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Thinkpad Yoga vs X1 Yoga

Q: Thinkpad Yoga vs X1 Yoga

HiI am used to T420, 450 laptops, and looking for Yoga with similar easy type keyboard (good key travel, less actuation force) and easy on eyes screen anti-glare/matte. Looks like they don't make matte displays now. Is the keyboard on X1 yoga and its anti-glare comparable or should I get thinkpad yoga 460 (that is a pound+ heavier). Also how does a anti-glare screen protector compare with display already built with anti-glare. If the X1 yoga anti-glare is not sufficient, should I then add this 3rd party screen? Thanks

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Hello everyone. im new member here. The problem that i have faced from last on year on X1 Yoga (Type 20FQ, 20FR) Laptop Thinkpad is mostly sleeping issues. When i close the laptop with the option of Sleep mode in Windows 10. It will never wake up by pressing Power button & any keyboard button. Please help i have facing too many issues regarding sleep mode.. 

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Hello everyone. im new member here. The problem that i have faced from last on year on X1 Yoga (Type 20FQ, 20FR) Laptop Thinkpad is mostly sleeping issues. When i close the laptop with the option of Sleep mode in Windows 10. It will never wake up by pressing Power button & any keyboard button. Please help i have facing too many issues regarding sleep mode.. 

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Disclosure:  I received these laptops from Lenovo as part of their advocacy program, so huge thanks to the folks over at Lenovo. I don't receive compensation for my review, and as always, all opinions are my own.  
 
The ThinkPad X1 Yoga is first modern ThinkPad that I've ever owned.  I?ve been using Lenovo?s Ideapad lineup for a very long time, and while I?ve used ThinkPads in the past, the X1 Yoga will be my first personal ThinkPad that I own.  So how does it stack up to the Yoga 910?  Let?s find out! I have the i7 UHD model of the Yoga 910 and the i5 FHD model of the ThinkPad X1 Yoga.  I tried out the latest Yoga 920, but I haven?t tried the latest X1 Yoga yet? hopefully, I will! 
 
Hardware & Design
Even though both laptops carry ?yoga? in their name, the hardware behind them is vastly different.  The ThinkPad X1 Yoga has the classic ThinkPad black design, which is made of a carbon-fiber hybrid for the top cover and a magnesium-PPS hybrid for the bottom cover.  The Yoga 910 has a similar design from the Lenovo?s Yoga lineup, with an aluminum build throughout.  
 
 
 
The ThinkPad only comes in two colors: classic black and silver; whereas the Yoga has a whole suite of colors to choose from, such as silver, copper, bronze, and even a few exclusive designs, such as the Vibe designs for the Yoga 920 and the Star Wars themed designs for the Yoga 910. 
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After 6 months of use, the battery wear is 18% in my new ThinkPad X1 Yoga 2nd / X1 Yoga. I tried to reach lenovo service, but it's an endless lop of passwords and registerAny similar experiences o recommendations? 

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I have two staff members with different Yoga models, but with the same pen issue. Say, for instance, OneNote is open. The pen doesn't draw or write, but it can select and still be recognized. When I try using an old stylus from an HP Elitebook, it works TOTALLY fine - even the button on the pen functions properly. This suddenly started after months of the Lenovo pens working fine. I thought maybe it was a driver issue, but it can't be as the HP pen works.... I'm thinking it's the pen itself just getting worn down? It looks okay though but may be just a little loose... Any help / direction would be greatly appreciated!

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Just curious, why is the new Thinkpad X1 Yoga I7, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, FHD about $1,000 more than the similarly equipped commercial Lenovo 910? 
 
Is it the ThinkPad brand name? The eraser nubbin? The 2 combined?
 
Just curious.
 
I've got a friend who needs a new laptop. She likes the touch/fold aspect of my 1st gen Thinkpad X1 Yoga. Do you all think she would be happy with the commercial Yoga 910? 
 
Any real reason to get the new plain FHD ThinkPad X1 Yoga instead of the similarly equipped commercial Yoga available at Best Buy besides spending an extra $1000 for the ThinkPad brand name?
 
I've owned 6 various ThinkPads since 2011 FWIW. I get it, they're cream of the crop. But I kinda got sticker shock when I just priced out a plain FHD (and we need nothing more) X1 Yoga. About  $2,800, wow!
 
Opinions and advice -- no spam please (thank you!) -- welcome.
 
Best to everyone...
 
