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Q: Harddisk Defragmentation.

I am not sure if this is the correct forum to post this question. If it is not, I apologise in advance. Just as a matter of interest, is it possible to over defragment one's hard drive? Can it maybe corrupt files? I defragment almost everyday, sometimes even twice or more times a day. Thanks.

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A: Harddisk Defragmentation.

If you are talking about Windows XP it should tell you there is no point in defragmenting below a certain limit. If it does that don't bother to defrag - you're just wearing out your hard drive for no purpose.
Assuming everything is working perfectly no harm should come from defragmenting when its not needed but in the real world it does increase the chances of corrupting data through either disc error or power glitches. It's a matter of balancing the risks and the benefits.

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I have 40GB harddisk and now I am moving to 120GB SATA hardisk. But i want all the data with softwares, plugins and all the windows settings to be transferred in the 120 GB harddisk.

There is any way so that all files and setttings will transferred and I dont have to install everything again.

In my system Windows XP Pro SP1 is installed.

A:Transfer data/settings from small harddisk to big harddisk

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Hello all,

I need some advice.

I recently replaced my old harddisk to a new harddisk. The old harddisk has windows xp home and other programs installed.

I did not format the old harddisk, I only took out the old harddisk and replaced it with a new harddisk. I then installed windows xp home to the new harddisk.

While I am installing programs on the new harddisk, I discovered that one of the programs do not allow me to activate the program license because I have previously activated the program on my old windows. I need to do a proper uninstallation to release the license, then I can activate the license of the program in the new harddisk.

My question is, can I take out my current new harddisk, replace it with the old harddisk, boot up as normal into the old harddisk windows, uninstall the program inside the old harddisk, then replace the old hardisk with my new harddisk again.

Will I be able to access the old windows on the old harddisk?
Will it mess up my current windows/programs settings?
Will my current new harddisk windows be able to work as normal after accessing the old harddisk windows?
I thought of accessing the old harddisk as a slave, but I do not know if it is possible to access the old harddisk and do a proper uninstall of the program?
Is there any better way of uninstalling the program on my old harddisk?

Thanks in advance.

A:Accessing Win XP on old harddisk to uninstall programs after installing new harddisk

you have to swap out the drive completely. at no time should you have both hdd plugged in.

repeat, do not run them as master and slave. run each hdd individually at each time only.........

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I have a 500GB harddisk connected to my television thru my satellite tuner.
Due to recording and deleting files, this disk should be defragmentated but this disk has a FAT32 filesystem. This cannot be changed due to the specifications of my satellite tuner
My computer has a FAT64 system.
I have read in your comments somewhere that one might use the older version of Diskkeeper.
Will this program solve my problem as well?
Thanks a lot for your reply!

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Hi, could someone please answer my question.

My laptop is acting sluggish so i run the defragmenting tool in computer management, But it keeps giving me a list of files that just will not defragment. does anyone know how i can defagg these files without having to format my HD?


Sometimes, there are files that cannot defragment. System Restore cannot be defragmented, nor can the Page File. Those are shown as green bars. But there shouldn't be a lot of files that cannot be defragged. I have one that won't, for some odd reason, but it's safe to ignore it. If it's only a few files, I wouldn't worry about it.

If it's a lot of files, look for something they have in common. Are they files that might be corrupted? Do you have sufficient room on the hard drive? You should have at least 15% free. If so, make sure you run Chkdsk.

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I used the Defrag Shield of Diskeeper 10 Pro Premier to pad (increase) the MFT to 200 MB on a clean drive (D:) just after formatting.
The Diskeeper reports 0 MFT fragments for that drive, but when I run the CMD "defrag d: -f -v" command, it shows 2 fragments!!!
Which one is true? Does anybody know the explanation?

Thanks in advance,

A:MFT Defragmentation

You are probably seeing results for the paging file having fragments that Diskkeeper cannot move. I wouldn't worry about it.

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My computer is going super slow and often cuts off and runs hot at times. The CPU usage is also goes up to 100% ofen before this happens. Seems like all of this is triggered by me running programs like games or trying to play CD's and stuff like that.

Could the fact that I have never defraged my computer since I had it be contributing to the sliggishness and random cutting off or do you think it could be a virus??? Please help me if possible, thanks.



