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Q: system builder vs. regular operating system

im looking to upgrade my desktop from an xp to 7. system builders are very cheap which concerns me. What is the difference from a system builder and the regular version

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A: system builder vs. regular operating system

Ok basic difference is that the system builder (OEM) is supposed to be sold with hardware only.

Other differences.
1. Retail windows can be removed from one computer and put on another legally.
2 System builder is tied to the Motherboard and is not allowed to be moved by Microsoft. I have in the past had to call in on a OEM where the motherboard went and was discontinued to get them to activate with the new hardware.
3. System builder will not upgrade VISTA like the upgrade version will do, It will do a clean install always except that it will do a upgrade of itself if started from within windows. Sort of like a repair install. If you boot off of it, it will only do a clean install and will offer to move your old windows and users folders to a windows.old directory.

That is the main differences off of the top of my head.

So nothing wrong with the system builder version for a new computer, It is what I used.

One other thing you will have to reinstall all your software and settings when you go from XP to Windows 7 as they do not do upgrades that retain those things even the upgrade version will move your old windows and do a clean install.

Good Luck

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Hey all! I am pretty new to this kind of Win7 issues, so I hope some of you will be able to help. Story goes...

After few hours of gaming the computer died. (It happened right after switching keyboards.) Now, on every setup BIOS(?) comes up with list of options (F2 enter BIOS, F11 boot options, F6 Flash etc.). After that a black screen with error message comes up: Missing Operating System.

I tried rebooting from USB (since I have no disk-drive) and I keep on getting the answer: Error Loading Operating System.

Any ideas?


A:Missing Operating System/Error Loading Operating System

All unlikely, but possible - (a) your HDD died. (b) your bios became corrupted (c) your HDD boot sector became corrupted (d) your HDD partition is corrupted.

Does the drive spin up when you switch on (feel it)?
Check the bios to see if the HDD is reported correctly and is at the top of the boot order.
Find a bootable CD - an OS installer, or create Easeus partition manager bootable CD http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm and boot from it. What does the HDD look like with Easueus?

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Hi there, am having a problem with a new computer system. Freshly installed with windows 10 Pro. Have attached the DM log collector files 2016NODE-17_07_2016_113804_88.zip

For the first week this system ran without problems. Left online for long periods copying network files and downloading etc. Then on July 14th began to suffer from unexplained system reboots after between 30-60 mins of being left without keyboard or mouse input. These don't happen while the system is in use and I've been able to confirm 6-7 hour periods of intense usage without any crash.

Each of the idle crashes comes up with a "The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck." listing in the Windows event review. Each of these reboots basically restarts the machine and comes back to the login screen.

I've downloaded the BlueScreenView minidump reviewer program to find out what drivers are involved and the results of these crashes are as follows :

Between 14/07/2016 and 16/07/2016

Bug check String Caused by Driver / Address

Unknown NTFS.sys +a63e0
Unknown tcpip.sys +1fb2c8
Memory_Management ntoskrnl.exe +142760
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL ntoskrnl.exe +142940
Memory_Management ntoskrnl.exe +142940
Page_fault_in_nonpaged_area ndis.sys +97860
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL ntoskrnl.exe +142940
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A:Regular System Reboots involving ntoskrnl.exe - on system idle

Have added an image of the BlueScreenView Analysis - it actually shows that in another two instances Bad Pool and Page fault - the ntoskrnl.exe was involved in the crash as one of two cited drivers .. so that means currently 8 of the 10 reboots have involved this driver I believe.

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Hey guys:

I'm an idiot!!! Last night I deleted my System Volume Information folder off of a Raid-0 set of hard drives. As I mentioned, this raid set is not drive with my XP on it. This is just a drive for storage of pictures, video, and other programs I prefer not to have on my C:\. I did take go as far as to turn off System Restore before deleting it. Now when I boot up I cannot access the drive at all. It tells me that "The drive is not formatted. Do I want to format it now?."

I don't want to do that and I am wondering if there is a way to create a new System Volume Information folder so I can access the drive again???


A:Deleted System Volume Information Folder on a Non-Operating system drive???

I think you are connecting the dots...where there is no connection.

Deleting a system volume folder...isn't possible by me, even when system restore is not used (I always disable SR immediately after a clean install). Even though the folders are empty and I don't have SR employed, the system won't allow me to delete these empty folders.

I believe that the problem is your RAID setup...perhaps you ought to try to repair it.


