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Ideapad 720s vs Thinkpad x280

Q: Ideapad 720s vs Thinkpad x280

I am not sure if I'm posting this question in the right section. After signing up, I found it very difficult to work out where to post! Anyway, I am thinking of buying either an Ideapad 720s (13", core i7 8th Gen, 8GB Ram, 256 GB SSD) or a Thinkpad x280 (12", core i7 8th Gen, 8GB Ram, 512 GB SSD), and I believe they both have Thunderbolt 3. So I was wondering if there are significant differences between them. Where I am, the Ideapad is around the $1,000 mark, while the Thinkpad is about $400 more expensive. Is the Thinkpad really that much better, and if so, how? Thank you.

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Hi, Interested in buying the 720S 14 with 8th gen intel cpu and MX150,  but I can't find one to actually hold in my hands and get a feel for. I have seen other models in the 300 and 500 series and wondered if any of them are a close match for the 720s 14 in looks and build. This is in the UK if this makes any difference. Many thanks in advance Manco  

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I have the new ThinkPad x280. I need to be able to connect using a SIM card. My model is 20KF 001LV.  I am trying to figure out if my laptop model supports the SIM option, if it has a nano-SIM card slot or not. There is no indication or way to see in the settings.

A:Thinkpad X280 - nano-SIM card

X280 have a dual nanoSIM and microSD card tray located at the back of the case (check HMM on page 82 for more information). In order to use WWAN Internet connection, you also need a proper WWAN modem installed on the motherboard. Check if Fibocom L830-EB or Fibocom L850-GL is listed in Device Manager.





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I just discovered an X280 on German eBay <https://www.ebay.de/itm/Lenovo-thinkpad-x280/263717884422?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p206...>, and I have to say the screen looks really glossy. Might this be a fake? How to tell for sure?   

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Hello!I try to configure ThinkPad X280 with 16Gb RAM and cheapest processor  i5-8250U, but it is not allowed.Is it marketing or techical feature? Can I upgrade X280's RAM from 8 to 16 in future, if I buy cheapest version now?

A:ThinkPad X280: i5-8250U + 16Gb?

The X280 has RAM soldered to the main board so it can't be expanded or swapped out. If you need 16GB, buy the one with 16GB RAM.

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tl;dr Is the Thinkpad x280 flawless for Ubuntu 18.04? Hello. I recently acquired myself a X1 Yoga 3rd gen with the hopes that I would have a nice experience running Ubuntu. Unfortunately, from day one I encountered issues with it: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linuxhttps://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/X1-Carbon-Gen-6-cannot-enter-deep-sleep-S3-state-aka-S... Touchpad and trackpad work erratically after I close and open the laptop's lid (suspending and resuming). I need to reboot everytime.https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Thinkpad-X1-Carbon-Yoga-3rd-eratic-Mouse-and-Keyboard-... Others that I found about online after acquiring the machine:FYI - Linux May Not Support Thunderbolt Native Mode (seems to be solved)https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/FYI-Linux-May-Not-Support-Thunderbolt-Native-Mode/m-p/... Linux throttling bug (T480s)https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/870u0a/t480s_linux_throttling_bug/ And from Linux's side, poor consideration for touchscreens. Sadly, I have no choice but to return this machine next week. I feel these are nice machines in theory, and I would be willing to give them one more try. I was considering the Thinkpad x280 and I want to run Ubuntu 18.04 again. I would like to ask if any of these issues persist, or any other issues I'm not aware of show up when running Ubuntu, or any other Linux distro.

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I would like to connect two 24in monitors to extend the display across the two screens.  The user manual states that if you connect a monitor to both the HDMI and USBC then USBC will have priority.  I could not find any explanation as to how two monitors can be connected to enable extended display.   I assume one option is to purchase a docking station but I am hoping there is a less expensive option. Any help would be much appreciated. 

