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System Image vs. Recovery Disk (many dumb questions)

Q: System Image vs. Recovery Disk (many dumb questions)

Hi there!

I just bought a new laptop that comes with Windows 8.1. I want to upgrade to Windows 10.

My first question is, do I do a System Image or Recovery Disk -prior- to the upgrade, or after?

My second question is, is it sufficient to just do a Recovery Disk if I haven't installed anything yet? The main thing I can't figure out through my research is if I create a Recovery Disk, will that include my current operating system? Or is the operating system only backed up through a System Image?

I -think- my final question is, if I put all of this onto a flash drive, when I plug my flash drive in, is it going to try to reset my computer every time? Or only if I plug it in before I boot up?

I'm really not savvy to deal with a lot of the terminology I see on the web when I try to research these things on my own, so hopefully someone can answer my questions as if they're talking to a 5 year old

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Preferred Solution: System Image vs. Recovery Disk (many dumb questions)

I recommend downloading and running Reimage. It's a computer repair tool that has been proven to identify and fix many Windows problems with a high level of success.

I've used it in the past to identify and fix everything from blue screens (BSOD's), ActiveX errors, corrupt files and processes, dll/exe/sys errors, recover lost memory, Windows update problems, defragging, malware removal etc.

You can download it direct from this link http://downloadreimage.com/download.php. (This link will automatically start a download of Reimage that you can save to your computer.)


I recently had problems with BSOD. I was able to fix the underlying cause, but this got me nervous. So I am thinking of starting a program of periodically creating system images of my laptop - both the C & D drives - so that I could restore my system in the event of hardware failure. Make sense?
I have some questions to make sure that I understand the underlying System Image & Repair disk process, & also when I would use a Windows 7 ISO image.
(1) Am I correct that when I restore from a system image of both C & D drives, that both drives are **totally** recreated?
(2) Will I still have a legal copy of Windows 7 when I restore using the system image?
(3) Should I make sure that I have a repair disk before I restore from system image? If so, why?
(4) Is it necessary to periodically recreate a repair disk? Or once a repair disk is created, it is good for any future repair that may be needed?
(5) There are sites where one can download a Windows 7 ISO image.   
    (i) Am I correct that restoring from this image just installs Windows 7 and no other programs? 
    (ii) Will I still have a legal copy of Windows 7 when I restore using a Windows 7 ISO image? 
    (iii) When would I restore using a Windows 7 ISO image rather than restoring from a System Image?
    (iv) What is the recommended site to download a Windows 7 ISO image?
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A:Windows 7 - System Image, Repair Disk, & ISO Image Questions

Users have (at least) two ways to go to overcome those unforeseen problems that occur.
a.  Make clones of the hard drive reflecting the O/S.
b.  Use backup software which creates a file which can be restored, item for item.
I have done both at some time...right now, I prefer making a clone of my O/S (dual-boot) partitions...while backing up data files on extra hard drives I have lying around.  User preference determines whether a user backs up...or creates a cloned image.
You might take a look at Macrium Reflect, a program that seems to do each pretty well.
Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download - http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
Those ISO files of Windows 7...are covered by this pronouncement here at BC:  Recommending ISOs of Windows Recovery Discs or pre-made ISOs of WinPE-BartPE - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic382841.html .
In addition to being illegal...those .iso files...or any file NOT obtained from a legal, authorized source...are subject to reflect code, errors, malware...or something else that the user has not bargained for, IMO.  If I were a malware misanthrope...that would be my favorite vector...giving an unknowing public something "for free" that they have no desire to legitimately obtain.

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I am trying to get a handle on how these 2 functions are related. I assume the Recovery disk would be needed if you can't boot to the computer (assume the OS needs to be present) and does the Recovery disk replace the boot files that may be damaged and then after you get booted up I assume the System Image (is that is referred to as a "backup")?? would be ran to get the computer back to the working order when the Image was taken. Assume that the Recovery disk would take place of the OS installation disk if it were not available and you couldn't just reinstall the OS and so you could load the Image.

A:Recovery Disk and System Image

Hello Jackman33,

Here's how it works on Windows 8:

Once you use the Win 7 Recovery Option to create a System Image, you have three ways to restore that image if required:

The first method is to create a Rescue Disk which is done as the last step of the System Image creation process or on demand.
The second method is to create a USB Recovery Drive on demand.
The third method is to use your original installation DVD and select the repair option.

All 3 of the above methods are invoked at boot by selecting the BIOS boot menu from the splash screen and then selecting the proper boot device (eg, DVD or USB). It is also important to note that you select the proper boot option that matches your installation configuration (UEFI or Legacy installation). So, if you want to use, let's say, the installation DVD, you might have two options that look something like this:

Boot from:
CD/DVD (Legacy)

However, I would recommend that you skip all the above and make a quick migration to a free 3rd-party System Imaging software because the steps are slightly changed in Windows 8.1 and, in some rare cases, the rebranded System Imaging function doesn't even work properly.

Latest Win 8.1 ISO "Breaks" System Image Functionality

I personally use Macrium Reflect free and highly recommend it:

Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download

Good luck with your decision on this issue.


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Hi folks,

Lately I have downloaded a fair few movies, TV shows, concerts etc and I have started to become mindful of the dwindling amount of space available on my hard drive. I hope someone can help me with what are probably some pretty dumb questions...

