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Q: Questions re: backup and system image

I did my first backup using Windows 7 built-in backup and restore last week. Chose to let windows decide what to backup and also do a system image (basically the default settings). It took quite a long time, almost 4 hours.

Tonight it did its weekly scheduled backup and another sytem image. Since it only copied any new files that part went fast but the system image took a long time, almost 1.5 hours.

When I look at manage space the system image is using 124GB. This seems huge. I thought it should be maybe 20GB or so. Data files being backed up are 71GB. Other files are 4GB for a total of almost 200GB.

This is a relatively new computer so why is the system image so large? Is there a way to verify that it should be that large? Will it always take so long to do the system image?

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A: Questions re: backup and system image

The image file also contains you data if it is on the same partition. Also you have done two images backups and this is reporting both of them. Windows sets aside a certain amount of space (I think about 20% of your backup drive) and keeps as many images as it can in this space. So the actual image size is about 60MB which is about the same as mine. You might want to read this tutorial Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup by Brink.

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Ok, I have read and read and cannot find the answer.

I have a system image that was saved to a maxtor one touch ext HD via USB. This was created using W7 image making system. I am trying to copy the image to my new HDD (internal) 1TB. The problem is when I go to recovery>advanced options>restore from image and reboot, the PC cannot find the image. I can click advanced options and search for a driver and actually see the drive and the image folder/zips but W7 cannot detect it. I have also copied this image to a internall HDD because I thought it may be the USB. I have not changed any BIOS settings as I am using W7 on the 1TB HDD and trying to restore to that from either the Dnetouch or the F:internal HDD. Neither times will it find the image.
Questions
1. Do I need to use an alternate program like paragon or clonezilla
2. When the image is saved, it is the name of my pc. Example: Fesktop64-PC. Does it need to be in a folder or the image be a specific name? Ive seen WindowsImageBackup as a possiblity.

What do I need to do? Seems the hangup is that when trying to restore, windows just does not see the image?

I know this has been covered some, but I could not find specific answers

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A:System Image Backup Questions and Cannot be found

If the image was created with Windows 7 imaging then the image must be called WindowsImageBackup and must be a root folder in the backup drive. You need to boot your PC either from a Windows 7 repair disk or the Install disk and select repair my computer. From there you have the option to restore your computer.

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Hi
I want to use the "windows system image backup tool" to an external hard drive which is a backup that already contains
other folders from several computers that I need to keep.
Ive never done this B4 so these are baby questions ; )
Question:
Will the image creator erase any of that info already stored on the external drive if I backup the system image to that drive?
Question:
is the windows image creator a good tool to do this (any problems with it that are known)?

is there some better image backup creator? if so which and why?

any help appreciated

A:Questions about creating a system Image backup - a bit coinfused

While I do not know about Windows 10 backup/restore utilities, I do know Macrium Reflect [free and pay-for]. MR will not delete anything on your ext HD unless you "tell it to do so" via its purging choices. I recommend two ext HDs getting your OS and data partitions backups.

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Hopefully this is the correct catagory for this..

I created an image for backup purposes and have 2 things I'm curious about.

1st. My disk 0 has Vista 64 as C: and Windows 7 as F: when I created the image I had to keep both partitions as part of the image.. Does this mean that if I want to restore from the image BOTH Vista and windows 7 will be restored from that image?

I guess it isn't a big deal but a choice would have been nice... Other than seperate hard disks for that option...

2nd. I wanted to look at the backup specs document, however access is denied. Is that the standard or is there something I am missing here. I am the only user and admin security.

Thanks...

A:2 questions about image backup

1. Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
http://www.sevenforums.com/performan...up-anyone.html post #6

2. Try with this: Take Ownership Shortcut

cheers

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I used macrium reflect free version, to backup my present image to an external usb hard drive. The present drive is a Samsung 500GB. drive with about 27-28 GB. used on it will it be alright to install my backup image on my new, Intel 240GB SSD. drive when it arrives today? or will I suffer any performance loss due to the new drive being smaller? I have a retail version disc of Win 8.1 would I be better off using it to install a clean fresh install on the new SSD? Thanks for all opinions/advice!

A:backup image questions

There should be no performance hit due to the size factor, however, I believe when deploying an image to an SSD drive that it has to be 'aligned' for optimum performance.

If you do a web search for SSD alignment you will get lots of info. Also try searching for 'Macrium SSD alignment'

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I recently needed to do an image restore with windows 7 for the first time using the built in program. I got a new, larger Hard drive for my laptop and just wanted to restore my system from an image i had on a Usb drive. Unfortunately the restore failed and after some googling i found that some people were saying that you could only restore to the same drive the image was made from. I have a hard time believing this because it would just make the program useless in the case of a drive failure, and this is one of the main reasons for making a backup in the first place. Some people were saying that the distination drive/partition just needed to be the same size as the drive (or partition) the image was made from. I didn't try a resize, i just did a new reinstall (which is a pain). Just for future reference, has anyone heard any of this before? Should i be able to just restore to a new larger drive without any problems. I was thinking maybe this was some kind of anti-piracy precaution. Not sure

thanks for shedding any light on this.