J
 
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A:Why is the ThinkPad X1 Yoga $1,000 more than a similar Yoga 910?

@Jelks, The biggest difference I see between the X1 Yoga (2nd) and the Yoga 910 is active pen support which seems to be missing from the 910. You could use a capacitive stylus, but expect fingertip resolution, not pinpoint, and no pressure-sensitivity. Fewer USB ports: no HDMI or MicroSD; no Thunderbolt. No TPM module, if you need to store encrypted creditials, e.g., for BitLocker. Not sure about battery life; they claim up to 9 hours of local video for the 910 vs. up to 15 of MobileMark for the X1. Not an apple-to-apple comparison. You're not going to get the (soon to be patched, at least for now) security hole that is Intel's vPro management tech. You may not get Windows 10 Pro, possibly just Home (but you could always give Microsoft the money to upgrade if you need BitLocker or Remote Access). You're not going to get all the "mil-spec" design and testing etc, but if it's a personal machine, you're probably going to avoid abusing it. As you suggest, the "wave" keyboard -- including the trackpoint "eraser nubbin" -- is definitely going to be more expensive on the ThinkPad than the plain Yoga keyboard. I used two generations of ThinkPads (T61p and W520), but about 3 years ago I switched to a Dell XPS 13. A year or so ago, I ordered a X1 Yoga 1st gen for my wife and she likes it very much, so I am pretty familiar with the design and capabilities. TLDR: I think most people would be happy with the 910 vs. X1 unless they want the active pen. Als... Read more

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I bought my ThinkPad X1 Yoga for around $1600 CAD with 2 years on-site warranty. The Yoga C930 is usually around the same price or more expensive, but the yogadays promotion right now made the base model $200 cheaper even with 2 years on-site warranty. Would you guys say that at $200 cheaper, the Yoga C930 is worth it? It has dual fans and a bigger battery, those seem to be the main advantages. 

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I am hhaving difficulty finding an acceptable scaling mix between resolution, system scaling, and edge scaling. At 1080p, 125%, 125%, os navigation is mostly fine, but edge text is way too large. At 1080p, 125%, 100%, edge text is way too small. At all combinations text is inflated (but crisp) in certain elements while fuzzy in others. What scaling combinations work best for you? I am considering returning this to Best Buy and upgrading to a Pro 4 / Book, or even a Mac. The scaling is ruining an otherwise great experience.

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I posted a similar question earlier and people referred me to the Yoga (much appreciated).  However, I was interested in the 2.6 lb carbon version with touch screen capabilities.  Asus has a Spin 7 model that is very good at 2.65lb, but I miss the red mouse toggle in the middle of the keyboard and Asus's track pad was designed too large....causing unintended tapping.  The Yoga, while nice, is heavier than I was looking for.  The 14 inch screen is about 3.3lb? the 12 inch at 3? I thought that some of the earlier Thinkpad Carbons had touch screen and was hoping they would make a return soon.  Thanks,

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Hello, I am looking for a laptop which can be securely attached/locked (so that I can let it during the night in the office). Could you please tell me if the following laptops have a security slot (Kensington or similar) to attach it somewhere?THINKPAD X1 CARBON (5TH GEN)THINKPAD X1 YOGA (2ND GEN) I do not find it described in the specifications, but from the available pictures, it seems that they have some kind of security slot. Thanks!

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The Thinkpad sticker with the red light above the 'i' doesn't turn on unless the screen turns to tablet mode. Is there any way for the light to stay on all the times? The one near the keyboard does work, the issue is with the light on the outside lid. 

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I am looking for a laptop that is compatible with a digitizer pen for drawing on the screen. Does the 10 point touch version of Thinkpad P51  and Thinkpad X1 Yoga come wiht digitizer pens?

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I have recently bought a Thinkpad Yoga 460 with Thinkpad Pen Pro. I leave it in the laptop slot for charging for more than a day and it gives me only a few minutes of usage. As per the user guide, it should be 80% charge in 15 seconds and 100% after 5 minutes. But it runs out of charge very soon. It shows me the low battery level indicator as soon as I use it on the screen. First day of usage (appox 4 days ago) it gave me about 30 - 45 minutes of continuous. But after that not more than 5 minutes. Please let me know if this is an issue with the Pen or Laptop charging port. Is there any way I can troubleshoot it?Please also let me know the average usage time for the pen, if you are continuously using it.










