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Windows 7 - System Restore, Saving a Backup & Permanant Restore Point

Q: Windows 7 - System Restore, Saving a Backup & Permanant Restore Point

My questions are on Windows 7 System Restore, Restore Points and Backups; specifically, potentially using a Backup as a Permanent Restore Point.

Here is the situation...

About a month ago, I did a complete Factory Restore on my HP desktop and returned it to it's factory condition. After removing the bloatware and performing all the necessary Windows Updates, the Factory Restore process went off without any issues.

Today, however, I needed to use System Restore due to an issue I was having with multiple monitors that I just couldn't figure out. So, I went into System Restore and found a "Date andTime" of a restore point that was right around the same time I did the Factory Restore. That Restore Point was also the oldest and since I knew it was a known & good restore point, I decided to use it. That restore point "Description" was labeled "System Image Restore Point" and the "Type" was labeled "Backup." (See Image)

I don't recall setting up or doing any backups although, between Windows Backup, Norton Backup and HP's Backup utilities some type of backup obviously happened. FYI, I hate having all those options, as I'd rather use native Windows tools. In any case, today, I used the System Restore using the System Image Restore Point labeled as Backup and, after performing a few minor Windows Updates, everything went off without a hitch and my monitor problem was solved.

However, seeing that Restore point being labeled as "Backup" I got curious about that Backup so I went into "Control Panel" then "System and Security" and then "Backup and Restore" to try to find the backup, although it was not found by Windows. (See Image)

Questions...Where is that Backup file and how do I find it? Again, System Restore found it & restored it successfully so obviously it's somewhere.
In System Restore, are restore points labeled as "Type" / "Backup" always saved or are they eventually overwritten.
Moving forward, how do I (or can I) save "1" permanent good backup, forever, without writing over it?
I would like to have one Backup or Image that I can always revert to. Moreover, I don't want to keep creating multiple Backups as I'd rather have "one known good backup" that I can save and always revert to, every few months or so. Plus, by doing so, I could always perform necessary Windows Updates and then resave another new backup.

FYI, on my SSD C: Drive, I only save Windows, Office and necessary system/software packages like PDF, Flash & Antivirus Software, as well as hardware drivers & settings for Printer, Mouse, Keyboard, etc. All of my documents & files are stored on a separate 2TB internal hard drive & backup up to an external hard drive so my goal is to keep my C: Drive fresh & clean with the goal of reverting and resaving those drive settings, every couple months or so.

I do realize Backup & Image are not the same but if someone can explain a good process on how to do this, I would appreciate it. My research indicates a lot of people ask this question and there area variety of opinions, answers & methods. I don't want to use any 3rd party software, certainly not the Norton (Comcast) backup software I have, as I just want to use the native tools in Windows 7.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated...Thanks ! ! !

Preferred Solution: Windows 7 - System Restore, Saving a Backup & Permanant Restore Point

I recommend downloading and running DAP. It can help sort out any driver and firmware related issues on your system

It's worked out well for many of us in the past.

You can download it direct from this link http://downloaddap.org. (This link will open the download page of DAP so you can save a copy to your computer.)

A: Windows 7 - System Restore, Saving a Backup & Permanant Restore Point

ad 1) restore points are in the shadowstorage

ad 2) yes they are overwritten when the shadowstorage is full. You can set the size of the shadowstorage with vssadmin

ad 3) for permanent backups I suggest imaging. There you control the images yourself.

Imaging with free Macrium

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My questions are on Windows 7 System Restore, Restore Points and Backups; specifically, potentially using a Backup as a Permanent Restore Point.

Here is the situation...

About a month ago, I did a complete Factory Restore on my HP desktop and returned it to it's factory condition. After removing the bloatware and performing all the necessary Windows Updates, the Factory Restore process went off without any issues.

Today, however, I needed to use System Restore due to an issue I was having with multiple monitors that I just couldn't figure out. So, I went into System Restore and found a "Date andTime" of a restore point that was right around the same time I did the Factory Restore. That Restore Point was also the oldest and since I knew it was a known & good restore point, I decided to use it. That restore point "Description" was labeled "System Image Restore Point" and the "Type" was labeled "Backup." (See Image)

I don't recall setting up or doing any backups although, between Windows Backup, Norton Backup and HP's Backup utilities some type of backup obviously happened. FYI, I hate having all those options, as I'd rather use native Windows tools. In any case, today, I used the System Restore using the System Image Restore Point labeled as Backup and, after performing a few minor Windows Updates, everything went off without a hitch and my monitor problem was solved.

However, seeing that Restore point b... Read more

A:Windows 7 - System Restore, Saving a Backup & Permanant Restore Point

ad 1) restore points are in the shadowstorage

ad 2) yes they are overwritten when the shadowstorage is full. You can set the size of the shadowstorage with vssadmin

ad 3) for permanent backups I suggest imaging. There you control the images yourself.