I am wondering what others more expert than me do in this regard to free up disk space... do you burn those clunky video files that are taking up space on your hard disk to DVD-R's, and delete those files from your computer? I have probably got a fair amount of stuff in the 'non-essential' category that would not devastate me to delete from my computer, as long as I first burned to disc.

This is probably an even dumber question: I do regular weekly back-up to a 1 TB external hard drive. Having backed up lots of my clunky video files to an external hard drive, if I then delete those files from my computer, does this also delete the same (backed-up) files from the external hard drive?

Apologies for my ignorance. I am just hoping an expert or experts here might be able to give me some tips for 'best practice' for freeing-up disk space. Thanks in advance for any help offered!

A:Best way to free up disk space? Some dumb questions...

Running out of disk space means that you need to get more. You can put it off, try to recover space on the drive, copy things to DVD, and so on. But eventually, if you want to save things, you need to cough up the bucks.

Movies can be easily stored on DVD's. I usually store them in their original avi or mpg formats since I can get many of them on a DVD. External drives are really a good idea because not only do they give you storage space, but you can make periodic images of your internal drives. Then, when your drive fails, and it will, you don't lose everything, including your operating system. You jst get a new drive and restore everything from the image that you made.

Look on the external. Are your videos still there? that should answer your deletion question.

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There is a large reference book on Win 7 called Windows 7 Inside and Out.

Even in this big book only a couple pages are on repair. I have recently moved to Win 7 from XP.
The repair routine on the XP installer cd got me out of a lot of jams.

But now it seems I need to make a separate repair cd on Win 7 through the System Image Recovery.
Even this assumes that Win7 is going does it not?

How can I build a repair cd that boots and restores the MBR where the usual problem
is after an unexpected power out or shutdown?

My most common instance of having the HD go bad is having an interrupted clone job
using Norton Ghost.

If image recovery is the wrong place to start, please give the how - to to make
a bootable repair cd/dvd.

A:Build a Repair disk with Win7 System Image Recovery

Seasons Greetings
Listen to me. I and many members of this forum, do not get overly involved with repairs etc. Just download the free Macrium Reflect, it allows you to make an image on an external hard drive. No matter what your problem, just repair with a current image. It saved me several times. I do not know about Norton, but using Macrium is the place to start.
If you still want a repair disc, this will help
System Repair Disc - Create

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I have a Dell Inspiron 1520 with Vista Home Premium factory installed and now I need to install Windows 7. Before doing that I want to make sure I can restore my computer exactly to the way it came if anything goes wrong in the process of installing Win 7 or I needed back my original laptop with Vista.

Figured out the best way to create a complete image of my Hard drive.

Capacity is 320GB
4 partitions - System Partition (C), Recovery Partition, some other 2 small partitions.
I have to modify these partitions and sizes when installing Win7. I want to completely image this HDD so I can get these back exactly the way they are now.

What is the best software I can use and what are the best methods? Please give me your opinions and instructions. Thanks.

A:Creating full Image of Hard disk System & recovery partitions (Dell)

(1) Download Macrium Reflect (Free)
(2) Create an image with all 4 partitions selected
(3) Make the linux recovery boot CD
(4) Make sure the linux boot CD works and can locate the image you just made and shows the 4 partitions for selection. Exit.

If the linux boot CD fails to work as will happen on some system configurations you can try in place of the linux CD:
(1) Hirens Boot CD Macrium Reflect is part of the mini XP environment
(2) Macrium pe recovery disk. To make this you will need to download the Macrium Reflect V5 trial and be prepared to do a large MS download of WAIK (~1GB). Macrium guides you through the quite straightforward process.

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One of the chief complains about Windows 7 was how much space an installation required. Microsoft notes that a 32-bit installation needs at least 16GB of storage while the 64-bit variant commands 20GB. While not a massive amount of space...

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A:Windows 10 reclaims wasted disk space through system file compression, elimination of recovery image

I like it! It's astounding how quickly storage space goes by when using an SSD. I upgraded to 120GB after red-lining my old 60GB SSD, and am upgrading to a 240GB SSD since I red-lined my current drive. Every little bit counts.

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I'm trying to use True Image 11 to image the system partition of my laptop. When I get to the place where it asks me to select the partition to image, there are two: the main NTFS system partition and a small recovery partition. Should I select both or just the system partition? I have heard that the recovery partition must be in a certain place on the HD to be usable. If so, and if I needed to restore the image , the recovery partition might not be restored to the same place and would therefore be unusable. Any advice on how to proceed here? Thanks.

A:Using Acronis True Image to image disk with hidden recovery partition

you should image it to the recovery partition, although it may not be a good idea to have it on the same HDD
I myself use an external drive which is probably the safest

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can any of you please explain what a disk image is? i gather it's different from just copying everything from one hd to another, thru windows' "my computer" window.

does a disk image copy everything over exactly as it is on the old hd (for example, do installed programs on the old hd end up as installed in the new location?)?

is a disk image the best way to back up a hd?

is it possible to copy pieces of a hd to a cd-r (i know there's a space limitation on cd's) & copy it back to another hd, or is that not really the same as a disk image.

also -- are there any good freeware/shareware utilities out there for this?

sorry for such a basic, goofy question.


