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Multi Boot-Win7 & Win8.1 - Data Drive not seen in Win8.1

Q: Multi Boot-Win7 & Win8.1 - Data Drive not seen in Win8.1

Hopefully my explanation of this problem is not too confusing, this my first post.

My system is a multi-boot for Win7, Win8.1 & XP. I boot into Win7 most of the time. The multi-boot is controlled via EasyBCD in Win7. My data drive is a separate disk - F. I have been running this configuration for over a year without any major problems.

The system is an older Dell-XPS Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 A 2.66GHz with 8Gb memory
System drive - 1Tb with four partitions
Data drive - 1 Tb one partition

Recently I booted into Win8.1 after a few weeks of using only Win7. The data drive F: was not available. It does not show up in Disk Management and under Device Manager it shows as not connected to the system when the Unavailable Devices are displayed.

Booting back to Win7, the data drive is available, no problems with it. There are not any errors in the event/system logs in Win8.1 or Win7 related to the data drive F.

One possible cause might be that the motherboard battery was replaced about a week ago. I had to go in the BIOS and make changes for problems encountered when Win7 was booted. Unfortunately, I didn't boot Win8.1 to see if it had any problems. I've looked at the BIOS, but don't see anything that might cause this problem.

The config for the EasyBCD is below for boot into Win7
There are a total of 4 entries listed in the bootloader.

Default: Microsoft Windows 7
Timeout: 30 seconds
Boot Drive: C:\

Entry #1
Name: Windows 8.1
BCD ID: {3081a5c6-c566-11e3-808b-85773c60a873}
Drive: D:\
Bootloader Path: \WINDOWS\system32\winload.exe

Entry #2
Name: Earlier Version of Windows
BCD ID: {ntldr}
Drive: C:\
Bootloader Path: \ntldr

Entry #3
Name: Microsoft Windows 7
BCD ID: {current}
Drive: C:\
Bootloader Path: \Windows\system32\winload.exe

Entry #4
Name: Microsoft Windows XP
BCD ID: {35d885e8-466f-11e2-9b2c-001e4ce68d6b}
Drive: C:\
Bootloader Path: \NST\ntldr

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Preferred Solution: Multi Boot-Win7 & Win8.1 - Data Drive not seen in Win8.1

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A: Multi Boot-Win7 & Win8.1 - Data Drive not seen in Win8.1

First off, why so many entries in BCD ?

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I currently have Win7 & Win8 preview in separate partitions on the same machine. I am trying to figure out the best way to install win8 pro on my system and keep my current dual boot setup with Win 7 intact and stay legal.

So....I have a 3 licence family pack of windows 7 of which I have used only 1 licence. Is there some way I can use one of the remaining win7 licences to upgrade win8pro over top of the Win8 preview and keep my current dual boot win7/win8 setup(legally) and without messing up my current Win7 installation (or Win 8 preview installation for that matter)? Is there any advantage in getting the OEM version instead?

A:Question- upgrading win7HP/win8 preview dual boot to win7/win8 pro

If I understand it correctly; Anyone dual booting a legit version of Window Vista, XP or Win7 and Win8 RP can use the upgrade version of Win8 to do a clean install over the Win8 RP version.

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Want to multi boot, XP, Vista, Win7, Win8, and Unbantu 12.
Currently have win7 on an SSD. (I've had win8 DP, CP, RP install for testing but now have wiped that drive.)
I have an empty 300GB drive I want to install all those OS on. I think the correct order of installs would be:
XP - updating to SP3 x86
Vista - updating SP2 x64
Win7 - updating SP1 x64
Use EasyBCD2.0 to build a boot loader menu with WIn7 as default
Ubuntu 12.04
Boot through grub to get back to WIn7
Update EasyBCD boot loader menu with WIn7 as default and add Linux menu item
Win8 RP x64
Boot back to win7 somehow from win8
Update EasyBCD boot loader menu with WIn7 as default, and win8 menu item.

I'm sure I'm missing some small but important steps. I want to use win7 as default so there is not reboot to get to other OS's as when Win8 is the default. Also not sure if I need to remove the boot flag for XP if i'm loading Vista right after. Of coarse, I have OS backup images, and data backup on other Data/backup drives.
Can several of you out there give this a once over and post some pointers to make this go fairly smooth?

A:Multi Boot Correct order of OS installs - XP Vista Win7 Ubuntu Win8

Unless you do it and report back if it was successful we would not know if this is the way go.

If you install Windows versions from old to new (XP, Vista, 7, 8) every OS automatically cares for dual/multi booting.

I would install Ubuntu/GRUB last but not to MBR !

Adding a boot sector loader later for any Linux is not a problem.
1. Copy GRUB first stage (copy partition boot sector) to a file.
2. Create a boot sector loader in system BCD with file from 1.
See how to add any Linux to Windows BCD with bcdedit or Visual BCD

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I just purchased an HP Pavilion 20 All-In-One desktop computer that unfortunately had Windows 8 on it - I needed a computer immediately and no one in town had an all in one with 7 pro. I purchased Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit OEM software (from reputable store; computer is 64bit) and thought it would be an easy install - insert disk, follow directions. It acts as if it's installing windows 7, but when it gets to the screen which shows the language, time and - forgot the last drop down choice, I don't have use of the mouse or keyboard. I can't tab, use arrow keys, or anything. I have spent hours searching online before bothering anyone for free advice, but now I'm looking for free advice. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Also, do I post this in Windows 7 Pro or 8 ?

Let me add that this All In One does not have the touch screen monitor.

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I have Win8 successfully installed on a secondary single SSD drive. I want to test it, work on configuring it over time. My primary drive (2 drives on RAID 1) has Win 7 and the boot loader. If I remove my Win7 RAID array permanently, what do I have to do to boot from the Win 8 drive?