Imaging with free Macrium

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Ok I borke world recored for formating windows 7 , the last 2 months .
The problem is ;
Windows System restore keep freezing , I'm not trying to do system restore , but when I try to install/remove a software , windows try to create restore point , making the installation/removing prograss freeze , till the process fail , takes about an hour to. Installation/removing will continues after.

This windows is 6 days old , issue keep getting back after each format , sometimes after 2 weeks, sometimes after few days , once happened after installing graphic driver ( was first and only thing installed ) .

Sometimes it works fine after reboot , then refuse to work hour later .

I turned system protection off , the installing/removing works fine.
I tried tracking the issue , but it happens randomly .
Is this another windows 7 bug ?

What could trigger this issue ?
I did full scan , Kasper Sky , Avast ,and Nod32 , system is clean.
Removed Anti viruse .
Reinstalled , repaired windows through upgrade , issue still exist , not fixed.
System restore works fine in safe mode.

Any help , would be appreciated.

A:Windows 7 system restore point. Can't create / restore .

I solved this issue. Might someone els find this thread helpful.

Since it worked in safe mode and not in normal mode , there must be something perventing it from this.
in MSconfig , I unchecked all startup , and all services , except Microsoft services , System point was working fine then, I enabled few services and startup till I found the software causing this issue , it was graphic tweaking tool that comes with graphic card driver (Zotac fire storm ) I unistalled it , but it wasn't enough , I had to remove the startup entry manualy , now system working perfectly .

I hope this methode helps people that suffering from smiliar issue .
Note : If it fail to create restore point in safe mode , probably system file is damaged , and the above might not work.

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it's turned on, i've created several restore points but i went in to do a resotre because of my office word 2003 appearance because it changed from the rest of the suite. my restore points are not there. none of them, if i stuff something up on here i will have to re-install windows. i don't want that. help me please.

A:Windows XP System Restore not saving restore points

See if this Information helps.

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If I edited the registry & subsequently found I had to undo the changes, could I use a restore point I created just prior to the changes instead of a system state backup/restore?

It is my understanding that a checkpoint takes a snapshot of the registry.

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I Tried This Method Too But No Help

Boot into Safe Mode without networking.
Open a elevated command prompt.
Type net stop winmgmt and hit Enter. This will stop the Windows Management Instrumentation Service.
In Windows Explorer, go to C:\Windows\System32\wbem and rename the Repository folder to Repositoryold.
Restart the computer to normal mode (not Safe Mode).
Open a elevated command prompt.
Type net stop winmgmt and hit Enter.
Type winmgmt /resetRepository and hit Enter.
Restart the computer to normal mode (not Safe Mode).

A:Can't Create a System Restore Point and Backup

Make sure that the VSS service isn't disabled

Changing the startup type of the VSS service and rebooting can often resolve issues.

Right click on 'My Computer'.
Select 'Manage'.
Select the 'Services' tree node.
Right click on 'Volume Shadow Copy'
Select Properties
Change the startup type to 'Automatic'

Sometimes re-registering VSS core components can fix errors. Copy the following commands to Notepad and save the file with a ‘.bat’ extension. Run the .bat file by opening a command prompt and entering the .bat file name.

cd /d %windir%\system32
net stop vss
net stop swprv
regsvr32 /s ole32.dll
regsvr32 /s oleaut32.dll
regsvr32 /s vss_ps.dll
vssvc /register
regsvr32 /s /i swprv.dll
regsvr32 /s /i eventcls.dll
regsvr32 /s es.dll
regsvr32 /s stdprov.dll
regsvr32 /s vssui.dll
regsvr32 /s msxml.dll
regsvr32 /s msxml3.dll
regsvr32 /s msxml4.dll
vssvc /register
net start swprv
net start vss

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Here is my problem. I have a good HDD with all my installed programs that work with Windows 7, my computer crapped so I had to canabilize my computer to salvage what I could.

ReInstall Windows 7
Obvisouly a previous installation of windows will NOT play nice with a different motherboard, I get the unholy Blue Screen of Death and then suicide (restart). I reinstalled Windows 7 on to another harddrive and contacted Microsoft for product key assistance.

Software and Licenses
My heartache is not only having to reinstall every bit of software that I own; my biggest problem are the licenseing issues with the serial numbers that have to be activated online....or DEACTIVATED prior to screwing up your computer.

Virtual Speculation
I do know there are programs out there that will emulate windows. Virtual Box is a popular program that lets you emulate any OS on pretty much any other OS. *for those who dont know what I am talking about, good bye * At this point I am stumped because most of these programs use ISO versions of Windows....I need to emulate my specific version of windows straight from the HDD so that I can go back and back up or at least DEACTIVATE what I can.

Programs like:
Photoshop CS5
Norton 360

Im trying to be honest and stay within the law here. I paid hundreds of dollars for these programs, I want them back.

A:Go into Windows on old HDD, No restore point, No backup.

So, log story short.