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"Missing operating system" massage is coming when i start my system and i am not able to start. I think because , i had given "mark partition as active" option for one hard dive (E) in disk management when last time i opened. it did not have any data. i did not know, this will make any problem. Now i am not able to boot windows re installation dvd also. i can only take BIOS settings. please any one suggest any way for rectifying this problem ASAP.

A:Missing operating system" error massage when system starts

Try disconnecting all drives except for your main drive and powering your system back up.

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Can you help me. I have a Inspiron M301Z laptop that originally had Windows 7, but I installed the free Windows 10 upgrade.
I needed to have a ?System Restore? after it finished and rebooted, I got the error message ?A operating system wasn?t found. Try disconnecting any drives that don?t contain an operating system.
A full diagnostic test found no problems.
I would prefer to reinstate the original Windows 7 and Dell drivers, but I assume installing Windows 10 removed the Windows 7 installed on my motherboard.
How can I reinstall an operating system?
Robert (kingsthorne50).

A:After system restore: error message ‘A operating system wasn’t found’

Did you run an extended (takes a couple of hours) diagnostic on the hard drive - or just the quick one?

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Please can anyone help?
In task manager I accidently closed an explorer process, the laptop then crashed. So I closed it down, then it now is unable to find the operating system. Can anyone offer any advice on how to help it find the files it needs to boot?

Can this be done by using the command prompt? Start up repair ran for over 24 hours with no success.


A:Operating system can't be found computer loading with system recovery options

Hi and Welcome to TSF!

Can you boot into Safe Mode?

Do you have your Windows Vista CD?

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I am having trouble with xp home edition operating system. Everytime I go into window, I immediately get this message "XP SYSTEM SHUTDOWN NT AUTHORITY SYSTEM" and the pc shutdown within 60 seconds. Please help - Thanks

A:[moved from Other Operating systems]Xp System Shutdown Nt Authority System

it sounds like the blaster worm virus i will move you to security,ms have a patch for it
follow the 5 steps here

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This morning I attempted to perform a system restore on my other computer. I legally own Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition and was using the 3 system restore CDs provided by my manufacturer at the time I purchased the computer. If it matters, the computer is a Sony VAIO AMD Athlon.

I inserted the disk before booting up the computer, and everything seemed to go fine. The system restore screen loaded and I chose to do the recommended system restore, erasing all the files from my drive and restoring to the computer's original configuration.

It began performing the normal "Restoring Drive C:" operation. About 20 seconds into the restore, I received this error message:
Disk Access: Sense Operation Failed

I hit "Okay," the only button available. I then received a message saying the system restore failed and my operating system may not perform correctly (what an understatement). I removed the system restore CD and rebooted my computer. I now get an error message, "The operating system has failed to execute." I can't do anything, except try to do another system restore, in which I receive the same "sense operation failed" error from before.

I tried calling their tech support to which I was told (after waiting 20 minutes to speak to someone) that because my limited warranty had expired, I would have to pay $19.99 per call to have it fixed. Yeah, right. Neither Sony nor Microsoft's online tech support pages were at all helpfu... Read more

A:XP system restore failure... operating system failed to execute

I would guess that your CD is scratched or unreadable for some reason or that the CD Rom isn't reading properly. Give it a good wiping.
I would just format and reload XP if you have a fully licensed disk. Takes 39 minutes or less and you'll have a nice clean install and you get to start over. However....... if you have only restore disks I am unsure as to whether you can do an install from them.

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If I change my operating system to linux and delete my old operating system entirely, will I be able to still use system restore to change my old operating system back?
Please help. All help is appreciated.

A:If I change my operating system to linux, can I still use windows' system restore?

The simple answer is no. If you remove an OS then you can not use it to do a restore because it is no longer there to run the restore program. What I would recommend would be to have a duel boot system.

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When i start my pc, i get a 30 second count down to either choose an operating system or system restore. if i choose windows xp professional, everything is fine. when i choose restore point, i get "INF file textsetup.sif is corrupt or missing, status 14. setup cannot continue. press any key to continue".
choosing last known best settings hasnt changed this situation either.
basically i just dont want to see this screen, it prolongs the computer start up. i just got it today as a refurbed hp desktop from buy.com. i tried system properties, advanced, startup settings and unchecked both boxes, as well as clearing the boot.iti file to no avail.
a rep at hp that was nice enough to just give me an opinion said i need the disk that came w the pc, which i obviously cant get. any ideas?
thank you so much for your time.

A:Choose operating system at startup-windows xp or system restore

You probably could purchase the disk from the manufacturer. They make a lot of money selling them to people.