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Hello all, Long time thinkpad user from the W700 time haha. Just wanted to drop a line after recently getting a thinkpad x270 instead of the x280. I got a little worried with the design philosophy of the thinkpad x270 --> x280 lineage.  I got the x270 because of the bigger removable battery capacity along with the ethernet port among other ports.  I welcome the usb-c port in the x270 and glad to see more of that in the x280. But the fact that the x280 does not have an ethernet port along with a non-removable battery with the option to add the huge super cylindrical battery was a deal breaker for me and I see that the x280 was a step backwards in terms of a design / functionality standpoint from the x270. I am just getting a little bit worried about the design team and their vision for what the x2## series have in the future. The x280 seems to be just a cheaper version of the x1 carbon.  I have the x1 carbon btw lol. Got a few thinkpads... and I like the design for the x1 carbon and i think that to remain as it is...for the thinkpad x1 carbon. I dont want that spilling over into the x2## series. That is supposed to be a pure work horse mobile productivity device.  Anyway what do you guys all think about the direction which the x280 is taking from the x270 which I thought (referencing to the x270) was a pure great work horse laptop with an AMAZING battery life which is absolutely CRITICAL to the x200 line of thinkpa... Read more

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Hi everyone, I was setting up my brandnew X280 and after installing Windows 10 Pro I downloaded Lenovo System Update tool. It proposed a number of updates including a BIOS update and I let it do its job.Last I recall was the window about BIOS update where I hit enter (or ok).The noteboks was sitting in a docking station, battery fully charged. Next time I checked the progress the screen is black and the white power LED is slowly flashing (like being in standby). However I can't wake it up. It will just keep flashing.  As I can't take out the battery on a X280 what can I do? Pressing the power button for an extended period of time didn't do anything. Is there a hidden key stroke combination or do I have to wait a couple of days (weeks) until the battery has run out? I'm afraid the BIOS update failed and the system is bricked, even though I followed the instructions by the letter. Any suggestions are more than welcome! Thanks. Q.

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A:ThinkPad X280 , SIM card tray is a wrong from Lenovo . what I can do?

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Hi All!A few minutes ago, while cleaning my X280 noticed that the lower bezel of the display (the part between the Lenovo logo on the left and the X280 lettering on the right) is a lot more flexible than the rest of the bezels. Noticed while cleaning it with a soft cloth with a gentle cleaning solution appropriatefor displays.The other bezels (side an top) are noticeable more sturdy.DId anyone noticed this before?  

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Hello,I bought new X280 which has proprietary connector called Ethernet Extension Adapter Gen 2. I bought it to leave other ports ready for other adapters, but I have found out, that there is another USB-C port very close next to this ethernet port and when I put ethernet adapter into laptop's proprietary port, there is no space to put second USB-C connector.My question is: If I cut the border of Ethernet Extension Adapter connector, will the USB-C work? Or is there any reason to not to do that?Many thanks.

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Hi. I got my custom order X280 In July with all features for office purposes and use it just 15 times since then. The battery was never drain in shutdown mode in the first days of use. I remember that after one week being off the battery had the same percentage of charge at restart in the first month of use. Since then whenever I start it I check in Vantage if there are updates and I made the necessary updates every time, Windows updates, System updates, Bios etc. By about two weeks I noticed the battery is discharging between 6 and 8 percent overnight which is quite frustrating and annoying for a three month product. Something happened which consume the power overnight when is turned off. If they are Lenovo employees on the forum please advise me what to do. I would like to know is there is a warranty defect, something that can be fixed by the following updates or something that I can personally change in order everything come back to normal. PS. I have the USB ON disabled from Vantage Thank you.

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Hi there, when I undock my X280 from the Ultra dock (notebook closed but running) and open the lid the device will not respond to keyboard or trackpoint input.I need to close the lid again which triggers entering 'energy saving' mode.Then opening the lid again will resume everything to normal. I can reproduce this every time on two identical Docks. Funny thing is, my wifes identical X280 does not show this behaviour but works fine. Any idea what I could try to solve this small (but a bit annoying issue)?Thanks.Q.    

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Hi,
 
I just bought the Thunderbolt 3 dock and remembered reading that you have to make some changes in BIOS for the usb hub to be detected in linux. So I entered BIOS and disabled thunderbolt security and enabled some other thunderbolt feature (the one below thunderbolt security, the tooltip tells you to enable this for linux support and older versions of windows 10).
 
After saving and rebooting all I see is a blank screen and the fans start going at full speed.
 