Hello Jeff,
Yes, needing to defrag can cause sluggishness, as can overheating.Shutting down when gaming points at your graphics card overheating. I don't know much about preventing that, except for don't keep your computer in a cabinet
If you post some specs, I am sure someone here can help you.

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hey guys,

since Build 14295 my SSD's defrag starts automatically .

The new Build , right now 14328 changes the settings and i have to reset this manually, to prevent this to happen.

Am I the only one here?

Jut to let you know


A:Defragmentation of SSD's

Hello Jeff,

Windows 10 would TRIM a SSD by default instead of defrag.

Optimize and Defrag Drives in Windows 10

It may be the optimization schedule set to automatically run doing this.

Optimize Drives Schedule Settings - Change in Windows 10

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Tell me please, can defragmentation of HD affect any of my registered programs?
I’m not sure but long time ago when I tried it, several programs said that they couldn’t find sth…
So is defragmentation completely safe or there are chances of mistakes to occur after it?



Never had a problem like that with defrag. But there are always chances of errors. More than likely that scandisk found errors and corrected them which may have resulted in lost data depending on the error.

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I've went through several websites that say you shouldn't defrag your SSD because it's unnecessary, so my question is, why is it unnecessary to defrag an SSD?

A:SSD Defragmentation

Because the solid state drive's onboard controller needs to keep the data in a fragmented state for the purposes of "wear leveling" (it evenly spreads the fragments out in the cells). So if you run a defragger, the onboard controller is still going to do what it's programmed to do and it will "lie" to the operating system that it actually completed the defragmentation. So, it's a waste of time and a waste of writes because when running a defragger on a solid state drive, the controller will indeed move the fragments around but it is still going to keep them organized in the way that it wants to while completely ignoring the software's actual instructions. In the end, the files will still be "fragmented", but this is only a bad thing for hard drives, not solid state drives.

So other than wasting time and writes, running a defragger on a solid state drive doesn't do anything. The only kind of drive that benefits from defragging is a hard drive due to the way it's physically designed: it's on a circular rotating disc, and so it's best to keep the fragments as organized as possible and as close to the faster part of the disc as possible. For a solid state drive, it's just a bunch of flash memory chips on a circuit board (sometimes DRAM chips), so there's no need or benefit to keeping all of the fragments organized together in one place.

So when hard drives become obsolete, defragging software will also become obsolete.

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Ok i have windows xp and i have been trying to defrag and this is the message error i get:

disk defrag has detected that chkdsk is scheduled to run volume:© please run chkdsk/f.

what the heek does that mean? what do i do next?


Hi ... It means your computer want to check with a scan on your f drive for bad sector / errors , At which time it will try to correct , So if I was you ? Scan your f drive with the errors checking option , Then afterwards try the defrag ... To do a error scan ? Do the following >>> double click My Computer >> Right click the F drive and select properties , Click on the Tools tab follow by check now

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pls help, I have not defrag my w98se with microsoft 2000 for about 6 weeks now... every time I restart and press Ctrl key or f8 it still wont go to safe mode... why?
also one time I made it to safe mode and tried it after 10% of defragging it just stay that way... help is needed very badly.. thank you very much...

A:defragmentation/// help

Have you deleted your temporary internet folder and history folder?

Try defragging in normal mode. You can do it that way. Just ctrl-alt-delete and shut down some things first.

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I, personally, am a firm believer in defragmenting. However, lately, I have seen statistics that show that defragmenting a drive offers virtually no increase in performance. I, personally, find that hard to believe. Being a true XP advocate, maybe I'm just a little prejudiced. Does anyone have any hard proof to prove/disprove the rumors?


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is it worth spending $29 on a disk defragmenter ?


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Hello. It is time for me to defragment my hard drive. I have a couple of questions regarding this. First, I have heard I need to run Disk Defragmenter in Safe Mode. Is this correct, or should I run it in normal Windows?

I would also appreciate any additional information or cautions I might need to know. My computer specs are to the left of this post.

Thanks for your time.


If your OS is XP i dont see why you need to run it in safe mode.

Defragmentation is nothing really "big, bad or complicated" - but a very simple and reliable process done by the defrag tool that comes with XP. Never had any trouble with it - and dont know anyone who did.
Just start it and let it do its thing.