I want to jump back into that specific Windows 7 straight from the HDD without needing to create a Virtual Image.

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My Lenovo T60 crashed and was not able to be repaired. I do not know what caused my laptop to crash, but according to the PC Tech, the hard drive was reformatted. To be honest, I am here in the Philippines and did not bring my recovery disks with me & I am not so sure about the technical ability of the PC Tech.

That being said, he installed Windows XP Professional on my laptop and partitioned my hard drive. I have a 250 GB Western Digital HD. Before my laptop crashed, the drive was NOT partitioned. After the installation, I now have two drives, C, with 40 GB and D, with about 200 GB.

I lost a lot of photos and music, and other important documents. I decided to try to recover some of these files and used Recuva. The good news is that a lot of missing documents can be recovered. While listing the files and looking at them, I noticed that I had several System Restore points that I can recover.

My question is, can I use the most recent System Restore point that I recover and use that to reinstall all the missing software? I had MS Office 2007 Professional, MS Visio 2007, MS Project 2007, and other software that I do not have the installation disks with me.

From what I have read, System Restore will reinstall the system (registry, files, and software only) and not the My Documents folder.

If this can work, where do I put the system restore file? If need be, I can delete the new partition and resize the C partition, restore, and then repartition the hard drive afterwards.
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A:Can I use a recovered System Restore point file to restore missing sw crashed laptop?

Since you already lost everything, try the System restore but first backup everything Recuva found onto a USB key. If your version Windows was not the same what the tech installed, it might not work. Also, he should have first ask you what to do with your files before formatting.
Otherwise you will have to wait till you can re-install everything.

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I used to be able to get a System Restore point generated daily and accessible on a calendar. I understand that the Restore Point calendar has been done away with, can't imagine why?

Is it now possible to have a daily System Restore point automatically generated and easily accessible somewhere?

Thank you!

A:Can System Restore Automatically Generate Daily Restore Point?

Welcome to the Seven Forums

See if this tutorial will help.
System Restore Point : Create at System Startup


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It appears that I have created 2 files that system restore uses in creating restore points.
I found that by deleating on of them, system restore returns to functionalaity.
Unfortunately, I didnt make a record of the file name that gets duplicated (slightly different duplicate).

If someone knows the file created and maintaind by the system restore process, I would appreciate you letting me know what it is so I can delete one of them.

A:System Restore- Created Duplicate Restore Point Files

Wait what is your asking? System Restore creates restore points, which are hidden in a folder called "System Volume Information" on the root of your system drive. These restore points are actually folders inside System Volume Information, each folder contains versions of system files and data of changes to your system (such as software and hardware installs). If a problem occurs you can revert to a restore point.

If you are worried you have two restores are almost identical you can clear all the restore points leaving the most recent by going to Start (Orb on Vista)->All Programs->Accessories->System Tools->Disk Cleanup.

Vista - On Vista, dialog will open click "Files from all users on this computer", then on following dialog click "OK".
XP - On XP, click "OK" on the dialog that appears.

Now it will start scanning for files that can be cleaned up. When it's done scanning a new window will appear and on the top of that window there will be some tabs, click the tab labeled "More Options". Look for the section that talks about System Restore and click the Clean Up button. Then Click "OK" on the main window. This clears all the restore points except for the most recent and should resolve your duplicate restore point problem.

I do not recommend that you ever delete files or folders in the System Volume Information, as if you need that file and your system crashes you are pretty much screwed.


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I am having difficulties with this.
1. Does Win 7 limit the quantity of past restore points it shows upon user request?
2. If stored elsewhere where do I find them?
3. Is there a way to set it up to show at least the last 10 restore pointsd created, or is there a smaller limit.
Right now the one and only restore point that is available is the last one. So it is like a revolving door every time a new restore point gets created, the previous one gets dropped and does not show any longer.

Given my limited competence with computer knowledge please post answers in layman terms as in Step 1.. 2 3. type.

I would appreciate help over this.

Thank you kindly

A:System Restore how to set to show every past restore point inc/manual

I believe that if you go to Backup and Restore (Start button, type Backup in the search bar at the bottom of the start menu), then click Restore button, on the screen that pops up is a blue link that says "Choose a different Date".. This will then allow you to select which backup you would like to recover your data from..

Is that what you are looking for. Apologies If I have mis-understood you.

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For some reason my System Restore function isn't automatically creating (or isn't showing) System Restore points as it should be doing for "major" system events (e.g., isn't automatically creating restore points before/after Windows Updates and software/driver updates). I'm not sure if it isn't creating the restore points at all, or if it's just not displaying them as available restore points.

Another piece of the puzzle - I've manually created restore points at various times, and they have initially shown up on the list of available restore points as expected. However, when I looked at the list today, the restore points I created manually have Disappearead! I'm certain that I didn't delete them. I've selected every option I can think of to show me a complete list of available restore points, but no luck getting them to show up on the list. Also, my "Current Usage" is listed as "0 bytes", even though a few restore points are showing on the list. All of this makes me wonder if the system is creating the restore points, but just saving them in a way that makes them "invisible" to the System Restore utility.

