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Limit System Restore Size/Hard Drive Space Low

Q: Limit System Restore Size/Hard Drive Space Low

I'm trying to summarize here. I Googled this topic and found bits and pieces about how to do it, but not all together at once.

Original Q & A:

Q: "I have system restore set with an unbound upper limit, is this going to cause any problems later?"

A: "It depends on whether you need the hard drive space that you set for it as it fills up. As the space you set fills up, older restore points will automatically be deleted to make room for the new ones, so you shouldn't have a problem at all."

Now, as for viewing or changing the allocated HD space for System Restore Points, the only thing I can find is doing it via command prompt.

I won't go into what the command prompt is or anything because anybody who is worried about the size of System Restore Points probably knows their way around the command prompt and the Registry as well.

Anyway, to sum it up:

At the command prompt (Admin), to see the currently allocated space type: vssadmin list ShadowStorage

As in:
C:\Windows\System32>vssadmin list ShadowStorage

You will get an output like this:
Used Shadow Copy Storage space: 1.291GB
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space: 1.563GB
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage space: 11.25GB

Sizes you see listed as well as sizes you can enter are in KB, MB, GB, TB, and up.

As you can see, 1.29GB is currently in use on my system.

To change the amount of used HD space: (increase or decrease)

vssadmin Resize /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=4GB

Change the drive letters to what you want (my guess is that we're mostly all talking about C: here, though.)
For "/MaxSize=", change it to what you want.

As a side note, some users complain that they notice available disk space disappearing, though System Restore was disabled for one, some, or all drives present.

The fix was to use vssadmin for all drives in your system.
For example, for drive C:, set it for what you want, and as my system for example, set S: and Z: to 10MB.
That way things on non-system drives won't get out of hand.
This may not apply to you. Personally, I never experienced this problem, however, some people have complained about it and this is how to fix it.

Also, note that (I won't get into all that here) Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) stores more than System Restore Points, so the idea is to set it at a reasonable size.

Preferred Solution: Limit System Restore Size/Hard Drive Space Low

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A: Limit System Restore Size/Hard Drive Space Low

I just paste this into cmd.

vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=C: /On=C: /Maxsize=18GB

and to view what it is currently set at

vssadmin list shadowstorage /On=C:

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Dell Inspiron E1505 running win7.

Bought a new 500 Gb hard drive. I created a win7 system image from my old 50 Gb hard drive and restored it to the new drive, but now the new one is showing 50 Gb size with 412 Gb Unallocated!

I tried to "extend volume" from win7 disk manager but the option is greyed out. I don't want to create a new drive letter, just want my existing C drive to reclaim alll of the unallocated stuff.

How can I do this? Thanks.

attached disk manager screen shot


A:after system restore, new hard drive shows wrong size

Hi !

47 MB OEM partition, But what is the 3.33 GB primary partition ?

About the 411 MB unallocated , you download Partition Wizard Bootable CD , burn it in a cd , and boot from it . Choose 1 for resolution . Now when it shows your drive partitions , you select the unallocated space and create a new partition there (If you want to use it as your data partition , format it as logical) .

If there is any further query , please inform . Post back with results

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I have quite a problem here. I have an HP A6200N (French) computer, which is only about 10 months old. I caught a virus two days ago and as nothing could be done, I used the master CDs that were given to me with the computer that were supposed to restore everything back to factory settings...

But there's a bit of a problem. The restore itself did work and reinstalled Windows Vista... but there's a serious HDD issue. I have 2 HDDs in my computer. I have a 160GB Western Digital (WDC WD16 00JD-22HBB0) that was added in from my previous computer and a 360GB Seagate Barracuda (ST336032) that was this computer's main hard drive. Thing is, before I did the restore, I had 4 partitions:

C: was my main partition (329GB), D: was my Documents partition (19.5GB), E: was the factory image drive (not sure how big it was) and F: is the other hard drive (129GB).

After the restore, this is what I have...

C: is now 48.8GB, D: is still 19.5GB, E: is 9.76GB and F: is still 129GB.

Where has all my hard drive space gone? All I did was slip the master CD in and chose "restore to factory settings" and the rest was pretty much done by itself. When I finally got back into Vista, when I checked into My Computer, I got the shock of finding out my C: shrunk from 329GB to 48.8GB!

I can definitely hold my own in multimedia apps but I'm honestly not much tech-savvy at all when it comes to hardware and systems properties. Could anyone point out what the... Read more

A:Missing hard drive space after system restore?

Take a look at your disks using the Disk Management console.

Could well be the missing space is now unallocated space on the drives.

Click here

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I just installed Windows 8.1 on my system (from Windows 8) and had to restore to an earlier time (to one from earlier today). The issue is that my solid state hard drive was reduced by about 20 Gigs! I even deleted the other restore points and rebooted, but my hard drive has about 136 gigs of space. Before the restore, it was 156.

Does windows restore really eat up this much hard drive space? Is there a way to get it back?