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Hi all

I am having a problem defragging my computer. Thing is, i can't. It starts, but never finishes. It's been at it for eight hours now, and it usually takes about two. I defrag my computer once a week, and nothing has significantly changed recently. I deleted a lot of old files, about 20gb, is that might be the cause?

Virus Scan shows nothing wrong...

Malwarebytes shows nothing wrong...

I have done disk clean-ups and i really don't know what to do. I read something about a command line defrag.exe, but im not familiar with this.

Any idea's? Thanks!


What program are you attempting to defrag with and are you attempting to defrag 1 HDD, 2HDD or just folders?

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Hi All:

By now the savvy readers of this forum all know that defragmenting a Solid State Drive (SSD) is not only futile but can actually shorten the life of the drive through excessive writes.

Now there's another reason that it doesn't make sense.

"Solid state drives use a technology called wear leveling to extend the lifetime of the device. Storage sectors on Flash drives have limited write-cycles which means that they cannot be written to anymore eventually. Wear leveling is used to avoid heavy use of specific sectors. With Solid State Drives it’s not possible to save data to a specific sector of the drive. The wear leveling mechanism makes sure that the data is evenly distributed on the drive."
Quote Source: Solid State Drives And Encryption, A No-Go?

The article is actually talking about Encryption but the last line of the above paragraph jumped out at me.

Defragmenters work by positioning files on the hard drives to make them contiguous thereby speeding up access times and reducing head thrashing. This requires them to have direct access to the drives.

SSD's, however, are written to by the wear-leveling mechanism; this suggests to me that defragmention programs no longer have their normal direct access.

So, even though the pretty graphic display shows all your files nicely lining up, the true state of the drive is hidden from view (and direct access) by the wear-leveling mechanism. Bottom line? A total waste of time.

Any thoughts?

A:SSD's and Defragmentation


I know of 2 Defragmenters that are OK to use.
PerfectDisk (using Consolodate)
Diskeeper (Using the HyperFast plugin sold seperatly)

I can not comment on Diskeeper, but I do use Perfect Disk.

I consolodate my main SSD about once a Month. It does seem to help some, in the sense by consolodating the free space, the writes stay up to par.

As far as performance, well, my Intel drive (main one) runs just as well as day one.

My old Vertex Drive on the other hand, starts wearing down and need some maintenance from time to time. (Mind you, this is a regualr Vertex, NOT the Vertex2)
Not sure what the deal is there. So I run it on occasion on the Intel, and the the Vertex alone. Its just used for a couple Games anyway.

Now whether or nor this provides any real benefit, I cant be sure.
It does feel as though it keeps my drive perming as it should.

I do not think Consolodate actually defragments anything does it? It simply moves everything closer together eliminating free space.

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In Xp we did a lot of defrag for our computers but now in Vista we use Uniblue because we dont have full control by sight in Vista Defrag.
I know that the files are now side by side not on top anymore ,but I want to know if
Uniblue defrag is enough defragmentation. The Powersuite is doing something like that but should I do Vista defrag also often .Its taking up long time doing that, even though I just have driven the Uniblue Powersuite.



Not sure what you mean by

"even though I just have driven the Uniblue Powersuite"

but Uniblue is a good back ground tool to keep the system in order.

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System: WIndows 7 Home Premium, 64 bit, SP1
Laptop: ASUS K52F
Is there a general rule of thumb for when it is advisable to defrag the HDD? My HDD is divided into C & D.  C's fragmentation is 1% - no need to defrag. D's fragmentation is 6% - is it worth defragging?
Another question:  Should one be cautious about defragging because defragmentation can cause HDD problems?  Or not to be concerned?
Thank you.

A:Defragmentation recommendation

Defragmentation is a basic partition/drive maintenance task.  To ask if it harms the hard drive...is a non sequitur, IMO.
My general rule for defragging...whenever I feel like it might improve system response.  I do so after running the chkdsk /r command first and I run the chkdsk /r command much more frequently than I actually decide to defrag a given partition, even though I thought it important enough earlier to throw some money in the path of Raxco, developers of Perfect Disk .  If the system seems sluggish or out of sorts...I will run the two commands I have mentioned...possibly follow that up with running the sfc /scannow command.  I don't really have a method...I don't have many problems with my systems.
SSDs are not be defragmented, at all..