Here's what I've done so far:
- Double checked my System Restore/Protection settings, and my system drive (C: ) is definitely set to "ON".
- Checked the System Restore configuration, and it's set to "Restore system settings and previous versions of files"
- Checked the "Disk Space Usage" for storing s... Read more

A:System Restore isn't creating (or saving?) restore points properly

How often do you defrag and what program do you use for defragging?

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Hi guys,

I'm a newbie on this forum and this is my first thread. I just tried to create a restore point and ended up with this error:

Any help would be much appreciated.

A:System Restore- restore point creation error

By chance did you have a virtual machine running when you tried to create the restore point? If yes, try creating restore point without VM.

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I want to restore my system to yesterday but the only restore point shown is 6-month old system image restore point. Are there any hidden restore points? And, how can I access them?

A:System Restore only shows an Image Restore Point

Generally system restore will show all the available restore points.
This kind of thing can usually be explained away by the use of a system optimizing or cleaner type program wiping system restore points as they are created. Generally you should have one for every windows update you've applied at the very least.
If they are not there system restore has been disabled on your system. Or something, or someone has been removing them.

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How to do a System restore and Mark Restore point using Win. Vista ?

Is it same way to do as Windows XP ?


A:System restore and Mark Restore point using Win. Vista

Hi -

Vista System Restore - whether restoring or creation of a restore point -
START | type rstrui into the 'Start Search' box

Regards. . .



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I think I accidentally deleted some file on my c drive, and I am trying to restore the computer (Dell, microsoft 7) to its previous state but when i try to restore files it says that no restore points have been creaed.... open system protection. I can't open system protection. please help.

A:system restore does not work, cannot find a restore point

when I press ok nothing happens

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Running XPHome, and trying to fix my Security Center (disabled in Services and can't be enabled) . . . there doesn't appear to be a way to fix that problem so System Restore came to mind. I can invoke SR OK, pick an earlier point (there are several back through March 29), and click "Next" to get to a "Confirm Restore Point Selection" screen. Once there, I can click next dozens of times, or once and wait . . . and nothing happens.

Trying to restore from Safe Mode is even less productive. On startup, when selecting "no" to enter System Restore, I get a message saying that System Restore cannot be used, and that I should reboot and try again. That hasn't worked (I've tried).

The System Restore Service is running, so something else is preventing SR from advancing. What are my options here? (Or, while we're at it, what can I do about my disabled Security Center Service?)

Thanks for any ideas -

A:System restore not restoring from existing restore point

The Security Center being shut down is a possible symptom of Conficker being on your computer. Go to the link below to check your system.http://www.confickerworkinggroup.org/wiki/

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Hello everyone,

I need guidance regarding how to do system restore to a restore point 6 months or even older.

Os i have: xp sp3

Around about 2 weeks back i upgraded my system to sp3 for that i created system restore point.

But the problem is when i go to do system restore it doesn't show me the restoration point about 2 weeks old in the list rather it only shows and allows to new restore points created within 5-6 days and that does not include that restore point which i created b4 sp3 installation.

So.Is there a way to do system restore to a restore point 6 months or even older? does window allows it or any third party software which helps me retain older restore points?

Note-i tried doing it via safe mode also but didn't helped, also the space alloted for system restore is maxed out.

Thanks in advance

A:System Restore(How to restore to 6 months or more restoration point)

System Restore was never designed to reverse the major changes made by a a service pack update. For that reason all prior restore points will be deleted.

System Restore works best when used as soon as possible after a problem develops. On the few occasions I have used the feature it has always been with the most recent restore point. The further back you go the more likely the restore will fail or cause more problems than it solves. Going back 6 months is almost certain to fail. System Restore was never designed for that.

Why do you need to go back that far? There is almost certain to be a better way.

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twice I've run system restore, and it always says failed. System restore started,goes threw loading registry and then reboots, after desktop loads the failed dialog box comes up.
I've read previous posts, and checked services running and made sure System Restore is on with available space.
At one time I'd run a program called Smart V 2.0 from the Windows Club. It had disabled a lot of services to speedup boot time. I've since reinstalled default settings for the services. Could that have maybe screwed up the restore points?
My computer had froze, and that is when I tried the restore. Computer is running OK now, but would really feel better if I knew System Restore would work. Thanks for your time.

A:system restore fails saying possible corrupted restore point

Welcome to our Forum Johnf.

This tutorial by Capt.Jack Sparrow should help.

System Restore General Troubleshooting to Fix Issues

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In Windows 7, when does System Restore automatically create a Restore Point?

A:System Restore: When Does It Auto Create a Restore Point?

Basically it makes one weekly, during critical system events and before the installation of programs.