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When I upgraded to Windows 7, I bought a new mobo, graphics card, etc... I installed Windows 7 on a new 128GB SSD drive (C: ), and then pulled my old 1TB drive with Windows XP on it from my old machine and installed it as D:.

When I try to go to "Backup and Restore", and click "Create a system image", Backup and Restore misidentifies my old 1TB drive as a System disk, so I can't create a backup on it, and Windows demands that it be part of the backup, even though it's mostly just documents on this drive (there are some programs installed on this drive - Steam and Microsoft Flight - is having software installed to this drive enough to make Windows think it's a system drive?)

I've already marked the D: drive as "inactive", deleted D:\Windows and all the cruft associated with it (pagefile.sys, etc...). Disk Management shows C: as "Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary Partition", and shows the "System Reserved" partition on the same drive (the D: drive wasn't plugged in when I installed Windows 7.) Disk Management shows D: as "Primary Partition", and that's it.

diskpart "details disk" shows this for D:

DISKPART> detail disk

Disk ID: 9A9E9A9E
Type : ATA
Status : Online
Path : 0
Target : 1
LUN ID : 0
Location Path : PCIROOT(0)#ATA(C00T01L00)
Current Read-only State : No
Read-only : No
Boot Disk : No
Pagefile Disk : No
Hibernation File Disk : No
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A:Backup->Create System Image misidentifies disk as system disk

Based on what you've said it is puzzling. I'd be tempted to take a simple approach - backup my data on the old HDD and run a quick format.

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I've been dual-booting Windows 8 Pro and Windows 7 Ultimate, but a while back my Windows 8 kind of went "South" and wouldn't boot at all (I got an error message that a device was "not attached"). I have a recent system image on an external USB hard drive, but when I boot to "system recovery" using my repair disk it can't seem to find my USB drive at all.

The tutorials here mention installing a SATA driver to access disks that are not recognized, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

Any suggestions?

A:System Image Recovery can't find Image on USB Drive

Hello Philppo,

Double check to make sure that your BIOS or UEFI settings are set to be able to read from USB drives at boot.

Hope this helps,

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I recently restored my system to restore point set prior to a failed upgrade to W10 . The restore was "successful" but then... When I boot up, I get normal login but when I enter my password system tells me it is setting up my desktop??  Then it stalls in never never land. When I  boot in safe mode I get my normal desktop but not much works including networking. Most anything I try yields an explorer  error message that the file or resource cannot be found, etc.  Curiously I can open any PDF file with Acrobat and I can even browse and load  other PDF files on the hard disk from within acrobat. I ran boot log and in fact most of the the drivers other than sysroot... did not load. I tried all of the repair options provided by HP and microsoft without success.  So I decided to restore using a set of disks I dutifully prepared when I recently moved my system.  Unfortunately the restore from disk option cannot find the boot file on disk #1.  When I put the disk in another machine I see a normal set of foders including one named "Boot"??I REALLY want to get my system back to what I had when I exeuted  the restore to restore point!

A:System Restore issues Recovery from recovery disk set disk#1...

Be sure disc 1 is clean and no scratches and try again,

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Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a Dell Windows RT tablet from someone. It had the problem of not starting anymore. I managed to get my hands on a Windows RT 8.0 Recovery USB Image for this type of tablet. I used a Imaging tool to install this image on a USB drive.
I booted with this and I could access the Advanced recovery options. I started the Command Prompt and launched Diskpart. I saw all of the partitions where gone. So I used Diskpart to re-install all of the partitions using the Microsoft standard.
It looks like this:

convert gpt
create partition primary size=450
set id=DE94BBA4-06D1-4D40-A16A-BFD50179D6AC
gpt attributes=0x8000000000000001
format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows RE tools"
assign letter=T
create partition efi size=200
format quick fs=fat32 label="System"
assign letter=S
create partition msr size=128
create partition primary
shrink minimum=4200
gpt attributes=0x0000000000000000
format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows"
assign letter=W
create partition primary
set id=de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac
gpt attributes=0x8000000000000001
format quick fs=ntfs label="Recovery image"
assign letter=R

All went well. After recreating the partitions, I used DISM to deploy the *.wim image on the USB drive to the Windows partition and installed the bootloader afterwards. The tablet was fixed after this :) I installed Windows RT 8.0 and updated to Windows
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can i download windows xp from the recovery disk i need to know asap

A:xp download with recovery disk questions

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i have a problem of windows error recovery as i have been using win7 image provided by MNC .So now i came for onsite suport presently in cameroon . after getting this i tried with system recovery options..there i got 2 options . 1 is recovery tools asking me select operaring system but actually no operating system coming in the list . 2 is restore your computer using a system image that you created earlier. From above options obviously i selected 2nd one ..from that i have 1 is load drivers(that i dont have , company installs software centrally..no disc image) 2 is next ..obviously i chose next ..after selecting i got popup that Re-image your computer why because windows cannot find a system image on this computer ( either retry with dvd or cancel). i have chosen Cancel . Now it is saying that reimage your PC . i have a option that select system image..from there ..i have to chose advanced or refresh (have to put external image device.that i dont have)..i chosen advanced..pls guide me what exactly happend and my company has little support to offer in cameroon... pls post correct solution..