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I am uncertain what defragmenting my hard dirve will actually do (what dangers esixt, what the purpose is, etc...), but it has been highly recommended for use of a music production software that I have purchased. I would like to know if this is something that I should go through with? Additionally, I am trying to clean up some space on my hard drive but I do not know what to keep versus what to delete. Starting with temporary internet files...should I delete this folder and what will deleting this folder actually do?


A:Defragmentation and cleanup...

Defrag is highly recommended, does not matter in which you field you are in. Accessing files from your pc for usage, or saving information, or deleting information, during all these activities - data is stored randomly (on random location within your hard drive) on your hard drive. Defragging hard drive would mean to re-allign this data causing for faster access to these files.

Safest way to clean up your Temp Internet folder would be to go to :

Start -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Administrative Tools and select Disc Cleanup.
After it has finished what is supposed to be doing, you will see a list of all things that are sitting in your pc which can be deleted to make room on your hard drive.

good luck

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Yeah, I am running XP. When defragmentation is complete, I get a message saying that not all files could be defragmented. I disconnect from the net and close what I can, like Norton AV and whatever other program that is in the taskbar sys tray. Is there so'em that can be done to enable defragmentation of all files? Thanx for any suggestions

A:Defragmentation probs

have u turned off your screens saver?

i always hit ctrl alt delete to check and see what is still running so i know what to turn off that di dont need

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I have two partitions on my PC with general/entertainment applications on one partition and my audio programs on the other. Each partition has its own Windows XP installation. So should defragmentation be best handled within the logged partition or is it OK to defragment across partitions: is it better to only defragment the partition I'm working on at the moment and wait till I log onto the other one to defragment IT? I get the feeling that this is how it should be done but I'd like to make sure.

I'm a little conufsed as to whether "Smart Defragmentation" works by recognizing what files are accessed most by the info from the file itself, or the info provided by the registry; or something particular to the partition, in which case cross partition defragmentation would not be advisable. CHEERS!!!

A:Defragmentation Question

I have never had problems when defragmenting a dual boot partition from another.

Not sure about how the "smart defrag" recognizes more frequently used files, perhaps it is part of the indexing service.

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I only have the standard widows defragmentation software on my PC and it seems to be having trouble with my rather fragmented disc. It takes a huge time to run and frankly for not much improvement saying that there a lot of unfragmenatable file on the disc.

Can anyone advise as to a good and reliable utility to help on this? If it's free then great but am willing to pay if buying is better.



A:disc defragmentation

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Hi tech support forums. Recently I downloaded a defragmenter called auglosics disk defrag. I dowloaded a defragmenter because when I would try to defrag my drives with the standard windows defragmenter in control panel, It would only display two drives (PQSERVICE and SYSTEM RESERVED). There is no harddrive to defrag or any option to integrate them into that list. Anyway. I used auglosics defrager last night. Got good reviews considering I downloaded it from CNET and there were some critic reviews. So I used it. It defragmented my acer(C:) drive, did it completely normal. Took at least an hour and a half, maybe 2 and a half. And then i just let it run until it finished, which it then shut off because i put on automatic shut off after completion. When I turned on my laptop in the morning, I attempted to log in to my profile(wich I have two me and my sisters) Some error came up and I don't remember it. I do remember something like windows could not call action or something like that. Then after i closed the error, i logged in, it took extra time than normal, my screen had just the windows seven panel in the bottom right with the time, connection ,etc and then everything else was windows 98, like the start menu and files. I am not sure if this is something that is harming my computer or maybe my drives got worned out because that was on of my first defragmentations. But after I restarted the computer It worked, so.

A:Defragmentation problem.

Auto shutoff? there is not a such thing in Windows do you mean Sleep or Hibernate?

The only way you can Autoshut down Windows is by scheduling it via the task scheduler.

If you mean sleep or Hibernate then when your computer was defraging and the system went to sleep or hibernation during this you might have errors.

Go to Start type in CMD right click on CMD in the start menu right click on it and select "Run as Administrator"

At the commend prompt type in...