A:System Restore Took 20 Gigs of Hard Drive Space

Hi there and welcome to eightforums,I dont think a restoration would "cost" you 20 Gigs,was there a big game installed while you made that restore point?You could always install TreeSize and see where all of your disk consumption goes.

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I had no choice but to do system restore and found it consumed a lot of Hard drive space on computer.

I wonder if there is any safe method to get back consumed space by system restore?
Or can we Undo system restore to get back consumed space safely?

Any help (if possible with images) will be appreciated.

Thank you

A:System restore consumed much Hard drive space

Originally Posted by Ari94

I had no choice but to do system restore and found it consumed a lot of Hard drive space on computer.

I wonder if there is any safe method to get back consumed space by system restore?
Or can we Undo system restore to get back consumed space safely?

Any help (if possible with images) will be appreciated.

Thank you

Hi Ari, welcome to VF, i see we are having a problem with System resote consuming hard drive space.

luckily you can set the allocation to system restore and other advanced settings, just right click computer either from the start menu or desktop, click on properties, on the left of that window there is an option for system protection, click on that, now you'll get a window that looks like this:

now look for your system hard drive and click on configure, this will allow you to set how much space is allocated to system restore.

I have 1TB hard drive as my default HDD, it allocates 1% which is 10GB which is quite a lot but you can also set the level of restoring that happens from that screen as well

hope this helps


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I used the system restore on my computer, but since I didn't have any restore points it went back to its original state.
Afterward I noticed that my hard drive lost a whole bunch of space. Is there a way to recover that space?

A:Lost space on hard drive after system restore

I never use Restore, however, I would imagine the lost space is the original system backed up.

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Really don't think this is normal - just noticed my hard drive available space ticking down, right in front of my eyes - on the order of about 1G in 15-20 min. After mucking around a bit, discovered that turning off system restore made it stop. Another clue - when I boot in safe mode, there's about 2G MORE available hard drive space shown (in windows explorer), then when I boot back to normal mode that 2G is mysteriously gone again... this is weird.

Is this a virus? Ran all the scans but came up empty.

thanks for any info.


A:system restore eating hard drive space WAY too fast

What antivirus program are you using?

Certain versions of ZoneAlarm can fill up System Restore really quickly but it would not put that much in that quickly.

Is this 1 gig being taken up every 15-20 minutes, or did it just happen in one 15-20 minute period each day?

Have you looked in the System Restore folder to see how big your individual restore points are?

How big is your hard drive?

I do not see why System Restore would make any difference in available space shown in Safe Mode.

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Hey there, so I've just been looking at my old desktop PC and i was looking into the system restore settings and seen that 12% of disc space is reserved for restore points. i've changed this 10% now as the PC barely gets any use anyway, will that be ok? (Equates to about 10GB)
I also noticed that my 2nd hard drive was enabled for system restore... However, this drive only has media on it, no programs, no operating system nothing, just music files.  Now my question is, can i use this drive for system restore points even though the OS is not installed on it? The Reason I ask is because i have a lot more free space on this drive...  If not, should I just go ahead and disable monitoring on that drive?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

A:System restore disk space usage and using on a 2nd hard drive?

First of all yes, 10% is fine. Second, system restore keeps it's files in a hidden folder named "System Volume Information", and there is one of those folders on each drive on which System Restore is enabled. Last, the system restore points for any given drive MUST be stored on that drive.
Personally, I'd suggest disabling system restore completely and using disc imaging software instead.

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Losing Hard drive space again. First time, it was due to system restore points (had several) along with large shadow copy allocation (now, system restore off and shadow copy size down to 700mb). Havent installed any new programs within last 2 days (that is approx when this occurred) but been receiving error message that last backup couldnt be completed. I also turned off user account control during this time period (really cant remember why, but it helped). Now I have 6.9 G of "unknown space" according to spacesniffer and same space is unaccounted for in treesize as well. I dont want to continue to lose hard drive space, esp. since I cant tell where it is going!!!!
Have Vista 32 with 3gb Ram and 115gb of free hard drive space (lost almost 7g in last day). It wouldnt bother me if I just knew where it was and could stop it.
Thanks in advance and always appreciate the help

A:Solved: Losing Hard Drive Space AGAIN but not due to system restore!

if system restore is off and any imagining software is off/uninstalled and you have checked you do not have a zillion music files than looking like a bug, if above correct please click report and ask to move to spyware/maware forum, if they say ok you will be moved back to this forum

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I just built a new system...and I am having many problems with my hard drives. I have on old 20gig hardrive that I have my os (xp) on and two 250 gig SATA. The 250's dont show up on "my computer" but i check the device manager and they are there but "unallocated"...I think I should format them but they only show as 128gigs is there a way to fix this? I had them on RAID 0 but deleted the array because I couldnt find a way to store anything on them...am I being stupid ?

I read the sticky thread about this...you maydisregard the first question but if you have a suggestion please go ahead.