Post the manufacturer & model of the computer, and verify the exact text of the message. That message is odd.

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OK, so I see decent deals for Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit (OEM) System Builder out there...

When installing this, can I use any Win 7 install disc and use the COA for activation?

OR, is there something special about the "System Builder" part where you have to use that particular disc?

A:Re: Win 7 OEM System Builder

You don't have to use that particular disc, you can use a downloaded ISO or other similar disc as long as it's not one branded by an OEM (Dell, Etc.)

Same version retail should even work, it's the product key that defines what type of install it is.

Those system builder licenses are tied to the first machine they are installed on so you can't swap it to a different computer later if you change your mind.

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Hey guys. I have an Acer laptop with Windows 7 that has crashed and will not boot. I do not have a Windows 7 CD nor do I have the money to pay for one. When my computer boots up, it says "BOOTMGR IS MISSING" and I press Ctrl+Alt+Delete and it loops back around to that page. I created a System Repair Disc and that boots up fine. When the System Recovery Options come up, no operating system is listed for me to choose. I can't do anything from here and I have not found any solutions so I came here. Any help is appreciated!

A:Operating system does not show up in System Recovery Options

Try this: Bootmgr is missing - Fix

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I installed a Windows XP Home Edition SP2 in my Windows XP Professional Edition. When my computer restarted I saw that I have 2 operating systems. I realized my mistake, so I did a system restore on Windows XP Pro. I had set it before I installed Win XP Home. When I restarted again, it then boot in Windows XP Pro.

While I was using the computer, it gave a warning that I was low of space. So I had my disk clean up. Then I did the Disk Defragmenter, it said I only had 14% of space and it wont be able to defragment because it needs at least 15%.

Is the Win XP Home still there? Or did the system restore delete it? If it's still there how can I delete it? What do I do?

A:Help! Does system restore remove an installed operating system?

i assume you installed it on it's own partition so format it

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I have been reading the forums and it seems that my win7 desktop has an issue with the system restore virus/worm/trojan. I was searching the web for information on teens huffing chemicals using Firefox & Google search. One of the pages began playing some annoying video, when I went to close it out I was presented with the same windows and warnings described in this post http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-windows-vista-recovery

normally I would not post on forums concerning issues such as this. I prefer to find the fix myself but the malware seems to have taken itself to a new level on my desktop. I cannot even get F8 to work. The computer launches the MSI screen that offers the press delete to get to the bios and tab to switch to post but only the delete button works then if I let it load all of the way I just get a back screen with the little DOS line flashing but I cannot type anything onto the screen. The only keys that seem to work are control alt delete to restart the computer.

I have been reading through a lot of posts on these forums concerning this issue but have been unable to find one quite the same as my present situation. It would be great to be able to save the information on the hard drive but I just spent a year in Korea and while I was gone my wife misplaced the backup and start-up disks for the desktop.

Is there any hope or should I just trash the hard drive and start over with the desktop?

Thank you

A:system restore virus operating system will not load

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While doing some heavy video work, I managed to overheat my system spectacularly, resulting in the smell of burning plastic, all my fans going at 100%, all lights on the PC going off and all buttons becoming unresponsive.
I pulled the side off to see what was going on and found a desert of dust in there. Possibly somewhat foolishly now that I think about it, I left it running with all the fans roaring away and directed my desk fan inside the case while I went and got the vacuum cleaner and an air sprayer and got most of the dust out. (Still with the system running. No, I didn't touch anything while doing this. The vacuum was held well out of the case, just to suck up the dust cloud.)
I then rebooted it and it died in exactly the same way soon after. Through subsequent repeated crashes, I have established that it goes off at roughly 1 minute and 42 seconds after the "Do you wish to enter Safe Mode?" screen is dismissed. Any delays (such as being in the BIOS) prior to and on that screen do not affect the timing.
Very oddly, safe mode works perfectly, and I can't see the bios complaining anywhere (not that I am remotely familiar with the BIOS.)
I have tried:
Booting normally - crashes
Booting into Windows Recovery - crashes
Booting into an Ubuntu LiveCD - crashes
Resetting the BIOS - no change
Taking the top fan off the CPU heatsink and removing the cubic meter of dust somehow compressed within the fins - The BIOS reported the CPU running 30C cooler than ... Read more

A:System blacks out less than 2 minutes after loading any operating system

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I have a HP G42 Notebook laptop preinstalled with Windows7.Yesterday i did a System Recovery using the HP utility as described at below link(Section: Recovery from the Windows 7 desktop screen):http://support.hp.com/in-en/document/c01867418But after recovery my laptop won't start. It shows a black screen on startup with below error:An operating system wasn?t found. Try disconnecting any drives that don?t contain an operating system.

Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restartThe laptop didn't came with a Genuine Windows CD/Recovery Disc neither i can download the Genuine copy of Windows 7 from Microsoft Site as its a OEM copy. I have checked with HP support team for Recovery Disc and they will get back to me after the availability of the same.I have a Bootable Live Linux CD using which i am able to run linux and able to view disc partition. Is it possible to create recovery disc on Linux?Is there any other solution which i can try?Note: Windows is not working

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Do you know anything, like what i should do?

Acer Extensa Laptop 1.9GHz 2GB 120GB

A:System continuously crashes when installing operating system

At what point in the installation does it crash. Like, what does it say it's installing on the screen when it crashes?

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Hi. My system has caught the "system security" virus where a screen pops up every minute or so saying my computer is infected. I ran Norton, didn't find anything. Ran Malware and 5 Rogue files were found so I thought it was gone but I rebooted and it is still here. Here is my HJT log:Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2Scan saved at 4:52:55 PM, on 12/28/2008Platform: Windows XP SP3 (WinNT 5.01.2600)MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6000.16762)Boot mode: NormalRunning processes:C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exeC:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exeC:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exec:\program files\common files\logitech\lvmvfm\LVPrcSrv.exeC:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXEC:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService.exeC:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\AluSchedulerSvc.exeC:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exeC:\Program Files\Common Files\EPSON\EBAPI\SAgent2.exeC:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXEC:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exeC:\WINDOWS\... Read more

A:"System Security" Virus - slow operating system

Please download RSIT by random/random and save it to your Desktop.Double click on RSIT.exe to run RSITBefore you click "Continue", make sure you change the List files/folders created or modified in the last 3 monthsClick Continue at the disclaimer screen.Once it has finished, two logs will open. Please post the contents of both log.txt and info.txt in your next reply.NEXTPlease download GMER and unzip it to your Desktop.Open the program and click on the Rootkit tab.Make sure all the boxes on the right of the screen are checked, EXCEPT for ?Show All?.Click on Scan.When the scan has run click Copy and paste the results into a Notepad >> save it and attach in this thread.Post me these logs in your next reply.. Post each log in separate post..1. RSIT log.txt2. RSIT info.txt3. Attach GMER result..

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Okay...just a quick question.

I have a system builder DVD of Windows 8 Pro which I installed on my machine.
My partner's laptop has windows 7 Home Premium and I just bought the online upgrade for Windows 8 Pro but after going through the download and checking stage I got an error saying something went wrong and the image was corrupt.

I don't want to have to go through the whole download and checking stage again so I was wondering if I can use the system builder DVD on the laptop which currently has Windows 7 Home Premium and input the upgrade key?

Was just wondering if the disks are same but it's just the key that's different? Just wish I could download an ISO, would be much easier and quicker!


A:System builder DVD and upgrade key?

burtie, you create a .iso during the download. Instead of Install now, choose Install by creating media.

Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant - Download and Run

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My system builder pack warnings refer to a "fully assembled computer system." I bought it to install on a new system C: drive, but I need to add two data drivers (D: and E later. Is that going to be a problem?

A:MS Win 7 OEM System Builder Version

Quote: Originally Posted by benellard

My system builder pack warnings refer to a "fully assembled computer system." I bought it to install on a new system C: drive, but I need to add two data drivers (D: and E later. Is that going to be a problem?

No problem. Adding drives should not trigger activation.

Are you one of those people who is breaking the System Builder license agreement by keeping the PC for personal use? Tsk tsk. I guess that you have lots of company.

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Recently built a new PC but had to order Windows 7 separately. I live in Austria and had to buy an English version online. Now it's arrived I'm not sure if it's the version I ordered - lots of abbreviations etc I don't fully understand.
The product description when I ordered says:
Microsoft, SWMSF Win7 Home Prem SP1 64-bit English 1pk 611 DSP OEI DVD
Language: English
Platform: Windows 7
Type: Full Version
Bit: 64 bit
License Number: 1
But the box it arrived in says it's a System Builder Pack (although the label says the same as above), which I understand can only be installed on one computer and can't be transferred to a new build.
Did I miss something in the description or have they sent me the wrong version?

A:OEM System Builder Pack?

