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ACPI bug - affects X1C6, T480s, T480, T580, possibly more.

Q: ACPI bug - affects X1C6, T480s, T480, T580, possibly more.

Hello, There's a bug in the ACPI tables that affects all of the machines listed in the title. The bug causes heavy CPU usage on one thread due to frequent ACPI interrupts. The symptoms are a slow system, and high CPU temperatures (idles around 65 degrees Celsius). Some operating systems may mitigate the symptoms, but the bug is present regardless. The following circumstances trigger it:-powering on the laptop-waking from suspend (and possibly hibernate - untested) The following actions prevent it:-reboot the laptop (temporary fix)-disable thunderbolt in the UEFI settings (permanent fix - with latest UEFI updates) The official UEFI update changelogs for all of these machines make explicit mention of this issue: "-(Fix) Fix an issue where system may become hot by system interrupts when Thundrebolt is disabled in ThinkPad Setup - Security - I/O Port Access." Unfortunately, the bug was not actually fixed. The solution that was implemented is only a bandage for the "disabled" thunderbolt state. This patch should resolve the problem. This patch would then remove the bandage of the official fix, since it should no longer be necessary. I will leave that for your engineers to decide. These patches were made for the T480s, but should apply equally to all affected machines.

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 This bug deserves more attention than it is currently receiving. It should be pinned in every forum with an affected machine, so that the owners of those machines are aware that it exists. It is currently squirreled away in the T series forum, under the outdated title "T480s - ACPI bug". I have asked that the thread title be updated and received no response. I have to presume that Lenovo did not see my request (in which case, they'll see it now). It would also be nice to get some kind of status update. For example, I am still waiting for confirmation that the patches from the newer thread were sent to engineering (see this message).

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Hi,  We have recently discovered that acording to early adopters X1C6 throttles heavily. Please see this reddit thread for details. We are trying to reach out to as many X1 Carbon Gen6, X1 Yoga Gen3, T480s, T480 owners as we can to get more data on the subject. You can post your results here or in the reddit thread. Hopefully some comment from Lenovo will come once we have anough data to present.  Thank you,Will

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This post is partially to request assistance and partially to voice aggravation and disappointment. My old laptop was failing and I was in need of one for travel with WWAN capability. I initially bought an X1C6 that showed the WWAN card as enabled in BIOS. When I found out that the card was not present, I returned the laptop. After doing further research, I settled on a T480s that was WWAN upgradable, expectating a wait for the EM7565 with FRU 01AX762. Now the Fibocom L850-GL with FRU 01AX786 is available for new builds, but I cannot find where to buy it on the site or elsewhere; if this is not simply due to me being unable to navigate the poorly-designed Lenovo site, it effectively punishes anyone who ordered early. Finally, I tried my old EM7345 with FRU 04X6014 and encountered the 1802 error for an unauthorized device. Researching that further led to understand that Lenovo uses a whitelist - another punishment. I am now ready to return this laptop as well unless I can make some progress before traveling again. I would not be surprised if a class-action lawsuit were brought against Lenovo and any other manufacturers restricting individuals from making use of their own legitimately purchased hardware, especially when false or incomplete information is pushed by the company. If anyone knows where to obtain either LTE card, I would appreciate it.

A:X1C6/T480s WWAN difficulties

Looks like the Fibocom is available on the Lenovo Encompass site based on the part number you posted.
 
https://lenovo.encompass.com/item/11586506/Lenovo/01AX786/Wirelesscmbfbcl850gl

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I currently have T580 with pre-installed WWAN module (Fibocom L850-GL) and trying to get to work it on Linux. It works perfectly fine on Windows. So far I discovered that Windows driver uses PCIe protocol to communicate with WWAN module, but Linux is supported apparently only through USB protocol, and if PCIe is enabled, the module ignores all USB commands according to its hardware specs document (page 26) - https://www.mev-elektronik.com/files/MEV%20Elektronik%20Service/produkt-downloads/rf-microwave-wirel... Fibocom recommendation is to disable PCIe in BIOS, that is not supported by stock ThinkPad. Thus in Linux the device is only displayed as "Wireless controller: [0d40]: Intel Corporation Device 7360 (rev 01)" through lspci , and nothing on lsusb . Any suggestions how to make it work on Linux? As an alternative I'm considering getting another WWAN module, but it's quite likely it will not work due to whitelists. The only other module that is whitelisted for sure is L830-EB, that does not have global coverage and thus doesn't work in the US or China, even so it was reported that it's Linux-compatible (USB-mode only). Maybe there is a patched BIOS that has whitelists removed? Wondering if there are Linux enthusiasts who are also looking for a way of using WWAN.