The computer does not boot into my OS and I am not able to enter BIOS again.
 
Any ideas how I can fix this?
 
Is there a way to factory reset the BIOS without entering it? Usual solution here is to remove the CMOS battery but I really don't want to open my brand new laptop unless I know my warranty is still valid.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Moderator note: post was moved to the E forum based on original incorrect model in subject.  Subject has been corrected and thread moved back to X.

A:ThinkPad X280: After BIOS update, notebook won't boot anymore

It is not very difficult to remove the CMOS/Coin Cell battery on that system, just remove the main battery, and then loosen 3 screws to open the large bottom cover (see page 73 of the ThinkPad E560 and E565 Hardware Maintenance Manual for details on removing the cover)    Once the cover is open, unplug the CMOS/Coin Cell battery (you don't actually have to remove the battery), wait a few minutes and then plug it back in (see page 81 of the HMM for details). Doing so will not effect your warranty, but don't force anything and keep track of the screws.  

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I recently bought an Ideapad 720s, it was working smoothly without any glitches but suddenly one day after a Windows 10 update, it started having issues. First, I could not login, it said my profile was not found and then later when I fixed that my fingerprint as a sign in option does not work anymore. I wasn't facing these issues before the update. NEED HELP!!!

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I recently got myself an ideapad 720s. It seams I have some distortion on some symbols or in text in programs. It had happen even with the mouse cursor. Anyone knows if it is "normal"? Or anyone had experienced this siuation? Thanks

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Hi guys.So i bought an Lenovo ideapad 720s about a month ago, and since i got it i have been realy bothered by the fact that it is not leveled. It seems like the bottom left corner and the top right is higer then the two other corners. So everytime i lay my hand down to type i can clearly feel the bump caused by the lack of contact with the table. I have tried to bend the base of the laptop to fix it, but it dosent work. The problem might even be that the whole base is not flat, im not sure.Dont know what to do about this, and i really dont feel like sending my laptop to a service senter as it would take quite a while before i would get it back. But if that is the only option i guess i just have to. All sugestions apreciatedThanks in advance

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Hello,I'm thinking about buying this laptop and trying to verify that it supports USB-C DP Alt Mode so I can connect multiple (2) monitors using a USB-C dock. Thank you for you reply.

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Hello. I just purchased the Ideapad 720s 15" base model (8gb RAM and 256gb).  Link here: https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-700-series/Ideapad-720S-15/p/88IP70S0895 I'd like to add another ssd drive for storage and I was wondering if this model is compatible with the SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series M.2 2280 1TB SATA III.  Link here:  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147678 Thanks in advance.  

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is ideapad 720s 14" ram upgradeable?thanks in advance

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I would like to put my old hdd in Y500 into a new ideapad 720s. Is that possible? Do I need some cable to do that? Thank you for your help.

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Hi, I've noticed there are two models of Ideapad 720s 14" i5 8250u: 81BD000TUS and 81BD001NUS. Can somebody describe the difference? May be the difference in screen frame, e.g. and 

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Hi I have an Ideapad 720s ARR Ravenridge that came with the SK Hynix 256GB NVME SSD. Since I need more HD space I wanted to upgrade it to a news Samsung EVO 860 2TB M.2 which is SATA and not NVME.However the BIOS is not detecting the new drive. So i treid another M.2 SATA drive (Sandisk 128GB) and that also does not show up in the BIOS? So myquestion: Does the ideapas only support NVME drives via M.2? - that would be the 1st time I hear about this, usually it is the other way around

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Hello all, New to the forum. Just got my new IdeaPad and USB-C dock. Only issue I'm having is getting the power button on the dock to power up the closed laptop. Any ideas? Thanks, Scott

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I am looking into the mid-range IdeaPad 720s 15", which ships with 8GB RAM and 512 GB ssd.  According to the psref it has 4GBx2 RAM.  Does this mean that both ram slots are accessable for upgrade, and I could prelace them with two of these 8GB sticks?  Thanks in advance.