Read more here
System Restore: frequently asked questions - Windows Help

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In the Windows & Task Scheduler, I have the default SR set up to run daily at 12:00am and on system startup. The Last Run Result is always "The operation completed successfully. (0x0)" and the History shows "Task completed" for each scheduled restore. However when I go into System Restore and view the restore points, none of the scheduled ones are listed. All the ones listed are Manual (which I can do through Windows Button -> Create a restore point ->Create), Critical Update (post Windows Update) and Install (post software installation).

I've increased the Disk Space Usage parameter to make sure there's plenty of space. I've also tried entering the command manually in cmd.exe:

"%windir%\system32\rundll32.exe /d srrstr.dll,ExecuteScheduledSPPCreation"

It appears to run (no error message), but it still doesn't produce any restore point and when I check in Task Manager I never actually see the rundll32.exe process run with that Command Line.

A:Scheduled System Restore not producing restore point

Hello Skeltong, and welcome to Seven Forums.

You might see if using METHOD TWO to create a task that will create a restore point may work better for you. You can adjust for when to create to what you like instead.

System Restore Point : Create at System Startup

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I want to keep the disk image for a possible future system restore, but if the restore point listed as Windows Backup is deleted, will I be able to restore Windows from that image? In other words, is the disk image reliant on that specific restore point in order to function properly? Thanks in advance.

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Hi all,

So, this question sort of ties into this whole issue, but here's the basics. Currently my C drive, which has my Windows 7 install, can't/won't boot, but I have space on another partition (on another drive) where I could do a fresh Windows 7 install. If I were to do that, could I then somehow use System Restore from the new boot partition to tap into a Restore Point on the old one to put my PC back to the way it was before it got all screwed up? Or is that just wishful thinking on my part?


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Hello, I've had this problem forever now.

Whenever I try to create a restore point, Windows keeps telling me that it cant, saying

"System Restore Is not able to create a restore point.
Please restart the computer and run System restore again."

I've done this and it doesn't work. I've also checked to see if the Service is running normally, and that is running perfect.

Does anyone know how I can fix this?

A:Cannot Create Restore Point in System Restore

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I went into Task Scheduler and set System Restore to create a restore point every day at 12:01am. Under Conditions I cleared all the check boxes because I want SR to run regardless of whether computer is idle or not. I have been watching this for about 1 week and so far it's not created a single restore point. Under History there's no entry, and the tab itself actually say "History (disabled)", not sure what that's about. Suggestion?

A:System restore not creating restore point

Maybe something here will help: Change How Often System Restore Creates Restore Points in Windows 7 or Vista - How-To Geek

Says 7 and Vista but should apply to 8 as well.

I've not tried it yet though.

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Around 09:15 I set a new Restore Point 7/5/2010 5:00AM.
It did its thing and here's the resulting message.

"System Restore completed successfully. The system has been restored to 7/9/2010 9:11:16 AM. Your documents have not been affected."

How can this happen?

A:System Restore gives wrong restore point.

System restore would have selected the most recent restore point. Restore points are created automatically every day, and just before significant system events, such as the installation of a program or device driver.

If you want to restore to a specific restore point, you need to click the "Choose a different restore point" option. See this.

System Restore

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Regarding system restore.

I have an 80gig hd with 23gig spare. In system properties>system protection>automatic restore points, I have ticked drive C. Yet there are no restore points listed unless I do a manual restore point.

Is there another setting somewhere that may be inhibiting automatic creation of restore points?


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I've neglected this problem for too long and I would like to get it resolved.
My sys restore is not saving ANY restore points, except for the very last one that is an auto one created by Win7. If I manually create one, it will appear in the list for the time being, but if I shut down or restart the computer, it will not be there the next time I check. I'm running Win 7 64 pro . I have restore set to ON for the drive and have the space set to 15 gb . Any help would be appreciated .

A:System Restore is Not Saving Restore Points

It sounds like something you have in auto startup might be deleting restore points.
The first thing i would do is manually create a restore point.
Don't run any cleanup utilities before restarting.

Then restart the PC in Safe Mode and see if the restore point is still there.
Safe Mode

I tap the F8 key when the PC is booting to select Safe Mode when i want it.

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I'm just knowledgable enough to be REALly dangerous on a computer, this is my first forum entry and I tried to follow the "windows xp system restore" tutorial, but am still stuck.
Our 11 year old Vaio with xp-home has been running slower than dried mud lately. I've already defragged what is left of the free disc space (about 16%), and did a disc cleanup. Avast for the last 3 scans has found many files that cannot be scanned. About 2 weeks ago, they were all .dll files. I tried to do a speed test earlier tonight (for other reasons as we are on a satellite ISP and I need to find something faster), which failed due to "latency test error". I ran another Avast scan to see what changed and now there are many more files not able to be scanned, some .dll, .png and many others. Unfortunately I did not make screen prints of the results. and I did not run the 2 spyware downloads, or the 2 malware downloads noted in a different tutorial yet. I hoped I could make it all go away by restoring back in time. all of this is background info to get to my point; I read thru many tutorials and now forums, but need further help.
after working thru the tutorial, clicking and unclicking the turn off system restore button, I tried to do a system restore to a previous point in time and only see today's restore point bolded on the calendar. tried to go back to find other restore points but the calendar will not go back in time. I see no sense in restoring th... Read more

A:windows XP system restore point

The problem you are describing with system restore can sometimes be caused by malware. I'm moving this topic to the forum where we can begin addressing your computer problems.