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Hi there, I would appreciate any feedback on the actual difference between these T and L series laptops. I am returning to a Thinkpad (last one was T410s) after a few desolate years with the Yoga Pro 3. My usage is home business that requires regular videoconerencing and typical web navigation/document processing. Security features are important.  I have been anxiously awaiting the quad core 2018 releases as I was told by one of my IT guys that quad core best supports consistent high quality video.  I had assumed I would return to T series and didn't really even know the L series existed until a few weeks ago. As I'm comparing them though I'm wondering if the extra $ for the T-series is really worth it. I know all these laptops are  new so I don't imagine too many people have had experiences with them, but any research you've done or experience with their predecessors would be helpful. Last time I wandered from the T series I regretted it and don't want to make that mistake again.  I'm only looking at 8th Gen processors. Prefer the i7, but am curious if that will really make a significant difference over an i5 for my particular usage needs. Will buy with or upgrade to at least 16GB RAM. Do like the touchscreen but can live without it.  Thanks! Sean 

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Dear Readers, I am planning to buy a new Thinkpad T serie 14 inch and I am wondering which model I should pick.By any chance, does anybody know which housing (chassis) has the best build quality in terms of thermal design and fan noise? In other words which of the three housings will be running the coolest and quietest? Is it a good reason to think it should be the t480 because it has more room for airflow? Thank you in advance!

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Hello, I am looking for a laptop that is silent or almost silent, no heat that makes using the laptop on laps uncomfortablly hot and have no serious thermal throttling issues like the MacBook Pro 2018 models are experiencing. If I buy the T480 or T480s, which CPU do you recommend? I use it mainly for productivity applications. Thanks

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Hello, The T480s has a bug in the ACPI tables. The bug causes heavy CPU usage on one thread due to frequent ACPI interrupts. The symptoms are a slow system, and high CPU temperatures (idles at 65 Celsius). The following circumstances trigger it:-powering on the laptop-waking from suspend (and possibly hibernate - untested) The following actions prevent it:-reboot the laptop (temporary fix)-disable thunderbolt in the UEFI settings (permanent fix - as of UEFI v1.11) The changelog for the UEFI update v1.11 makes explicit mention of this bug: "<1.11> UEFI: 1.11 / ECP: 1.07-(Fix) Fix an issue where system may become hot by system interrupts when Thundrebolt is disabled in ThinkPad Setup - Security - I/O Port Access." Unfortunately, the bug still exists while thunderbolt is "enabled" in UEFI settings. I believe I have found the specific code that is causing this bug, as well as the solution. I would like to get in touch with a Lenovo engineer in order to help them resolve this issue. Thanks!

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Y700-15ISK Laptop (ideapad, 80NV)Newly installed Windows7 x64have unknown device ACPI\VPC2004have unknown device ACPI\INT33A3have unknown device USB\VID_8086&PID_0A66&REV_2780&MI_04???

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Hi, after clean installing Windows 10, Build 10586.0, there are two unknown devices in the device manager with the following details: ACPI\HPQ0004\2&DABA3FF&0ACPI\HPQ6001\2&DABA3FF&0 I am not sure whether these pronlems have something to do wirh the special HP-functions 'Hard Drive Protection' and 'Wireless Button' which are not supported by Windows 10 so far. There are no Windows 10-entries on the HP Support site for the notebook model 'ENVY dv6-7373ca', and HP Auto Detect can't find anythig either. Can anybody help? Regardskar1n













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A:Missing drivers ( ACPI\HPQ0004 & ACPI\HPQ6001), Windows 10

Hi: Yes they do. There is a W10 driver for the wireless button, and you can use the W8.1 driver for the 3D driveguard. http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?sp4ts.oid=6943827&swItemId=ob_150986_1&swEnvOid=4192 http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?swItemId=ob_125640_1  

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I'm looking at buying a new notebook and the X1 Carbon 6th Gen is on my shortlist. However, I am troubled by a couple threads on these boards: Fan always on & killing battery: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/X1-Carbon-6th-gen-Fan-Noise/td-p/4053561  Unable to go into deep sleep on Linux (I'll be using Ubuntu 18.04 -- novice user): https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/X1-Carbon-Gen-6-cannot-enter-deep-sleep-S3-state-aka-S... Can anyone confirm if Lenovo has addressed the 2 above issues? I'll be ordering a new machine within the next 10 - 14 days but will pass on Lenovo if these issues still persist.

