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W2K vs Microsoft FF Pro joystick

Q: W2K vs Microsoft FF Pro joystick

I recently installed W2K Pro on my old PII 450 only to discover that Bill Gates decided not to support the Microsoft Force Feedback Sidewidner Pro joystick. I have able to make W2K recognize the stick but cannot install the software to set up profiles for games. Does anyone know if there is a utility out there somewhere that will allow me to work around this problem?

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A: W2K vs Microsoft FF Pro joystick

have you tried the Sidewinder home page?


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I have a Mirrosoft Sidewinder Pro joystick, It works well with MS 98, but having recently installed XP I find that it is not supported by my new operating system. (I love XP, but you would think Mirosoft would have upgraded its own drivers,) I was wondering if any one else has found a solution to this problem.. Figures I would have a 80 dallar joystick I can't use anymore, I guess I can always buy a new one, but I don't think I should have to.

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I own a Microsoft Sidewinder Pro, it is of the style that hooks up to my Soundblaster Soundcard (not USB) . When I upgraded to XP I found out that it is not supported by XP. (worked fine on (98) I was wondering if anyone has had the same problem, and if Microsoft is going to supply any drivers to help this problem. I hate to get rid of a 75 dollar Joystick, (microsoft at that) because Microsoft does not support it on XP

A:microsoft Sidewinder Pro Joystick

This thread (from a different forum; unaffiliated with TSF) seems to have a working solution.

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The joystick won't operate when any of the profiles are loaded. Why?

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I recently bought a Microsoft Side Winder pro forcefeed joystick (this is the one i purchased http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250391958482)

I then bought a Analogue to USB gameport converter because my laptop doesnt have a gameport (the exact converter i bought is here http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=23256)

I then plugged the joystick into the converter and the usb converter into my laptop. it seemed to auto install fine but their are 4 modes:

1.if you use TM - FCS or your controller is compatable
2.if you use CH FlightStick Pro or your controller is compatable
3.if your controller is compatable with 2-4 axes and 4 buttons
4.if your controller is compatable with 2 axes and 8 buttons

I assumed it was mode 2 and tried it and didnt seem to work (i tried it using microsoft flight simulator 2002 and it didnt respond)

I then went into the Control panel> Game Controllers and tried to configure it using the properties> settings options but the stick didnt seem to respond at all.

Any help you guys could give on how to get this configured id greatly appreciate it.

Forgot to mention im running windows vista basic



A:Microsoft Forcefeed pnp joystick not working

FF Pro doesn't work under Vista. If I remember right, it didn't even work under XP. For sidewinder, you need at least a FF2, (which replaced the Pro,) and even that doesn't work 100%. Your adapter won't allow force feedback anyway.


Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is a USB joystick that is supported under Vista. Amazon has it for between $20-$25 US.

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I recently built myself a gaming computer, I then decided to hook up my old Microsoft Sidewinder joystick to play some flight simulators; upon doing this my computer failed to recognize the device. What could be a cause of this?

A:Microsoft Sidewinder Joystick Problems

if your joystick is usb plug n play then it should have found it. if not usb and plugs into a sound card then you will have to load the driver cd. only other thing could be that the usb cable end is bad or the stick itself. you might try a restart but I doubt that would make a difference on usb. bottom line sticks are cheap. Logitech extreme 3d pro can be had for $25.00 dollars just about anywhere.

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Microsoft Sidewinder Precision Pro joystick still alive using it for Windows XP I have used it a since 2006 - Present.

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I am trying to install the software for this device but it will not run and install automatically. I am using Win 10. It worked great with Win 7. How do I get the installation to start to install?

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I came across an excellent flight simulator (Flight Gear) that makes me want to take the old M/S joystick out of moth balls. Trouble is when I hooked it up, it apparently does not know Windows 7 x64bit from apple butter!
I have a USB adapter that shares a USB2 with a 15 pin game port; so obviously they both function as USB2 ports. The old joystick has a 15 pin plug on it and attaches to this connector, but nothing happens. The machine does not recognize it.
Can this 15 pin game port connection function connected through a USB2 to the Motherboard? Can settings be made to tell the machine that it is there or will the Microsoft sidewinder force feedback joystick just not function in that lash-up?
Trying to load the factory included programs/drivers fails because it will not allow Windows 7 to load them. If this type of connection will not function, is there some kind of a card I could get to make it function? And it that is available how does one go about getting a driver that will function with a W-7 x64bit system.
Lots of questions; LOTS of thanks!

A:Microsoft sidewinder force feedback joystick (Oldie but Goodie)

Check out these MS websites to see if they help.