A:Move boot loader from primary Win7 drive to secd. Win8 drv

Mark the Windows 8 HD Drive ACTIVE
Partition - Mark as Active - Windows 7 Forums
Physically disconnect the Windows 7 HD's.
Make the Windows 8 HD/SSD, disk0 & first HD boot in BIOS.Also connected to the first Sata port on the MOBO.
Starting 1) & down until Windows 8 boots OK.
How to do a Automatic Repair:
Automatic Repair - Run in Windows 8
Note: You may need to do startup repair 3 to 4 times.
Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times - Windows 7 Forums

How to do a Refresh:
Refresh Windows 8

How to do a Reset
Reset Windows 8

Warning will not work for MOBO's with uEFI BIOS.
UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 8 with

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I installed a Win 7 and Win 8 dual UEFI boot (on a GPT-formated disk of course) on HD0. Both Win7 and Win8 boot fine when the Windows Boot Manager is selected on HD0. Then I installed Win XP and Ubuntu (on an MBR-formatted disk) on HD1. Both the Win XP install and the Ubuntu install boot via legacy bios (with CSM support) when HD1 is selected in the UEFI.

This is very similar to what Theog's setup is (or at least was at some point in time; see image below).

I can boot in UEFI mode on Disk 0 and boot either Win 8 or Win 7, or I can boot in BIOS/MBR mode on Disk 1 and boot either Win XP or Ubuntu. The problem is that I can not seem to get all four options to work from one boot screen.

The closest that I have gotten is to load a Windows 7 boot manager (bootmgr) and a BCD store on the Win XP partition and use EasyBCD and BCDedit to create boot options for all four operating systems. WinXP, Ubuntu, and Win7 all boot up fine this way, but Win8 gives me a boot error saying something like "invalid signature for winload.exe".

Is there a way to get this to work?

A:UEFI Multi-Boot (Win8/7/XP, Ubuntu) with MBR Windows XP

The above screenshot is using the One Time Boot Menu.

You can dual boot two+ UEFI mode OS's
You can dual boot two+ Legacy mode OS's
But not a UEFI mode & a Legacy mode.

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I am dualbooting Win8 and Win7, using one 500gb hard drive. Win7 has been my main OS, so all of my music, photos, etc. are stored there.

How can I access the user data from my Win7 install , from my Win8 install?

Everytime I try to go to it from Win8 ---- > My computer it says that I don't have permission to access the files for that user,then attempts to do so for some random period of time, and in the end nothing happens.

A:Accessing Win7 use data and files from Win8 install on HD

I have noticed for quite awhile that your post has had no replies. It doesn't seem like your problem should be too hard to solve--but the lack of replies suggests that it is not that easy to solve. Anyway, I am having no luck in solving your problem via searches.

I don't want to say something like change the permissions because fooling with the permissions of bootable partitions labeled with drive letters might be problematic. I certainly don't suggest that you try to do so without knowing for sure what the consequences might be. I have some questions. Can you access the Win8 drive from your Win7 partition? Are both partitions labeled with drive letters in Computer? If yes, what happens when you double click the Win7 drive having started up to Win8 and vice versa? How have you been trying to access the Win7 partition from Win8. Does device manager show any issues with your hard drive from either boot?

I suggest that you don't do anything until one of the real experts here gives the OK. If you decide to take a risk, be sure your data files are well backed up.

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Wondering if anyone has done this? I am assuming settings would be lost and such. Can anyone confirm if the settings would be completely lost, or if they would be relocated to "Windows.old" folder?


A:installing 32-bit Win8 over 64-bit OS (Win7 or Win8)?

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I'm adding SSD for the operating system and want to use the existing dual boot HD for my data drive. Need to make it 1 partition and get all the existing win7 and win8 files removed.

I can get to Disc Management screen but not exactly sure what steps to take.

A:How change 2 partition dualboot (win7/win8) into 1 part. for data only

Do you intend to do a clean install to the SSD?

If so, disconnect the HD before installing to the SSD.

After the SSD boots Windows OK, reconnect the HD and do what you wish with it---presumably delete all partitions and reformat.

Or have I misunderstood your intentions? I assume you want to get rid of the dual boot?

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I want to upgrade from Windows 7 64 bit Home edition - To Windows 8 64 bit Home Edition.

I currently have my windows 7 installation on drive C (64GB SSD)

My user profiles, Data and programmes are stored on Drive E ( 1TB HDD )

If i use the windows 8 upgrade option - What will happen?.


A:Upgrade Win7 to Win8 keeping user data&programs on 2nd hdd


Though my installation didn't span two volumes like yours does, I ran the upgrade on my system without incident. The upgrade program identified a handful of items that were incompatible and let me remove them as part of the upgrade process. Once done my system operated pretty much as before.

Suggest that you do an image backup prior to running the upgrade, however I'd say confidence is high that your upgrade will go smoothly. I have a lot of development tools and other items on my machine and have run into surprisingly few issues as an upgrade. This time I didn't feel like doing a system rebuild as that often takes me several days to get everything settled down. So far no issues of significance.

I upgraded from Win7 Ultimate (64-bit) to Win8 Pro/64.