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I've been trying to copy a large volume of files to the NAS.  Even though I have "Put the computer to sleep" set to "Never" when plugged in, it still sleeps after some time and the copying stops.  Very frustrating.  Anyone know the way to keep it awake?  I do have the screen blank, but that shouldn't affect it.  Stil, I temporarily change screen blanking to never in order to test. Event viewer says: The system is entering connected standbyReason: Idle Timeout. So the system doesn't seem to obey the user sleep setting!





. . . . . Zeke . . . . . X1 Carbon G6 (current), P50, Win10x64 (2 yrs) . . .T510, Win7x64 (previous 6 yrs).

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Lenovo chat agent told me that they have the same keyboard but obviously they are not as the one in the X1 Yoga 3rd gen is retractable. in some reviews, reviewers mentioned that one is better/more comfortable to use than the other. Which one is that? Also, which has no/less heat, noisy fan, thermal issues? I am a programmer and a writer. If I get a WQHD screen, will it be too reflexive to use?

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I've been troubleshooting random errors (most of which were resolved when I corrected the jumper settings for the CPU), mostly freezing during bootup or problems with the ATA RAID driver. My original set of problems can be found here: http://forums.techguy.org/t247393&highlight=acpi+uniprocessor.html
The computer still freezes one out of every 4 bootups while the Windows splash screen is showing, and I have gotten the occasional blue screen ("Driver IRQ not less or equal" the only recurring one). A friend of a friend is certain that the problem is the HAL driver, and I'm curious about what the difference between the drivers is.

My AMD XP 2500 Soyo board (single processor board) under Win2K SP4 is using an ACPI Uniprocessor setup... he says it should just read "Advanced Configuration Power Interface (ACPI) PC"... is there a difference? Is it possible that I should switch to the second one to change any issues my computer might be having?
If not, what should I be looking for that might be causing the freezing on bootup?
 

A:Difference between ACPI and ACPI Uniprocessor

anybody have an answer?
 

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I'm posting this for others considering this model.  I was cautious given all the complaints about heat, fan, throttling, TB3 Dock issues, etc., etc. After several days setting it up and using it and one day with TB3 Dock connected, I have nothing but positive to report.  It came with 1.22 BIOS and I'm hesitant to update as no problems are evident.  I will ask in a separate thread about that. Temps run between 50 and 70 Centigrade.  A bit warmer than my P50, but I guess still in normal range.  Fan does run, probably at lower speed.  I can't hear it unless I put my ear close or feel the hot air coming out of the right side.  I am using only a single monitor connected to the TB3 Dock.  I tried using the laptop screen and the monitor as extended (dual monitors) and it worked fine.  I'm connecting the monitor to the Dock by HDMI.  I ran the X1 at work yesterday on battery.  9:00am to 6:00pm and still had 30% left!  Moderate use.  I'm not always on the computer at work, but still....! Anyway, I would have appreciated a post like this when I decided to take the risk and order one.  I know forums typically only have problems, but it looked like worse than usual.  I hope this is reassuring to someone. Cheers!   





. . . . . Zeke . . . . . X1 Carbon G6 (current), P50, Win10x64 (2 yrs) . . .T510, Win7x64 (previous 6 yrs).

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Apparently some people have this problem of getting permanent keyboard marks on their screens. Obviously applying enough pressure on the surface would do this, but for normal usage, is this something I need to worry about?

A:Keyboard marks on X1C6?

I had some marks that were hard to clean off on my old X1 Carbon Gen 3 after about 2 yrs of use. During that time I took a two-month trip and the backpad design may have applied a lot of pressure on the covers while I flew between Europe and Canada.