CHKDSK /r then type in "Y" for yes.

This will schedule a disk scan at the next reboot.


Report back if this has helped.

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Hello there,

non of my programmes installed in the computer does not recognize IE. I will not let me copy from Word into my e-mail. I says I need Explorer 3 or above. I think I have got eve higher Explorer, do not know what number it is as i do not know where to find that information. Please help, even other programs do not respon to IE.




To determine what version of IE you are using, open it and click on HELP, then ABOUT; you will find it there. Report back to us which version you find.

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I'm not sure if a defrag program like this has been created. all of the programs that I've seen so far have been rather poor, in respect to this idea.
if a disk has fragmented data, it logically has fragmented free space as well.
an idea I have is a program that takes the first segment of the hard drive that is equal to the amount of free space on the drive, and moves all files out of it, into the fragmented free spaces on the hard drive, disregarding fragmentation status of whatever file it's moving. (but preferably keeping the parts of a file in order)
once it has the area clear, it begins moving files into the cleared area, starting with the smallest, and/or most frequently used (measured by date created, date modified, and date last accessed, if available), once this space has been filled, it clears the next space, using the same algorithm as before. if a file is larger than the available free space, it moves as much file into the free space before clearing the next segment and continuing with the file.
it seems like a simple algorithm to me, but I have no programming experience. I don't know how simple it would be, but ideally it would perform 100% defragmentation (with the exception of unmovable files) and it would work with as little as 1 hard disk sector free

A:Defragmentation idea

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I have noticed recently that after defragmentation of my C Drive the Analysis Report still advises me that I should defragment this drive. The Volume Fragmentation shows around 11%, the File Fragmentation around 23% and the Free Space fragmentation 0%.

Defragmentation on other partitions on this HDD and my second HDD always appear to have defragged OK.

Can anyone throw any light on this matter and suggest why this C Drive Partition does not appear to be able to be defragmented satisfactorily?

A:Disk defragmentation

I'm assuming you are using the windows xp defrag program... It's kinda dumb like that. You could just ignore it, I wouldn't be concerned. But if you want a really good defragmentation program, check out diskeeper by executive software. It has lots of options including realtime fragmentation monitor. http://www.diskeeper.com/defrag.asp oh ya, the c: probably isn't defragging well because of the system files.

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My PC was going extremely slow so my friend told me to use Disc Defragmentation and voila! My PC is like new, it works at least 5X faster than before and no longer freezes. What exactly does disc defragmentation do? I was wondering if I should also try "Disc Cleanup" option. Would that make the PC run even faster or should I not use it? He also told me to switch off the Auto Updates as that could be slowing my PC too.

A:Disc Defragmentation

Hiya Speedbird1.

Leave Auto Updates active as they can help eliminate any system holes that MS find.

With regards to Disc Defragmentation (D-frag), it does exactly what it says. As you use the computer and install, delete and move things about, the data is stored on the hard drive (HDD) in bits and pieces (fragments) and not necessarily all in the same place. When you run a program or open a file, it searches the HDD for all the bits to make up that particular option and then runs it but the fragments might be at different areas of the drive therefore taking a while to load fully.

D-frag`ing the HDD sorts all the fragments out and puts them in the smallest area possible which is why you see the blue area (data) being pushed up to one end of the drive in the graphical picture. The perfect D-frag would be to see a solid lump of blue on the left with maybe a splash of green (the page file) at the end.

My mind sees it as a warehouse containing boxes that are half full and to make a complete item, you have to look through all the boxes to find all the bits. If you give it time, D-frag`ing does that for you so all the boxes are in one corner and are all full. If you D-frag regulaly, the time it takes gets less as it doesn`t have so much to do each time.

By all means use the Disc Cleanup option as that`ll get rid of a lot of unwanted rubbish if you make sure all the boxes are ticked but if you haven`t used it for a while (or ever), it could take some time so be patient but c... Read more

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I just found out that the defragmentation for SSDs works quite differently in Windows 8 - interesting.

In Windows 8, when the Storage Optimizer (the new defrag tool) detects that the volume is mounted on an SSD - it sends a complete set of trim hints for the entire volume again - this is done at idle time and helps to allow for SSDs that were unable to cleanup earlier - a chance to react to these hints and cleanup and optimizer for the best performance. We do not do a traditional defrag (moving files to optimizer there location for space and performance) on SSDs.