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A:Thinkpad yoga 460 - Thinkpad Pen Pro not charging ...

Hi
Welcome to the forums.
 
I do not have that kind of pen, but I think is the one that has some "bronce contacts" at the top of the pen. I had read some other post about it, just in case check that "contacts" to make sure they are touching with the charger when you put the pen into it's holder. Sometimes the contacts may move.
 
Regards

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Pen: 4X80H34887Thinkpad: 20FY0002US The thinkpad definitely has the wacom drivers and has a built-in stylus that's working. I got the thinkpad pen pro under the impression that they're compatible, but it's not working at all. I have no idea if it's a compatibility issue, the pen, or the battery. Should these two work together?

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I inserted a regular AT&T nano-sim card (for phones) into my new X1 Yoga, but it either says "no service" or "insert SIM"  Are there any APN settings that I need to add in order to get it working with AT&T? It has the stock Sierrra EM7455 LTE-A adapter

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hi, i've bought the thinkpad pro pen, i've found its not working. dunno if the model is incorrect for my machine or i was sent a different model. i'm using thinkpad yoga s1  12, with wacom digitizeri bought the model in the link belowhttp://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/itemdetails/4X80H34887/460/FEAB2D50A4AD48A08D88043396B6F5E8 it is mentioned it will be working on my model already.any feedback is appreciated.

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I intend to buy an X1 Yoga (IPS or OLED) for my business and connect it to my two Dell U2417H monitors. Looking at the Dell user guide, I see that you should be able to use one cable from the laptop and daisy chain the two monitors. The Dell user guide states that the PC/laptop graphics card must support "DP1.2 with MST transport". * Does the 1st gen X1 Yoga have DP1.2 with MST transport?* What about the 2nd gen X1 Yoga? Understand the mini DisplayPort has been deleted on the 2nd gen X1 Yoga and left only a HDMI and Thunderbolt connection. How would I achieve this daisy chain connection? Thanks

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Hi, I just updated my BIOS to 1.30 -GQET50WW and seems I need a BIOS supervisor password to reorder the default boots?

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Hi Lenovo Community, Recently bought Yoga 12 from Amazon. One strange behaviour observed. Mouse and Keypad suddenly stops responding. Still trying to figure out solution. Kindly guide accordingly! Regards Dr Khan

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Hello,is it possible to use the free M.2 WWAN port for a second M.2 SSD 2242 (e.g. a Transcend MTS400 M.2 SSD 256GB SATA III)?Originally installed in my YOGA 460 is a LITEON 256GB SSD SATA3 2.5 inches.

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My sons new yoga turns to a black screen when he flips it from the laptop position into the tablet. It goes black as a tablet. How can I fix this?

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Hi, I have 3 problems with my Yoga 460: 1. (this should be easy):Where do I get a backup image for my system from? I did not find any links on the support page. 2. I tried to download the bios update to version 1.18 from the website. If I click on the windows installer file, there is always the message "file not found". If I try to download the iso file (which is indeed working), I receive an error message about wrong format when trying to mount it to a usb drive. 3. This is the most important issue for me at the moment:As soon as I try to update my system with Lenovo Companion software, I always get the message that I would have to upgrade my Lenovo System Interface Driver. If I hit ok to install this app, I get a download link. I tried installing it several times. After having restarted the system, the same error appears again (with the same download link).  I would really appreciate if anyone of you could help me on these topics! Greetings from Germany, Simon










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A:Thinkpad Yoga 460

Hi
 
Maybe it can help your 3) point by installing "Lenovo Application Interface Driver for Windows 10".
Download it from here:
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds103153
 
Check if after installing it, it will work with Lenovo Companion.
 
Regards

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 Hi, I'd like to know when the WQHD resolution for the thinkpad yoga 460 will be avaible in france or italy? The funny thing is that on the product description in the italian site the WQHD option is mentioned, but on the configurator the option is not listed. thanks in advance,Acero  

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My 2 days old yoga 260 makes a ticking noise in the right hinge always when I open the notebook or move the screen open a little bit. It is irritating and I am concerned about the build quality of the hinge. What to do?










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A:Thinkpad yoga 260

My hinges are quiet  and smooth, but they are tight and sturdy so that the screen is stable in any orientation.  I'm sorry, but without hearing or feeling yourem there is no way for me to say if yours are "normal", but it is common for a tight hinge to make a little noise when it begins a motion.