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I have a Windows 7 computer with Lotus 8.5 on it and I need to transfer Lotus 8.5 and all it's files and emails and the encryption key to the Windows 8 computer. I do not think that Windows 8 will recognize Lotus 8.5 so I had the idea to partition the Windows 8 computer and install Windows 7 on one of the partitions thus making it a dual boot computer, then install Lotus 8.5 to the Windows 7 partition. My problem is Windows 8 is already installed on the computer and Windows website warns not to install the older operating system second.
Windows website warns, "You must install the older operating system first, and then install the more recent operating system. If you don't (for example, if you install Windows Vista on a computer already running Windows 7), you can render your system inoperable. This can happen because earlier versions of Windows don't recognize the startup files used in more recent versions of Windows and can overwrite them." What should I do? I have found some information on installing Windows 7 as a second operating system on a Windows 8 computer thus creating a Dual Boot computer and giving you the best of both worlds and full app compatibility as some of your Windows 7 applications may not be supported in a Windows 8 environment. Thank you.

A:Dual Boot Win7 on a Win8Lotus 8.5-How To Transfer Software from Win7 to Win8 Computer

you question is mainly about how to setup a dual boot on windows 8 PC

do you have an installation CD for windows 8 and for windows 7 ?

i will move to windows 8 forum and need to change the title a bit

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I would love to dual boot 7 and 8 on my laptop. However, my laptop has Windows 8. Is it possible if I were to partition a space and download the 7 disk? Thanks.

A:Dual Boot Win8 and Win7...

After installing Windows 7 it will take over boot process.

To repair dual-boot:
1. Run Dual-boot Repair tool from Visual BCD package.
This will make Windows 8 again the default boot loader.

Only if Windows 7 is missing from boot menu after repair -
Visual BCD Editor - "Create missing Windows loaders" (in right click menu).

See also how to fix advanced boot options (second half of page).

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Currently I have Win8 and Win7 installed on individual drives. Would it be more advisable to install on one drive in separate partitions?


A:Win8-Win7 Dual Boot

Hello Harold, and welcome to Eight Forums.

That's mostly just a personal choice.

If one drive should fail, you would at least have the other one to still use. You may need to do a startup repair/automatic repair on it first to get it to boot though.

Hope this helps,

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Are there any special steps i need to follow rather than just installing Win8 to another drive?

Also, i guess that Win7 drivers will work on Win8, right?

A:Dual boot Win8 with Win7

I had no problems dual booting 7&8 on a three year old Dell laptop. Drivers that were needed picked up by win update after a couple of boot ups, Course the one you absolutely want and need to work right away is the nic driver, :ninja:

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Is there a way to remove "Win7 Boot Manager"?
Because after the 1st Boot of the Day it stops at win8 light blue screen and gives the choice, Win7 and Win8 they both work here. , But when the Computer 'Re-Boots" , It stops at "Win7 Boot Manager" but does not let me make a choice, it just times out and goes to Windows 7.

A:Dual Boot Win7 & Win8

Hi RLAbbott25,
Welcome to the forums, go to system, Advanced system settings, system properties, click settings in startup and recovery, then from the dropdown select the OS you prefer. I have attached a snip of my set up for you to compare. I'm dual booting with vista and have selected W8DP as my default OS. HTH.

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I have a 60GB SSD with Windows 7 installed, and a 1TB HDD that I intend to install Windows 8 on.

My understanding of ReadyBoost is that it creates a XGB-sized file in the root of the flash drive, without disrupting any data.

I believe I can create an 8-16GB RB file with no problems.

Is this correct? or is this bad juju?

And is there a way that I can somewhat "Hide" the drive, while still having it mounted for RB?


A:Can I use my Win7 SSD as a ReadyBoost Drive for Win8?

Nah, Readyboost is only for external type of storage. Besides, you don't want to use a SSD for any type of memory management since the frequent writes will shorten its life span significantly. That's why I don't even recommend putting the pagefile on it either.

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I just installed Windows 7 on my HP Envy m6 1125.

I am not sure what to do because I cannot locate drivers to install on Windows 7 so I'm stuck. I try to boot to Windows 8 at start up but it does not load it just goes back to the boot screen and it will only load Windows 7.

How do I get to windows 8 so I can delete Windows 7? I am going to attempt to install Windows 8.1 to fix the issues I've been having.

A:Win7/Win8 Dual Boot Problem

What Happen When You Browse Your Hard Disk To Select Drive For Windows Installation(In Setup Window)?

(Typically)You Must Install Windows 7 First
Install Windows 8(or 8.1)
Note: Upgrade From Windows 8 to Windows 8.1 is Free

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My daughter's laptop computer with Windows 8 installed experienced a blue screen that would not let the computer boot. Of course no back ups, no recovery disk made. Thought we were screwed, butshe found original Vista recovery disks. While waiting for her to bring recovery disks (58 mile trip) I figured I try to install Windows 7 to computer. Anyway I installed it on separate partition for a dual boot. C partiton w/ Win 8 was l;eft untouched.
Now to make long story short I was able to repair the Win 8 partition and my daughter wants to keep Win 8. So question is how to uninstall Windows 7 from the D partition and return the computer to it's normal Win 8 boot??

A:Win8 + Win7 dual boot uninstall help

Please post screenshot of disk management. And tell me if done from within win7 or win8

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I currently have UEFI Windows 8.1 installed on a 1TB drive, formatted in GPT. This has created an issue when trying to install W7 - it doesn't play nice with UEFI...

UEFI Bootable USB Flash Drive - Create in Windows

I've followed this tutorial in order to create the USB drive with Rufus (UEFI Bootable).

Can I simply shrink the partition my W8 is installed on by say, 200GB, and then select the unallocated space in the W7 installer to install it in UEFI mode? (Have to install with UEFI due to GPT drive). Or can I not dual boot them both in UEFI mode? Will selecting the unallocated space and installing W7 in UEFI ruin my W8 installation?

Before you suggest I simply delete all the partitions on the drive and start from scratch - this is NOT an option.

A:Dual boot trouble - Win8 and Win7

Hi and Welcome.

What version Windows 7? x64?