A:SSD defragmentation in Windows 8

You never as never defragment a SSD drive, trim is there for that, the defragmentation will short the cells life .

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my system is very slow so . i checked for spyware malware and viruses but every thing is clean . then i used clean up disk space option to free unwanted space occupied finally i tried disk defragmentation
it says "Disk defragmentation cannot start because the task scheduler is not running " when i click on task schedular it says "Remote Computer Not Found" then i tried to start TASK SCHEDULER From SERVICES but Stat option BOX is disable please kindly somebody help me . My SYSTEM IS DAMM SLOW .i use win 7 os , inspiron 580s . please some body help me to speed up my computer .

A:defragmentation error

Have you tried Microsoft Fixit?
Microsoft Fix it Solution Center: troubleshooting software issues

also try sfc /scannow to correct the system files(you need the Windows 7 installation dvd).
SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker

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Just wondering if cancelling defragmentation can cause problems. I am using the windows defragging tool now

Partition is 29% fragmented, 2nd partition of hard disk with total volume of 500GB, size of partition is 250GB
1) 24 hours - 28%
2) 34 hours - 30% just 2%

Would there be a faster(and safe) tool to do this if cancelling is safe enough?

A:Cancelling defragmentation?

Hello TheFile,

Sure, you can safely cancel defragmentation if you like. Just don't do a hard restart or shutdown of the computer to stop it though.

The free version of Defraggler and Auslogics Disk Defrag are nice choices.

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I have always avoided stopping or shuting down my computer while defragging. Win 7 is the first time I have allowed defragging to be scheduled. I wonder if I would be prevented from shutting down the machine while a scheduled defrag was running?

Would it do harm?

I would really like to have the warm fuzzies about a scheduled defragmentation.

Thank you.

A:Stopping Defragmentation

Hello Jsquareg,

If the scheduled defrag was running when you try to shutdown, it will cause shutdown to take a bit longer to complete, but it will cancel the defrag and continue to shutdown the computer without any harm being done.

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I recently bought a new hard drive and have noticed that it refuses to defrag. Its 500gb partitioned as follows:

80gb total
20.3gb used
59.7gb free (75%)

31% fragmentation

385.9gb total
42.8gb used
342.9gb free (89%)

74% fragmentation

When running a defrag with Defraggler and the Windows defragmenter, they both fail to reduce the number of fragments. Following some advice, I have run a chkdsk on both partitions and run the "sfc /scannow" command, they have fixed some errors but haven't fixed the defrag problem.

I have tried to defrag single files in Defraggler but I end up with the message "Defragmetation Complete. No files were defragmented." and running the program in debug mode let me know that it is unable to move the files.

I have run a number of disk checks which have all said that the drive is working fine.

Any help would be much appreciated, thanks

A:Defragmentation Problems

Probably the space is being used
Try in safe mode if no go
Try in clean boot
How to troubleshoot a problem by performing a clean boot in Windows Vista or in Windows 7

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Dear Friends,

I'm running 64-bit Vista Ultimate with Service Pack 1 (build 6001) and a 250GB hard-drive. I tried running disk disfragmenter manually and after 9 hours it had not finished. I canceled it for lack of any alternative I could think of. Running <Check Disk> brought up no errors.

Anyone experienced the same problem or know anything about it?

Regards to all,

Jack Owens

A:Defragmentation Hangup

Do you have 3rd party partitioning software installed? That can cause that sometimes, although I've only seen it happen on XP 32 bit...

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I bought the boxed FSX Deluxe Edition and when I start the program right after I install it everything runs fine until startup of a flight. I set the settings to max after I ran a system test on my comp saying I could with the 8G of ram, Intel Quad Core and the Nvidia GT220, but it skipped so I figured it was because of FSX being 15Gb and alot of fragmented files. So I ran the defrag and restarted my comp and came back to fly FSX and it wouldn't even start up. I have no idea why it won't, I've tried doing it from startup, going into the disk itself and running auto run and still nothing. I've also tried running as admin and same results
Iv'e tried all of this plus uninstalling then reinstalling three times and same results each time.
I appreciate any help.
Asus CG5270
Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8300 @ 2.50 Ghz
RAM: Four 2048MB RAM each at 800 MHz

A:FSX won't load up after defragmentation

Could you have a virus? Download Malwarebytes and run a Full scan.