The DSP OEI is what you see labeling it as the system builder pack. It means "Delivery service partner Original equipment installation"
Basically, its similar to the normal retail copy...Except tied to the computer, not the user.
So a retail windows copy, if you say, sold the computer later, you would keep the windows key. With this one its tied to the computer, so you dont get to use the key on another computer. Ive also seen microsoft people state that it additionally dosent let you change the motherboard, you cant use it to upgrade (Like upgrading from vista to 7.) and you cannot obtain free microsoft direct support.
Basically, you got a version of windows that is meant to be installed on a computer thats going to be sold to someone.

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What's the system builder?

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
(Full) - System Builder (OEM)

A:Solved: System Builder

It is version of Windows that is installed by someone or a company that builds or refurbishes computers or pre-installs software on computers before they are sold to an end user. The license is restricted to permit use of the software only on the computer on which it is originally installed and can not be transferred to another computer. The person or company that built or refurbished the computer or pre-installed software is responsible for all technical support and no end customer support is provided by Microsoft.

You can read all about it here:


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I am building a new system for a friend. I was wondering how do I enable the setup screen for a first time user after I have installed the OS and updated all the drivers and windows updates? Like how do I make it so that when I give him the system and he turns it on for the first time it'll ask him all the setup info like when you start a new computer for the first time.

A:Windows 7 System Builder OEM

That would be the Microsoft OPK install. You have to be a registered with Microsoft if I'm not mistaken.
Here are some helpful videos -

I guess I should add, why not just install and configure everything for him?

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I'm really new to this so go easy on me.

Building my own computer( took me forever). Had a problem when it was installing windows, blue screen, memory it said, I googled a few phrases and found a post where someone said that sometimes XP doesn't like multiple memory sticks when installing so I took one of the two out and started again.

Seemed to work, going through everything, gets to the point of asking me for my COA, I bought all my stuff from Microcenter, told the gentlemen I just wanted basic windows, it says Oem System Builder Pack on the outside label, thing was sealed, shipped from Microsoft looks like. I look where it says the COA should be, there is no sticker there, I've read everything in this package and every label, I'm either dumb or it's just not here.

I googled a bit of info and came across one forum post that said the way I'm installing it won't have me ever enter a COA.

So my question is did the first install screw up the process?
Did some factory worker forget to put a COA on my sealed purchase I bought from Microcenter?
Is there something else I'm missing here in regards to all this or what?

Thanks in advance.

Oh, it's Windows XP Home Edition SP2b if that makes any difference.

A:oem system builder pack

I found this via Google
WARNING: The certificate for the OEM package is on the shrink wrap for this product. Do not throw away the shrink wrap without removing the certificate first! Reseller is not responsible for any certificate lost.
Take it back to seller or
Microsoft System Builder Component Replacement Team. North America Phone: (866) 230-0560 - 5am - 5pm (PST). Latin America Phone: (866) 625-1435 - 6am - 3pm (PST). Fax: (661) 702-2944. E-mail: [email protected]

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I recently replaced a motherboard my HP desktop, since I changed the motherboard the hard drive wont read the windows 7 OS system, so I bought a new windows 7 program but they sent me a OEM system builder. Is that still windows 7 or not.

A:Solved: OEM System builder

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I see places like NewEgg and Amazon are offering System Builder's versions of Vista. I hear you need something called an OPK to install it on the system you are building. Is that true? If yes what is it and does it come with the software NewEgg and Amazon are selling?

A:What is a System Builder's version OPK?

OPK? Not an OEM?

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What is OEM?

Amazon.com: Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack: Software
I saw this on amazon. Does this lock into motherboard? and the retail version does not? I can barely afford this, let alone the almost twice-as-much retail version...so...what is this? How does this compare to the retail version of 7 pro? I dislike anything 'rooting to my motherboard'; virii do that.

A:Windows 7 pro OEM System Builder - What is this?

OEM is restricted to the original motherboard.

That link appears to be OEM.

Legal only for PCs intended for resale, but MS apparently does not enforce this often.

Sometimes, MS will allow you to use it on another board since boards do fail--if you are using the same model board replacement or happen to get a sympathetic person on the phone at MS.

Drop back to Home Premium retail unless you know you need features found only on Professional.

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Hello all, I am thinking of building a new computer and installing Windows 7 Professional. If I were to build it, I'd probably purchase the System Builder Version. Would I be able to still take and install images with that version? Is that version okay? Thanks in advance for your help!