Orange Blossom

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Hi everyone I am new to these forums and this is my first post . I am using windows 7 ultimate and system is running smoothly but I am afraid things can be messed up .

I could set a restore point in XP I couldn't find same function in windows 7

kindly help in this regard

thank you

A:How can I set a system restore point like I used to do in windows XP

Hello Asifnaz, and welcome to Seven Forums.

These may be able to help you.

System Restore Point - Create

System Restore

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OK, so a couple of days ago, my HP desktop crashed and then went through the whole System Recovery loop(I couldn't login to Safe mode, wouldn't let me past the System Recovery Screen). Well I backed up the entire C drive using Backup your files in the menu. Then it shows you all the file types it will back up; i.e photos, videos, e-mails and bookmarks. So I did that to an external hard drive and it comes out to 143GB.

Then I did a factory restore to my desktop.

Now comes my problem. I've been able to copy everything from the external hard drive using RecoveryMgr.exe which opens the WIM files and saves them to my C: hard drive under System Recovery Files. However it does not seem to work when it comes to putting in my old Thunderbird e-mails, contacts and such or in Firefox to restore my bookmarks, saved passwords. Any help would be most appreciative. Thank you

A:System Backup & Restore will not restore bookmarks or e-mails

A default Firefox installation has all configuration info including bookmarks in C:\Users\your user name\appdata\roaming\ in a folder called Mozilla.

A default Thunderbird installation has all configuration info including email in C:\Users\your user name\appdata\roaming\ in a folder called Thunderbird.

If those folders got backed up, you should be able to drill down to them and restore.

I assume you used Windows Backup to do the back up. I have no idea if it will include those folders.

If those folders from your original installation still survive, you can restore by copying them to the same location on new Thunderbird/Firefox installations, over-writing the new folders created when you reinstall Thunderbird/Firefox.

It's a good practice to back up the Mozilla and Thunderbird folders periodically as a matter of course--just as you would any other data.

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I did a full backup using vista backup and recovery centre onto a seagate 160gb usb drive.  The backup completed successfully so I rebuilt the machine.
On trying to rebuild, I run bakup and restore center and it cant even see the drive (it can see the C partition, the E (recovery) partition and nothing else.  It doesnt see the D (Data Partition) or the USB device.)
Tried copying it to the E partition and forcing it to use it but get  backup location not found which is mentioned elsewhere as an issue with mediaid.bin.
any ideas, i now have a shiny sparkly new machine with no data on it. 
The data is there in a compressed form but id much rather restore properly.
grateful for any help.

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So I tried posting my question on Microsoft Answers, to no avail. I kept getting an error message when clicking the submit button...don't know why though as they provided me with no details as to what could be causing the error :/

But my question is as my topic title states

(In Order of most recent restore points) This is the list that I encountered after selecting ‘Choose different restore point’ in the ‘Restore system files and settings’ window

Date and Time Description Type

4/3/2011 4:35:51 AM Installed COMODO Internet Security Install
4/3/2011 3:36:17 AM avast! Free Antivirus setup Install
4/3/2011 1:42:36 AM Windows Update Critical Update
4/3/2011 1:35:42 AM Windows Update Critical Update
4/2/2011 11:21:04 PM Windows Update Critical Update
4/2/2011 3:23:17 PM Windows Update Critical Update

Note: There are earlier restore points but the ones I listed above are the only points in which I hampered with the system myself..oops :/ :\

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A:Unsure which system restore point to use on Windows 7

I have to admit, just reading this lengthy post gave me a head ache.

Let's try to simplify this a little.

What has prompted you to need to do a System Restore?

If I've read this correctly, you want a restore point that will remove programs that you wish to delete, but you don't have restore points which will accommodate all of your needs. I can only suggest that you choose the one which will leave the programs that you want, and delete the remainder in the Control Panel.

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I just got done making a clean install on Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit on a SSD drive. Then I noticed that whenever I was doing a System Update, it would try to create a restore point for many minutes and then give up and proceed with the update. Well, the bottom line is, I can't create a system restore point. I've basically tried everything that I could find on the subject: 1. Made sure that Task Scheduler and Volume Shadow Copy services were on Auto and turned on; 2. Turned System Restore off in the System Protection tab, rebooted, and then re-enabled it on the C; 3. Ran sfc /scannow which gave the system a clean bill of health; 4. Tried using Macrium to make an image, which did nothing. I don't know what else to do. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

BTW, the error message that I get after a failed attempt to create a Restore Point is: The creation of shadow copy has timed out. Try this operation again. (0x81000101)

A:Windows 7 Cannot create System Restore Point

You haven't filled in the rest of your system specs.
System Info - See Your System Specs

This happened to me whenever I had the ASRock XFast USB utility installed. Try uninstalling that.