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I have a unique situation that I cant seem to find related inquries anywhere in my searches. As some of you may have experienced, I had my eye on a laptop for a few months waiting for funds to come in and the same model laptop I was looking at went from win7 64bit to windows 8 only over night. no warning, no option to customize back to win7, frusterating I know. I ordered the laptop anyways with the plans to dual boot win 7, creating a smaller win8 partition and a larger main win7 partition. Problem is I cant seem to find any related articles. every article is starting with win 7 and dual booting win8. I want to do the opposite.

I know there might be some complications with the order the OS's are installed, and ultimatly I want win7 to be my OS so if it isnt possible to dual boot 7 on top of 8, then I will just end up doing a fresh install.

Thank you in advance

A:Unique Win8 win7 dual boot, is it possible?

The only way to dual boot those two at the moment is to install 7 and then proceed to partition your hard drive so you can install 8 on the empty one. You can message me if you like and i can walk you through it since i just finished doing two of these setups sucessfully.

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Windows 8.1 boot loader I like the look of its boot loader. Much nicer then previous windows versions or Grub . I now the preview is only 90 days but can I use its boot loader still.

A:can I dual boot Win8.1 preview and win7 and use

Yes, you can, but I can not see why you would need to.

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Thx for all your help earlier with telling me to load OS separately with 1 hdd disconnected.
My #1 HD is working fine and has Win7 HP on it.
MY #2 HD is where the problem is when i go to Install Win 8 Pro with a retail (upgrade) disk
History of #2 hd
This HD can from a older HP system that I had that originally had Vista on(its a WD 640g drive)
I upgraded it to Win 7 pro
my bios does see this drive
I can load the Win 8 disk and get to command prompt :
Using diskpart my disk looks like this:
list disk

status size Free dyn gpt
* Disk 0 online 596 2048kb
Disk 1 no media 0b 0b
Disk 2 no media 0b 0b
Disk 3 no media 0b 0b
Disk 4 no media 0b 0b
Disk 5 no media 0b 0b

List Partition

Partition### Type Size Offset
Partition 1 Primary 99mb 1024mb
Partition 0 Extended 596gb 101mb
Partition 2 Logical 596gb 102 mb

Let me know if this helps or if ya need more info

A:Need help trying to dual boot win7 /win8 separate HHD's

This might help too
This is currently how these HDD's look through my Win 7 Disk Management

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I have a Lenovo G550 with Intel Pentium Dual Core T4400 @2.2 GHz and 3GB Ram. My laptop is triple booted with Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 32-bit, Windows 8 Release Preview 32-bit and Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit. The problem is that when I shut down from Windows 8 and the next time I start my laptop and select Windows 7, the screen just goes blank and nothing happens. I have to then force switch it off and then start it again for it to boot into Windows 7. Please help me to rectify this problem.

A:Win7-Win8 Dual boot problems

Start with using Startup Repair to attempt to repair the Win8 bootloader. IME the bootloader is very polite - it even keeps working when I physically remove my Win8 hard drive (leaving me with only Win7).

To get into Startup Repair:
- create a Startup Repair disk by typing "recdisc.exe" (without the quotes) into the Run dialog (press Win key and R to open it).
- boot from the Startup Repair disk to run Startup Repair
- run it at least 3 times.

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I have a new windows8 preloaded laptop, and I found a tutorial on this forum on how to dual boot with win7. Im not sure if windows8 has anything to do with it, but when I boot to the DVD to install windows7, it ends up just sitting at the start up splash screen saying "starting windows". I downloaded win7 pro from a program through school, I might have burned the image wrong but I doubt it.

any idea what might be the issue? I swear the easiest things always become difficult for me.

Thank you for the help.

A:Win8 Win7 dual boot issue

Are booting the DVD in uEFI mode?

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Hi All,

I've searched around the internet (and these forums) for this query but haven't had any luck in finding a solution.

My system is currently configured with Windows 7 Pro and Win XP Pro, in a dual boot configuration. They are on separate partitions on a single SSD.

I bought Windows 8 a while back but haven't installed it yet, as I need to keep my dual boot configuration (need XP). I'd ideally like to install 8 over 7 (am happy doing a complete wipe of 7, but an upgrade would be cool too).

I used EasyBCD to make my current dual boot configuration with Win7/XP, however it's been years since I did the install so don't really recall what steps I took (however I'm sure I could find them somewhere).

My question is, what steps would I need to take to install 8 over 7 and keep the dual boot w/ XP? I think I'd just need to completely wipe 7 (my media / documents / etc. are on separate hds), and install 8 on that newly blank partition. Then I would use EasyBCD to configure the boot menu to recognize the existing XP installation and restore the dual boot setup.

Would I be correct in my thinking here? Any potential hassles that I'll run into?

Thanks much,

A:Have Win7/XP Dual boot, want to install Win8 over 7

Welcome to EightForums.

If your Windows 7 install is on Partition 1 & Win XP is on Partition 2, if you wipe the Windows 7 partition, the Win XP boot files will also be wiped.

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I'm about to take the plunge and upgrade to Win8.

At present I have WIn7, with my SSD drive containing the OS and progs, and a separate hard drive with my user data on it, I would like to retain all the data on this data drive.

I will do a clean install of Win8 on my SSD drive. After I have done this what is the best way to set up my user data on my hard drive which already contains my user data? Can I just use the reg hack to point to my data drive?

1. Open Registry Editor by type regedit from command line, and navigate toHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\WINDOWS NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList.

2. Change the value of the Default, Public, Profile Directory keys to the new location accordingly.

Then I will install my programs.

Will this method then allow my Win8 installation to see all my old desktop and user data? Is there a better way?

