associated with the storage pool. Why add this extra confusion? If I have two 60 GB drives and want to mirror them, don't let me make a 1 TB mirror. It just doesn't make sense and leads to ... Read more

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set up parity with 6 3TB drives (2.7 TB) and end up with it looking like this... I though windows storage spaces took only one disk for parity?

imgur: the simple image sharer

also tried multiple times same result

A:storage spaces parity right?

From what I understand, this is correct - however, the screenshot seems to indicate some of this storage space has already been used. Is that the case? Did you partition this space up previously before starting the creation of a parity space on the volume?

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Hey gang,
I just purchased a 4TB internal drive to add because my current 2TB was full.
I'm debating whether to just install the 4TB as a regular setup using another drive letter OR to use the Windows 8 feature called Storage Spaces. Are any of you using Storage Spaces, if so, please let me know your configuration...(its like the modern version of RAID).

If I understand correctly, this would allow me to have 3TB of Virtual Disk space set-up as 2-way mirror, HOWEVER, given that one of the drive is only 2TB, if my 4TB drive fails (and assuming it contains more than 2TB of data at that point), only 2TB will be "safely" stored by the mirror, because thats the max available on the smaller drive. Which makes me think now that my idea of using Storage Spaces may not be the best idea... as I'd actually be "losing" the additional 2TB that I paid for when I bought my 4TB drive. Perhaps a better solution is to install them as regular separate drives, and just back them up each externally...

Buying a drive almost requires buying 2 additional drives nowadays. One for onsite-backup, and another for offsite backup.

Thoughts from the Windows users?

A:Are you using Storage Spaces (Pools)?

Storage spaces isn't really the modern version of RAID, instead it's like an implementation of LVM which lots of storage devices and Linux/Unix has used for a long time.

I'm not using it though, it's quite inefficient.
Confused on Storage Spaces with Parity and free space

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I am setting up a new home PC\Server and decided to use Win 8.1 since I needed to upgrade to at least Win 7 Professional to use Disk Mirroring. Now I find out Win 8.1 has Disk Mirroring (From Disk Management Console) and Storage Spaces.

My question is which one is better and faster. I just want to mirror two drives (RAID 1) to store my pictures so if one drive fails I have a copy. I'm not interested in expanding this or adding drives that Storage Spaces seems to support.

Thanks

A:Win 8.1 Drive Mirroring VS Storage Spaces-which is better

Basically, if you just want to stick with mirroring, just stay with RAID 1. You can also do Storage Spaces and set it up to basically act like RAID 1, but I can't tell you if one is faster or not. I'd imagine both are the same, that is of course unless you have a RAID card with a dedicated processor.

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Hi everyone, I've been using storage space for around a year with pool and raid functionality and I just realized the numbers don't add up... I have 7x 2TB all parts of a single pool with parity. Now here's the numbers:

Physical space: 14tb
Storage Space size (user set): 12tb
Used Storage Space size (according to windows explorer): ~6tb
Used Storage Space size (according to storage spaces): ~9tb
Individual drive used % (according to storage spaces): ~75% each

Storage spaces tells me to add a drive, low capacity... So I know how normal RAID5 works and it really shouldn't use 50% of the total used space as shown by the numbers above (6tb + 3tb assumed to be parity = 9tb). Also, if I need to add another drive, this means I'm almost full at 6tb/14tb?! This is worst than MIRROR RAID...

Am I reading it wrong?

A:Storage Spaces Capacity (RAID5)

Storage Spaces is not RAID5.

It is more akin to the old PAR archive system they used to use for transferring binaries over usenet. You can also over-commit. That is, you can define more disk space than you actually have, and then just add more drives as you increase space.

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I have been running windows 8 since the 1st Developer preview and have loved every minute of, not had a single problem. When I upgraded the the final version of W8 I decided to use the storage spaces feature to pool my media drives.

And all of a sudden last week i was unable to vie my storage space, looking under the settings for the storage space. it says "Media Drive 1" 'Warning separated form pool; reset drive'.