A:Is there a limit on hard drive size?

[I believe this should be in another part of the forum...]

128 GB is basically the BIOS ATA limit, and you seem to have hit it hard.

Looks like your BIOS is too old and still tries and exports the IDE disk characteristics using its own registers.

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Hey guys I was wondering if it's possible to put in a 3 or 4 tb hard drive into my laptop. The current max it says in the manual is 1 TB, but it also says that for other laptops but is possible to upgrade. I have an m.2 nvme 256 gb and a crucial 750 GB SSD in it right now. They are GPT formatted and it does have uefi, so I don't think it'll be an issue. But I've read about HP limiting sizes in the BIOS.  And also I cannot find this type of connector cable anywhere or what it's called. I do have pictures of it though. Thank you http://s36.photobucket.com/user/ahsfisher/library/?view=recent

A:Hard drive size limit in BIOS? What connector is the drive

@djmagnum You're going to have a problem using any drive larger than 2TB because they have to be formatted GPT -- and unless your current drive is also formatted GPT, you will not be able to "clone" it onto the new drive due to formatting differences. Here's a thread that shows you how to check to see what formatting was used for your drive:  http://www.multibooters.com/guides/determine-if-hard-drive-is-mbr-or-gpt.htmlGood Luck

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I was just curious, does the size you specify for allocated system restoration space have anything to do with the Windows boot menu option for reverting to a previous time when settings worked?

I am curious how that works since you do not actually get a restore time selection unless you actually successfully boot up into Windows.


A:Size of allocated system restore space?

Um what?

Actually I was asking if the amount of system restore space you chose has any relation to the "last known good configuration" in the XP boot menu.

For instance, will XP have a better chance of finding a last known good configuration if you have system restore set to a larger portion of the harddrive?

I am not sure if the "last known good configuration" option has anything to do with system restore or not....


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I did a system restore on my computer due to a driver misbehaving that was not allowing me to boot at the normal speed. After the restore, I attempted to delete some files that I had previously deleted because I needed to make some space on that drive. Before the deletion I had 24.6 gigabytes of free space on a drive that contained 57 gigs of info. Now when I go to my computer and click on the C: icon in order to assess the statistics, I notice that the amount of free space has changed to 53.3 gigabytes of info. However, all the programs and some of the data I had originally are all in place.

Can someone show me or give me a hint as to what happened and how to restore this disk to the original amount of free space.

Here are my specs:
Soyo Mobo PX400Ultra
Zenith Data systems CRT monitor
560 Watts Thermaltake Power supply
GEforce MX400 video card
Audigy 2 sound card
Primary IDE is c: 57 gigabytes HDD (the one that shows the difference in free space)
Secondary IDE Lite-On DVD RW drive
Terciary IDE: RAID 0 array containing 2 60 Gigs HDDs configured as G:
Thermaltake wireless keyboard and mouse
USB devices and LAN have been disabled in the BIOS

I did run Spybot and corrected a few problems.

Thanks in advance for any help that you can provide.

A:Size of free space on HDD has changed after system restore

If everything is working, why do you want to have less free space?

Sounds like you got rid of 20GB of junk. Be happy I say.

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Why is it that the computer does not show the full amount of space available on a hard drive that is empty?

For example, I have an 80gb drive and it said that I have 76.69gb available even when there was nothing on it! My 60gb drive says 57.27 is available. And when I partition them the partition sizes add up to those numbers. Where does the extra space go and why so much?

Also....when I partitioned it asked me what size I wanted my clusters...64k, 32k, 16k, 8k, 4k, etc. Now I understand that the smaller cluster size means less wasted space when files are saved but what is an optimum size or does it matter?

A:Hard Drive Space and Cluster Size

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Hello everyone,

I installed Ubuntu 10.04 on my computer about 3 months ago, so i split my 500gb hard drive into 2 big partitions. But now i didn't feel the need for Ubuntu anymore, and decided to delete the partition. Now i have 173GB of free space on my hard drive that i want to put onto my C: drive where my windows partition is.

The problem is the c: drive will not give me the option to extend the partition, and i have no idea how to get that free space on to my windows C: partition.

If you guys could help, that would be great


Btw i have posted a picture of my disk management so you can see what it looks like currently

A:Increasing size of c: partition from free space on hard drive

Hello helldemon80, welcome to Seven Forums!

Have a look at Options One & Two in this tutorial at the link below to get an understanding of how to go about what you want to do, it will help you recover any space you need to recover.

As the C: is "System, Active" you would be able to recover into C: the "I: System" partition to the left of C: also.

Be sure to post back if you have further questions and to keep us informed.

Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD

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I'm running windows vista on a dell xps m1330. I've been trying to reduce the used space on my hard drive and locate what is using up most of it. It appears that the cause is my Itunes Music Folder. The first time i checked the size that the folder was, it said 97 GB. So I looked through it and the size of individual folders did not seem to add up. Then I checked the folder size again and it had changed to 47 GB. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this?