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Dear all, I just had my SSD replaced by Lenovo after a firmware update nuked the drive. I used the Lenovo USB recovery key software to obtain the original image file for my laptop and just reinstalled & updated everything. However, i'm finding out that the monitor is now recognized by windows as a SDR monitor and not for the HDR capable display that it is. Where I could view the windows test video and select Youtube video's in EDGE before, now I can't. Also all the Wide Color Gamut options in Lenovo Vantage don't seem to have any effect anymore. Things i've tried- Windows is updated fully- All drivers are update through lenovo vantage- I manually reinstalled the monitor driver from the lenovo support website. The device drive shows the monitor as the Wide Gamut .... monitor This feature worked flawlessly before the SSD swap/reinstall. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Hello,I recently picked up a 6th gen X1 Carbon and have been having intermittent issues with a second monitor connected via the USB-C port.I currently have two displays set up, both Acer 20" with DVI and VGA female ports. One monitor is connected via HDMI out to DVI in and the second via the USB-C out to converter (VGA in) and then out to monitor VGA. Most of the time this works fine and I've been able to set up to get full HD on each. Intermittently though the right monitor (USB-C>VGA>VGA) loses signal prompted by moving some application (eg, FF browser, VLC) to the second monitor, but this doesn't happen with all applications nor even given applications each time. As this only happens when prompted by moving an application I'm guessing this is some driver/hardware quirk.I tried a Google search as well as pouring over the forum but didn't turn up much. Are there known issues with dual displays on the X1C6 and/or any known remedies? Also, are there generally preferred out ports people use to connect dual external monitors? HDMI seemed like the natural first choice but I'm not sure if there's a preference otherwise from the bevy of USB ports.Regards,Chris

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Hello, I am considering between X1 Yoga (Gen 3), X1 Carbon (Gen 6) and X1 Extreme. Since we don't know about the X1 Extreme yet, I would like to check the specs of the former two. I want the laptop to be able to drive a 4K TV/display at 60 Hz with Chroma 4:4:4 and also charge using another port at the same time. I may also use eGPU later. For these two laptops, which one(s) have both USB-C Thunderbolt 3 ports that can run at full speed of 40Gbps independently at the same time?

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Hello, I need the Drivers for install die Device with Hardware ID ACPI\BCM2F36 I think that this is the NFC Driver. I can't find anything. Regards


























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Hi there everyone, Does anyone here have a comparison of the battery life for the 3 different screen options for the US launched yoga models?  I'm just trying to figure out what the battery life hit is like between the screen options, but my google-fu is failing me. Thanks!

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Hi there, i recently bought a new X1C6 with i7 8550. I wanted to use it for university and as a midrange gaming station (egpu) at home. But my plans started to fail as i got fps drops in almost all games. I did some information gathering and saw the following: At first the CPU starts to boost to pl2 (29W) for 30s or so. After that it drops the TDP to 23W (thats pl1). After a while i can see in hwinfo64 that the pl1 slowly starts to drop to 13W without any reason! My temps are pretty pretty good even at 29W it barely touches 90C and at 23W it hovers between 70 and 75C.Is this normal behavior of U-CPUs?Can i do something to prevent dropping? 

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Everything seems to be running fine.  Temps between 50 and 70 C, both standalone and docked to TB3 Dock.  Anything in 1.25 that would suggest I should update? Thanks, 





. . . . . Zeke . . . . . X1 Carbon G6 (current), P50, Win10x64 (2 yrs) . . .T510, Win7x64 (previous 6 yrs).

A:Upgrade X1C6 BIOS from 1.22 or don't poke the bear?

Entirely up to you.  The README is your friend.
 
https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles/n23uj08w.txt
 
 
[Important updates]
Nothing.

[New functions or enhancements]
Nothing.

[Problem fixes]
- Fixed an issue where BIOS POST might display the error message "Boot Manager recover
from an error."
- Fixed an issue where BIOS POST might display the error message "1802: Unauthorized
network card is plugged in - Power off and remove the network card (8086/7360/0000/0000)."
- Fixed an issue where ThinkPad surface temperature is higher than designed.
- Fixed an issue where Lenovo USB-C Travel HUB might not work in Windows 10 ver 1703
or older.
 
 Z.