I am am not able to access any of the data on the two drives. I have physically removed 1 drive and tried to access the data, I have installed the drives in another machine and still no luck.

I am wondering if there is any other way for me to access the data on the 2 drives that are in the pool.

Thanks for your help.

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Something happened to one of the drives on my storage spaces pool. I can no longer see the files, so I tried to remove the storage space. This operation fails with the error: "The disk structure is corrupted an unreadable". There are also similar NTFS errors in the event log.

How can I force the removal of this storage space?

A:Can't remove storage spaces drive

Originally Posted by iridium123


Something happened to one of the drives on my storage spaces pool. I can no longer see the files, so I tried to remove the storage space. This operation fails with the error: "The disk structure is corrupted an unreadable". There are also similar NTFS errors in the event log.

How can I force the removal of this storage space?



Type storage spaces in the Search box, look for a panel that says "Select drives to create a storage pool", there may be a place on that one to Take offline.

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I recently had a 3TB hard drive fail on me, and I am trying to come up with a much better solution for storing my data so that I don't have to recover everything from CrashPlan again. My plan is to have two 3TB Hard drives connected in RAID 0 (Simple Space) so that I have 6TB of usable space, and then I would like to mirror that data over to an external 6TB drive. I want this all to appear as one drive within windows. Is this possible using Storage Spaces? Thank you so much!

A:Are nested storage spaces possible? (Like RAID 0+1)

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Hello...

I've recently added a couple of drives to my existing Storage Pool which is made up of the following drive sizes:

2x4TB
4x3TB

The pool is set for parity.

The total pool capacity showing is 18.1TB and currently using 8.27TB however when I check the drive within Windows Explorer it reads:

Storage space (drive V) 2.76TB free of 8.26TB

Please note that I have optimized the pool.

Am I missing something here as I would assume that the 8.26TB would increase to what the total pool capacity is (18.1TB)?

Please note I can increase the "Available pool capacity" from 9.91TB to 18.1TB but I'm concerned that I'll lose all my data.

Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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I'm hoping someone here might have experience with mirroring 2 drives in Windows 10. I'm reading How-to's but some of my basic questions remain unanswered.

I have an SSD (C) used for the OS and loading apps and a 2TB drive that holds for all my files, images and videos, etc.

I want to add a second 2TB drive and create a Storage Spaces 'Mirror' setup to offer redundancy in case the D drive fails. (I also have off-site of backups). From what I've read the mirrored drives will need to be formatted so I will have to backup and re-copy all the current data onto the Mirrored set.

But here's the question:

Will a single mirrored drive behave like a single drive if it's removed from the set and connected to another computer?

Does the file and folder structure of one of those mirrored drives offer access to the files if it's removed and accessed using a removable SATA dock on another computer?

Thanks for any help with this question.

A:Storage Spaces Mirror 2 Drives?

It's a bit pointless as a lot of space will be wasted and if one is infected so will the other. If you use disk imaging you can have lots of backup spanning a few months that is creating images not cloning

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Hi all,
I'm hoping that someone will be able to help me after a seriously royal screw up on my part.
I've got a large storage space of 15 2tb drives in a parity configuration. Tonight, I only had 12 drives and then I went ahead and added 3 more. The problem here however is that when I went to change the size of the pool in the GUI, it kept coming up with
"Invalid size" even if I went up by less than 1tb. So, I just figured the GUI was broken and so I decided to do it in powershell instead. Here is what I typed:
Resize-VirtualDisk -FriendlyName "Bluray" -Size 18.2TB
That seemed to work as it didn't throw up any errors, and storage spaces was now showing that I had an 18.2TB pool. Windows explorer however was still showing the old pool size (15.6TB I think) and so finally I decided to restart
windows....
After restarting however, I noticed that the entire pool had gone! The drive letter was still there but when I clicked on it, it said that I needed to format it. The storage spaces itself however is still showing as healthy.
Please please please please please tell me that I haven't lost 14TB worth of data?? Is there any hope of getting this back at all?
I will be eternally grateful if anyone can help.
Thank you!