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I currently have a Thinkpad Yoga 260 which i need to do a factory reset on but cannot find any information on how to do this, can anybody help please ?

A:Thinkpad Yoga 260

If it's Windows 10, just search for 'reset' and follow the instructions, choose remove everthing to wipe the whole PC. See https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/12415/windows-10-recovery-options

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Are the OneLink+ Docking system for ThinkPad P40 Yoga able to charge the computer like it you can with the Dock station for ThinkPad S540? 

A:ThinkPad P40 Yoga

Welcome to the forum
 
Yes, if you plug power into the OneLink+ Dock then it will charge your P40.

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Hello all I was wondering if anyone knew if the pen that comes with the yoga 460 has a set of changeable tips that you can buy separately? I bought mine through best buy but I noticed that the tip of the pen screws off and allows the stylus tip to be removed. I can't seem to find anywhere that sells different tips for that pen tho. Thanks!

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Hi, I ordered for a P40 Yoga couple of days ago, inbuilt storage is 256GB SSD, there is an additional M.2 slot, can I add a 1TB HDD in that slot? Spec says max is 512GB SSD, so I am not sure about this. I hope someone can help. Thanks in advance!

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I received my CTO Yogo 370 last night via UPS, and I could not be more pleased.  I haven't had a Thinkpad in several years and the quality has clearly held up since the pre-2005 sale w/ IBM.  Although the build / ship took just about as long as Lenovo said it would, their order status system / process between China & North Carolina leaves a lot to be desired.   The folks in NC are very pleasant, but clearly have no control over what happens in Hong Kong and are working from some really old data every day. About the machine though, some things are different, some things are the same, but overall I'm very impressed. The keyboard definitely has a different feel, there is less actuation pressure to strike a key but it's not unplesant. The track pad is the usual IBM / Lenovo unit and I'm getting used to using one again after 8 years on a Mac.  I like it better than carrying a mouse around for sure. With mid-grade specs, (Core i5, 8Gig, 128GB Sata 3 SSD) the machine is very quick for general MS Office work and web browsing. I spent a couple of hours setting up Windows 10 and although we use it at work the bit that took the longest to get right was the start menu, the menu kept crashing on me when I resized an icon, and resetting to defaults but after a few tries it's working fine. The whole family is amazed with the Yoga hinge and the lift & lock keyboard. The PC shipped remarkably free of bloatware, just a couple of pr... Read more

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Hello there  I spent several weeks to find my laptops LCD model (screen model ), my laptop model is 20FQ0060US (OLED), if someone could help me with this I'll be very grateful!  p.s. I can't check screen sticker due of I'm in another country now.  Best Regards.  

A:LCD model of ThinkPad Yoga X1

Hi,
 
Did you get a chance to look at parts lookup?  Choose LCD assemblies on the left.
 

 
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-x-series-laptops/thinkpad-...

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I recently acquired a Thinkpad yoga 15 laptop and while playing with the options I realised it completely lacked Bluetooth functionality. I have tried updating the Intel PROSet Bluetooth software, updating the network adapter drivers, disabling the adapter altogether and reenabling it through the BIOS. I don't know if the Bluetooth adapter is supposed to appear as a different adapter in the Device Manager or if only the Intel Dual-Band AC 7265 is supposed to show up (under the Advanced tab, Bluetooth is labeled as Active). No bluetooth option is present in the PC and devices options menu... I even reset to factory settings in case it was an issue with a third party program, but even there, same situation. Am I missing something? Please help me to get this feature working!

A:No Bluetooth on Thinkpad yoga 15...

I had the same problem as well, i fixed mine by going to the intel site and downloading the update software. downloading the driver didnt work for me. as soon as i used the update software the bluetooth driver turned on and i was good to gohttps://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/84178/Intel-Wireless-N-7265

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In this thread, it was mentioned that this laptop can use the 16gb 4X70J32868 RAM by Lenovo.I found it here for $100. Has anyone used this RAM to upgrade their laptops?












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A:Upgrading Thinkpad Yoga 14 RAM?

Just piping up in response here - Used that exact same SODIMM from Mem-Store - took a chance. Worked perfectly fine. Running it for a couple weeks now, no issues. My TP is a Type 20DM with Core i5 5200U proc.

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Does anyone know if Lenovo is going to release the Thinkpad yoga 15 with an active pen or is this a dead dream at this point? My suppliers have no clue and even the touch only thinkpad yoga's are hard to get here in Canada.