Thanks for any input or alternative methods.

A:Migrating from Win7 to Win8 - Dual Drive

After the installation set your paths here

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders

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In anticipation to the final version of Windows 8 being available to the masses, I would like to know what are the possibilities of installing Windows 8 64bit when Windows 7 32bit is already installed.
Would Windows 7 32bit and all 32bit drivers have to be reinstalled with 64bit versions?
Would all settings and saved data be retained?
Would it mean a complete reinstallation of all existing/installed applications or partitioning the hard drive and start from new again?
Or would installing another hard drive be more appropriate?

A:[SOLVED] Dual boot Win7 32 bit and Win8 64bit?

if you go from 32 to 64 bit, it will require a compete install, even if you use an upgrade disk. It will require all apps, drivers and such to be reinstall. This should not change with win8

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Happy New Year to All. We are going to have an incredibly exiting new year's eve. We'll be watching Times Square midnight two hours earlier.

I am live on my Win8 lappy having connected to this machine using RDC on my Win7 Boot Camp installation. I ended up on the Win8 Desktop since the Win8 machine was on the Desktop when I connected via RDC. The charm bar doesn't work (or at least I can't get it to work)--which probably doesn't come as a big surprise. I am trying to figure out how to navigate between the Win8 Desktop and Metro, including the charms. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to get this basic task done? The main problem is that I have not yet figured out key combinations that will do the job.

By way of explanation, my Win8 (older) HP lappy is a bit clunky compared to a MacBook Pro (MBP). I was hoping to use Win8 via the MBP because it is a much nicer machine from which to work. I first tried to get the desired navigation going via Mt. Lion/RDC, but had no luck. I thought things might work better if I connected to the Win8 machine through my MBP Win 7 Boot Camp installation using RDC, but I still am having no luck with the basic navigation I am trying to accomplish.

All thoughts appreciated.

PS I am not interested in running Win8 virtually on either MBP installation.

PSS Perhaps I need to do more preparation on the Win8 lappy, e.g., make a shortcut or a taskbar pin that will take me to Metro, etc.

A:Live: On Boot Camp Win7 Using RDC on Win8: Metro?

Found this tutorial to get me started: Shortcut to Metro Apps from Desktop. For some reason, the icons for some of the apps are not showing up after using the shortcut. I can access the "invisible" icon apps by clicking in the right vicinities. I can see faint white versions of the apps with a mouse overs.

And, this one is very good: Executable for going to Metro Start Screen. From the start screen, you can get to all apps, of course.

Now, I need to find a way to get to the charms--especially Search and Setting.

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Good day to all,
I'm just wondering if it's possible to install Windows 7 x64 on my laptop as a dual boot option? It's running Windows 8.1 upgraded from Windows 8.
If it's possible(considering I'll be installing via partitioning my D drive), will I still be able to use applications installed on Win 8.1 on the newly installed Win7? (ie Microsoft Office '10; various Online Games)
[edit] And will I have to reinstall drivers? (ie Sound/Graphic Drivers)
Asus K46CA

Intel i3-3217 1.8ghz
4GB Ram
Intel HM76 Express Chipset
Intel HD 4000 Graphics
Windows 8.1 Single Language
Thanks in advanced!

A:[Q] Installing Win7 on Win8.1 Laptop as Dual Boot

Not knowing the model notebook you have or the age of it, it is hard to say. Although I have Win 8 running in a VM on my Win 7 desktop system I rarely use it and do not have any system designed specifically for Win 8. From what I have read Some feature in Win 8 Locks the EFI ( BIOS ) so no other operating system can be installed. But IIRC that is a Feature of the UEFI and can be turned off.
So if there are Windows 7 drivers for the hardware in your Notebook you should be able to install Win 7 without a problem once, or IF, that Lock feature is turned off.

As to the programs you have installed in Win 8, No you can't use them in Windows 7 until you Install them in to the Windows 7 install you plan on doing. You will have 2 separate operating system installed and for each every program you want to use in both will need to be installed into both.

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Original Post:

I've recently installed a dual boot, Windows 7 and Windows 8. The installation went fine but then after a very short time my Windows 8 Screen goes black. I had to press the power button to exit.

I've checked the Power settings and ensured the "Turn off display" was "never". I also updated my Video drivers thinking that might be the problem. Both to no avail. I've done a "Refresh" and a "Reset (which took 3 hrs). Again, all was fine for a short time, but while exploring the OS, again the black screen. Would anyone know what else I could try to fix this Windows 8 problem. Thanks so much.

I posted the above question about two months or so ago and received suggestions (thank you everyone) which I followed... re-formatting the hard drive during the new installation, trying generic video drivers and doing Resets and Refreshes. None of that worked and still doesn't. The installations do complete as before, but I don't have enough time to download new updates to perhaps correct whatever problem(s) there are before all goes black after a few minutes. As I stated before I have to hold down the power button to exit.

If this is a clue, once the screen goes black and I revert back to Window7, before loading, the File System on ALL drives, including C and the Windows 8 partition has to check for consistency before Windows 7 boots... Read more

A:Dual Boot Win7/8 - Win8 Goes To Black After Install

Hello leelord,

I see you took your own advice and started a unique thread with lots of detail in your lead-in post; however, my first question is "what the heck is all that?" and my second question is "where are the Win 7 and Win 8 installations located (specifically)?" Please understand that I may not be the primary person to help you unravel this mystery; however, I think I might be able to pull a bit more information out of you so it might entice the proper guru to offer a response to your issue.