A:windows image backup questions

I personally use Macrium Reflect for my backup/imaging for system drive... Few days ago I needed to restore the system to another disk (640GB) that's smaller than my current disk (1TB), and the restore went completely trouble free, and it was over the network... So, I don't know how you get this issue, but you can always try 3rd party imaging tools. Btw, Macrium Reflect is free for personal use.

I do have an image I created using Windows's Image backup... I haven't had the time to try and restore using it, so I don't know on that that front...
zzz2496

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hi

can any of you please explain what a disk image is? i gather it's different from just copying everything from one hd to another, thru windows' "my computer" window.

does a disk image copy everything over exactly as it is on the old hd (for example, do installed programs on the old hd end up as installed in the new location?)?

is a disk image the best way to back up a hd?

is it possible to copy pieces of a hd to a cd-r (i know there's a space limitation on cd's) & copy it back to another hd, or is that not really the same as a disk image.

also -- are there any good freeware/shareware utilities out there for this?

sorry for such a basic, goofy question.

thanks!
 

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I recently had problems with BSOD. I was able to fix the underlying cause, but this got me nervous. So I am thinking of starting a program of periodically creating system images of my laptop - both the C & D drives - so that I could restore my system in the event of hardware failure. Make sense?
 
I have some questions to make sure that I understand the underlying System Image & Repair disk process, & also when I would use a Windows 7 ISO image.
 
(1) Am I correct that when I restore from a system image of both C & D drives, that both drives are **totally** recreated?
 
(2) Will I still have a legal copy of Windows 7 when I restore using the system image?
 
(3) Should I make sure that I have a repair disk before I restore from system image? If so, why?
 
(4) Is it necessary to periodically recreate a repair disk? Or once a repair disk is created, it is good for any future repair that may be needed?
 
(5) There are sites where one can download a Windows 7 ISO image.   
    (i) Am I correct that restoring from this image just installs Windows 7 and no other programs? 
    (ii) Will I still have a legal copy of Windows 7 when I restore using a Windows 7 ISO image? 
    (iii) When would I restore using a Windows 7 ISO image rather than restoring from a System Image?
    (iv) What is the recommended site to download a Windows 7 ISO image?
 
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A:Windows 7 - System Image, Repair Disk, & ISO Image Questions

Users have (at least) two ways to go to overcome those unforeseen problems that occur.
 
a.  Make clones of the hard drive reflecting the O/S.
 
b.  Use backup software which creates a file which can be restored, item for item.
 
I have done both at some time...right now, I prefer making a clone of my O/S (dual-boot) partitions...while backing up data files on extra hard drives I have lying around.  User preference determines whether a user backs up...or creates a cloned image.
 
You might take a look at Macrium Reflect, a program that seems to do each pretty well.
 
Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download - http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
 
Those ISO files of Windows 7...are covered by this pronouncement here at BC:  Recommending ISOs of Windows Recovery Discs or pre-made ISOs of WinPE-BartPE - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic382841.html .
 
In addition to being illegal...those .iso files...or any file NOT obtained from a legal, authorized source...are subject to reflect code, errors, malware...or something else that the user has not bargained for, IMO.  If I were a malware misanthrope...that would be my favorite vector...giving an unknowing public something "for free" that they have no desire to legitimately obtain.
 
Louis

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Hi

From times to times I load my disk image backup from win7 system and install the new programs/drivers i was using and save a new backup.

I usually to do this by backing up my C: drive, but this turn to my surprise, windows for some reason wants to backup C and D, is it possible to pick a drive for it to make a system image?

I'm mean, this is probably my 8th updagrade to the backup. I've always backed up from C: -> D:, which are on the same hdd, and now it suddenly needs to backup C and D to create a system image .

A:system image backup - how does windows pick the drives to backup?

Hello vbkun.





Will you please post a snip/screen-shot of the entire disk management drive map so we can see what you have going on.

In the Windows start menu right click computer and click manage, in the left pane of the "Computer Management" window that opens click disk management and post a snip of that.

How to Post a Screenshot in Seven Forums

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Hello,

Before I re-imaged my laptop, I made sure to do a backup of personal files + a system image in case things went wrong.

The imaging was successful, and now, the new Win7 OS recognizes the old backup as a backup from another computer (as it should).

However, is it possible to manage this old backup? (manage => edit)

Now that I don't need the old system image, I would prefer to get rid of it ... plus, I created a backup for my current image so there's quite a bit of space used by backup files..

Thanks

A:Managing a backup from a previous image (eg. deleting system image)

Should be able to just delete it, but more detail is needed for the best answer.

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Can someone tell by these jpgs if the 6/28/10 "backup" is just a user files backup or a complete System Image Backup with user files backup included which I think is my default b/u setup now ?