A:Storage Spaces RAW after changing size

I think what might have happened is that you hit the limitation of how big an NTFS volume can be when using the default cluster size (around 16TB).  You would need to use a larger cluster size to be able to have a bigger volume.  But that doesn't
help you in the here-and-now.
The results from Get-Virtualdisk actually do point to a problem with NTFS.  The virtualdisk shows healthy, but it doesn't really care that the file system inside it isn't working. It only cares that its own metadata is consistent. 

We can try shrinking the partition down to under the limitation.  On of my coworkers answered a question like this in an older post.
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w8itprogeneral/thread/29e112c2-77ed-4671-af25-d9263ad9b8d6 

If you aren't comfortable doing this, or can't figure out which partition to resize, do a 'Get-partition' and post it here.  I'll see if I can figure out which one is the troublemaker.Robert Mitchell Senior Support Escalation Engineer Microsoft Corp.

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The drive was set to "Offline" in storage Spaces and nothing seems to work to get it back "Online"
Does anyone have experience with this?
Any help will be appreciated.

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I have Windows 8, my OS is on a separate drive and I have placed 8x2tb drives into storage spaces parity. I wanted to use dual parity. No option for dual parity came up and windows did not automatically build a dual parity, as far as I'm aware.

Storage Pool says using 10TB of 14.5TB
Drive Tools says 7.82TB free of 14.4TB
Properties says Used space 6.67 Free space 7.82

I'm interested to know if I'm already using Dual Parity or if I'm not how to get the option to use it? Ive done a great deal of searching on the net for an image of the option. Or concrete proof that someone else is using the option and have found none.

A:Storage Spaces Dual Parity

Most of what I read about dual storage speaks to Windows Server 2012.
Tip of the Day: Dual Parity Storage Spaces - Tip of the Day - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
2 of 3: Microsoft Storage Spaces: Configuration | Hardware Revolution
Windows 8 (8.1) Storage Spaces, anything new? - Ars Technica OpenForum
https://www.google.com/search?q=wind...85.nHJ4vi-n2Eo

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Im running my media pc with storage spaced but 1 of my 500 GB drives failed so time to replace so got a 3tb drive and added it to my pool then left to optimize but 10.8% later the new drive failed having 2 drives fail took the whole storage pool away leaving me without all my files, i posted of the buggered drive, i now have the replacement here but optimization wont start at all and i cannot remove either failed drive as i dont have the space so i need to add a new drive, so i added 3 drives 1.8tb total but i still cant remove or optimize, so im in a pickle and i dont like pickles...

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I have a small PC with 3 hard drives, 1 is the OS drive and the other 2 are in a drive pool using Storage Spaces.

Now my OS drive has failed and my Macrium backup files are in the Drive Pool. I have a new drive for my OS.

What is my best course of action?

A:Storage spaces - My OS drive failed.

Originally Posted by Davoodoo


I have a small PC with 3 hard drives, 1 is the OS drive and the other 2 are in a drive pool using Storage Spaces. Now my OS drive has failed and my Macrium backup files are in the Drive Pool. I have a new drive for my OS. What is my best course of action?



Storage Spaces/Drive Pool makes independently checking each of the data hard-drives impossible? Quick-read via Google has me believing the software needed to view data folders & files resided on the now-defunct OS hard-drive, is that correct? And, there was no way to make a WinPE-like Storage Spaces/Drive Pool & Macrium Reflect usb boot stick or DVD boot, correct? Or, was there a way originally and such boot was not made?

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Hello, please advice.

I found this new technology very convenient and decided to mirror an internal 1 Tb HDD with an external USB 1 Tb HDD using ReFS. When unplugged the external USB HDD and tried to get access to the files from another Windows 10 machine and it was recognized as a broken space at first, but then it got just mounted as normal and files where accessible. When plugged back to the Storage Space everything went back to normal... so I got to think this it is kind of a great "auto backup" with roaming capabilities?