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I really don't understand why some people do this. What is the main purpose of having 2 OS on one PC? Do you really use the 2 OS? Maybe XP and Win8 is ok..or Win8 and Lion OS (Hackintosh as they call it). But Win7 and Win8? Why???? More often than not, a lot of people are only having problems booting up and making it work flawlessly. I think it is more of a headache than fun. Only to find out afterwards that some people think Win8 sucks. :P

I have nothing against those who have a dual boot system. I just probably need to be enlightened a little bit.

A:Win7 & Win8 Dual Boot - What is the real purpose?

The main reason is many people don't like Win 8 initially so prefer to continue using Win 7 while they modify Win 8 to their liking and learn to use it. At least that is why I had Win 7/8 dual boot for a month or so. I eventually removed Win 7 and use only Win 8 now.

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Hello everybody!

I received a laptop awhile back that came pre-installed with Windows 8 which I did not enjoy, so I decided to downgrade to Windows 7. Which has been going fine and everything is good, but 2~3 weeks ago I had some questions involving my computers performance that I also requested advice about via this forum and was told that my process is pretty bottom shelf and that Win8 was better for this. Plus, the newest update just released so I am curious as to how they improved on it and if I will like it now. I have been reading and am just a little nervous because I don't want to ruin my only computer that I need for school. Being that Win8 has the UEFI funky new BIOS thing, I recall having to change certain items involving booting when I went back to Win7. So, I am wondering if the BIOS is still the same as when I had Win8 (other than those values that I could change back) or did it completely refigure it? I am not extremely well versed with these sorts of things and have just begun really 'tinkering' a few months ago. So, do I need to update the BIOS for Win8 or is it fine? I am currently backing everything up right now and just want to take the proper steps to ensure a smooth installation. Lastly, I read that the product key for Win8 was now stored on the BIOS and there were programs to retrieve it, but I'm assuming that is when you are running Win8. Is that key lost and do I need to purchase another one? Or would it still be on the BIOS? Any advice is greatly ap... Read more

A:Win8 to Win7 back to Win8 (HELP! w BIOS, product key on BIOS etc.)

Hi Jeremy-

What I would do is shrink C in Disk Mgmt to install Win8 in a Dual Boot to try the new update to see if its anything compelling. This is how I tried Win8 repeatedly until I finally deleted it for the last time realizing it doesn't hold a candle to Win7.

The steps are here for Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista - Windows 8 Forums.

If you changed to Legacy Mode to install Win7, then you can install Win8 in Legacy Mode too. You don't need to use Secure Boot or UEFI which is crapware that adds no extra value but plenty of complications.

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New to Win8 and this forum...

Using my Server 2008 R2 host, created a Win8 VM/VHD and it boots, works fine. I followed instructiong using BCDEdit to add the VHD to my boot options. When i reboot and select the VHD it begins to load then fails. I end up in the recovery option tools. Looking through the advanced info I believe the root problem is "failed to find osloader" or something close to that.

Most of the tutorial's have the VHD added to the Win7 boot screen, but, thats' not my scenario.

Is there something I missed in getting this working? Has anyone used a VHD created in Win Server 2008 R2 to use as a native boot VHD?

Would love to get this working.

Machine is a Lenovo T510, 8 Gig memory.


A:Boot Win8 VHD, already dual booting Win7 and Win Server 2008 R2

Originally Posted by timhenn

New to Win8 and this forum...

Using my Server 2008 R2 host, created a Win8 VM/VHD and it boots, works fine. I followed instructiong using BCDEdit to add the VHD to my boot options. When i reboot and select the VHD it begins to load then fails. I end up in the recovery option tools. Looking through the advanced info I believe the root problem is "failed to find osloader" or something close to that.

Most of the tutorial's have the VHD added to the Win7 boot screen, but, thats' not my scenario.

Is there something I missed in getting this working? Has anyone used a VHD created in Win Server 2008 R2 to use as a native boot VHD?

Would love to get this working.

Machine is a Lenovo T510, 8 Gig memory.


The process of creating and using a VHD under Server 2008 R2 is no different to the same process under Windows 7. Admittedly, I haven't tried creating a VHD for Windows 8 under the server platform, but I've created several Windows 7 VHDs under Server in the past.

The method I always use involves WAIK Creating Bootable Virtual Hard Disks and when installed simply use:

bcdboot x:\Windows - where x: is the drive you declared for the VHD

To add the VHD to the boot options.

I'll try adding a VHD to Server 2008 a little later today...

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I've create 2 partitions, 1st partition is Win7 SysPrep and the 2nd partition is Win8.1 Sysprep
I install Win7 and press Ctrl-Shift-F3 to form SysPrep, same as Win8.1 in 2nd partition.
I made this becuase I've 25 Dell new Win8.1 Computer which are UEFI. So I want to make a master computer which has both Win7 and Win8.1 with SysPrep in it. Then I want to clone it to the other 24 Dell computers.
CASE 1 : 2 different partitions with 2 different Windows :
If I install both Windows like above, when Sysprep Generalize Win7, it works fine. But if I SysPrep Generalize Win8.1, it's fine also, but never can boot again back to Win7. The start boot option is like this :
Windows 7
Windows 8.1
If I choose to boot Windows 8.1, it's fine. If I choose to boot Windows 7, it ever boot to Windows 8.1. It means nomatter I choose to boot which Windows, it all goes to Windows 8.1 ?????
CASE 2 : 1 partition for Win7 + Win81.VHD :
I install Win7 (C and press Ctrl-Shift-F3 to form SysPrep.
I create a Win81.VHD in Drive D: , imagex Win8.1 install.wim in it. Also press Ctrl-Shift-F3 to form SysPrep.
Sysprep Generalize Win7 is OK , SysPrep Generalize Win8.1 is also OK. But after that I can only boot to Windows 7 fine, when choose to boot Win8.1 , it always restart and back to the boot menu ?????
Can anyone help ? Thanks a lot.