Thanks....TR

A:Is this a general backup or system IMAGE & BACKUP

The items in the right pic could be moved to a flash drive or burned to CD. You will have to find them.

The Flash is easy to redownload. The Windows Security updates will just download and install again.

I'll check what my Sys Restore looks like and be back in a moment for the left picture.
I want to be sure.

My last Back up System Restore looks like yours. So this is defintely a System Restore point you are showing.
They changed the wording a bit on Win7 compared to XP.
If you need to go back that far you can try it.
Transfer what you can.

Mike

Yes System Image.

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Hi all
When i create a new system image on the same drive as an old one am i right in thinking the old one is overwritten because when i try to restore from an image i only have the option to recover from the lasest saved image.If this is the case why is there an option to delete older system images to save space on your disk.Ithought it would work more like system restore and use date stamps to restore ur system
Any help gratefully recieved thankyou

A:system image a few questions

Whenever I do a system image on an external hard drive I always rename it to include a date/time. Otherwise, if I create a new system image it will overwrite the previous default WindowsSystemImage. If memory serves, on the occasions I forget to rename an earlier image I'll get a prompt that older images might be overwritten, do I want to proceed.

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Hi, I am trying out windows 7 backup, hoping at last that I won't need a 3rd party backup solution. So far so bad! My first problem is how ridicilously slow the backup is, but this has been discussed at length elsewhere. My second problem is the backup stalls when I try to backup a folder which I know has got various bits of malware in. I am an IT pro and use the files in this folder for testing purposes. OK fair enough I guess, although I think the backup should handle this event a bit more elegantly. So I've zipped and password protected the offending files to hide them from the AV (security essentials by the way) The final problem which I just can't understand is that when I try to create an image of my system drive, backup wants to add my D drive (which is purely a data drive) to the image. My D drive is huge and I don't want to include it in a system image. I keep my system drive lean and mean for exactly this purpose but now I can't back it up because the total size of C and D drives combined exceed the capacity of my backup drive. I know for a fact that the D drive has no consequence to the system boooting or operating, I have disconnected it and windows boots up just fine. In computer management the D Drive is not showing up as a system drive, so why does windows think it is? And why isn't there a power user mode wher I can choose exactly what I want in a system image, I understand you're trying to make windows easy to use for the average Joe, bu... Read more

A:Windows 7 Backup - System image includes non system disk

I suggest you check your hard drive jumpers. There should be only one Active drive. If you disconnect the data partition the Active partition will be changed. We are not clear why the partition will be Active partition when you connect it.
You may open Disk Management, set the 100MB system served partition or your Windows partition as Active and check the result again.Arthur Xie - MSFT

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Hello,
I did a system restore and the health of my SSD drive dropped to 98 %, performance is still 100 %.
According to HD sentinel there is no action needed.
Did have a search about that and it seems that system restore is the reason.

I have Easeus to do home installed, if I make an image of my system would it be enough to reset the whole thing on a new SSD if it happens to die, although all my software is installed on an internal HD, except for the Antivirus.

Now I suppose system restore in the case of an SSD is a bad thing to do, but if I have to restore through Easeus, will it degrade further ?

If it is, making all sorts of system backups does not make sense, not even a system repair disc.

Did a search and some people say that it?s OK to do system restore on an SSD, others advise against it, this is all very confusing.

Maybe next time a normal HD !

I would appreciate any comment about that subject and I thank you in advance.

A:SSD, System restore and Backup questions

That makes no sense at all. System restore could not possibly do any kind of damage to the physical device, all it does is overwriting some configurations, the registry and some files with a backup copy, operations that are harmless to any HD. Do you have any reason to believe that's the root cause?

What you're seeing is a direct consequence of normal usage of pretty much any thing in life: things wear out after normal use for a period of time. It's very difficult to attribute those degradations to any concrete action you could perform on the thing, but the repeated use will over time degrade it, and is expectable to be so.

I would also question how reliable is that "98%" (or the 100% before it). Do you know exactly how the program reached to those numbers? How accurate are they really?
Ultimately, until the disk begins experiencing troubles (like bad sectors or some noticeable speed degradation), there is no reason to worry about. A backup is always a good thing to have handy, just in case, but I don't see any reason to be paranoid about it.

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Can some one tell me what the differences are between system image, system restore and system backup.

Also I made a system image and stored the file on an external drive and can't find the image file. Can someone tell me how I can find the file - did a search and organized the drive by date and could not find the file.

A:Difference between system image, system rest and backup

System Image is a copy of your hard drive
System restore copies your OS
Back up and restore copies your personal doucments etc

On my system the file is windows image and backup.

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Hi everyone.

I want to make an upgrade from Windows 7 32-bit to Windows 7 64-bit.

The first question, I have 2 internal hard drives (C and D) and 2 external hard drives, when I do a backup of system image, which hard drives will be included in the backup?

The second question, is it possible to do a backup of system image on Windows 7 32-bit and restore it on Windows 7 64-bit? Will it cause issues?