A:Hard Drive Used Space (Itunes music folder keeps changing size???)

kamikazemike6 said:

I'm running windows vista on a dell xps m1330. I've been trying to reduce the used space on my hard drive and locate what is using up most of it. It appears that the cause is my Itunes Music Folder. The first time i checked the size that the folder was, it said 97 GB. So I looked through it and the size of individual folders did not seem to add up. Then I checked the folder size again and it had changed to 47 GB. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this?Click to expand...

could be anything from deleted files that didnt get removed until reboot, to a back stored in the wrong place. we need more info

Ken J

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Dear All,

I run windows 7 on Bootcamp on Mac. I wanted to re-size the Mac partition and give windows larger space. So I backed up windows which generated several files (among which is a .vhd file). Now I have increased the windows partition from 32G to 100G, then I restored from the .vhd (that lives on an external hard drive) using Windows 7 install DVD. However, the restored windows shows a hard disk drive of only 32G.

So how can I force the restore to skip the original size of the hard drive?



A:Restore to new size hard drive

Hi Mags, welcome to the Seven Forums.

To start, double posting is against our rules. Your post here is exactly the same, so I have asked mods to remove it. This is a backup issue, not virtualization issue.

Back to the topic. After restoring to bigger partition, start Windows and type diskmgmt.msc to Start menu's search field and hit Enter. This opens Windows 7 Disk Management Utility.

Enlarge the Disk Management window big enough to show all information without need to scroll. Take a screenshot and post it here. Instructions on posting screenshots: Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums


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I recently used my system image disk to restore on a new (larger) hard drive but now when I look at the hard drive from the computer view it shows my hard drive as being the same size as the old one instead of being the size of the new one. I'm not sure
I'm making much sense so I will post a picture...

Is there anyway to fix this? Does the drive really only have 286 gigs on it?

A:System Image disks installed on new hard drive show new hard drive same size as old one

You have to be logged in as Admin to perform these operations.
Go to Start, and in the Search box, type in DISK MANAGEMENT. Pick the Control Panel item "Create and format disk partitions." Once Disk Management comes up, right-click on the area of your disk and select "Extend volume..." Move it out
as far as you want, making the whole thing one drive.
If that doesn't work for you, then you can download Easeus Partition Manager Home
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm  and create a boot CD from it that will accomplish the same thing (and more, if you want to read up on it). It's a free program and works
with 32- and 64-bit Windows. I like it and use it myself.

SC Tom

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Thanks for taking the time to read my question.

I have been backing up a 2TB drive using the Windows 7 backup and it seems to be creating an image as part of the backup. Does anyone know if I can restore this image to a different size drive if the amount of data that is being backed up is not greater than the new drive size? Or is it similar to an iso image, which I believe has to go to the same size drive.

The reason is I want to get rid of the 2TB drive with the OS on it and add a raid array that would be approximately 600GB in size, but I don't want to do a full install of Windows, etc. so I would like to use the backup to install it to the raid array. I assume, in theory, this is possible because the array is handled through the bios.

Any help would be appreciated.

A:System Restore: To different size drive?

Also, make sure that the disk that you're restoring the backup to is the same size or larger than the disk that you backed up.


Note: You will have to make a clone - e.g. with Acronis.

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My old Seagate 1TB hard drive was filled to 780GB out of the 1TB. Since I was getting close to filled I upgraded to a WD Black 2TB. I used the Windows 7 back up to create a complete system image. I replaced the hard drive with the WD then did a system restore from the image. Everything works fine and everything looks exactly the same except the new hard drive is only showing 322GB used out of the 2TB. I now have both hard drives in the computer and opened up the contents side by side, they both contain the same files and folders. The 1TB drive is showing 780GB used and the 2TB drive is only showing 322GB used. Am I missing something here? Shouldn't they both have the same amount of space used?

A:New hard drive using less space after image restore then old drive?

I think it only copy your operating system drive to your new disk?
You can check your disks in Disk Management. And also you can create new volumes there.
Right click on Computer - Manage. You will see Disk Management.

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I did today a system restore and playing around for 30 minutes with my laptop i realised that something was not going good. The laptop was slower. I opened task manager and I saw that that hard disk had activity with random spikes and the more strange was that when i leave the laptop in idle the disk goes to 100%. Moving the mouse later it goes straigh to zero with the spikes remaining after.(You can see on picture)
Later I realised that I constantly loose free space in C drive(still loosing..). Any solutions?

A:Hard Disk free space lick after system restore windows 8.1

Welcome to the Forums.
The first thing I would do is a full scan with the free


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Hello all, I want to add a harddisk to my emachine--celeron 633IDS. my first time doing this, so i am not sure if there is a LIMIT to the size of the harddisk i can add??
i have included the specs of the pc form the emachines site, if it is of anyhelp.