A:Windows 7 System Builder Question

System Builder Version, means that the OS is tied to that machine forever. You cannot use that version of Windows 7 on any other machine. You may install it on the same machine 10 times if you wish and you make back up images to be restored on the same machine. Hope that helps. -WS

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I am in the process of building a new system and have chosen Win 7 as my OS. I still need to buy the OS, but I am confused about the terminology. I think that "retail" means a full version with all the support from microsoft. I posted previously and was told that the "system builder" was for a new machine and could not be transferred and that the builder was responsible for support. Does that mean that I can't call Microsoft if I have issues or use their online help? Is "OEM" the same as "system builder"? NewEgg has the system builder for just over $100, other sites have the OEM w/ full license (see outletpc.com) for about $120 and then Newegg again has the full retail for $190. I really would like to get by for one of the cheaper two.

Also, if I can (or should) use the system builder version, is it worth while to move up to the "professional" for another $33?

I am building a 64 bit system, for detail see my post in new builds.


A:confused - "oem", "retail", "system builder"

OEM is the the same product as "system builder". The licence is tied to the hardware of the PC it's first installed on. Two types of "Retail" exist, full retail and upgrade retail. The latter requires you to have a previous version of Windows installed or the CD/DVD available.http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/products/compareFor students:http://www.microsoft.com/canada/windows/di..._vanity_studenthttp://www.win741.com/EDIT: Deleted unnecessary quote to reduce thread clutter. ~ Animal

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Here is a link concerning the new OEM System Builder license. (Edit: Perhaps I should have emphasized originally that I am talking about the OEM System Builder [Personal Use] License even though that is what I linked to). Below is a snip of, to me, its key provision, although there are other important provisions allowing use on a second machine and sale to a another individual. MS always seems to muddy the water when it comes to the OEM System Builder license. Ignoring the VM possibility, the way I read the snip is that 8 can be used, for example, as one of the operating systems of a dual boot given installation on a separate partition. Do you think that this literal interpretation is what MS means. Why would a dual boot, for example, be required? And, why wouldn't one be able to install on a second drive--not just a separate partition?

OK fine, even if my literal interpretation is correct, then I, for one, am up for buying a Win7 computer, partitioning it, and going for the OEM system builder dual boot--thus extricating myself from the clutches of MS, my computer manufacturer, and crapware. Also, why not just buy a new Win8 machine and obliterate everything there--starting over with UEFI, if desired, and doing the dual boot.

My understanding is that MS is being pretty loose, at least informally, in interpreting its OEM System Builder license. I doubt that even, for example, the dual boot thing is an operational requirement. What would be the point?

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A:Win8 OEM System Builder License

Here's more for the System Builder EULA.


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Is the DVD for Windows 7 Home Premium System Builder the same as the DVD for the regular Windows 7 Home Premium?

Is it just the License key that is different?

If I install Win7 DVD from system builder can I use my regular Windows7 Key with it??

I have windows 7 premium pre-installed and I extracted the CD-Key. The computer did not come with a DVD for Windows 7 so I want to buy the System Builder version and use my extracted CD key with it.

A:[SOLVED] Windows 7 System Builder

Since Windows 7 came preinstalled on the system, there should be an option to burn one set of recovery discs. Check owner's manual or system manufacturer support site.

What is "system builder"? It sounds like OEM version to me, which is what you already have on your system.

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Recently, I downloaded Ubuntu and accidentally erased Windows 7 from my computer. I bought Windows 7 System Builder OEM disc the other day to restore windows. When I got my Windows disc today I saw that the "optical drive" on my laptop is non existent (it looks like there should be an optical drive or you could possibly install one in the future, but is not there). I inserted the system builder into another computer with an optical disc drive to create an .ISO of it, which I mounted onto a USB after formatting it with Rufus 2.2. I changed my boot order so that BIOS would load the USB first. When I did this I got a security warning, and Windows would not boot. 
I did not boot windows on any device yet (I'm aware that you can only do this one time because it ties itself to the motherboard). I chose the previous method of installation because a few google searches recommended to do so. 
Does anybody know what I should do in order to boot Windows 7 on my computer?
Acer Aspire V3-572PG 50S 1.
Currently running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
Previously ran Windows 7.

A:Windows System Builder - from disc to USB

I looked at the specs on this computer. Did this computer have Windows 8.1 on it originally? Are you planning on keeping Ubuntu. Removing Ubuntu, installing Windows 7 and then reinstalling Ubuntu would probably be the easiest if you plan on dual booting again.
If this computer came with Windows 8.1 you could install 8.1 free of charge and then update to 10. 