A:Couple questions about system image

Hi and welcome to TSF are you using windows back up Backup and Restore - Microsoft Windows.
I would say no to the system image as the image would over write the 64 bit, better to just back up your data,music,photos etc and you can choose where you back up to
32-bit and 64-bit Windows: frequently asked questions

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I made a system image with the built in feature of Windows 7 following this tutorial Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup

Today I made another but the first one made was erased and replaced with the new one. According to the tutorial Windows automatically erases older images once they take up more than 30% of the space on the back up location. I only had the one image on there and it was no where near 30% of the space. Why was my older image erased?

A:Creating system image questions.

Welcome

It seems that it only makes one and deletes the other, always.

In any event this is what you do.

Make a system image, now. Put it on an external hard drive and forget about it.. Every month make a new one and keep it on the Hard Drive in the computer.

As time goes by you may need to use the image, because of a virus or your hard drive went down, either way you cannot or should not use the one on the internal. Wow, you have problems. Wait you made one and put it away.

You can use this for image.
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/

Good Luck

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Usually, I store my Windows 7 Backup Files on a large internal disk that i reserve more or less for Backups. From time to time, I also create additional copies on external USB disks that I store safely/remotely in the safe of my bank. For backing up my files/folders, I select the "Let Window choose (recommended)" option (Windows Backup will then include in the Backup a System image). I observed that when changing the destination of my file/folder backups from the internal disk to the external disk (and vice versa), Windows Backup always created on the new destination  a new Full Backup and a new Backup Set for my File/Folder backups (even though a previous Backup set was already existing on that destination).But..... When clicking on "Create A system Image" in the left pane of the Backup And Restore Control panel, to create a System Image Backup of my C partition, and when changing the backup destination from the internal disk to the external disk (or vice versa), things become more complex and I am not sure what is really happening.   a) On one side, when changing the backup destination, the Backup process takes long time and I have therefore the (right? or wrong?) impression that Windows Backup is creating a Full Backup of the C partition.  b) On the other side, after completion of the Backup,  I see in the "WindowsImageBackup" Folder  of the destination disk only one si... Read more

A:Is it really an incremental System Image Backup that the Windows 7 version of Windows Backup has created?

Hi there,
1. Microsoft states that the backup function was designed as first backup always full and subsequent backups are always incremental. http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproperf/thread/a413ba37-2cde-4e4f-b23b-e5adab4c8b2dWhen you change the backup destination, the backup wizard will let you chose backup items again and that would make the system believe this is a new Backup Plan.
2. Windows 7 use vhd file for image back and support attach vhd file directly (it’s a great feature). As you have noticed, the folder with name "Backup YYYY.MM.DD hhmmss" is one copy of your image back (full backup with one vhd file). Not sure how can you find several image backup restore info in WinRE, did you use this external drive for image backup for another computer (or save image backup to different partitions)? When you try to run image backup to the same drive for second time, you may receive a warning “Any exiting system images for this machine might be overwriteen.”http://cid-9c88b7cb6fa32a48.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/2010-01-27-ImageBackup.png
Actually, older data will be moved to the shadow copy storage area if it’s available (NTFS formatted internal or external hard disks supports Volume Shadow Copy), Network share and optical media, on the other hand, do not support shadow copy. Therefore only one system image per computer can be stored at a time (as the .vhd file). Any newer backup created will replace the... Read more

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Hello,

I am new to the forum, and looking for some guidance. I want to back up what is on my laptop to an external hard drive, and what I am wondering is am I able to backup programs? i.e.: Adobe Acrobat 8 Standard, etc. as I do not have the install discs for some programs.

A:Basic windows 7 system backup questions

Your best bet is to make an image of the operating system.

There are free programs that will do it.

Aomei is very good ( standard version is free).

AOMEI Backupper: Data Backup and Restore Software for PC, Laptop and Server

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Hello,

I am new to the forum, and looking for some guidance. I want to back up what is on my laptop to an external hard drive, and what I am wondering is am I able to backup programs? i.e.: Adobe Acrobat 8 Standard, etc. as I do not have the install discs for some programs.

A:Basic windows 7 system backup questions

Your best bet is to make an image of the operating system.

There are free programs that will do it.

Aomei is very good ( standard version is free).

AOMEI Backupper: Data Backup and Restore Software for PC, Laptop and Server

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Hello,

I was considering reformatting my HDD in my laptop. Here are my questions/concerns. I am also going to be switching from windows xp home to windows xp pro.

1. If I copy the entire contents of my HDD to a external HDD drive, and don't like the new install, can I remove the laptop HDD and put it in an external case, hook that and the back up external hdd to a second computer and do a direct copy back to the drive and restore everything to its original standings?

2. I don't have the installation CD's for my computer , and HP charges about fifty dollars, and this program drivermax is supposed to download save all your drivers for reinstallation after a format. Anyone have experience with this program for backing up their drivers? I can download the drivers from HP website as a backup precaution.