*****Specifications of eTower® 633ids*******

Intel® Celeron 633 MHz (w/128KB L2 Cache)
Intel 810 Chipset, 66 MHz FSB
64 MB SDRAM (1 DIMM available for upgrade up to 256MB)
56K* ITU v.90 PCI internal Fax/Modem
Built-in 12x Max. DVD-ROM; 3.5" 1.44 MB FDD
Keyboard; Mouse; Stereo Speakers
Intel 82801 AC '97 Audio
Intel Direct 3D 2x AGP (shared memory)
2 USB ports (1 is on front bezel); 1 Serial; 1 Parallel; 1 Midi/Game; 2 PS/2; Audio In & Out, Microphone In; 3 Expansion slots - 2 available

also, if you have any canadian deals that would be great(i'm looking at the one at FS -- 120GB for 169.99). US deals are welcome too as i live minutes from the border but i'm not sure how to sneak it through.


A:Hard disk size LIMIT for celeron 633?

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Dear Friends, hope all is well...

I was wondering about changing the various Storage spaces listed in the attachments. What good would that do for me? What numbers would be safe to change them to?

Used Shadow Copy Space Storage
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage space
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage
Thanks again,

Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version
OS Version: Microsoft® Windows Vista? Home Premium, Service Pack 2, 32 bit
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2330 @ 1.60GHz, x64 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13
Processor Count: 2
RAM: 2037 Mb
Graphics Card: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family, 448 Mb
Hard Drives: C: 100 GB (47 GB Free); D: 11 GB (1 GB Free);
Motherboard: Hewlett-Packard, 30D9
Antivirus: Trend Micro AntiVirus, Enabled and Updated

A:System Restore Use Less Drive Space in Windows Vista

dino7 said:

What good would that do for me?Click to expand...

Probably none. Why are you thinking of changing anything? The computer, or at least the hard drive, will probably die before you run out of the maximum Shadow Copy Storage. So why increase it? You still have 47 GB free space on the "C drive" so why decrease the maximum Shadow Copy Storage until when and if you begin to get low on hard drive free space?

If that partition called the "C drive" is most or all the hard drive then, if you acquire considerably more data, you will probably need a larger hard drive instead of fiddling with the allocation of space on it.

dino7 said:

What numbers would be safe to change them to?Click to expand...

If you do not expect to change the way you use the computer I'd say you could safely change the max. Shadow Copy Storage to anything from 2 GB to 30 GB.

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hi guys, I have been browsing through the topics here. and although there have been a few that address the problem of reduced free space, no solution seems to work for me here.

I'm running on windows XP, and my C drive is 60GB. the first time when I had system restore, the drive had like almost 40GB free space. but after my second system restore just now, it shows only 20GB free space. I have tried running disk cleaner (even deleting the old restore points), Ccleaner and deleting all other temporary files, but the drive still cannot have much more free space.

the weird thing is, even though drive c shows only 20GB free space and 40GB used space, when I open drive C, and display all hidden files and folders and see properties, it shows that all files and folders under C only occupy about 17GB.

I am really troubled over this. please help!!!

A:Drive C free space reduced after system restore

TreeSize FreeV2.2.1http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtmlYou might try this

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I'm amateur pc user. Been trying fix problems all week. Changed power box due to over heating, used AVG & Superantispyware. Keeps asking to reboot and choose boot device, and several hints of mysterious behavior inside machine. Feels like something is eating it (paranoid spirituality). Anyone know what's going on. Please be gentle with me;Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2Scan saved at 14:43:58, on 30/04/2010Platform: Windows Vista SP2 (WinNT 6.00.1906)MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18904)Boot mode: NormalRunning processes:C:\Program Files (x86)\IObit\Advanced SystemCare 3\AWC.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\AASP\1.00.61\aaCenter.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\Kontiki\KHost.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\IObit\Advanced SystemCare 3\Sup_SmartRAM.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\DT Utilities\DT Utilities PC Backup Pro\mgCtrl.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\AVG\AVG9\avgtray.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\Entriq\MediaSphere\EntriqMediaTray.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\Entriq\MediaSphere\\EntriqMediaServer.exeC:\Windows\Integrator.exeC:\Program Files (x86)\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exeR0 - HKCU\Software\Micr... Read more

A:Unknown problem,system restore&recycle bin&2nd hard drive vanished, 2nd hard drive

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Hi. I did an F10 recovery. Afterwards, my hard drive is using twice as much space.

In safe mode, I have: Administrator (34M), HP_Administrator (101G). But under C/Documents and Settings, I show both above users plus HP_Administrator.YOUR-55E5F9E3D2.

I would like to delete all unecessary users while not losing any necessary information. I am the only person who uses the computer and do not need to set any special user accounts or passwords.

A:Did system recovery (F10) now am using twice as much space on hard drive

Did you select the option to backup user data during the recovery?

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I got a 1.5TB hd for Christmas and am thinking of buying a new computer and installing the new 1.5TB drive inside. The computer I'm looking at - a refurbished Gateway Core 2 Quad has a 750GB hard drive. So I'd have over 2TB in the computer. I seem to remember hearing that the upper limit is 2TB. Is that correct?