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Hey guys, got an interview with www.overclockers.co.uk as a system builder, just wanted to run over some stuff i might be asked in interview and you guys could sure help

Basically i want to revise all my PC building/compatibility knowledge

These are things i may be asked
Modern CPU's and Socket types (AMD and Intel)
Modern RAM types/What Chips are on what modules (Ie PC2-5300 = DDR2 DIMM form factor with 8 DDR2 662.5 (666) chips?)
Common Used modern mobo's, socket compatability, and ram compatability
Graphics cards - top of the range, SLi and Crossfire setups, Compatabilitys etc
Power supplies - I'm not too good here, could do with someone explain to me what is meant by rails to confirm my thoughts XD
And just any other stuff you guys think might be useful or things i may be asked in the interview

Many thanks in advanced

A:Gaming pc System builder interview

Are modern AM3 sockets such as phenom ii PGA or LGA? or is that just intel, im confusing myself xD

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I just bought a system builder full version of Win 7 on Ebay. Does any one know if there are any differences than the regular one?

A:System Builder version of Windows 7

Quote: Originally Posted by Case1

I just bought a system builder full version of Win 7 on Ebay. Does any one know if there are any differences than the regular one?

System builder???? from ebay??? Do you mean an OEM version?

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Just a quick question, looking at buying my step dad a copy of windows 7 to upgrade him from vista (shudder)

And came across this windows 7 home premium 64 bit OEM License and Media for system Builder Use.

And was wondering how the licensing works, and if it was single use if i can use it.

I tried looking on the net but couldn't get a sensible answer.

Thanks in advance


A:OEM License and Media for system Builder Use

All of Microsoft's OEM Licenses are for one computer only. It is tied to the motherboard of that one computer. To the best of my knowledge system builder is OEM.
Full Retail Licenses are for one computer at a time. Meaning you can put it on a 2nd, 3rd ect. computers as long as you remove it from all other computer.

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I just bought a Windows 7 Ultimate OEM system builder pack to install on a rig I am building. The authorized distribution and acceptance info indicates that as a system builder I accept the limitation that the system will be sold to a third party.

I'm concerned that if I am building this for myself and therefore can't sell it to a third party, I am going to have a problem properly registering and using this software.

Am I understanding this stuff correctly? Have I purchased software that I will not be able to use?

Thanks for your reply,

A:OEM System Builder Licensing Question

You should have no problems using the software, just activate it as usual.

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Can someone help me with what all software's do I need to create a system builder image?

I am interested in creating a system which works like everyday DELL's/HP's/SONY's etc where the HDD has a partition with an activate image of the OS. The boot menu lets you boot from the HDD by default but if the system needs to be cleaned (restored to factory defaults) it is as simple as choosing a option in the boot menu which simply installs the OS (activated i.e. no frequent activations) which still keeping almost every file I created personally.

Any help in this regards will be appreciated.

FYI, I am trying to build my own system using Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit and would like to keep an activated image of my system that can restored anytime I need to start all over again.

EDIT: I am only interested in going back to when the image was created. Ocassionally I would like to update the image when major service packs are released and tested.


A:How To Create System Builder Image?

Not sure what exactly you are trying to achieve here...
I use and recommend Acronis True Image for my backups...
But if you need it to keep all files you would have to synchronise your images on a daily basis otherwise your restore would only take you back to the last image created...
Add more details to what it is you want and we'll go from there...

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I'm wondering because from my understanding, System builder version is usually 25% cheaper than the upgrade version; so according to my math the Win 8 system builder should be $30. I have a pretty hard time believing this.

A:How much will Windows 8 Pro System Builder cost?

The prices you are referencing are the upgrade prices. The System Builder prices have not yet been confirmed, and I haven't seen anything referring to this 25% off for Windows 8.

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I am trying to reformat a computer and I bought a copy of windows xp from newegg.com. I don't understand at all the jargon on the front, can anyone translate it for me? I'm afraid to open the package because if I open it and it is the wrong thing then I can't get my money back. All I am trying to do is put windows XP on my computer. Do I also have to buy a preinstallation kit (OPK)?
There is a sticker on the front that states:
If you open this package:
Each individual software license inside this package may ONLY be distributed with a fully assembled computer system
If the individual software license is for a desktop operating system or application software, it also must be preinstalled on the hard drive of the fully assembled system, using the OEM Preinstallation Kit (OPK)
This preinstallation requirement does not apply to server software.
For more information about using OPK, and how to obtain OPK see http:www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/OPK/
The system builder who installs the software is responsible for the provision of end-user support


A:Help with Jargon OEM system builder pack!