3. Is XP pro worth going to the trouble of a reformat?

Will post more if I remember, thanks in advance for any ideas

CN

A:System backup, recovery, and drivermax questions

^^Bump,

CN

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hi, i've backup hdd image using built-in backup & restore utility and moved the backup image to usb hdd. just so happened that win7 Ult 64-bit got corrupted last night and i've been trying to re-image since, without success.

the issue is the restore utilit couldn't find my backup image file. and the odd thing is it doesn't allow me to browse to the image file but instead having to connect to "network". where should i copy the backup image file to so that the restore utility can have access to it and re-image the hdd?

i've chosen advance recoery options, and asked to reboot. have tried all that i can find on the web on how to re-image and they all seems pretty easy but somehow it doesn't work for me.

if reboot, it will load recovery console and says windows cannot find a system image on this computer. attach the backup hard disk or insert the final dvd from a backup set and click retry. alternatively, close this dialog for more options.

i've re-installed win7 and trying to restore to the image i created but still having same issue.

any pointers?

tia

A:where to put backup system image?

Hello Foxxkat,

The problem happened when you moved the saved backup from it's original location to another location. When you do this, the backup will no longer be able to be restored from.

You might see if you may be able to manually extract any needed files from the system image backup using the tutorial below though.

System Image - Extract Files Using Disk Management

Hope this helps,
Shawn

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it says i need a media of at least 1 gb, my cd's are 700 mb: do they make a cd or dvd that's at least 1gb ? can i use blank dvd's ? i made a system repair disk ok; do i need a system image backup, since i have the repair disk ? i don't have a copy of windows/7; thanks

A:system image backup ?

Blank DVD's are 4.7gb. I just backed up a new Acer (Win 7) lap top and it took 4 DVD's

BG

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I have just created a System Image Backup on my "slave" drive which I had done once before. When I look at the "WindowsImageBackup" folder it is dated prior to my last backup. Does that mean that I didn't get a new image or that it replaced my previous image but didn't change the date?

Also can I move the image to a flash drive or an external HD and restore from there?

A:System Image backup

The correct date of your last image taken should be on the subfolder within WindowsImageBackup.

If in doubt, you can attach the .vhd files in Disk management to browse and edit their contents: Virtual Hard Disk - Create and Attach VHD

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I decided eventually that I should probably download (whilst it's available) the free Win10 offered by MS.
My PC is not running perfectly by any means & I now think it could take some time to properly sort out the problems.
Maybe an Install of Win10 will help but maybe it won't even install.
 
So I figure I should at least have a backup & system image of what I have now before attempting the Win10 install.
Problem right there. Every time I try I have the same message not enough disc space I I think on C ).
 
Here's what I have:
OS  =  Win7 (64) Home Ed.
C drive: (vssadmin list shadowstorage), on 240Gb SSHD.  Used 114Gb, free 123Gb.
I think somewhere there is a dedicated 100GB section which might not be available ???
The HD I intended to hold the backup has 381Gb free.
 
What is the simplest solution, suggestions, please

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A:Is a backup the same as a system image?

A System Image creates an exact copy of the contents (all files, folders, system settings, etc) on the entire hard drive which can be stored on an external hard drive. System Image is intended for a major catastrophe such as when your computer will no longer boot or severe malware infection.A backup copies your personal files such as those in My Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos. Backup is intended for for restoring items on a small scale in case you accidentally overwrite or delete them.Backup and Restore in Windows 7How to Backup your files in Windows 7How to Restore files from backup in Windows 7What is a system image in Windows 7How to create a Windows system image to back up your programs, system settings, and files in Windows 7How to create a Windows system image in Windows 7 and Windows 8

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I am running Windows 7 Ultimate. I do a complete system image backup each week to an external hard drive. However each new backup seems to overwrite the previous backup. Is there any way to keep several generations of the image backups?

A:System Image Backup

From all I have seen and heard, the Win7 Backup/Restore is not yet ready for prime time. A lot of people had problems with it. And that could be fatal the day you need to recover your system. I would recommend you use a proven program for that. My current favorite is free Macrium because it is really efficient and it works. Here is a little tutorial that I have posted. You'll see it is childs play to use it.
Image your system with free Macrium

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Hello all,
 
Some time ago, I cloned my 128 GB ssd with Win 8 installed on it to a 2 TB hdd for the purpose of having a bootable backup copy of my ssd. So, now I have 128GB of drive space on the 2TB hdd devoted to a copy of Win 8, while the rest is a partition for various data, games and programs. Now I want to update the Win 8 copy on the 2TB drive. If I understand correctly, cloning again will wipe out the data partition on the 2TB drive. I'd like to not lose that data, so I was wondering if a recently made system image backup of the 128 GB ssd can be used on the 2TB drive Win 8 install without wiping out the data partition. Thanks, for your time.

A:System image backup

In theory it could, as you are asked which partitions and/or hard drives you don't want to format, but I've never tried it the way you want to do it and I have a feeling that you wouldn't even be permitted to choose to not format that data partition, but even if you did, I would consider it risky, assuming you don't have all that data backed up elsewhere.
 