A:Is there a limit to how much disk drive storage space can be used?

I've not heard of a maximum but I have over 3TB myself with no problems.

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I went to SSDs on all of my computers some time back, but I still use WD RE4s and 2.5 inch WD Black HDDs for a variety of backup tasks and for storage in which the data will not be accessed for a period longer than is ideal to use a non-powered SSD for. On my Macs I am using El Capitan with OS X Journeled, GUID map, and FileVault 2 encryption. On my SP3 and desktop I am using NTFS with Win 10 64-bit Pro with BitLocker enabled on both machines. The OS and third party programs are currently up to date.

I've generally used ExFAT and the GPT partition map because it allows me to use it on all of my computers, and I have always used the default cluster size. However, I do not think the default size was the best decision for me because the size on disk is over TWICE the actual size.

If I am correct, the default Win 10 cluster size is 4k, and that going BELOW that is useful for the drives I have many smaller files on. Is this correct? Additionally, the smaller cluster size I go, the slower the drive will write, correct? Also, if so, how low do you advise going? I am still torn between reformatting outright or trying one of the programs that allows changes to a currently in-use drive. Any advice? Thanks!

A:Hard drive cluster size issues? Size on HDD over twice the actual size

For the a sector size of 4k to double your disk utilization you'd have to have a really tiny average file size. From your numbers shown the average size if I calculate it correct is 132kb (unless you have 1 massive file and 17,711 tiny ones) so a 4k size will make no difference.

You could check with TreeSize Free - it will tell you if you right click on the status bar and select it to be displayed.

EDIT - having checked the default for ExFat is 128k for drives over 32GB (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/140365) and when I tried to format an external USB drive that is what it picked. According to macbook - Reformat exFat with specific Device Block Size and Cluster Size - Ask Different OSX picks 128k also.

So if you had 128k as your cluster size minimum disk utilization would be 17,772 files * 128k = 2.17GB. So if all your files were just over this (say 132k which looks like your current average size) you would be using 4.44GB add a couple of big files and it could easily be 6GB.

I would check your average file sizes and also your current cluster size (you can use chkdsk as described in the AskDifferent link above).

The default is 4k for NTFS and I have always formatted ExFat as 4k also. Depending on your current setting reformatting 4k looks like a good idea.

As for how - copying the data elsewhere, formatting and then copying it back has to be the easiest, safest and most likely fastest way. You'll also get the disk defragmented automatical... Read more

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I was wondering after all the normal cleaning and maintenance how do I fix my problem when I get an error on my photo program that says not enough disk space on hard drive containing your system folder, need to free up more space. I have a new computor that has
dual core processor
3.20 ghz
4GB RAM memory
871 GB of free space
win 7
I Have oen pcture open that I am trying to print as a bussiness card that I want to print in a multiple print on a page of 10 and it won't allow me to print. Can someone please help me.

A:free disk space on system folder hard drive?

You have 871 gb of free space yet it is saying that you have no free space? I doubt that is true, can you show me a screenshot of Computer to see the 'free space' on your drives.


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I have a 232GB Hard Drive which is 97% full, I wanted to clear some stuff up so I downloaded a programme called WizTree, it told me that System Volume Information was taking up 74.4% of my hard drive space, I didn't want to start endlessly deleting files because they look pretty important, but they're taking up 168.1GB of space! Is there anyway I can decrease this number? What are these files even for?

A:System Volume Information - Taking up so much hard drive space?

Not sure what's implied here with ' System Volume Information '. It could be the shadowstorage where the restore points are stored. That could be easily fixed. Run the command below and post the result.

vssadmin list shadowstorage

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I have system restore set with an unbound upper limit, is this going to cause any problems later?

A:system restore limit

Hello Roger,

It really depends on if you need the hard drive space that you set for it as it fills up. As the space you set fills up, older restore points will automatically be deleted to make room for the new ones, so you shouldn't have a problem at all.

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Over the holidays I purchased and installed a new Seagate 120GB hard drive on my system. I used the Disc Magic application that came with the drive and set up my hard drive to be the new bootable and only hard drive in the system.

Everything ran smooth and I was happy. Last night I tried to install new drivers for my sound card, things got real ugly after that. I figured I would just use system restore and revert my system to before the installation. I keep getting the system restore crashed and got the send error message to MS.

No big deal I put the old drive back in re-set up the new drive got everything working again with the old drive. I then went through the process of setting up the new hard drive again. I am now at the point where everything works except system restore. I can’t even start the application from the control panel.

Any Ideas?

Thank you

A:New Hard drive and System Restore

Ok I figured that there wasn't enough information for anyone to help me so here is the exact message I get when I try to click on the system restore tab in the control pannel

an exception occurred while trying to run "c:\windows\system32\shell32.dll,control_rundll "c:\windows\system32\sysdm.cpl",system"

dose anyone have an idea of what i can do please

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Hey gang, got a quick question.