No worries, OEM means it is one licence that is tied to the hardware it is originally installed on for life, so if you replace the motherboard or the whole computer, you cannot install it again. Ignore the OPK bs.

Install it!


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Hi, I have three operating systems on my pc. I only recently installed a windows 7 64 bit on a ssd but after doing so, I had to do a system image recovery to my windows 8 installation from a date prior to the new windows 7 install. This Windows 7 is not on the list of operating system options in system startup so how do I add it?

A:How to add operating system to system start-up list


Post the full screenshot of diskmgmt.msc and the result of bcdedit /enum all
Explain where your Windows 7 is.

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I am trying to do a system recovery back to the original condition and I have taken what I need to save. I have talked to HP tech twice and 1 told me I need to buy a special automated recovery cd from them. The other said not to do that and I need to use the two cds I have (1. operating system cd, 2. Applications and Drivers dvd). Operating system is Windows XP professional on a HP laptop.

I have completed the following steps. Can any one tell me if I am doing the right thing?
1)I put in the operating system cd and shut down the computer.
2) I started it back up useing the cd (by hitting any button when it asks).
3) I press Enter on the next menu to "set up windows xp now"
4) I press F8 to agree to license agreement
5) I press ESC "to continue installing afresh copy of windows xp without repairing". Below it has the following highlighted "C:\windows "microsoft windows xp professinoal"
Here is where I am unsure about what I am doing is correct. Below it has highlighed "C: partitional [NTFS] 95k < 18k MB free". It asks if I should:
A) set up windows on the selected item
B) create a partition in the unpartitioned space
C) Delete the selected partition

WHen I press D to delete the partion (I assume this means a complete recovery back to original conditions). It says this : "The partition you tried to delete is a system partition. System partitions may contain diagnostic or hardware configuration or other manufacturerd-sup... Read more

A:Question about using Operating System CD for system recovery

Yes, you can delete the partition; then create a new one in the same space and format it and continue the installation. The warning you see is just that you are about to delete the partition containing the current XP. The drivers CD will have everything additional you'll need, but after you regain internet access you may want to download from HP's web site and install the up-to-date drivers.

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I used to think that there was something up with the 'system' file running in processes because it often times dials out to something when I'm connected to the net.

Before my fresh reinstall and putting in COMODO 4, I attempted to block system but it gets to the point where after system has tried to get through for several days the computer stops functioning properly.

So this time I left system alone but COMODO, through it's own default set up, has been blocking something called 'system' and 'windows operating system' which persistently knocks at my firewall.

So I am asking, is COMODO, through it's own default instict, in the right by blocking these?

And if these are trojans, where can I find and delete them? My scanners don't pick up the files and COMODO will not show a path to the files that are making these attempts on my firewall.

A:System / Windows Operating System - COMODO

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My PC won't boot so I wanted to do a system recovery. But when I try to do that, my OS is not listed. I clicked on load driver but I couldn't find it there as well.

More details that might be helpful:
My driver shows up in the BIOS just fine.
I get no error messages when trying to boot my PC. (Just a black screen with a blinking cursor at the top left corner of the screen)


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Hi everyone... I'm here begging for your knowledge to help me out of this mess my computer has got me into.I'll try to keep it short.I got the blue screen of death on Friday night, for no reason at all. I made a vista recovery disk from Neosmart as I was getting nowhere with the F8 key.Everything went fine from these instructions HERE, recovery disk loaded and went through the motions... however when it got to the part with the System recovery options, I didn't have any system on my list.I also don't know where to find one in the drives... it just wants me to keep opening folders, so I can't even select the whole C:So I click NEXT.Nothing there in the following list works.I've seen a post simalar to this one on the site but here's where my problem differs.In the command prompt the directory isX:\Sources> and not X:\windows\system32which wont allow me to type in any prompts giving me this message everytime ' ...... is not recognized as an internal or external command, orperable program or batch file'Sooooo what do I do???Anyone that can shead some light on this, I'll be soooo grateful. I'd hate to have to reinstall everything and loose all my stuff and I've no clue how I could even back them up as the system wont even start up without the recovery disk.

A:Operating System missing in system recovery

I'm so sorry to bump... but could anyone pleeeeeeease help me with this, I've searched and searched all over the internet and just can't come up with a solution.


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