Another example of these "booster" programs is ASUS' "USB 3.0 Boost"

But if you don't have those kinds of board, but have any kind of "USB turbo-boosters" installed, you still should remove it. They don't get along well with the Volume Shadow Copy service.

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i attempted to use System Restore in Vista, but it ony shows 1 restore point which was done last night at 10 pm, and I need to go back two days prior to last night.

My system was working correctly two days ago, but don't have that option in vista. In XP you could choose a date, but vista does not have that? Can anyone help?

A:Windows Vista System Restore Point

if it shows only one restore point, then that is all you have. You wll not be able to go back two days.

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Using an OptiPlex 3020 which was upgraded to Windows 10 Pro from Windows 7 Pro.  I wanted to do a system restore to a previous date and a window appeared after the attempt stating the System Restore did not complete successfully and the computer's system files and settings were not changed.  When I attempted to restore to another restore point, the same window appeared.  All my attempts to restore to a previous point show the same window.  System restore was working fine since the free upgrade last year until now.  What do I need to do to get this System Restore procedure to work again?

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Hi,This is my first post on to bleeping computer. I think I have a virus problem, but it is not being detected. Please help.History: I downloaded a movie, it was .wmv file, which requested a license. I downloaded the license and the problem starts. Symantec antivirus said it was Backdoor.Tidserv!inf and was not able to clean up and hanged.Actions done1. Disconnected from net, got Malwarebytes current from another computer, ran it. It gave Trojan.FakeAlert, Trojan.DNS Changer Trojan.Agent I got these cleaned it using Malwarebytes2. My c and d drives wont open on double click, got this fixed by using Auto run Eater.3. Subsequently, I scanned my comp using Backlight Semantec antivirus SuperAntiSpyware Spybot Search and Destroy Spyware Gaurd - installed it Spyware blaster In safe mode using Malwarebytes Spybot Search and DestroyAll these I have done reading the various other topics of bleeping comp. All of the above say there are NO PROBLEMSCurrent Situation: I have the following problems1. My windows update service is running, but is set to "Notify me and dont install", I cannot do windows update2. Browser redirection to google.com if I go to windows update url, Event viewer confirms this, it has a failure message.3. Cannot go to sites www.malwarebytes.org or spybot site4. Cannot create a System Restore Point. Reboot and try again message appears5. I cannot format the machine due to official reasons.6. I cannot start w... Read more

A:Windows Update, System Restore Point,

Moving from HiJack This forum to Am I Infected as there are no logs. ~ OB

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This is the kind of mess that would make any techie cry - ID10T errors and PEBKAC all over. But your help would be sincerely appreciated.

I did not realise it but I had disabled my windows protection which automatically creates system restore points. Recently I managed to infect my OS with a rally of malware - one particularly nasty was Antimalware Doctor. I installed Avira for antivirus, comodo for firewall and spybot for additional protection (perhaps a little paranoid but I was kicking myself for being to lax up to that point). I try to avoid AV programmes, as nothing ever seems to work properly once they've been installed (see below) and they just interfere with every single application you try to install and messing with their function too.

Avira and Comodo started messing with my HP printer/scanner/copier software - every time I booted a Windows Installer window popped up looking for the installation disc for a damaged image, and would not go away. I inserted the disk but it did not resolve the issue. So I deleted all the files, removed them from the registry and prepared to install it from scratch. I tried installing it twice and both times it failed, and would automatically uninstall with the following error details:

MSIInstall () failed. X:\HP_Standard Port_Monitor.msi failed
Error Situation Code 03539016
Exit code: 1618

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A:How to restore without a system restore point?

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Ok so i tried downloading a program i definitely shouldn't have tried to download about a week ago and the results of that attempt have led my computer performance completely jacked...mostly in two aspects. My gaming is choppy as hell and so is video playback. Anyways, i have tried doing a system restore but when i open it there is only one system restore point listed from when I updated my system about 2 days ago. I have tried safe mode as a solution as it was suggested on some microsoft support page but that didnt change a thing. How do i restore to a point a week ago? Im so damn confused and im getting extremely aggitated.

A:Only one restore point...I NEED TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE!!!

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A:System restore with no restore point set

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Hello everyone, I'm new to this site, and hope someone can really help me. I homeschool my grandchildren and I can't afford to service my pc. I'm using HP vista home version, and I want to restore my pc to an earlier date than what is listed. Those dates are not earlier enough, the pc needs to be restored to two months ago, before it started acting up. Does anyone know how to that??My pc shuts down with the message: THERE WAS A FATAL ERROR AND WINDOWS HAS SHUT DOWN.PLEASE HELP,Thanking anyone and all in advance.fuzzy75Edit: Moved topic from XP to the more appropriate forum. ~ Animal

A:How to restore windows vista to an earlier restore point

You can't. Whatever restore points are available is all there is. In the future I strongly suggest you consider using Disk Imaging Software.