In another thread, some very kind folks here are helping me to try and remove some really pesky spyware/virus type of thing, something that won't go away no matter what I do.

I'm hoping I can get it off my machine soon, but if I can't, I'm prepared to do a system recovery of some sort. Either by creating recovery discs, or using Compaq's system restore software that's supposed to let you go back to a certain point, in my case, to a point before I got whatever it is on my machine.

In any case, my question is, if I do this, what are the chances that it'll mess up my 2nd hard drive? I installed it myself and there's nothing on there but files (music, text, etc). There's no windows files on there, nothing essential to running the computer, just data. However, I'd hate to lose that data when I try the system restore. I'm worried the drive will somehow get formatted, or even worse, that it'll just end up dead and useless, etc.

Do you think I should remove the drive before attempting a system restore? And if so, if the system comes back to life and doesn't recognize the drive when I put it back in, will that mean I'll have to format it anyhow?

As you can tell from reading this- I'm pretty much a novice about this sort of thing. And as I say, I'm really hoping to NOT need to do a system restore. However, it's becoming more and more apparant that I may need to do ... Read more

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Hi All,
My hard drive recently died but before that I made a System Image on my Iomega external hard drive. (Windows 7)

I have just had a new hard drive installed with Windows 7. I located the System Image backup on my external hard drive but can't find a way to install it. On the hard drive there is no way apparent to start the recovery.

I tried Control Panel/Recovery/ Advanced etc but all that comes up is LizPC (which was an extra backup for my Docs and Pics) It does not list the System Image which has my Keepass Password Manager on (hopefully)
which I need to set up my Windows Live Email account.

If anyone can help I would be enormously grateful as I am completely lost and have no passwords.

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hi folks,if i leave the external hardrive plugged in and i do a system restore, would it also restore the external hardrive to a previous date , i did a clone image with acronis true image and i'm sorry i did, thanks for any help you can give...patch41

A:Will system restore external hard drive

when you made your restore point if you included your external drive you can. If you didn't include the external drive when you set the restore point then the external drive will be visible but no restore point will be available for it.

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I will soon perform a system restore for my laptop. I'm working with Vista and a 150gb hard disk.

Currently there are 2 partitions in it (plus a restore partition, but I'm not counting it as a usable one). I'm not quite satisfied with this setup. I'm trying to segregate my system files to protect me from future infections and failures. So, we are looking at a preferred 3 partitions as a result [C, D, E], one for system, one for user stuff, and one for miscellaneous stuff.

A few questions emerge with this plan:
- How much space should my system drive contain? (With Vista, whatever other system files there are, and a possible 5gb of program files)
- How can I successfully move the Users to another partition? And make sure my computer isn't confused at the movement of the folder.

*I'm familiar with partitioning and restoring. I have proper software for partitioning. And I plan to format the second [current] partition to start fresh, of course, after I move my data.

A:Solved: Hard Drive/ System Restore

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I have just installed a second hard drive which I only use for backup purposes.

Do I need to have System Restore monitoring this drive or not ?

A:System Restore Monitoring Second Hard Drive?

I would turn off system restore if it's just used for data or backups. Only reason to have System Restore enabled is if you have programs or system files installed that actually run from that drive.


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I have been reading articles online that indicate if the target hard drive size is smaller than the source hard drive you cannot perform a restore. I believe I did a restore on my computer running 8.1 pro 64bit where I went from 1 tb to a 250 gb ssd.

So on my other computer being on Windows 7 64bit. I have a restore on an external HD and the size of the drive as the source was 1tb and the target is 500gb. It comes back to inform me the target ssd size is too small.

Any suggestions to make the restore onto the new ssd?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

A:Restore system image to new hard drive

Quote: Originally Posted by David from Az

I have been reading articles online that indicate if the target hard drive size is smaller than the source hard drive you cannot perform a restore.

This is true for Windows inbuilt imaging. I suggest you try (free) Macrium Reflect or pay a small amount and buy Paragon Migrate. Paragon is a simple turnkey approach. Macrium requires a little more effort:
SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System
I think with Macrium 5 the "drag & drop" transfer takes care of the smaller destination partition and the alignment.

If you can't make a new image and "must" use an old Windows image then you can try to attach/mount the old image vhd then use Macrium. This tutorial describes the basic process.
System Image - Recover a Broken Windows 7 System Image

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Hello,My computer has become relatively unresponsive once I log in. If any programs run they are extremely slow (chrome, photoshop, or steam). As far as I know the majority of the issues manifested when I updated my laptop first to 8.1 and then when attempting to update to windows 10 (which failed). I have since backed up my computer onto an external hard drive.I have tried:A system refresh  (fails) A system restore (fails - windows could not complete this action)Rebooting the computer from a Thumb drive ( a fresh version of Win 8 64bit)From safe mode -Failed From the BIOS (changing the boot order to switch to the thumb drive) This worked but then asked for the windows 8.1 Product Key which I do not have because the computer was purchased with Windows 8.1. I am working on finding the windows key now but I no longer think that the OS is the main issue.  A System Extensive Test -FailedThe Hard Drive Short Disk DST check FailedThe Failure ID: 634384-7GC8G1-MFPV6K-60V503Product ID:J9N57UA #ABA Thank you for your time and Happy New Year!