How to install Microsoft Sidewinder Joystick on a Windows 7 - Microsoft Community

Windows 7 compatibility for Microsoft SideWinder Joystick Game Controller model E13-00002

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Dear sirs,
I have a Microsoft Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, and I am attempting to install it through the adapter of my laptop Toshiba, and along with that I intended to plug the USB chord into the VMWare application where I have Windows Vista where I play old
games on it, I desire to use the Joystick for ease of playing some old CD-ROM games that I have installed on Windows Vista under VMWare for ease, however, I have had the trouble of trying to get the software to recognize the Joystick. It should have recognized
the device that I was installing, but it did not, niether does Windows 8 (the current software that I am using) recognize the joystick when I plug it in through USB. Can you give me the steps on how to successfully get both Windows Vista, and Windows 8 to
recognize the Microsoft Sidewinder Joystick in order to trouble shoot this problem, I would appreciate it very well.
The Part no. X03-57540 , and the Product ID: 85791-579-7678597-00000
Thanks for looking into this.
Robert Gutierrez

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Hey all, simple, does the PlayStation III joysticks work on vista pc ?

A:Ps3 joystick ?

Or Xbox 360. If both works what one do you suggest ?

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hey, i have windows me...last year or so, i used my joystick to play xwing and tie fighter...worked fine...now i wanna reinstall them, but when i installed the disk, and plugged in my joystick, it did not work...windows said my magnum 6buttom was not connected...tho it was, drivers installed, and plug in, with the screws on hte sides fit inside...

in hte joysticks readme, it says:
5.2 If the error message " NO JOYSTICK " appears on your monitor,
ensure that your game port is enabled. You may need to enable it;
call the manufacturer of your game card or PC for assistance.

how do i enable my game port?


microsoft sidewinder joystick will not work with vista fedup downloading drivers and calibrating

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I have a xcm adapter attached to my playstation(,for my x box controller).,and i would like to know if it would work, also with my Avatar joystick ,which works with pc /x box.if I plug this in would it recognise it !

A:joystick for psn 3

Depends on the adapter model you are using I guess. The specs/description/reviews state it works for both: http://www.amazon.com/Cross-Battle-adapter-RUMBLE-Xbox-360/dp/B001O89YTU

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Hi all;
I am not sure if its the right place to post,but I hope so.

I have a Logitech Wingman Extreme 3D with profiler and all drivers.The joystick installs well and it works perfectly from the windows calibration.All keys works from min to max and also the centre is right.I played NFS carbon and it works well with this joystick.But when configuring the Joystick in BF2, it doesnt work.I mean for the front and back movement its detects Joy Axis 2,but also shows the same for right to left and hence shows an error.Any one has any idea why it happens?I also have a logitech Wireless key board and mouse.Could there be interference?Or is it a limitation with BF2?

Plz help and thanks.

A:Help with Joystick in BF2

Hi, I use the same Joystick in BF2 not a problem for me, Why not try resettings the settings in BF2 and trying again, if you have already done so i would say there is a prob with the joystick or BF2, to get around the problem try using the joystick on another pc with BF2 installed (if you can)

My stick works fine when putting in on to work with the chopper mode, be sure to keep every thing else still and move it slow.

Any more probs post back!


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Here goes, I finally found Chuck Yeager Air Combat. Used to play it all the time about 8 years ago on an old 386.
Now with my puter, I have Wn 98, I can get the game to run in msdos, but the joystick can't be selected.
It's a Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox 2 Pro connected via gameport on a Creative 32 AWE.
Any ideas?

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Does anybody know if there is anyway to convert a 15 pin Joystick conector to a USB?


A:Old Joystick ?

Yes there iz. I have it. It is called Eliminator Precision Pro, by Gravis(i think gravis is now kensigton for some reason). This is a really g00d stick. Best 1 i eva head.

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i have a playstation joystick n the usb adapter, i use it to play
san andreas, need for speed,tonyhawk , n some other games, but i got
medal of honor airborne n call of duty 4 n there's no option to
use the control, n play with the keyboard is not fun for me
specially cuz i dnt have a mouse only the touchpad,
could some one plse tell me how can i make my playstation
joystick work in this kind of games, i really would appreciate it

A:how can i use a joystick?

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friend has a new USB 4- button joystick connected to a Sony p200mhz laptop. It recoginizes the joystick, but says it's "not connected". The stick does not have an 'on-off' switch. Many tries for tech help have not fixed it. It works fine on another PC (desktop). Any suggestions? Could situation bew caused by an open 'line/connection' in the laptop's USB port? Any idea would be helpful.