A:Dual boot Win7 and Win8.1 SysPrep with UEFI GPT Problem

hello,you uefi setup issue is a little over my head ,lol ,but
when I setup a simple duel boot with 7&8 I too had same issue and I ran the win8 boot repair and it fixed the mbr [I assume]so I was able to then boot to either os, good luck.
run repair
Automatic Repair - Run in Windows 8

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I have a question on the best way to install Windows 7 as a dual boot on an existing Windows 8 installation on a new Asus Laptop. Most of the tutorials I've seen assume the pre-existing installation is Windows 7, and say that Windows 7 needs to be installed first, not an option when your Win8 comes pre-installed.

I have an Asus F75, and here is the partitioning:
1. 300 MB EFI System Partition, FAT32
2. 900 MB NTFS Recovery Partition (would seem to be the MS Reserved partition, is that correct?)
3. 279 GB NTFS OS Partition
4. 398 GB NTFS Data Partition
5. 20 GB NTFS Recovery Partition

It sounds like after installing Windows 7, the boot menu will be the Win7 text boot selection menu if you use that as the default OS, which is what I plan on doing, so I believe there isn't anything I need to do to that, is that correct?

I have turned of Fast Boot in Win8, and disabled Secure Boot in the system BIOS.

What should I do about the existing Data partition, which will be the Win7 partition. Should I:
a. Leave that intact and simply install Win7 to it, or
b. Delete the partition, install Win7 and allow the install to manage the unallocated space?

Do I have any other considerations other than collecting all the Win 7 drivers for the laptop (which I have already done)?

A:Install Win7 as Dual-Boot on Existing Win8 Laptop


When dual booting with Windows 8 Preinstalled & Windows 7

Follow Step one to five in this tutorial:
Downgrade Windows 8 to Windows 7
Warning you must have the uEFI/BIOS firmware setting in Step Three set.

Make sure you read the NOTE at Step three.

Than follow this tutorial: (installing in uEFI mode.)
Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista

For Ref:
UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with - Windows 7 Help Forums

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i have one 750GB hard disk with 8 partition. i installed windows 7 in first partition and windows 8 in second partition.
i want to hide windows 8 drive when i boot in windows 7 and hide windows 7 drive when i boot in windows 8.
with NeoGrub tools in EasyBCD can do this, but i dont know how to scripting in NeoGrub!
how can i do that? plz help me..

A:Dual boot win7 & win8 with Hide active partitions

Have you tried simply removing the drive letter for 8 when you`re in 7 and vice versa ?

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I had win7 and i installed windows 8.I did not like win8 so i launched msconfig from win 7 and i deleted from the boot tab the win8 option then my pc asked me to restart but i refused because i thought that i should first delete the space that it was consumed from win8 and extend my win7 partition. But i can't the option delete partition is not available on win8 partition.I restarted pc but it still recognise win8 partition as system,healthy etc. How can i delete this partition and extend the windows 7 partition?

A:[Q]Win7-Win8 dual boot problem-How to remove windows 8?

Have a look at this. Maybe it helps. Dual Boot - Delete a OS

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I would like to upgrade my dual HDD, dual boot system, to dual boot on one large SSD. I currently have Win7 Ultimate on one 500GB Seagate HDD and Win8.1 Pro on another 500GB Seagate HDD. I have a 1TB Samsung 840 EVO SSD that I would like to use for the upgrade. The system is an Acer Aspire 8920 Laptop.
Is this even possible? If so, how do I do it? ANY help would be GREATLY appreciated!

A:Solved: Dual boot Win7 & Win8.1 on 2HDD to 1SSD, How?

Install the earlier (Windows 7) version of Windows and then the later (Windows 8.1) version. Hide or disconnect the hard drives while doing the installation to make sure all the boot information goes onto the SSD.

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Windows 8 bootloader used to show some glitchy graphics instead of W8 logo from time to time; however, until now, it usually managed to get it's job done launch Windows 8 or Windows 7.

Until now. Well, it's now stuck to Windows 7 for some reason. Most often it shows it's distorted graphics, then it launches Win7 w/o asking. This renders Win8 unbootable.

If that's relevant: (a) Win7 came preinstalled, then I put Win8 next to it and then I proceeded with Mint; (b) Because of that, it is GRUB that shows first when the laptop starts, Windows 8 bootloader can only be launched from GRUB; (c) Secure Boot was disabled by default; (d) IIUC the boot is set to Legacy Bios, not UEFI; (e) I switched off fast startup at Win8 before installing Mint; (f) I can launch Windows 8 from Windows 8 installation media, but Automatic Repair fails to repair anything (I was hoping that maybe Automatic Repair could reinstall Windows 8 bootloader, even if it got rid of GRUB in the process; but then, hopefully, I could restore GRUB - or not...) (g) I'm really too slobby, I lost Windows 7 installation media somewhere... Perhaps I could find it, by searching up the whole flat.

OK, how to fix this? Y, I know, attempting to have three OSes installed on one laptop w/o having deep knowledge about boot-related things *was* asking for problems, but still... I need Linux, and I need Windows 8.

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Hi y'all

Lately I have added Win8 to my Win7 x64 PC, so it is now dual-boot.
After that I have taken an Image of the system drive(s) using the built-in imaging function of Win7.
Now in trying to restore this Image file I had to realize that both Win7 AND Win8 using their built-in restore functions refuse to write back that image file

Of course, from now on I will use 3rd party software for that,
but is there any way I still might succeed?

(attached is my systemdrive layout)

Thanx in advance, eXPerimentator :-)

A:How to restore SystemImage taken in Win7 /Win8 dual boot environment

You can use the wbadmin commands from booted winpe.