I can't find any info on how tolerable this application would be for this technology, do you think is there any considerations I may be warned about?
 

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Those running Windows 8, do you use Storage Spaces feature? If so, what is your hard drive setup? How do you like it? Reason you are using it? Beneficial? Thanks

A:Storage Spaces - Users opinions?

I'm right now not using it at the moment but I've researched the bullocks out of it to give a relatively informed opinion.

Basically, it's real nice.

You can use different hard drive interfaces to combine into one storage pool, which you're able to do a parity or two or three way mirroring. From what I've been told, the parity is a good option to for ULTIMATE redundancy and protect against drive death. But, it appears it's slow as crap to do that, around I think 20-30 MBs/sec. You'd use that for data that doesn't change often, like videos. Two way mirroring is faster, usually around the hard drive's native speeds, and copies your data twice across the pool. This would be used for maybe documents or pictures, depends on how far you want to go.

There is also thin provisioning where you can virtually set a pool to five TBs, but only have 1 TB physically available. As you reach the physical capacity, Action Center will tell you to add more drives to the pool.

The reason I'll be doing it is because I'm a media whore basically. I'm planning on an initial six TB setup with a hard drive cage meant for a RAID as it as alarms to indicate hard drive fault, which Storage Spaces works with as well. If the system detects an impeding death, it will ring off an alarm on the cage. I also demand drive fault resistance as I had a drive die on me and I didn't set up a backup soon enough. Couldn't recover ANYTHING. With that setup, I believe I'll start out with a two way mirror, and then gro... Read more

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Hi. Can anyone help me? I am really concerned I may have lost the contents of the Storage Space I have created in Windows 8.

Having read an article by Woody Leonhard extolling the virtues of Storage Spaces and how it could take over from Windows Home Server,I began the transfer at the end of October. I started with 8 HDDs, most 1.5 or2Tb drives, but there were 2 @ 3Tb drives which I had been using elsewhere and which were already formatted as 2.72Tb. The transfer process was going well and I had got almost ? complete, with about 18Tb transferred on to the storage space based on a now grown pool of about 15 HDDs.

The Storage Space ? it was on a ?parity? basis- was ?all green?, although I was often prompted to increase the number of HDDs as the transfer progressed and all new HDDs had been successfully assimilated (Borg like!). The problem arose when I tried to add a new 3Tb Seagate HDD. It was only recognised as 2Tb and so I attached it to my main PC and formatted it via GPT and got 2.72Tb showing. I then put the HDD in the Win8 machine and in ?My Computer? it appeared as 2.72Tb. However, when I sought to add it to the Pool, the applet showed the HDD as being only 1.99Tb. Back in ?My Computer? it confirmed the HDD was 2.72. I thought it might just be a minor bug in the applet and clicked to add the HDD to the pool, but having done so, the overall size of the Storage Space only increased by 2Tb, not the 2.72 I expected. I immediately hit the? remove? button before anything... Read more

A:Help: Windows 8 Storage Spaces and 3Tb Drives

Sorry you are having problems with this. I was not running a Storage Spaces until you posted and then I decided to try it using 2 640 GB drives. Not many of us have 15 hard drives laying around.

None of us would want to be responsible for you loosing any data, so any suggestions should be vetted thoroughly before you take any action.

Considering the info you have given, I would try to add the last 3 TB drive and see if it can be incorporated, and don't worry about its size just yet. The Storage Spaces utility seems to format the drives, so being pre-formatted may not make a difference to it. Also, there may be some requirement by the utility to balance out the space for consistency. But I would guess right now, your primary goal is to remove the red notification on your space. Would you agree it is probably the result of the 2, 3 TB drives being shown as "disconnected"?

I will hope, that because the drives show as disconnected, the data was maintained on the remaining drives. Is there any way you can tell for sure?

So, some questions. of the 15 drives, how are they connected to your system?

Are you using a UEFI or Legacy install? My drives were configured as GPT by the Utility, but I run UEFI.

Now, my tests:

I had to test using a Mirror setup, since I only have two drives. You need at least 3 for parity. If I can find another drive, I might try that later.