Does your frineds laptop have Win95 on it. Win95's USB support is shaky at best.

Just remember, i could be wrong.

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My husband plays Kuma's Dogfight from the History Channel. He got a joystick for Christmas for the game. I'm having trouble setting it up.

It is a Logitech Attack 3. I need to know what parameters go where on the joy stick. I got the throttle, primary attack & secondary attack set up. I can't seem to set the rudders for L & R.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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For some reason my computer no longer recognises my joystick. K6-2-500/voodoo 3 3000/ creative pci64 soundcard.
Windows ME. Ive tried to reinstall the stick but compy doesnt recognise it informing me that the joystick isnt connected,(Microsoft Sidewinder Pro). I have sidewinder software installed, connection is good but no joy..help please.

A:No Joystick !!!!!!!!

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Hello Guys,

i have a special needs child who has a special joystick (that costs 450.00, talk about milking it,it looks like an old atari tv games joystick with 4 colored buttons) anyway the ps2 connector pins got crunched.

and i cut the wire and tried to join it directly to the wires on the ps2/usb wishbone. but the colors dont match on the joystick and the ps2/usb wishbone.

can i make this device USB...just join it to an old mouse usb connector.

there are 7 wires.

a plain stripped wire (silver)



the jerk at the special needs web site wants to repair it for 150.00 or sell me a new one for ...yes 500.00
this is actually quite sick...

please help me make a child smile again!!!

A:PS2 joystick to USB...

oh by the way, im talking purely from a "wire joining" point of view...not using converters etc...as the wire for the joystick has been cut...

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Hi everyone, not sure if this topic is in the right subforum

Anyway, Im looking to get a joystick for flight sims and games that have aircraft in them, like DCS Blackshark, arma 2, etc..
Ive narrowed it down to 2 joysticks, but cant decide so I wanted to hear your opinion.
They are about the same price, though, one does come with a game.
Which one do you think I should get?
The main problem for me to decide is, Ive heard great stuff about Thrustmasters, but I have many great reliable logitech products, and more people reviewed the logitech one, as opposed to the thrustmasters 10.
Which one is easier to set up?
What is panoramic view?
Which one has a better set up in terms of functionality.
And what the heck is a hat switch?



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when i connect my joystick and go to configure it it keeps on saying its not connected. why? please help.
i own a compaq and the port for the joystick was built in.


What type of joystick is it? Did you install the joystick software?

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I use a wingman joystick. When I am running different games, such as UT2K3, and I am moving in a direction (forward, left, right, backwards) my buttons dont work. Anyone know of a setting or a fix that I can do to get this to work? I am using Windows XP. If I go into control panel and to proeties of the stick, I can see that the lights light up when I have the stick forward and hit a button. So I am thinking it must be int he game itself.


A:Joystick & UT2K3

Hi Jammer,
Welcome to TSG!

First of all I'd say go HERE and update the driver/software for your stick.

Do you have the Wingman Profiler software?

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Hay I need a bit of help please I am running windows 98SE a Athlon 900 Shuttle A-61 mainboard SB Legacy sound card (no game port) My problem is that in most of my games when I boot them up the game device will work for a minute or so then it will stop responding now if you open the control panel and look at the device it says OK but if you go into properties and push a button or move a axis it will not light up or move it does this on all three controllers all of them usb all different make's I have downloaded the patch from Microsoft re installed all drivers including mainboard all but BIOS. so I am stuck. again it only does it on some games morrowind and gta 3 work great but B-17 mighty 8th NASCAR 4 and Hooters Pro Cup all lock up Thank you.

A:joystick hangs

Try going to www.usbman.com click on the drivers/patches link on the left then click on the Windows quick link and download the 2 98SE patches available from there

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If I was to buy one thing to play games with on computer what should I buy? Joystick or a gamepad (wingman type thing)?
Can I fly planes with a gamepad? Can I shoot Germans (medal of honour) with a joystick? I am unsure of the functionality of both these things. These are probably the main types of games I will be playing, flight simulators and shoot em ups, but maybe some strategy type ones as well. Medal of honour is the only game I have played on computer and played it with mouse and keyboard which wasn't that bad at all, but I quite fancy diving out of the clouds in a Spitfire (boys will be boys). So what's the best allround game controller that will allow me to play most games?
Tally ho

A:Game pad or joystick?