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Please help me with this! I've been trying to move to Windows 8. I DLed the Windows 8 Release Preview x64 .iso from Microsoft's site. I followed the steps to make a bootable flash drive from my .iso. When I changed the boot order, I got the following message:
"Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause." I've attached the screenshot, from the VMware version.

I know that I'm running win7 64 bit currently. What could be causing this? I'd love to not have to re-download all 3.3 GB if possible.

Thank you!

A:Trying to Install Win8 on my Win7 laptop, getting BIOS boot error

Does the fact that it's missing a system32 file mean that I should actually be using the 32-bit version??

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i have one 750GB hard disk with 8 partition. i installed windows 7 in first partition and windows 8 in second partition.
i want to hide windows 8 drive when i boot in windows 7 and hide windows 7 drive when i boot in windows 8.
with NeoGrub tools in EasyBCD can do this, but i dont know how to scripting in NeoGrub!
how can i do that? plz help me..

A:Dual boot win7 & win8 with Hide active partitions

You already asked this in the Win 7 forum and have a response: Dual boot win7 & win8 with Hide active partitions - Windows 7 Support Forums

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Hi, apologize in advance if this is the wrong forum to post this. It was either this or BSOD crash, but I do not have any BSOD at all.

Basically, I have a Thinkpad X201Tablet. I have set it up to dual boot in Windows 7 pro and Windows 8 pro. And it has been working perfectly so far (installed from purchased DVD) until recently.

I was using Windows 7 at that point of time, just shut down all my software and applications, then I put the PC into sleep mode. After trying to wake it up from sleep, it comes up to the login page. However it does not show the login details. It only shows the login background picture. Other than that everything was missing for me to log in.

I tried using my finger print scanner. Nothing happens.

Then I pressed the power button, planning to force shut it down the pc. However I forgot to hold it down, and the pc hibernated. And I then turned it on again. This time I went to grab my lunch. When I came back about 20 minutes later. It was still the same, it goes into the login page, but only just showing the background picture. No login details, no box to enter my password. And there was no hard disk activity on the LED.

I then did a forced shut-down this time.

When I turned it back on, it went to the Thinkpad brand + 'press the blue thinkvantage button to enter setup' page. After that, it goes to black and keep resetting the PC to go back to that first page again. Normally, it should go to the Windows 8 boot selection page (the blue pag... Read more

A:Win8 / Win7 Dual Boot - Infinite Reboot Problem.

A, B, C, NO.

Do a Repair.
How to do a Automatic Repair:
Automatic Repair - Run in Windows 8

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I cloned my Windows 7 Pro X64 system to another HDD then upgraded the cloned system to Windows 8 Pro.
As a result both Win7 and Win8 have the same Boot Manager Data, so I currently use the BIOS alternate boot option to select which system to boot.
Have tried a number of "solutions" so far, but all have gone pear-shaped and each time I've had to recover both systems because these solutions have resulted in subsequent problems with booting up either system.
Have used "BCDEDIT /ENUM /V" to list the data from both systems and included that in the attached files.

Would welcome a safe solution that would remove the need to go via the bios options.

Thanks in advance.

A:Dual Boot Issue : Upgraded Cloned Win7 to Win8

To use the Windows 8 upgrade install, you need to delete the Windows 7 install.


Originally Posted by Microsoft

What about upgrading the software? The software covered by this agreement is an upgrade to your existing operating system software, so the upgrade replaces the original software that you are upgrading. You do not retain any rights to the original software after you have upgraded and you may not continue to use it or transfer it in any way. This agreement governs your rights to use the upgrade software and replaces the agreement for the software from which you upgraded. After you complete your upgrade, additional software will be required to playback or record certain types of media, including DVDs.

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First, thanks for any help you can provide. I have Acronis 2013 Plus. What I am trying to do is image the disk of a Windows 7 machine (source) to a machine that had Windows 8 pre-installed (target - Gateway SX2110G).
I connected the Windows 7 drive to the new machine (USB data cable), disabled Secure Boot, and enabled Legacy. Booted to True Image and started the cloning of the drive. Everything seemed to go ok, but as soon as it starts to boot Windows 7, it gives a 7D BSOD. (the same BSOD it gives when I simply plug the source hard drive into the target and try to boot from it).
The source HDD (win 7) boots fine in its original machine.*I tried the startup repair that's included with the image.. does it matter if I use the one from a disc instead?
I've been stumped for 3 days. If anyone can help I'd REALLY appreciate it! Thanks!

A:Cloned Win7 drive onto UEFI Win8 PC, 7D BSOD after cloning

Did windows 7 machine have UEFI on the mother board? You will find a baremetal backup with UEFI can be tricky when migrating to another board.

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First, thanks for any help you can provide. I
have Acronis 2013 Plus. What I am trying to do is image the disk of a Windows 7
machine (source) to a machine that had Windows 8 pre-installed (target - Gateway

I connected the Windows 7 drive to the new
machine (USB data cable), disabled Secure Boot, and enabled Legacy. Booted to
True Image and started the cloning of the drive. Everything seemed to go ok, but
as soon as it starts to boot Windows 7, it gives a 7D BSOD. (the same BSOD it
gives when I simply plug the source hard drive into the target and try to boot
from it).

The source HDD (win 7) boots fine in its
original machine.

*I tried the startup
repair that's included with the image.. does it matter if I use the one from a
disc instead?

I've been stumped for 3 days. If
anyone can help I'd REALLY appreciate it! Thanks!

A:Cloned Win7 drive onto UEFI Win8 PC, 7D BSOD after cloning

Not surprised. Paragon will help with that. Make Windows 7 bootable after motherboard swap

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