Disk Imaging software takes a "snapshot" of your drive as it exists at the time you create the image. You can then restore the entire image or any file(s) or folder(s) you choose. It is a virtually foolproof way of backing up your system and providing a safe haven in the event of a catastrophe that requires you to blow away your system partition and restore it to a previous state. It also allows you to "test" various software and be confident that you have a the ability to return to the prior state any time you choose.
I use Acronis True Image. It is the best of breed, but it isn't free. The best free alternative is Macrium Reflect.

1) I create an image of my system partition once a week to a second hard drive and keep the 2 or 3 most recent images. I also image my other partitions about once a month. I always enable "verify image" in the options. It takes a little longer, but insures a valid image.
2) I also create an image before performing any drive level function (ie, changing the size of a partition) or making any significant change to the OS (installing a service pack, upgrading IE, etc). Also sometimes before installing new software.
3) Images may be created on any medium (cd, dvd, external drive, etc). For obvious reasons they should not be stored on the same drive you are imaging. The be... Read more

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I wondered. if i created a restore point on Windows 7 Home 32bit then updated to Windows 7 ultimate 64bit would that restore point restore Windows back to the home edition?

A:will a restore point restore windows to previous version?

Quote: Originally Posted by MonsterKiller


I wondered. if i created a restore point on Windows 7 Home 32bit then updated to Windows 7 ultimate 64bit would that restore point restore Windows back to the home edition?

Putting it simple No you would end up overwriting the 32 bit so it would not even be there.

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Here's my sad story. Awoke yesterday to startup repair reporting a root error that it could do nothing with. Long story short the only option I had was to do a factory restore. UGH! But really, I didn't lose to much I care about and the constant processes bog-down of IE is no longer there. I have reinstalled all essential software and want to create a backup.
The backup will not complete with a disk is full (0x80070070) error. Same error with creating a restore point. Getting frustrated.

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Hi, I had critical errors occur that kept me from logging onto my windows account (the only profile on my computer was the admin account) on my 32bit vista home premium install. This forced me to do a complete wipe and restore from the startup menu and I made a backup when prompted to in the process of the complete restore. I have this backup folder on my external hd but I can't seem to restore the files from it. I found some tutorials on the forums about restoring from a "backup set" but my backup can't be found using the backup and restore center. The folder on my hd is called "G:\MINWINPC\Backup Files 2010-11-18 182844" and I can't seem to figure out how to restore from it.

Issue solved.

A:System restore backup files won't restore

Hi convert,

Welcome to Vista Forums!

Here's an article on the restore procedure: Restore Backup Files

Just to make sure you're doing it right. It's a selective restore of a full or selective backup (not a complete restore of a complete backup) - but since you did a full backup it matches your process closer than a complete restore would.

Back up and restore: frequently asked questions

I also found the following (but don't know if it's true or not):

1. After starting "Backup and Restore Center"
2. I selected "Advanced Restore"
3. I wasn't asked for an Administrator password....maybe because my account is an administrator account.
4. Selected "Files from a backup made on a different computer"
5. In the Dialog stating "Select the location of the backup to restore", select "Hard disk, CD or DVD......"
6. Under the drop-down box, select your drive/partition and continue
7. If there are any backups on your drive, it will show a list of them.
8. In my case, it did show a backup but in backup location, it will show "Backup location is not available."
9. I was frustrated but then I somehow just selected that backup(yes....even though it said that the Backup location is not available"
10. and pressed "Next"
11. Guess what....not error!!!!!
12. A window showed up asking me whether I wanted to perform comp... Read more

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If I create a system image and then periodically create full backups of all drives would I be able to recover the system to the last backup? I am thinking I could recover from the system image and then recover using the backup.

A:Fully restore system using Backup & Restore

Yes. Also use the previous versions feature at any time to restore a file several versions back. This works even without setting up windows backup, as restore points also create backups of your files. But windows backup will offer even more on days the backup is created. I have mine set like this:

2 internal hard drives, one is main, other is backup. Windows backup runs to it every 2 weeks and does a system image and backs up all my files. An external hard drive works well too, but then is hard to have on a schedule since you need to remember to plug it in.

I still recommend having a backup external hard drive as well, with your users folder dragged onto it just in case.

Just like time machine on apple. Of course microsoft removed this feature in windows 8, because they like to screw up good things.

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When I try to back up and restore (my files) it does not complete. I get the message disk full. I tried to uncheck the (shut off and delte all files from system restore) but that does not help. When I check the amount of space available on the D drive, it shows as full, but system restore seems to work; any suggestions?

A:Backup and restore (Not System Restore) Not Working

What are you using to backup your system?

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