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Hey guys!

For one reason and another I'm considering ordering a Toshiba C660 recovery disk' (Mainly because I would like to sell this laptop and a clean install of Windows 7 is more appealing and secure) but before I go ahead and buy the disk from Toshiba, I presume I will have to enter the windows 7 product key printed on the bottom of my laptop?

The only real problem with this is the key has faded quite badly (Being on the bottom it's seen some use..) and I can't quite make out the last few numbers on the sticker

Is there a way I can get a new key? Or get around entering the key on the new install of windows?

For those interested, a photo of the sticker is below, maybe someone with better eyesight could help?

<Image removed to avoid piracy - ETAF Moderator>

A:Toshiba C660 Recovery Disk - Few Questions

I removed the image, because if anyone can read the key - they can use it and put on the internet for anyone to use

Use this program and you will get the key

you can also use Belarc - System Management For The Internet Age. Software license management, IT asset management, IT security audits and more.
to get the key

Also goto the toshiba site and download all the drivers for the PC and put them on a Disk - that will make it easy to re-install any drivers if needed.

Also you could probably make the recovery DVD your self - if the PC has a recovery partition
You should have a recovery manager to create the media

have a look at
Control Panel
Administrative Tools
Computer Manager
Disk Manager

should see if there is a partition called recovery

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Hi all
When i create a new system image on the same drive as an old one am i right in thinking the old one is overwritten because when i try to restore from an image i only have the option to recover from the lasest saved image.If this is the case why is there an option to delete older system images to save space on your disk.Ithought it would work more like system restore and use date stamps to restore ur system
Any help gratefully recieved thankyou

A:system image a few questions

Whenever I do a system image on an external hard drive I always rename it to include a date/time. Otherwise, if I create a new system image it will overwrite the previous default WindowsSystemImage. If memory serves, on the occasions I forget to rename an earlier image I'll get a prompt that older images might be overwritten, do I want to proceed.

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Ah ... gotta love MS!
Didn't want MS Office on my new Win 7 laptop.
Tried many times to ask MS how to remove the 60day trial programs (ie Office)
but if you've ever tried to communicate with MS you'll understand why I gave up in disgust.

V.happy with Open Office and noticed the high volume of updates for MS Office -
such high volume can only indicate security issues etc and since I don't use Office thought - damn it, I'll uninstall and hopefully stop getting all these notices to update.

So I did.
The ususal way (Control Panel/Programs/Uninstall)
Well, that seemed painless.

Then noticed certain things not working (eg Soluto) .... hmmmm
turned out that unbeknowest to me I'd also uninstalled MS.NET Framework.
(Of course no mention of that where I uninstalled from).

Also ... can you believe all the MS Office Trial Programs are still in my Start/
All Programs list and they all still open. (I really don't care any more)

So ... as I'm on dial-up I can't d/load a new version of .NET but I do have
both an Image and a backup disk .... is it possible to recover .NET from
either of these?

A:Recovery from Image or b/u disk

You can't just pull the .NET out of a Image,there will be no Setup for the Framework..But if you restore the whole image you'll be exactly back to the point you made it and your .NET and all the dail-up setting will be restored.

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I need a recovery image for my hp 700-215xt computer.It is a little expensive to buy recovery disks so I want to download the recovery disk image and burn the disks myself.

A:Hp recovery disk image

Free-hotty, welcome to the forum. If you didn't make the Recovery media when you bought the computer, you can still make it.  Here is a guide to help you.  However, there is no way to simply download the Recovery media from the HP website and burn the CD's yourself.  You will have to buy the disks from HP.  You can also try to buy the disks here. Please click the Thumbs up + button if I have helped you and click Accept as Solution if your problem is solved.

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I experienced a serious problem over the weekend that is forcing me to restore my system using the Win7 (64 bit Home Premium) "System Image Recovery" tool. I'll cut to the chase because I cannot, unfortunately, access any of my system restore points nor is startup repair working.

My computer has 4 different hard drives. On the c: drive, I only keep the Win7 OS and my various programs. All my other files and data are stored in the other 3 HD's (my data only hard drives).

On one of these HD's I have a System Image from about 2 months ago. I would like to restore this image using the Win7 "System Image Recovery" tool. However, there are various other files and data on this HD in addition to the System Image I would like to restore.

If I use the Win7 "System Image Recovery" tool, will it only restore my c: drive (which is what I want) or will it restore all HD's to their original state from 2 months ago?

I plan on unplugging all of the HD's during the restore process except the c: drive and the backup drive containing the image. However, I do not want to lose any newer files on the backup drive containing the System Image.

Will I be able to restore my c: drive using "System Image Recovery" without losing any new files/data on my backup drive containing the recovery image?

A:System Image Recovery - Does it recover just the system volume or all volumes in the system?

It will only restore the drive that the image was taken from.