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I've just spent a day taking System Image backup images of three different hard drives. Well ok I didn't just sit and watch the bar move across the screen although it did hold up my computer. Anyway, what a waste of a day from my PC because
when I try to restore using System Image backup from my USB drive, the USB drive cannot be found. I have followed the procedure on page 750 of Configuring Windows 7, 70-680 precisely.  I tried booting from an OS DVD and a Windows Repair
DVD, but no USB drive.  I tried using a blank usb stick and that can't be found either. The USB drive can be seen when I logon to Windows to get the images on it. Might this be more to do with hardware such as adjusting BIOS boot settings,
or updating BIOS firmware. There seems to be others with unresolved problems like this. Should I join them and buy Acronis instead?

A:System Image Restore can't see USB hard drive


Could you please check the following newsgroup posts for your answer. The posts lists different scenarios that might work for you.




Best Regards,
Kim Zhou

Please remember to click ?Mark as Answer? on the post that helps you, and to click ?Unmark as Answer? if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread.

Thanks for sending me these links and I will check them out. I think I came across most of the answer on the following link although doubts are raised: 

Basically, I should have had three files on the external drive as follows:
a.      A file named: MediaID.bin

b.      A file that has the same named as your computer name (this is where the .zip files are located).

c.      The 'System Image' folder named 'WindowsImageBackup'.
By moving my backups into a folder out of the way and... Read more

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Ive sent my computer to some guy to fix it because it wouldnt turn on. After he gave it back there was windows 7 installed on it. Later i could not boot up my computer and f8 would not work. I figured out that the windows 7 that was installed was pirated. So i want to remove the pirated windows 7 but cant get computer to boot or return to factory settings. So should i buy a new hard drive? I have a compaq sr2150nx. And if i should what type of hard drive should i get? Any help would be appreciated.

A:Should i get a new hard drive? System restore not working!

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A:System restore and hard drive prob


Have you made sure all of your drivers are up to date...

Do you have malwarebytes installed on you system if not I would recommend that you download it and run a full scan here is a link for you to use. Download the free version. Malwarebytes....

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Hi I am running a new latitude e6510 64-bit and I am trying to create system image to a new hard drive I purchased when I bought the new computer for back up. The new drive is WD Blue Scorpio. I loaded win7 pro on the new drive and did create system image. When I tried to restore system image it says restore failed. I called WD and they said I had to remove win 7 pro and only do a format then create system image. I tried that and now it will do the system image but when I load it in to my computer it can not find (bootmgr is missing) and I have to shut down.
I am doing the system image through my USB port onto my new hard drive.
I have done this before with no problems, now I have been trying for over a week and it still won’t work. Can you tell me where I can find information on creating a system Image and Restore on a New hard drive?

A:create system image and restore New hard drive

Can you clarify
1) You have a PC with Windows 7 Pro installed?
2) You bought a new HDD as a "cold" standby / backup drive in case the normal drive fails?
3) You don't plan to have both HDDs installed together?
4) What is the size of existing and new HDDs?

5) What's the partition structure of your existing HDD
Partition descriptions, Sizes
screen shot from disk management would help but don't worry at this stage if you don't know how to do it.

Suggest you delete your personal email address from the post. Communicate through the forum.

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I have a HP 6000dv with an 80 gb HD. I am running Win XP media center. I purchased this in 07. I recnely had to perform a system recovery as advised or prompted. I used the disc that came with the machine. Prior to performing System Recovery, my Hard Drive had approximately 60% of free space. Now it has 12% and I have removed the games and nothing more. I have not installed any new programs. Why is it that I have less disc space? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. tj

A:Solved: Hard Drive near Capacity upon System Restore

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Hi. I have 2 1.5 TB internal hard drives for a Windows 7, 64 bit Pro system.

My second hard drive keeps getting filled up by huge (200-400 GB) files that are apparently generated by System Restore and System Image.

I'd like to keep the System Restore functionality, but is there a way to limit the size of this to something reasonable? (say less than 50 GB)

Currently have a 400 GB System Image file with .vhd extension. Is it safe to simply delete that? And can I limit the size of these files as well or simply prevent them from being generated?


A:System restore and image filling hard drive

You can reduce disk space taken up by system restore and also clean up old points.

Make System Restore Use Less Drive Space in Windows 7 - How-To Geek

As for the backup image, just delete the folder WindowsImageBackup, it will deletes all existing images. Next time you create an image, it'll be recreated. You can also save images externally.

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