I just took a few minutes to think about this a bit more.
Seems to me that I remember wanting to do something similar, so what I did was put the Windows System Image onto the data partition, knowing that Windows couldn't possibly overwrite the image itself while restoring it, thus the data partition would be safe, but it didn't work.
I got a notification to the effect of,
Windows cannot use this image as it is on the drive that needs to be formatted in order to restore the image.
Those are my words, but you get the picture.
 
In short, I don't think there is any way for you to do it, but I'll keep it in the back of my mind and advise you, if I figure out another way.

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In the past I have always used Acronis True Image to create a System Image. However, I have two issues with Acronis, firstly it is not cheap at around 40 ($60 US) per computer and secondly it has more bells and whistles than a Thailand Taxi - consequently I have only ever used about 10% of its functionality.

User data files are no longer an issue because online Cloud storage is either free or very inexpensive. It works well, uses minimal system resources and can be setup to happen seamlessly in the background. So for a user to become physically involved in making backups of data files is quickly becoming a thing of the past. For me it is already a thing of the past.

So the question now is - What is the best solution for creating a System Image Backup in W8.1?

Not to be confused - I am referring specifically here to a "Full System Image Backup" and not to the quick and easy W8.1 Recovery Drive, which is a simple task for which one only needs a relatively low-capacity USB.

Most computers today are delivered with the next-to-useless manufacturers "Recovery Partition". After using a computer for a period of time, who in their right mind would want to revert the machine back to the system state in which it was delivered. I have yet to be convinced that these "Recovery Partitions" are anything but an easy way for Support to provide so-called support while the machine is still under warranty. Just try it - log a support call with a manufacturer wh... Read more

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Has anyone found a system image backup utility in Windows 8 Customer Preview ? I have found some discussion of this that says go to Control Panel / Restore. I can not find that option. I do see Control Panel / Recovery which has system Refresh and Reset options.

A:System Image backup

Hi bnc123 and welcome to Eight Forums. You need to open control panel in large or small icons view to see it. Click at the top right to change the view.

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Hi all,I have a question that I hope is not a foolish one.I do a system image backup every month in windows 7.
It also asks me if I want a system repair disc which I did the first time.Do I have to make a new repair disc everytime I do a backup.Thanx,Tony.

A:System image backup

When your computer won't boot, a System Repair Disc is used to bring you into the System Repair Options to perform a system restore, perform an image restore, open a command prompt, or repair the startup environment. It is independent of updates and service packs. Therefore, you do not need to create a System Repair Disc every time you make a system image backup. Also, if you have the Windows 7 Installation DVD, it will work as a System Repair Disc.
 

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I have just upgraded and am backing up my system image to an external drive. I've noticed that the path showing is
Control Panel> All Control Panel Items> Backup and Restore (Windows 7). I don't understand that path, when I'm dealing with Windows 10. The path is what Windows Backup set without any action from me.

Am I doing something wrong?

A:First system image backup: is this right?

That's OK. You are fine. You didn't do anything wrong.
There is another way to do the same thing..............
Control Panel > File History.
Both Backup and Restore (Windows 7) and File History lead you to the same place...... to run system Image backup.

By the way, you system image backup is store in the ext hdd under WindowsImageBackup folder.

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Now that my machine is purring I am interested in a good system image that is bootable.  I will perform this image on an internal HD using a docking station and put the HD away until the next image.  I have looked at several programs that perform these images but just read this BC tutorial for using the Win 7 backup/image.  Very informative and I'm willing to try it.  I also read a couple of the other suggested tuts as well.  I do have a couple of questions if someone can answer them.  
 
1. Can the drive where the image is stored be partitioned to use for backing other data or should it be dedicated to the Win 7 image backup?
2. Will a new image overwrite the old?
3. I want to make sure that the image will be able to boot and replace the system on the main system drive if necessary.  
 
Thanks for any information provided.

A:Win 7 backup/system image ?

The free [email protected] Disk Image software i talk about in your other thread would do just what you need. Save full HDD back up as single file & store other files on the same external HDD. Make sure the drive your going to backup to is bigger than the one your backing up because if not how would a full back up fit.

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I perform an incremental back-up every day using the built-in backup program.

How often would you do a whole system image? I was thinking of only doing that every few months or less. Each image would be 80GB.

A:Backup of system image?

Unless you make a lot of changes, backup once in 15 days.

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I have had win 10 on my laptop 5 months or so being upgraded from win 8, 8.1 etc. In this time I have not been able to backup to my (eSATA) external HD. I need to do some program work so I want to back up before going ahead. Before someone says use this or that backup program to accomplish the backup. My desire is to have win 10 able to function properly before taking another road.

When I tried my back up this morning it looked like it was running through the whole process but in the end it said failed to backup, giving code 0x807800C5 . My backup location has 3tb so there is plenty of room for it.