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hello i have win 8.1 and i'm confused about the differents about these disk i mentioned.
1)can you tell me what are the differents?
if are three different disk:
2)how can create each of them?
3)where is usefull each of them?
4) can i create these disks to usb?
also i have not any installation disk of win 8.1 (my preinstalled os was win 7).i have created a windows image backup.the backup is anything from that?
5) for automatic repair which disk i will create?
sorry for my bad english

A:system repair disk-installation disk-recovery disk

Originally Posted by vasilis

also i have not any installation disk of win 8.1

How to download and create a bootable Windows 8.1 installation media. -> link

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I made a system image with the built in feature of Windows 7 following this tutorial Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup

Today I made another but the first one made was erased and replaced with the new one. According to the tutorial Windows automatically erases older images once they take up more than 30% of the space on the back up location. I only had the one image on there and it was no where near 30% of the space. Why was my older image erased?

A:Creating system image questions.


It seems that it only makes one and deletes the other, always.

In any event this is what you do.

Make a system image, now. Put it on an external hard drive and forget about it.. Every month make a new one and keep it on the Hard Drive in the computer.

As time goes by you may need to use the image, because of a virus or your hard drive went down, either way you cannot or should not use the one on the internal. Wow, you have problems. Wait you made one and put it away.

You can use this for image.

Good Luck

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Hi everyone.

I want to make an upgrade from Windows 7 32-bit to Windows 7 64-bit.

The first question, I have 2 internal hard drives (C and D) and 2 external hard drives, when I do a backup of system image, which hard drives will be included in the backup?

The second question, is it possible to do a backup of system image on Windows 7 32-bit and restore it on Windows 7 64-bit? Will it cause issues?

A:Couple questions about system image

Hi and welcome to TSF are you using windows back up Backup and Restore - Microsoft Windows.
I would say no to the system image as the image would over write the 64 bit, better to just back up your data,music,photos etc and you can choose where you back up to
32-bit and 64-bit Windows: frequently asked questions

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I did my first backup using Windows 7 built-in backup and restore last week. Chose to let windows decide what to backup and also do a system image (basically the default settings). It took quite a long time, almost 4 hours.

Tonight it did its weekly scheduled backup and another sytem image. Since it only copied any new files that part went fast but the system image took a long time, almost 1.5 hours.

When I look at manage space the system image is using 124GB. This seems huge. I thought it should be maybe 20GB or so. Data files being backed up are 71GB. Other files are 4GB for a total of almost 200GB.

This is a relatively new computer so why is the system image so large? Is there a way to verify that it should be that large? Will it always take so long to do the system image?

A:Questions re: backup and system image

The image file also contains you data if it is on the same partition. Also you have done two images backups and this is reporting both of them. Windows sets aside a certain amount of space (I think about 20% of your backup drive) and keeps as many images as it can in this space. So the actual image size is about 60MB which is about the same as mine. You might want to read this tutorial Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup by Brink.

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I had a hard drive crash completely but I thought I was lucky with having had a continuous disk image and back up system in place. As a precaution, I always clone a dirve for such emergencies. I installed my clone from two months ago and everything is perfect, except from the clone date to today is not current, including my outlook PST. I tried to recover the current image from two days ago but Windows keeps saying that there is no disk available for recovery, even though it shows two disks in the list. I have tried several different ways to get the recovery to work but it won't let me. Suggestions??

A:Can't recovery Windows disk image

Welcome to Seven Forums aseaver. Was the original drive larger than the new system drive? IE: you had a 320GB drive, and now you are using a 160GB drive? If so, windows is remembering the partition size of the original disk. The drive you are restoring to must equal or exceed the size of the original drive partition. A Guy

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I got myself a laptop recently and noticed that there is no recovery disk included so I need one in case something happens. I have a few questions and concerns I hope you guys and gals can help me out with.

1. What is the difference between an Image and a Recovery Disk?
2. I'm thinking of buying a recovery disk here: Click HERE I thought Recovery disks have to be made according with the computer so what happens if my computer suddenly doesn't work? Will the disk (shown in the link) help me? I know my documents will be lost, but will I be able to start up and load Windows 7 again?
3. I'm thinking of creating an Image as well. I have this software that will create an image. Can I place it on a USB drive? I believe I can, but it has to be a FAT32 or something like that.
4. What is the best way (easiest and simplest) to create a backup/ recovery file? I prefer having the file on USB instead of a disk.

Thanks for your patience.

A:How to create Image or Recovery Disk?

How to Create a System Image in Windows 7 - How-To Geek

Back up your programs, system settings, and files

I like Acronis True Image for creating a restore image but Windows 7 has a built in utility.

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I'm working on cloning XP onto a new HDD. My current HDD has a partition set aside for recovery. Can I image the recovery partition to my new drive and then reinstall windows from that partition?

A:Disk Image Recovery Partition?

I'd have to say...it depends.Some OEMs have a process called tattooing...whereby a hard drive transfer is not so easily accomplished.Google Links, Hard Drive TattooIf that is not a consideration...using the appropriate software to clone the hard drive...results in an identical copy of the content.Louis

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After HP hard drive failure, HP sent and I installed/activated the replacement hard disk, up to a Factory Install (Win 7, 64-bit).  But my efforts to restore to my System Image backup are blocked.  I managed to reach the Windows System Recovery Options panel, from where I select System Image Recovery, which successfully detects the external System Image that I previously backed up, but when I select Next to continue with the recovery, I am blocked by a message indicating that the System Image Recovery requires reformatting the disk where the Recovery Environment is running -- restart.  But neither restarting, nor HP Recovery, nor Windows Recovery, nor booting from the HP-created Windows Repair disc, nor booting from the HP-provided System Recovery discs allow me to restore from my System Image backup.   In desperation, I then formatted the C: drive, but a reboot simply re-installed the Factory image from drive D: (HP Recovery drive).