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Lenovo Facebook support sent me here to post the issue as they expect it to be a Firmware/Driver problem: There is a serious compatibility issue between the T480s and the iPhone8 - tested on various units of both devices, with various cables. All BIOS/FW/SW/Drivers on both devices were updated, issues remain before and after Updates: It is not possible to connect iPhone8 via USB to T480s - or only after several attempts or a reboot. On the right USB port connection goes on and off in seconds, on the left port charging connection remains stable, but no data connection is posible. We tested this with 4 different T480s, 6 different iPhone8 models and various different cables - therefore it is definitely a FW/Driver Issue on the Lenovo side - as the phones work with any other Notebook. If the phone however is attached to the right port while the Notebook is booting, iPhone8 asks for authorization (while T480s boots) and then everything works fine. Lenovo Facebook support says this clearly points out to a driver/firmware issue. Trying to plug in the USB port not all the way in but leave a 2-3mm space before the USB cable fully contacts the port (as suggested by Lenovo Facebook support) does not help. Sooo there we are - we tested and replicated this issue with several brand new T480s-machines (core i5-8350U) and a number of different iPhone8 with different cables. What solution does the Lenovo engineers propose? BestCarLazar

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Hey,I bought the new X1C& about a month ago and so far I'm really happy with it. However, there's one thing that starts to annoy me more and more If I "soft-tip" the right side of the touchpad, there is a relaltively loud clicking noise. On the other side it seems normal. I am curious if other X1C6 experience the same behaviour and I wanted to ask if there is anything I can do about it.Here is a video of the clicking noise in comparison to the normal side:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1Y9kH4U5Wo I know it's complaining on a high comfort level but small things like this can be annoying in daily use. Best regards!

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Greetings fellow Thinkpadders. I received my X1C6 about two weeks ago, and all is well except the fingerprint reader. I am patched up to date according to both Windows Update and Vantage, and that has included two BIOS updates since I first unboxed it. The fingerprint reader does not come back after a sleep or hibernate. That is, if I Restart, I can log in with my fingerprint -- the white LED is on and so forth. But if I suspend and resume, no white LED, and fingerprint doesn't work at Windows Logon -- I have to use my PIN or password. Vantage's hardware scan shows nothing wrong. Any hints or advice appreciated. Serial# PF0YSFED, Product# 20KH002KUS, BIOS N23ET37W 1.12, Windows 10.0.16299 (Build 16299)

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Looking at the HMM for my 20KH I am trying to understand what the 'Proximity sensor connector' (p.54 in HMM) is for? It appears to connect the WLAN to the audio card? Why is this?  I am trying to work out if this is the cause of some interference I am experiencing when using the audio jack on this laptop.

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I have a relatively recent P50 with Win 10 Pro.  Any chance I could image the drive and restore to a new X1C6 and save a weekend?





. . . . . Zeke . . . . . X1 Carbon G6 (on order), P50, Win10x64 (current 2 yrs) . . .T510, Win7x64 (previous 6 yrs).

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Anyone finding stability with the X1C6 and the Ultra Dock to not be perfect?  I'm finding sometimes the laptop won't wake from sleep properly, requiring me to hit the power button on the dock (to put back into sleep) and then to hit the power button again (to wake it up, which usually resolves the issue).  Sometimes when it wakes from sleep, I lose my background (just a teal colour) and it goes to a black background (which I can revert back to teal right away in my desktop options).  Also, every time I wake up, I find all my open apps are now only on Monitor 1 instead of where I left them (some on Monitor 1, some on Monitor 2) requiring me to spend a few seconds reorganizing.  Finally, I find that each time I wake up, some (not all) of the icons in my taskbar next to the clock begin to get blurry, with each wake worse until I log out / log back in.   I do keep the laptop in clamshell mode when docked, with only my two external monitors in use and I have the laptop set up to not sleep when I close the laptop lid to ensure clamshell is as stable as possible.   All of my drivers are up to date, and I am on the Windows 10 April update that just came out (but the issues began before the update).  I never had issues like this on previous ThinkPad models with the previous Ultra Dock or OneLink Plus docks. 

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Hi allJust wondering of users of this laptop, what their thoughts on it were? How's the screen (stats like sRGB, AdobeRGB etc. would be great)? How is the MX150 GPU? Any throttling during games? How are the thermals?Thanks in advance 

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I can't figure out for the life of me if a t580 allows for FDE and how to make it work.  Forgive me if this has been asked before.  My machine is a 20L9001TUS type with a 1 TB hard drive.

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I have a T580 and the lid opens too easily. The lid moves if I move the laptop a bit. Is it possible to tighten the lid?