Thanks for any info
Terry

A:Can not Backup or system image, Win 10

Hello Terry,

Can you post a screenshot of your disks and partitions using the disk management window? I am wondering if you might have some partitions that are causing problems with the backup such as multiple EFI system partitions.

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Does anyone know: is the actual backup image created during a system image backup available to be viewed in a directory tree structure anywhere ?

My interest stems from having executed the backup (successfully) onto an external drive from within a 2 500 GB disk RAID 0 environment, comprising several partitions striped across the disks.

Would the disk 0 image have been copied in its entirety, or would all system info as striped across both disks have been copied ?

Likewise, what will the restore operation actually write back, and to where ?

A:System Image Backup

Welcome!

I am by no means the expert on RAID, but I know a bit.

I believe it depends on whether you have a hardware RAID controller or you are using a mirror from Windows. If you have a hardware array, the OS views it as one drive. If not, then you might run into issues.

Hope someone else can come along and correct/add to this.

~JK

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I have an HP Notebook 15-ba020nr that I purchased 8/2016.  Windows 10 OS.  I ran into a problem doing a System Restore and Technical Support walked me through a number of things but in the end I was told I needed to do a System Recovery.  I am doing that now.   I asked Technical support if After doing the System Recovery, if i could restore a System Image Backup that I have on an external HD (USB) that I created in September.  I created the System Image from: Control Panel > System and Security > Backup and Restore (Windows 7) > Create a System Image.  They said "no" I could not do that.  I really would like to be able to do that because I do not want to manually reinstall all my software (I mean the software I purchased later--not the pre-instaled software).  I thought the System Image  backup was just for this purpose. So, I am asking if I can restore a System Image Backup after I do a System Recovery?  If not, an explanation would be nice.  Thank you in advance. Susie

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Hello,

* Before I begin I will add that I am aware of the excellent tutorials available here and will be using them =) *
I need to migrate to a hard drive that already has windows 7 HP 64bit on it. I do not however want the registry information and all of the drivers and bloat-ware that reside in the destination HDD.
To my understanding I will just need to boot a system image of my old HDD on the destination HDD.

I need some confirmation that my understanding of the process is sufficient to complete the procedure without problems.

So here is how I understand I will do this :
1. Create system repair disc
2. Create system image disc
3. Place system image disc in the disc drive
4. Place destination hard drive in the laptop.
5. Boot to the disc containing the System Image
6. Follow instructions
7. Victory

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Am I right?

Would I be able to achieve the same result with only using a repair disc from my old HDD?

Will I need to wipe the destination HDD?

A:System image/repair disc creation and use questions

Hello lolpsy,

I would recommend to save the system image to a separate external or internal hard drive. DVDs are just not reliable enough IMO.

1. Create system repair disc
2. Create system image, and save to separate hard drive
3. Connect drive that contains system image.
4. Place destination hard drive in the laptop.
5. Boot from system repair disc
6. Select to do a system image recovery
7. Follow instructions
8. Victory

Hope this helps,
Shawn

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I normally use Acronis True Image for backup and recovery. Fine for file and folder recovery, but I want a reliable full system image of the Windows 7 PCs before upgrading to Window 10. I've just discovered that the Acronis bootable recovery system could not read always my backups so I'm trying the Windows Backup and Restore utility.

For some reason I get an I/O error when backing up to a Western Data 3 TB USB 3 external drive. (Interestingly Acronis writes to the disk with no problem, and, after a few false starts, the recovery system has no problem reading it.) Before I research this more, is there any reason the Windows Backup and Restore utility would have trouble creating a system image backup on a 3 TB USB 3 external drive?

The backup seems to be working fine to an old Seagate 2 TB USB 2 external drive. Is there any way to verify the backup once it is created? The Acronis recovery system had trouble reading backup fines on this disk even though Windows (and Acronis TI 2015 running on Windows) had no trouble reading and writing. I want to make sure the Microsoft recovery system does not have the same problem. But I don't want to do an actual recovery just to validate the backup.

And finally, Process Explorer shows no disk I/O even though the backup seems to be progressing (slowly). Is this I/O somehow hidden. My Kaspersky security software does show I/O activity.

A:Create system image utility - some general questions

Ok. I found the cause for the error when trying to create the system image backup on my WD 3 TB drive. Searching for error code 2155348010 I found several hits. Many large external drives - not just WD - now use a sector size of 4096 bytes rather than the 512 bytes expected by the image copy creation utility.

One such explanation is at
https://social.technet.microsoft.com...ode-2155348010

WD has a utility to reformat its drives and turn on support to emulate 512 byte sectors, but that lowers performance. And I would have to backup and restore my backup disk because the reformatting obviously clears the drive. Not worth it since I've now created the system image on another drive (temporarily borrowed from another PC).

I've read the Win8 supports the 4096 byte sector size. Hopefully Win10 does, too.

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Hi there!

I just bought a new laptop that comes with Windows 8.1. I want to upgrade to Windows 10.