A:HP Recovery seems to block my Recovery from System Image

Hi @20pcAdmin, Welcome to the HP Support Forums! It is a great place to find the help you need, from other users, HP experts and other support personnel. I understand that you are having some trouble restoring from the back you made of your data. I am happy to assist with this. Does the hard drive you are restoring to have enough free space to restore the entire back up?Are you restoring to an empty folder? Also review the following, but I am sure you are following it properly. HP PCs - Restoring Files that were Backed Up Using HP Recovery Manager (Windows 7)  If not try to follow the process and see if there is any change. Otherwise you may need to contact phone support. Please use the following http://www.hp.com/contacthp and create a case for your issue and contact HP. If you live outside the US/Canada, please click the link below to get the contact information for your region. http://www8.hp.com/us/en/contact-hp/ww-phone-assist.html Please let me know whether that works for you, and if it does resolve your issue, please mark this post as a solution. Kudos would also be appreciated. 

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Ok, I have read and read and cannot find the answer.

I have a system image that was saved to a maxtor one touch ext HD via USB. This was created using W7 image making system. I am trying to copy the image to my new HDD (internal) 1TB. The problem is when I go to recovery>advanced options>restore from image and reboot, the PC cannot find the image. I can click advanced options and search for a driver and actually see the drive and the image folder/zips but W7 cannot detect it. I have also copied this image to a internall HDD because I thought it may be the USB. I have not changed any BIOS settings as I am using W7 on the 1TB HDD and trying to restore to that from either the Dnetouch or the F:internal HDD. Neither times will it find the image.
1. Do I need to use an alternate program like paragon or clonezilla
2. When the image is saved, it is the name of my pc. Example: Fesktop64-PC. Does it need to be in a folder or the image be a specific name? Ive seen WindowsImageBackup as a possiblity.

What do I need to do? Seems the hangup is that when trying to restore, windows just does not see the image?

I know this has been covered some, but I could not find specific answers

Windows 7 64bit

A:System Image Backup Questions and Cannot be found

If the image was created with Windows 7 imaging then the image must be called WindowsImageBackup and must be a root folder in the backup drive. You need to boot your PC either from a Windows 7 repair disk or the Install disk and select repair my computer. From there you have the option to restore your computer.

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Ok, just got done with a complete recovery of a dell 1501 laptop.
Went through a ton of updates and actually had to restart due to a failure in the update process along the way.
It is now in top shape, with all updates spyware, antivirus addes, crapware removed etc.

NOW i am curious, is there a way to make a bootable recovery disk ( DVD) from the current disk image?

So that when this this goes to heck again they can just pop the disk in a bring it back to where it is now?

I have acronis true image 2009, but haven used it much to know if it is capable of this.

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This is my third attempt to factory inage recovery and every time it gets stuck at disk #2 of the recovery dvd (OEM) and the cyberlink software say error : 0xe0ef000e

A:While Factory image recovery operation was on disk 2 i get e...

This is akshay kolte againPlease note that whenever it gets stuck at disk #2 installation at around when 70% installation is completed; iv observed that my dvd driver suddenly drops its high rpm and vibration sound thats as if the reading lens is again finding a start positions as it does whenever we insert a dvd/cd for first timei hope my disk #2 which barely have any catches on it is not the problem..... i'm thinking og making a duplicate dvd of disk #2 of recivery dvds might workMeanwhile iv satrted that "kill disc" procedure lets see if that works

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Won't restore from recovery partition, need system image.

A:Need recovery disk image for CQ61-41WM

Hi: You are missing a number from the model. Please post the product number for your notebook. The product number can be found on the same sticker as the serial number.

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Hello... my Windows-7 system is dead. Will not boot, and recovery options from previously made recovery disk have been unsuccessful. I do have a recent Windows-created System Image on a USB-Network drive, however all attempts at utilizing such have been unsuccessful. After navigating to the System Image Restore function from either my repair CD, or my OEM Windows CD, then selecting Search for image on the network function, then entering the full network address [\\readyshare\usb_storage\larry\delldesktopbackup\windowsimagebackup\dell_desktop\backup 2012-11-18 170013], then entering my network credentials, the system seems to search the location, but returns me to a blank "select the location of the backup you want to restore" screen.

Related problem... thinking the C-drive was toast, and knowing I have an OEM Windows-7 CD, I bought a new 3-TB drive. Installed the drive, attempted to do a clean-fresh system install on the new drive, and Win-7 tells me it can not install windows because of some hardware incompatibility issue. Since nothing was changed from the previously working Win-7 installation on this system, except the new 3TB hard drive... I'm wondering what the problem could be.

I can either go with the backup system image, or clean install of Win-7 to the new drive to get me back up an running. I would actually prefer to install the backup image to the NEW drive, if possible.

Can anyone offer any thoughts or suggestions???

A:Recovery disk can not see image on network drive

Can you plug the USB Drive in to the PC you trying to repair?