A:T580 The Lid is too smooth

It seems you are uncomfortable with the lid.It's impossible to tighten it unfortunately. You may have to deal with it.Maybe a little design change for Lenovo eh?

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Hi everyone, basically I have the same problem as previously mentioned in other threads, but the solution providied, isn?t applicable for my case. The fan turns on if  you?re only webbrowsing or doing some editing work in word, which obviously shouldn?t be the case.I run Win10 Pro. All updates and drivers seem up to date, at least Win10 says so.How do I check if it?s really the case? BIOS is 1.09. Setting the battery plan doesn?t have an effect. Coming from a reddit post, ist was suggested, that I should ask @someotherguy if a solution he proposed for other models, also works for T580. Everything is explained in the following reddit  thread. http://reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/8f24ki/t580_fan_turning_on_cpu_10/dy1cw9u Help would be greatly appreciated. Please note, that I am not as tech?savvy as you are, so please keep it in mind, if you?re answering(read: talk to me like i?m an idiot ) ? 

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I'm thinking of buying a T580. The teardown videos show a card type M.2 solid state drive in place. Will my 2.5" Samsung 850 Pro 2TB SSD fit? Will I need any adapters?

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Hello,I'm interested in buying a T580 thinkpad and got some questions: 1. does the 4K display consumes more battery power than the FHD display? 2. for those customers with 4k display - are you satisfied with that choice? (are the fonts readable)2. in reality, how long does the battery last with standard use? (with all types of rear batteries)?3. how is your overall impression of this model? Thanks, Johnny 

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Hello, sorry for posting these basic questions but I've done some research and I want to make sure that I make the right decision when buying a new T580. I've been out of the loop in tech for a few years now, and I'm just learning now about hardware BIOS whitelists, etc. I want to buy the most basic T580 model and make sure I can upgrade certain components later on when I have the money available to do so.  1) Can I upgrade the basic model with the i5-8250u / 4GB RAM to 16GB of RAM later on? PSREF says yes, up to 32GB, and I've watched videos that say there are two slots for RAM available. Just want to make sure there is not any limitation and that I can upgrade later on to at least 16GB. 2)I already have a Samsung SSD - SATA III 2.5 inch. Since this model has a 2.5 drive I assume I can replace it with mine. But am I limiting myself in anyway for future updates if I don't get one of the NVME drives now? 3) I would possibly like to get the WWAN card later on. Is it possible to buy and add one later on?  4) Will this computer run dual 4k external monitors, should I ever get them?  Since money is very tight, my only priority right now would be to get the stuff I cannot add later on (3840 x 2160 screen, possibly graphics card but would have to bump up to 8350u).  Thanks!

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I have a brand new T580 in front of me. I am trying unsuccessfully to boot it from a USB stick. In case it makes any difference I am trying to do this before ever booting into Windows. Here is what I have tried. First attempt: Power On; Hit Enter at Lenovo splash screen; Hit F12 at Startup Interupt Menu; Select my USB drive from list; Hit Enter; screen goes back for about one second and then the F12 menu reappears like nothing happened. Force power off by pressing and holding the power button. Second attempt: Power On; Hit Enter at Lenovo splash screen; Hit F1 at Startup Interupt Menu; to eter the BIOS Setup. Disable secure boot (Security > Secure Boot). Save (F10); repeat first attempt. Same result. Third attempt: as before except that I additionally set Startup > UEFI/Legacy Boot to Both and tried again. Same result. Fourth attmpt: as before except that I changed the boot priority to put legacy first. Same result. Fifth attempt: as before except that I set  Startup > UEFI/Legacy Boot  to Legacy Only. Same result. The USB stick has Grub on it and boots Linux distributions. It works in about a dozen other machines that I use it on regularly.  I tried two separate USB sticks and I tried both USB ports on the right-hand side of the computer. If I can't get this to work then it's going back. I am stuck. Please help!

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I'm about to order a T580 today and I see there is a choice of "6cell Battery 48Wh Rear" and "3cell Battery 24Wh Rear". Does anyone own the 48Wh battery for the T580 (or T570) so that they can confirm if the 48Wh batter sticks out at all? I want a battery that does not raise the laptop. Also where can I buy a second (spare) battery that is exactly the same as the "6cell Battery 48Wh Rear" and "3cell Battery 24Wh Rear"? Thanks in advance. My first post!