My first question is, do I do a System Image or Recovery Disk -prior- to the upgrade, or after?

My second question is, is it sufficient to just do a Recovery Disk if I haven't installed anything yet? The main thing I can't figure out through my research is if I create a Recovery Disk, will that include my current operating system? Or is the operating system only backed up through a System Image?

I -think- my final question is, if I put all of this onto a flash drive, when I plug my flash drive in, is it going to try to reset my computer every time? Or only if I plug it in before I boot up?

I'm really not savvy to deal with a lot of the terminology I see on the web when I try to research these things on my own, so hopefully someone can answer my questions as if they're talking to a 5 year old
 

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1. I've been getting warnings that my hard drive is failing, and other diagnostics have reported there could be "bad clusters." I have an online backup of all my files, but I want to try an image restore. I following the Win 7 instructions for creating a backup. At the end of the process, the completion bar showed RED with the message that "bad clusters" were detected and those weren't included in the backup. Will the image restore still work?

2. I have baked up my image to a hard drive (my laptop!) on a network. After I used my System Repair disk, will it give me the network option to access the image?

Thanks.

A:Questions about Image backup and "Bad Clusters" & restore over network

I don't like Windows Backup and Restore. I prefer Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download It has a boot disk where you can get into your PC if it should fail and restore the image. It is very easy.

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I originally posted this to the tutorial section but no one has answered me and if i posted it in the wrong section you can remove it and leave it where it does belong but i really would like an answer before i go out and purchase a new external HD and find out i bought it for nawt.

I used the system image backup in windows 7 home premium.
btw i backed it up to an external HD
It made a folder with several subfolders after the backup and was about 55gigs
Now it is next month and i added programs, updates etc and i want to make another image does it go over the existing image backup or does it create a new folder with new subfolders?
I would like to understand this because i plan on purchasing a bigger HD and want to estimate how much I need

Also when i get the bigger external HD and do another backup image since it will not see the first one will it make a new beginning one? or will it have a fit and look for the old one on the other smaller external HD- then what would I do?
I did the first one just so i could see how it is done and to have something until I get a bigger external HD

thank you very much
Robin

A:Question about Backup System Image

I am not sure how much room it will use but you don't need to worry about it not fitting. It MAY overwrite the existing image. It may give you a warning when you start it. You will want to use the last one you created anyway, so it's okay to create another "on top of the one you have now.

I have a 250GB external and back up 4 systems on it with Windows imaging tool. I have run it on each computer several times and still have 60-70GBGB free space.

Hope this helps.

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OK, I have Win 7 & Win 8 on two separate HDD's (I can choose either OS to run at start-up).

So how come when I try to do a system image backup (in widows 8) & choose Win 8 from the list of drives it also locks in the Win 7 drive, which I cannot change?
It will not let me just do a System image backup of Win 8 without including the drive that has Win 7 installed.

A:Windows System image backup

Win7 partition may be system.

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In Windows, there is just something picture copy a backup of the devices required to operate. Within the drive becomes or failures damaged the machine picture may be used to displace Windows all.
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Hi,

I am using a HP laptop, and as most of you know, it comes with a Recovery partition. So now, I wanted to do a System Image of my C: Drive only, but when I am in the place to select the drive to backup to, it forces me to backup the C:, and Recovery drive, when all I want is to just backup the C: Drive. And I cannot see anywhere the option to not backup the Recovery Partition. Please help.

Thanks,
Slasher

A:System Image Backup Problem

Have you looked at Macrium Reflect Free Edition, which is more flexible and has a saner interface?

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Hello my system is dell xps 8300.i have upgraded from windos 7 ultimate(64bit) to windows 8 pro 64 bit.

My system has 1) dell oem partition (no drive ketter 39MB),2) recovery partition (ntfs no drive letter) 13.25 GB free 2.94 Gb,
3) C drive windows system partition 100Gb free 31,24 GB
rest of the two patitions are 175 Gb each (logical drives).

Total my hard disk capacity is 500GB.

what is the difference of taking backup and which is better for recovering the system to original state just before the backup.
1) system image backup(recovery partition & windows sytem partition) using windows 8 system backup..ie using
windows 7 file recovery menu under control panel.
2) creating custom recovery image for refresh.(command: recimage -CreateImage)

I have done both and my backup location is external hard drive of 2TB capacity.

I made system recovery disk(dvd) from the windows 7 file recovery menu.

The custom recovery image wim file is of size 22.GB

The recovery partition backup(vhdx) is of 9GB
and the windows system partition backup is of 43GB.

I have also used macurium reflect pro to take backup of my recovery and windows partition using macurium rescue cd.

kasinath

A:windows 8 system image backup

1) system image backup(recovery partition & windows sytem partition) using windows 8 system backup..ie using
windows 7 file recovery menu under control panel.



Is best.

MS will remove it in the next release.

Fortunately, you have this:






I have also used macurium reflect pro to take backup of my recovery and windows partition using macurium rescue cd.

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