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Hi,I have new 720s - 13IKB with 8th gen processor and I'm trying to connect HDMI through USB C dock. I have Minix Neo C and iTec(with usb and HDMI). Both are working fine with Samsung S8, Asus Tranformer Pro 3 and Macbook Pro with LCD diplay and projector, but I'm not able to make it work with Lenovo at all. It seems that projector is able to recognise something in HDMI because it take few seconds at HDMI before it ignore it. I updated all drivers. I even tried VGA driver directly form Intel.Is there any known issue with it or any list of supported docks? I found tthat there was some update for Yoga 920 solving similar issue..

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Hi, I am looking for a power bank that is compatible with the Ideapad 720s model with the i5-8250U CPU and MX150 GPU.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks. RS

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Hi All, I have just purchased the Ideapad 720S and have been having a problem with the WiFi. I noticed that it would slow down and the network would become unresponsive while getting content from my NAS box. If I ping my router, I also noticed that there is a high latency which varies loads, never really going below 3ms, but sometime dropping a ping and often going up to 20 - 40ms +! I have tested the laptop on 2.4 and 5 GHz bands and the situation is the same. I have also tried a different Access Point, but the problem persists. My old 7 year old Dell XPS15 does not exibity this problem. I have updated the WiFI Driver (Atheros QCA9377) to the latest on the Lenovo Website, it shows as 12.0.0.295. I have also set the Power plan to max performance on the WiFi apapter. Any help with this problem would be appreciated, Thanks -Ben 

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I am adding a Samsung 960 EVO SSD in the extra M.2 port of an LENOVO LNVNB161216motherboard.The SSD is advertised at 3,200/1,800 MBps speeds. In my M.2 port, CrystalDiskMark reads only about half these speeds, topping out at about 1,800/1,500. Can I find out for nvme ssd PCI Express slot generation??Is it 'PCIe Gen. 3 x 4' Or 'PCIe Gen. 2 x 4' ??  

A:Lenovo ideapad 720S-15IKB

Hi acejjeon,
 
Welcome to the Community Forums.
 
Product specification:
Storage: M.2 SSD / PCIe 3.0 x 4
 
Hope this helps answer your query.
 
Regards

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Hi all. Recently purchased an Ideapad 720s. Very nice laptop but I have noticed that when it OFF charge the wifi is painfully slow. Works great when plugged in. Has anybody ever experinced this? A quick search doesnt bring up much info. Thanks in advance if anybody has a solution!

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I'm looking at buying the Ideapad 720s with 8th gen i5, but I'm confused by the screen description on the Lenovo site. It lists the screen as "14" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Anti-Glare with integrated camera". Anti-Glare sounds great, but I've seen a 720s in a reseller store and it had a glass faced screen, most definitely not anti-glare. Model listed at that store is 81BD000TUS. The latest model listing on the lenovo site with the is 81BD001NUS.What does anti-glare mean on this model? 

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Hello community, I recently bought an IdeaPad 720S-13ARR and noticed that the hinge is asymmetrical. I do not know if it is on purpose or if I have a defective unit. When the display is folded up, the gap on the left side of the hinge is noticeably larger than the gap on the right side. Also, when it is closed, the part of the hinge that is connected to the display sticks out more on the left.Otherwise it is working really nice.Has anyone else noticed this?Hinge leftHinge rightGreetings, Domi(Sorry if I made mistakes. English is not my mother tongue)


























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I have a brand new 720s that is awesome in every way...except the audio. It is fine when on battery but I get a background static or faint electronic buzzing sound when connected to power. I don't get this at all when running on battery, though the Realtek audio could be better. But the instant I connect it to the power I get the static. It is not terribly noticable when listening to something at high levels but it is annoying if charging while going to sleep to something (or if you just need a charge while listening to something). I have tried new and old drivers, disabling the Nvidia card, changing power schemes, every sound setting, different wall sockets (both grounded and not) and nothing stops the static when I charge.  Any idea from anyone, or Lenovo, if this is something known to occur, or something I just have to live with or is this a defect and something I should return the laptop for? 