To use the full size of a 3TB HD Drive, you a PC with a uEFI/BIOS firmware.

For more info on uEFI:
Windows and GPT FAQ
Unified Extensible Firmware Interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
UEFI and Windows

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I am wondering if you need to re-install Windows after a hard drive failure before you use a "ghost" image. I used Macrium Reflect to create it.

Do you install Windows on the new drive or just install the "ghost" image of the drive before it failed?

A:System recovery questions

Hi Nate,

I'm not familiar with that program, but usually you can boot from the image DVD to restore the drive image to the drive without having to reinstall anything else first.

Looking at their website, it looks like you will have needed to create this first before you can restore the image with a blank drive.

Hope this helps,

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For the first time in almost 20 years I have decided to create some "System Restore" discs.
One each for Win-XP x32, Win-7 x32 and Win-7 x64.
The number of times my (Win95/98/XP/7) PCs have spat the dummy and I shelled out $$ for somebody else to fix them.
Time for me to get with the program ! Using two of Brinks tutorials ...
How to Create a Windows 7 System Repair Disc
How to Boot to the System Recovery Options in Windows 7

I have two questions ...
1. Are CD-RW discs suitable as system-restore-discs or must they be CD-R only?
. . . .I appreciate "W" discs can be overwritten.
2. Am I right in assuming that OEM PCs cannot use "System Restore Discs" ?

Thank you

A:System Recovery, questions

Quote: Originally Posted by GrayGhost2

I have two questions ...
1. Are CD-RW discs suitable as system-restore-discs or must they be CD-R only?
. . . .I appreciate "W" discs can be overwritten.

Yes they are, although a DVD-R may be better for the size.

Quote: Originally Posted by GrayGhost2

2. Am I right in assuming that OEM PCs cannot use "System Restore Discs" ?

Thank you

No, you may use them on any Windows OS. The disks in question here are "System Recovery" disks which allow you to boot an unbootable system but do not help you save any data.
You might have a look at this for back up info, I use it all the time.

Imaging with free Macrium

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I want to use the "windows system image backup tool" to an external hard drive which is a backup that already contains
other folders from several computers that I need to keep.
Ive never done this B4 so these are baby questions ; )
Will the image creator erase any of that info already stored on the external drive if I backup the system image to that drive?
is the windows image creator a good tool to do this (any problems with it that are known)?

is there some better image backup creator? if so which and why?

any help appreciated

A:Questions about creating a system Image backup - a bit coinfused

While I do not know about Windows 10 backup/restore utilities, I do know Macrium Reflect [free and pay-for]. MR will not delete anything on your ext HD unless you "tell it to do so" via its purging choices. I recommend two ext HDs getting your OS and data partitions backups.

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* Before I begin I will add that I am aware of the excellent tutorials available here and will be using them =) *
I need to migrate to a hard drive that already has windows 7 HP 64bit on it. I do not however want the registry information and all of the drivers and bloat-ware that reside in the destination HDD.
To my understanding I will just need to boot a system image of my old HDD on the destination HDD.

I need some confirmation that my understanding of the process is sufficient to complete the procedure without problems.

So here is how I understand I will do this :
1. Create system repair disc
2. Create system image disc
3. Place system image disc in the disc drive
4. Place destination hard drive in the laptop.
5. Boot to the disc containing the System Image
6. Follow instructions
7. Victory


Am I right?

Would I be able to achieve the same result with only using a repair disc from my old HDD?

Will I need to wipe the destination HDD?

A:System image/repair disc creation and use questions

Hello lolpsy,

I would recommend to save the system image to a separate external or internal hard drive. DVDs are just not reliable enough IMO.

1. Create system repair disc
2. Create system image, and save to separate hard drive
3. Connect drive that contains system image.
4. Place destination hard drive in the laptop.
5. Boot from system repair disc
6. Select to do a system image recovery
7. Follow instructions
8. Victory

Hope this helps,

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I normally use Acronis True Image for backup and recovery. Fine for file and folder recovery, but I want a reliable full system image of the Windows 7 PCs before upgrading to Window 10. I've just discovered that the Acronis bootable recovery system could not read always my backups so I'm trying the Windows Backup and Restore utility.

For some reason I get an I/O error when backing up to a Western Data 3 TB USB 3 external drive. (Interestingly Acronis writes to the disk with no problem, and, after a few false starts, the recovery system has no problem reading it.) Before I research this more, is there any reason the Windows Backup and Restore utility would have trouble creating a system image backup on a 3 TB USB 3 external drive?

The backup seems to be working fine to an old Seagate 2 TB USB 2 external drive. Is there any way to verify the backup once it is created? The Acronis recovery system had trouble reading backup fines on this disk even though Windows (and Acronis TI 2015 running on Windows) had no trouble reading and writing. I want to make sure the Microsoft recovery system does not have the same problem. But I don't want to do an actual recovery just to validate the backup.

And finally, Process Explorer shows no disk I/O even though the backup seems to be progressing (slowly). Is this I/O somehow hidden. My Kaspersky security software does show I/O activity.

A:Create system image utility - some general questions

Ok. I found the cause for the error when trying to create the system image backup on my WD 3 TB drive. Searching for error code 2155348010 I found several hits. Many large external drives - not just WD - now use a sector size of 4096 bytes rather than the 512 bytes expected by the image copy creation utility.