But I created the pool, shut down the system and removed the drives. A reboot showed no... Read more

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I have a storage space consisted of 3 X 2 TB hd drives in parity mode. I used the drives writing 3,06 TB of files, that means I didn't used the whole available disc space (actually 2 X 1,81 TB available and 1 X 1,81 TB as parity). I added a new 2 TB drive to expand the array. But windows calls me to add 3 drives not 1 (as I did) and keeps saying I' m using 4,6 TB. I double checked the capacity of my files and it's indeed 3,6 not 4,6 TB.
I don't understand what happened. Are my files secure? Is there a way to check the health of storage space?

That's the actual screenshot:

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A:Storage spaces not writing data equally

Personally I would do matching drives on a NAS in RAID format. Storage Spaces is still considered a beta product at this time. So use at your own risk.

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Hello everyone,

I have a windows 8 machine that acts as a media storage computer on my home network. It has 8 storage drives varying in size from 1 to 4 TB. I have been using Drive Bender to create pools, however am interested in switching to Storage Spaces.

Currently with Drive Bender I have created several pools for storage of different media (movies, TV shows, Audio, Photos). Each pool has several drives within it. There is no replication of the files within the pools. They are configured as JBOD with 1 mount point.

Since I have no replication of files I need to be able to get files of of a drive if something happens with the program that manages the space. Drive Bender does a good job of this and I never feel like I will lose a file if Drive Bender breaks.

1) Can I get files off of a drive if Storage Spaces "breaks" and how would I do this?

2) Drivepool (not Drive Bender) has several options that allow management of how data is written to the pool of drives (such as filling 1 drive then moving to the next keeping files together). Is this an option with Storage Space?

Thanks for any help you can provide me.

-S

A:Storage Spaces vs Drive Bender vs Drivepool

No one has any ideas?

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On my personal file server PC, I have two 1TB drives that are configured in Windows Storage Spaces to be I'm assuming a RAID1 array. Basically my two 1TB drives show up as one 1TB drive. Eventually I am going to replace Windows 10 with Server 2016 (which is on a separate SSD) and I wanted to make sure I didn't corrupt the array, or whatever it is with Storage Spaces, when I reinstall Window. I thought about just unplugging the drives while I reinstall, but I wasn't sure if this will still cause issues. So do I need to do anything to prevent issues, or can I reinstall Windows without worry. If I do need to do something: backup data; clear the Storage Space setup and anything else?

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How can I reload the Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller? Something went haywire with my G780...it didn't recognize an SD card in the slot, and the same for a SATA drive via USB. Then, after I tried to find/load a new driver, I made the unfortunate mistake of deleting the problem driver (it was marked YELLOW) thinking it would reappear cleanly when I rebooted. Not so. Help!

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I have a 4x 2TB drive storage pool setup with storage spaces under parity mostly used for movies/tv shows. I decided to buy 2 more 4TB drives and add them, but I only have space for 1 more at the moment (only 6 SATA connectors on my MB). After adding it (and appearing successful), it attempted to rebalance but eventually stopped changing the %complete and Storage Spaces eventually crashed. I tried again with my second drive, and the same problem. If I do "get-storagejob" in Powershell, every time i boot up it has 3 jobs (screenshot in linked Imgur album) and 2/3 of them always fail at 42%.
I've tried removing both of the drives that failed to add (crashes), I've tried cancelling the rebalancing (crashes), and many other things but Storage Spaces continues to crash as soon as those 2 jobs reach 42% or I do anything to change something.
Data on the drive appears accessible, but any attempt to view results in eternally spinning progress bars (sometimes a second or two of video before sputtering out). I'm usually pretty good with Google and can solve my own problems but this has had me spinning my wheels for days.
Computer:
OS - Windows 10 Pro
CPU - i7 6700
MB - Z170A PC MATE
Any other details should be in the CPU-Z pastebin if it helps.
http://imgur.com/a/f2ObI
http://pastebin.com/T0SMLrqh

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