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Hello - Is the turbo boost on the machine originally enabled or disabled? I saw another post with turbo boost issues, but wondering whether users could check or know whether theirs had it enabled or disabled? - Some people have reported fans pulsing now and again. Any update from lenovo on this? Thanks all

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HiI recently purchased ideapad 720s from online retailer, and as per lenovo page the display is of IPS type.However, the merchant page is showing LED type.How can I know the exact display type of my laptop?Here is the Manufacturer No: 80XC002YADRegards 

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Hi all, I recently purchased a Lenovo Ideapad 720s 15" FHD, and noticed something strange on my screen.There appears to be a dark shadow running along the top screen border.Is this an issue that I should be concerned about? The shadow appears in everything that I do, from Powerpoint to Chrome. Is there any way to fix it?The picture attached shows what it sort of looks like.  Any help is appreciated! Thank you!

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The fingerprint scanner does not work at times in my Lenovo Ideapad 720s.It is running Windows 10 home and all latest updates have been installedIt showing that the scanner can't start (Code 10 Error)

A:Ideapad 720s fingerprint not working

Hello MervynsajanThanks for using the Lenovo forums.Have a read of the following posting, see if any of these methods are able to help at all:
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-fix-code-10-errors-2623181
 
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I bought a Type-c to HDMI adpator. I could connect the Ideapad to a external computer monitor.But when connect to a TV, it cannot detect the TV. I have change different TV and tried different HDMI cables. but it still not work.Any idea what is the problem? 

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I got a couple of weeks ago an Ideapad 720s model  720S-14IKB | i7-8550U Quoting a friend from other forums: "Fan control on this laptop sucks. The fans are whiny, and the fan control algorithm doesn't have much (if any) hysteresis, so the fans are constantly changing speed if you have any kind of load." It's annoying enough to have colleagues in meetings making jokes about the laptop. I have :- Last version of the BIOS- I already tried the NotebookFanControl with the Yoga profile to no success. Any ideas ?  

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The fingerprint scanner does not work at times in my Lenovo Ideapad 720s.It is running Windows 10 home and all latest updates have been installedIt showing that the scanner can't start (Code 10 Error)

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I just got this model yesterday. Please look at the image and notice the gap between key3 and key4, also keyB and keyN. Should I make a replacement for this issue? 

A:Ideapad 720S(15'') keyboard gap is bumped

Hi J8Cutter3olo,
 
Welcome to the Community Forums.
 
Try to check if there is any issue with the functionality of those keys.
See if it is loosely in place.
 
It is best advise to have technical support check it for an appropriate recommendation so that you can decide how to proceed.
 
Hope this helps answer your query.
 
Regards

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Hey I bought this laptop yesterday and I love it. There's just one thing that bothers me and that's the sound when I hit some of the keys on the left side of the keyboard. Demonstration here: https://youtu.be/efnU210MY9U Is this normal? 

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Hello, So I am experiencing an isue with my Ideapad 720s. After starting my computer, I am able to plug in headphones to the 3.5mm jack and hear audio just fine. When I unplug the heapphones the sound will com through just fin but if I try to plug in headphones again no sound will come through them. The sound stops coming out of the speakers when headphones are plugged in and resumes when I unplug the headphones but no sound comes out of the headphones. The only way I have found to resolve this is restarting my computer which allows headphones to work the first time plugged in after a restart. As you can imagine this gets very annoying having to restart my computer every time I want to plug in headphones. I have clean installed the mst recent audio driver from lenovo but the issue persists. Any ideas? Thanks so much,Ken

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I have purchased the AMD version of the 720s and the only thing I'm not satisfied is the Wi-Fi being extremely slow. I have two questions, will replacing the Wi-Fi module void my warranty? Second, what module will be a good replacement that is at least on par with intel 8265(the module my last laptop has) that is compatible with this laptop?

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Hello, I am posting on behalf of my mom. Similar to some complaints of the Yoga Series her IdeaPad 720s screen is beginning to separate from the panel. Because I seldom ever use her laptop I've not really noticed. While trying to figure out an issue shes been having with some work software (electronic health records), I noticed that the bottom of the panel (in between the rubber seal and hinge area) is slightly exposed and is showing some of the innards of the laptop. She doesn't have the greatest eye sight, so she hasn't noticed. Is anyone else having these issues? Is there a fix or am I going to have to RMA the unit? She's only had the unit for about a month and a half.

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