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It takes forever, is it worth the wait? does it really improve system performance? I always end up canceling... it just takes way to much time..

A:What are the benefits on defragmentation?

Quote: Originally Posted by yadielfeliciano

It takes forever, is it worth the wait? does it really improve system performance? I always end up canceling... it just takes way to much time..

How much time is too much? defragging has its benifits.

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I have an OEM build of Windows 7 x64 installed and after performing a defragmentation overnight using Ashampoo WinOptimizer 9 I woke up to find that my computer had recovered from an unexpected shutdown (Stop error).

I have followed the directions in the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions thread and you should find the file attached.

My system spec is: Intel Core i7 (Quad core w/ Hyper threading (8 logical cores in total), 1.6GHz with turbo to 2.8 GHz), 4GB of DDR3 RAM installed, nVidia GeForce GT 330M 1GB dedicated graphics card, 750Gb HDD partitioned with a 585 GB main partition and the rest in a recovery partition. I also have an image backup on an external 1TB HDD that includes both partitions.

Would anyone be able to shed a bit of light into this?

A:BSOD after defragmentation

bump... Some insight would be appreciated

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First things first, I apologise if this is in the wrong category, but it seemed fit.

After defragging my Windows 7 system, nothing is working. Okay, over-exaggeration. Booting into safe mode works fine; no issues or errors. However, when booting into it normally, nothing responds. My background, desktop icons and taskbar all load, but are totally unresponsive. I can't even Ctrl+Alt+Del into task manager to see if anything is hogging my CPU. I have ran chkdsk and it came back with no errors. My HDD has no bad sectors. I have made a selective boot up in msconfig, still no luck. My drivers are all up to date and working. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I defragged with Auslogics Defrag tool. Also, I have no restore points post-defrag.

I run Windows 7 Ultimate x86 on a not too old machine; dual-core 2GHz, 3GB RAM etc.

A:Defragmentation Aftermath

True this is not the place. This is for crashes and bsods.

That said, please run the Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper over your computer. Be sure to perform the full scan of your complete computer.

this will take several hours. The time will be well spent. When finished, be sure to attach the logs generated to your next post.

System Sweeper, https://connect.microsoft.com/systemsweeper, allows you to start an infected PC and perform an offline scan to identify and remove viruses, rootkits and other advanced malware. System Sweeper is a free standalone, bootable malware and virus remover from Microsoft.

Safety Scanner, Microsoft Safety Scanner - Antivirus | Remove Spyware, Malware, Viruses Free, is free, downloadable, provides on-demand scanning and helps remove viruses, spyware, and other malicious software. It works with your existing antivirus software.

If the target computer has a working internet connection, then you may prefer to use the Safety Scanner.

NOTE: A fine tutorial on the System Sweeper is:
How to use the Microsoft Standalone System Sweeper
Download System Sweeper (about 576 kB):

Insert 256 MB or larger USB stick into a usb port.
Run the downloaded program--mssstool64.exe or mssstool32.exe
Choose the option to install to USB.
Caution: The install program will format the usb stick.

The install program will download about 200 mB more.
After the install is fi... Read more

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As the title says: do I need to install any defragmentation software or Windows 8 defragmentation tool will do the job just the way as any other payed/free defragmentation software will do?
Other then the actual defragmentation process I am not interested in any kind of extra features, that 3rd party defrag. software might suggest. So if there is any software that will do the defraging any better then the windows default tool will do, pleas decremented me one and if you may, just explain me shortly how it will do better then the default tool from windows ?
Thanks for your time.
Have a great day

A:Do I need HDD Defragmentation software

I think you should leave windows do its own defrag. I've seen others much smarter than I say never use a 3rd party defrag program as they all simply have their own opinion as to what is best and Windows 8 defrag is fine & will rearrange the layout back to its way and end ups with additional wear and tear and wasting energy. End up with a repeating neverending cycle of 3rd party way .. then windows way.

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Registry cleaners are a no no but what about defragmentation?