A:Thinkpad Yoga 15 with active pen

I ordered my Yoga 15 with intel realsense camera from Amazon US, and got it shipped to me in Nigeria, you can do same.With respect to the availability of the active pens with yoga 15, only Lenovo can help with that answer.

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I have a slightly strange problem with my Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga.The surface of my laptop is peeling, can I open a request for assistance to replace the chassis in warranty? Regards, Alessandro

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Thinkpad X1 Yoga 2nd Generation, When does it come out?Instead of just saying "Comming soon..", could you give any estimated date or current target release date?I know it cannot be guarenteed, nor promised.  I like to order 3 for our team. But, we need to know approx. date to plan. I saw one article about the laptop comming posted Jan-2017. It's already "May". I wonder I wait for this perfect laptop for us or looking for another option. Thank you, 

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I just bought myself a thinkpad s3 yoga 14. It did not come with a pen but I would like to know is there any pen that support it. I need to do detailed drawings, this was the main reason I bought it

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I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga S1 that won't charge.  Sometimes when I plug it in there is no reaction from the computer aside from the "i" indicator continuouly flashing in sequences of 3s. Other times when I plug it in it says "plugged in, not chrging" and the "i" indicator flashes 3 times, then 6 times. If I remove the battery, I can run the laptop off of AC perfectly fine but the CPU is limited to 0.78 GHZ and the laptop feels very slow because of it. I have two batteries and I have tried this with both of them but its the same result for both. So it's not a problem with the battery. I have also tried the AC adapter on another laptop and it charges fine so its not a problem ith the charger. There was a big windows update a day or two before the issue started so I'm wondering if its just a software problem. My warranty is expired so I'm really hoping this is an issue that I can fix on my own without having to send it in to Lenovo and be billed for it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Hello all, I have a 2015 yoga thinkpad 12 with 500GB HDD and the 16GB SSD m.2.I just reinstalled Windows 10 version 1809 onto the Hard Drive.  Can someone tell me what I need to place on the 16 GB SSD?   What is the function of the 16GB SSD? Presently it's empty.Any insight would be appreciated. Thank you.

A:lenovo thinkpad yoga 12

Hello and welcome,
 
That SSD is used as a cache for the main drive.  You need to install express cache software.  Don't know if running the cleanup utility is required, but linked below.
 
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/THINKPAD-YOGA-SERIES-LAPTOPS/THINKP...
 
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/THINKPAD-YOGA-SERIES-LAPTOPS/THINKP...
 
Z.

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Hello, I finally got my new Thinkpad Yoga S1, but there seem to be some issues with the NFC module. After startup, if I open the device manager it looks fine, but after a few minutes the "NFC proximity device" driver status changes to shows "Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)". Under Details > Problem Code it says "0000002B", and under Details > Problem Status "The Request is not supported/C00000BB". In the System Event Log I am also getting a few "BcmNfcIc driver has failed initializing NFC device." errors at the time it fails. If I do a right-click > Disable and then right-click > Enable on the device, it works again for a few minutes, but then shows the same error again. I'm using Windows 8.1, fully updated with Windows update, and all drivers/BIOS updated using the Lenovo tool. The NFC driver is version 1.1.0.3130 from 17/12/2013. I also had an issue where the Lenovo QuickControl together with "Windows Driver Foundation - User-Mode Driver" background process took up 95% of the CPU time all the time, which I solved by deinstalling QuickControl. I'm thinking the two issues might be related, with the QuickControl trying to unsuccesfully poll the NFC device. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Jan 













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A:Thinkpad Yoga NFC issues

I found out that Windows 8.1 Update 1 has just been released. This seems to have fixed the problem. After the update I had an error about the Lenovo PM Device, saying that it had corrup registry information. Deleting and re-detecting the PM device fixed the problem, and now everything appears to be working.  

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Has anyone successfully added an LTE card to this model?  Apparently it comes as an option outside of the U.S.  It has the SIM and LTE slots but no included antennas.

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is it possible to power this product from a cigarette lighter?  I can't find any adapter products to do it?

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My ThinkPad Yoga 11e 3rd Gen stopped playing sound from the built in speakers and through the headphones jack. I can still play audio through my bluetooth headphones.The audio icon is visible and not muted and the speakers are the default playback device.I unstalled the audio driver and re-installed it from a freshly downloaded audio driver, but that didn't work either. Restarting the machine didn't help too.Any help would be appreciated.

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