Ok, well for 'shoot em up games' most often called First Person Shooters (as you see through the players eyes, ie Medal of Honour), using a gamepad or joystick is not reccommended. The ideal setup is with a mouse and keyboard. Mouse for aiming and keyboard for moving. I think it is possible to use a gamepad, but you will find it very hard, unless your used to playing consoles.
Flight Simulator games are best enjoyed with joysticks. However some can be used with mouse/keyboard, or a gamepad. Check with flight games you wish to play to make sure they are compatible with a gamepad.
Strategy games are generally played with mouse and keyboard combination. Mouse for movement of map, and keyboard for using hotkeys.
Gamepads are generally used in arcade racing games and sports simulations. Although some flight games can use them. Scrolling platform games (although rare these days), work well with a gamepad.
From what you've said, it doesn't look like you will need a gamepad. I suggest buying a nice joystick, make sure it is strong and sturdy and with enough buttons. Make sure you get a good feel for it before you buy it. Some are very shoddily (if thats a word) made and don't stick to your table. However if you stick to the big brands (Microsoft, Thrustmaster...) you can be confident your buying a decent joystick.
I guess my main tip is to research before you buy one.

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I purchased a Star Wars game for PC for my 5 year old and he is having trouble using the keypad to make the moves...should I get a Joystick or a gamepad? Any suggestions on which brand or kind? I appreciate it... Thanks...

A:Joystick or gamepad?? Help please...

if the game is more flight simulated, then I would think Joystick, otherwise use a pad.

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I am reimaging a lab of computers, Windows 95, each computer has a SoundBlaster card (some ISA and some PCI) Some of the machines had no problem recognizing and installing the drivers for the souund card. Others (no pattern I can detect) show only "gamepost joystick" under the sound, video and game controllers in device manager. If I remove the joystick and reboot, only the joystick is redetected. Some of these worked before I formated and reimaged them, but I have had this problem other places too. I have tried installing the audio directly from the CD and everything looks OK but the devices/drivers never show up in device manager. I'm fairly certain a new sound card would solve it but since these worked just a couple of days ago, was wondering if anyone had a remedy for me.
Like the new look of the forum!!
Thanks for any helpful ideas!

A:Gameport joystick only

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I always calibrate my joystick in Devices & Printers - Game controllers.
Recently I have noticed there is only Advance button (which gives nothing) and Properties which shows Test, Deadzones and About. There is no option for calibration.

Doy you have any idea how to calibrate now ?
Thanks for help.

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Just purchased a Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 Joystick.
I had problems installing it, but eventually my PC accepted it. I still don't know why.
Now, whenever I have to reboot the PC, I lose the Joystick. It's not there in the game controller list. (Windows 98 SE)
Until now , I have been able to uninstall the programme and re-install successfully.
Now, it won't accept the installation.
I get as far as being asked to plug in the USB device and then it tells me I have performed an illegal whatsit and the PC can't find the 'stick.
I read somewhere that this 'stick does get into this sort of prblem, but I can't remember any cure.
Any help out there.
Derek McBride

A:Joystick installation

im not very sure, but there might be a updated drive you have to install for that particular joystick. Hopefully someone else can help you out on this.

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I have a mirosoft sidewinder 3d pro and a sound blaster sound card running on win 98.
My rudder just started to go in circles. I recalibrated several times and it won't calibrate the rudders. I have tryed the wingmen joystick it loads up fine,but when try and calibrate it I get the massage no joystick found. I have reinstalled all the the software all it didn't fix the problem, next is to reformat. any Ideas would be well come.


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My friend wants to know if it's possible to use the joystick as a mouse. I told her i dont think it is. Is it?

A:Joystick as a mouse?

sure why not... all a joystick is is a glorified mouse you have to calibrate when you bang on it.... i would just get a mouse too though

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What is a good joystick to get for under $30? I would be using it for Flight Simulator 2000.

A:Recommendation for Joystick

check out the SAITEK range

I have this version http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/cyborg_gold.htm and use it on flight sims

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Just like many of you I am on the computer all day long. I have come to hate the mouse but feel like there isn't a better option. I'm thinking of trying a standard joystick (not a game pad but an actual joystick) as a mouse. I've seen software that allows this to happen so I thought I'd check if any of you fine people have tried it and would or would not recommend it.

This is for a PC running windows2K

I have already tried and don't like the following devices:
- Roller balls, both top and side mounted
- Drawing/Pen pads. These are okay but the clicking buttons are always badly placed.
- The keyboard mounted red rubber TrackPoint thing is the worst computer related invention ever.
- The touch pad that is used on every laptop these days is the second worst.

If you have other suggestions not listed above I'd be open to any!