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Please advise if Lenovo can deliver T580 with preinstalled Windows 7 Professional as out of box delivery so save several tinkering hours at user's garage. It had been tremendous performance issues with T570 with Windows 10 resource hog experience. I would not prefer to run Windows 10 again on T580 - high performance machine hogged by Windows 10. If Lenovo could pre-install downgrade option out of the box that would save several hours of research by end users, T580 with Windows 7 would perform more stable and solid provided if they have enabled all the drivers to function properly.  This has been hugely frustrating experiencing to deal with T570 machine running Windows-10 Pro, I had to dump the machine. I dont have much confidence to run T580 on windows 10 pro, it would not even match T520 machine ( 7 years old machine) running on Windows -10. Looking forward for the solution, request Lenovo team to enable Downgrade option as part of the customization to save users's time and stable user experience. If Lenovo Does not deliver out of the box, first thing to do after the machine is to wipe out Windows 10 to install, Please let us know if the drivers available or I would be placing a ticket to go through 100 steps to get it done.  Thank you,Mamba.

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I'm about to order a T580 today and I see there is a choice of "6cell Battery 48Wh Rear" and "3cell Battery 24Wh Rear". Does anyone own the 48Wh battery for the T580 (or T570) so that they can confirm if the 48Wh batter sticks out at all? I want a battery that does not raise the laptop. Also where can I buy a second (spare) battery that is exactly the same as the "6cell Battery 48Wh Rear" and "3cell Battery 24Wh Rear"? Are there any accurate pictures of the 6cell 48Wh battery online someone can send me a link to? Thanks in advance. My first post!

A:Battery for T580 (T570)

Take a look at the parts list website.  It has pictures too.  Sort by rechargeable batteries on the left side check box. https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-t-series-laptops/thinkpad-... Also here is a video of the 6 cell i found on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhOKGcf56-c





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Hello- this is my first post to the Lenovo community forums. I just received a brand-new T580, custom ordered directly from Lenovo. If it matters, this was supposed to have a 500GB spinning disk and 16GB SSD (Intel Optane PCIe). Windows 10 was the only option for pre-installed OS (Professional, in this case). This new machine will not boot and has yet to boot. I received it on a Friday afternoon. Once I unboxed and charged it and tried to boot, tech support conveniently closed for the whole weekend. I opened a ticket in Lenovo's MTSA (yet another account to open), with no response. Now I am turning to the forums. I installed the battery and charged it, then attempted to boot. My first attempt resulted in INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE, then rebooted. The same thing happened again, then started "Automatic Repair" Automatic Repair (a/k/a Startup Repair) did nothing, probably because there is no existing image to revert to or older version of Windows to fall back on. I get the following errors: "System Restore: To use System Restore, you must specify which Windows installation to restore. Restart this computer, select an operating system, and then select System Restore." (Of course, that does not happen-this is a brand-new laptop) Then "Re-image Your Computer: An internal error occurred. The following information might help you resolve the error: STATUS_WAIT_2 (0x80070002)" (Good luck!) I ran all the Lenovo diagnostics, and they all pass with flying colors. I also like that my display... Read more

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Hello everyone,I'm planning to buy my first Thinkpad, probably a 8th gen Intel processor one. I read this on the T580 specifications sheet : "System has one HDD slot or one M.2 2280 slot exclusively for storage" but that doesn't seem clear to me.I found here someone else who as the exact same, unfortunately unanswered, question :System has one HDD slot or one M.2 2280 slot exclusively for storage. Why I cannot use it with dual drive setup. One fast but low capacity PCIe NVMe ssd on the M.2 slot and another high capacity hard drive on the regular 2.5" HDD bay. Why one or another but not both? I couldn't find a simple and clear answer to that question

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HiMy new T580 thinkpad restarts anytime while I'm in the middle of working on several windows.I disabled Automatic Restarts option but it still takes over with an Orange Screeen and Restarts. While it takes less than a minute to recover - this is an annoying interruption. Help Please.

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Brand new T580 (20L9) and feel like I have had batter problems from the start. I have updated all there is to update to try to solve the problem but now have hit a dead end. Battery 1 currently says 0% and not charging and does not recognize it anymore I think.  Where do I go from here? I have looked around and seen other models with similar problems but nothing seems to come to a clear conlcusion on how to solve this.

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