One such explanation is at

WD has a utility to reformat its drives and turn on support to emulate 512 byte sectors, but that lowers performance. And I would have to backup and restore my backup disk because the reformatting obviously clears the drive. Not worth it since I've now created the system image on another drive (temporarily borrowed from another PC).

I've read the Win8 supports the 4096 byte sector size. Hopefully Win10 does, too.

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My laptop is not functioning properly and I want to factory reset my computer but the recovery partition is not working.
Where can I download a recovery disk image or order a recovery media for my laptop? The Yoko assistant keeps redirecting me to an obsolete page.

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Hi guys
I have an Inspiron 3537 i7 with a dead hard disk. I have a new SSD to replace it with but need the recovery image for windows, etc that the laptop came with. The website support is no help as the laptop is out of its service warranty (bought in 2014). Where can I get the image file from? I have the service tag but am not going to post it publicly.
Any ideas?

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Where can I download a disk image or order a recovery media for y laptop?
The https://backupmedia.toshiba.eu/ link is not working anymore.

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Hey Guys,

Looking for your advice and any links if any...cheers in advance

My Situation

In December 2009 I purchased a Toshiba Qosmio X500 - Model No. PQX33A-00X00J

At the time I upgraded my purchase from Toshiba Reseller BD4U, going from the standard 1x 500GB Sata drive + 1x 64GB SSD... to instead having 2x 500GB sata drives. I purchased with 3 year onsite next business day warranty, that is is now expired.

It came loaded with MS Win 7 Premium Home Edition - but no disks provided.
My Needs
I need/want to factory reset my PC - its starting to run slowI need to re-partition from my existing 4x partitions to just having 2
The Issues
Possibly as a result of upgrading the disk drives at time of purchase, I don't believe I have a hidden Recovery partition in order to do a System Recovery from the Hard Disk Drive - see image of my current partitions attached I don't have Win 7 OS installation disks or Toshiba Driver disks as they should have been installed by Toshiba
My Questions
Do You agree that I DONT have a Recovery Partition - when looking at the partition image? I'm confused on this point coz people say its hidden!?Given I have no Toshiba Drivers Disk or Windows 7 OS disks - what should I do? I'm thinking of downloading Win 7 (use my product key from sticker under PC) and making a disk/USB (but need to learn how)Is this where I get ALL necessary Toshiba drivers for my PC from?Does Toshiba provide a link on its site and instructions on where to get Win 7 ... Read more

A:Qosmio X500/00X System Recovery (Factory Reset) From Hard Disk Drive or Separate Disk

Sorry the model is Qosmio X500/00X

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after reading ms + others I have a couple questions

the insert disk can only be a floppy? that can't be right todays pc's only have cd or dvd or possible usb

any way to write the backup .bkf file to a dvd instead of some hd other than the c drive?

the writeup talks about formatting the entire c drive before the new windows install, is it not possible to just just reinstall windows, in the old windows folder, leaving the drive intact, so you still have documents and settings, program files, etc, so that when the asr restores the os image, all the old programs etc are still there ready to run?

A:advanced system recovery questions

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Hi! My English isn't that great. I hope you'll understand.Long story short: Malware/ransonware, tried to wipe out the virus, wasn't sure if I suceeded or not so I decided to do a system recovery.When I get to Acer Recovery Management (I have the discs), it asks to select between two restore types. The first one is "Restore Operating System to Factory Defaults" and the second one is "Completely Restore Computer to Factory Defaults".Knowing that I want to make sure I get rid of the virus, which one should I choose?I'm not going to lie, I already did the first one, but only because the second one (which sounds like it does more things if I read the description right) was saying "Please remove all files from your hard disk before starting. This function will not work if there are any files on the hard disk." and I don't know how to do that.Should I do the second one and if yes, how do I remove all the files like it's asking me to?After I did the first one, my files (pictures, documents, etc) were still on the drive which makes me think that the first option wasn't "enough"...Thanks!

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I intended to ask a question about Ad Aware, but I can not figure out :
How do I insert an attatchment or picture of my adaware question?
I see farther down this page there is a
" Attatch File " how is this used?
Explain the best way Please?

A:One of those Dumb Questions

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I am running Professional Window7 to allow me to use XP mode.....

IF I want to run Office in my XP Mode - Do I need to get another license for Office

Does My McAfee (loaded on my Windows7) provide protection to the XP Mode if it is connected to the internet?

Do I need a separate license for McAfee to protect the XP Mode?

( One of my legacy programs licenses only has a single user capabilities - hence I can not "share" it with windows7... so I must run in XP mode all the time)

A:Really dumb questions

Anything you run virtually counts as a second copy on a separate computer, so yes. My suggestion is to use OpenOffice, which is fully Office-compatible. Also, you do need a separate license for McAfee. XP Mode isn't always running, so just install a free AV like Avira for it.

Also, you know that you can run XP Mode apps without running XP Mode altogether right? Just install them in XP Mode and then they should show up in 7 in the Start menu under Windows Virtual PC -> Windows XP Mode Applications. They'll open up in 7, without the who XP Mode machine having to run, but they'll still be running as if they were running in XP.

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