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while attempting to defragment in my adminstrator account i get following message box " MMC cannot open the file. C:Windows/system 32/drfg.msc. Tis may be because the file does not exist, in not an MMC console or was created by a later version of MMC. This may be also because you do not have sufficirent acces right to file". This problem has started only since last few days. I have Windows XP operating system.

A:Defragmentation problem

Please read this.

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I thought it might be important to make a thread about this,

I discovered a problem for users running OS win8CP of a SSD drive.
SSD are not supposed to be set for de fragmentation aint it?

After looking at that area I see it shows my main drive (SSD) has be selected to be optimized this may explain why the freezing does not take place right after a fresh install of the system.
I discovered this setting via orb/charm bar/control panel/administrative settings/defragmentation.

If it turns out if your SSD's partition isn't aligned correctly it will under-perform and could be the cause for the freezes. If it indeed has defragmented the ssd then a complete reinstall of the OS may be in order or realigning your SSD's partition.

A:Defragmentation of an SSD win8CP

SSDs should be exempt from defrag by default.

If you check it and it's not turned off then you should turn it off.
Defragging an SSD is not recommended, since they are accessed differently than a HDD, defragging won't help it run any faster and will add un-neccessary writes for no benefit.
If it does happen to run it will not harm the SSD or data, it's just not neccesary.

If your SSD is not aligned it will greatly reduce the performance.
An easy way to check if you SSD is properly aligned is to download and open, you do not need to run it, AS SSD benchmark app.
Look in the upper left corner, to the left of the 'Read' box, the fourth down on the list will have some numbers and if it's good a '-OK' and will be in green font, if it is in Red font it is not aligned.

For example:
Intel - the SSD brand
2CV1 - SSD firmware
iaStor - Controller driver
103424 K - OK - Alignment (Red font means not aligned)
111.79 GB - Usable size

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I have windows 7 ultimate w/ 320gb westerndigitals harddisk with 4 partitions.

Now the problem is:

The D drive (2nd partition) is always being displayed 6% fragmented.Yesterday it was 7% and after defragmentation it is stucked on 6%.All of them used to be 0% defragmented after dfrag was done.But now D drive is always shown 6% fragmented Why is it happening plz help me

A:Disk defragmentation

Hello brainiacary.

Have you considered installing a 3rd party defrager to see if you get the same results?

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When I try to defragment drive c I get a message "locked by disc utility, quit any utilities that may have locked the drive"
Can someone tell me how to do this.
I have Norton System installed, when finding & fixing problems it can't fix something to do with Hacker Spider, something my son downloaded, which is now in the recycle bin. So has this got something to do with it.

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Oh! I got myself a new laptop!
Oh! It has windows Vista Home Premium!
Oh! I just rid myself of all of that annoying bundled crap that I didn't want in the firstplace!
Oh! First defrag... right?
So seriously, what is up with vista's defrag? I'm worried it isn't actually doing anything. Is it? I mean... no shuffling lines? No moving boxes? heck, even a flashing circle would be reassuring compared to this. I let it sit for about 2 hours and the box still hadn't changed.
I'm scared, guys. Is anything actually happening?

Would I be able to boot up in a ubuntu livedisk and just do a defrag there? I would at least know something was happening....

So, i guess what I want to know is
Is anything happening when I use the defrag, and if so how effective is it being?
Alternatives to Vista's included defrag program?

A:Defragmentation Woes

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I have had vista ultimate installed for about 2 months now, and recently my pc started to slow down, so i cleaned out my junk files and things like that. I used Disk Keeper 2007 Pro Premiere to defrag my hard drives, and on my C drive there seems to be many fragments which will not go away, even after multiple defrag attempts. (See screenshot).

Can anyone suggest how to get rid of these without formatting the drive?


A:Defragmentation Problem

Why would you even consider formatting the drive? Fragmented files make no difference at all to the operation of your system. Many files are locked and not defragged by Diskeeper, and those are mostly the system restore points. They can only be defragged offline, but they don't hurt anything and are fine fragmented.

I don't know if Diskeeper defrags those offline, but if not, it makes very little difference. You can never get all your files defragged--as soon as you turn off the defragger, more are fragmented and booting fragments many files.

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