A:Joystick as mouse?


Providence, I guess..............


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License: Freeware
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Transform your joystick into a mouse. While JoyMouse is running in the background you can move the cursor and click with a joystick as if it was a mouse. Configurable lightweight and free

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I'm using a cut-down version of Windows XP Pro (up to date w/ all hotfixes service packs etc.) and I'm trying to install an old Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick

installing a sidewinder joystick is tricky as windows wants to auto-detect sidewinders, and doesn't recognize it when it is first plugged in.

I have the original CD which includes drivers and other utilities for the joystick, but i can't install those drivers as windows does not recognize the joystick is plugged in, 'add hardware' and 'add game controller' are no help at all.

add game controller' doesn't auto-detect, and there are no game devices at all in the add new hardware list.


I have the drivers i just need windows to notice there is a new joystick connected so i can install them.

A:Installing a Joystick

Look in device manager to see if its reading the joystick as an unknown device. If it is then you can go from there. If its not, and you have a USB gamepad, make sure that USB port is working. If you have a gameport interface gamepad make sure that your gameport is enabled in BIOS.

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Everyones been very helpfull today. I havr one last hardware question. I'm getting ready to hook up my joystick and a question arised. The Wingman Extreme has a 15 pin connector and also comes with a adaptor to convert to USB. My computer is a Dell and it doesn't have a 15 pin game port by it does have two USB ports. I went out and bought a game card ( five bucks ) and then I noticed the adaptor. The question is should I use the USB port or install the game card. I've never had a PC with a USB. For that matter I've never had a PC without a Game controller port either.
Thanks in advance for any help I can get.

A:Joystick in USB port ??

I would just use the usb connection, should work great and save you some work...Rhett

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can someone tell me where i can to find drivers for pc commander plus joystick drivers

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I have and older Sidewinder Force Feedback with a regular game port plug. Will it work with a 15pin/USB adapter?

A:Sidewinder joystick

It probably would...if you already have one, there's no harm in trying.

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I can't install my joystick! When I plug USB connector into one of the USB ports, hardware information database window opens and is not responding at all. When I try to install joystick's software from CD I get error message after 28% of installation, saying "The directory or file can't be created". I have windows ME and the joystick name is THRUSTMASTER Fox 2 Pro. Please help me if you can. Thank

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AMD 1.2 gig
512 meg ram
win 98 se
creative soundblaster
Every time I try to use my LOGITECH WINGMAN EXTREME joystick my comp freezes have to hard shut down ... havetryreloading logitech freezes device manager says i have NO problems humm
can any one get me pointed in the right direction

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So I got an old Saitek Cyborg 3D USB (Looks like this http://amzn.to/QYuduM) and I have a Windows Vista. The highest driver available is for Windows XP so I installed it with compatability mode. Everytime I try to configure it, it resets to the wrong position. It shouldn't be with the hardware because when I go into configuration mode, it works fine. Here's a video of the configging(not a word): http://youtu.be/Xa9_Vwf_938

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My Speedlink "Black Widow" game controller/joystick works perfectly on my laptop with Vista Home Premium but will not work fully on my Dell Dimension Desk top also running Vista Home Premium (SP1). That is everything works except the "vibration" effect. Laptop - yes, desktop - no!
Any suggestions gratefully received.

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Can anyone tell me about installing joysticks? I've gotten a game for my son at a garage sale, and it requires a joystick, which I've also gotten from a garage sale, but I don't know how to install it. I've looked on the back of the computer for the correct port, but nothing matches. Do I need to buy something else? I use Windows 95. The joystick is a Flightstick made by CH Products. Thanks for any help.

A:Joystick Installation

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How can I use my joystick (gamepad) as a mouse in windows xp?

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I am having a big, big nightmare!! No matter what joystick / gamepad I connect to my gameport, when I go into the gaming controllers to try and configure, I always get the 'not connected' dialog.

Now, I know they are connected. I can see them connected. I have tried doing an 'update drivers' with the win98 cd, no joy. I have tried joysticks with their own software, no joy. There is no question mark on HID-compliant device under device manager. I have no hardware or software conflicts, and all it says is 'this device is working properly'.


IRQ is fine, on 9, not changeable. I have an integrated Crystal Sound Fusion sound card, it must be a driver problem of some kind, but god only knows what. BIOS is on automatic system selection, USB enabled..........

Please, please, somebody out there must be able to help me. The latest joystick I've tried (not that I think it makes much difference) is the Genius Flight 2000 f-23.

Fingers crossed

A:Joystick 'not connected'

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