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Q: Solved: Firefox taking forever loading pages

Hi guys. I'm having some wierd problems with firefox. I don't recall/remember these ever happening when i first used it. But I notice that in forums, for example, if one image is repeated multiple times, it will actually go through the trouble of loading each one, one by one.

In internet explorer 6 and Opera, the very same pages load HELLA fast.

I have a Cable internet connection (by timewarner/roadrunner)

I'm PRETTY sure it was never like this before. Any ideas?

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Could I possibly be infected? I am having problems with accessing any and all webpages. At first, I thought it was just a Mozilla issue, but the same problems occur in Google Chrome and IE. I will type in a URL and press enter and sometimes it will take forever to load, and if I click on the link again, it will bring it up instantly. It seems as if it is stalling. And other times, if I click on the link for a second time, it will say "done" on the bottom left hand side, but it will certainly not be done! I have been having this problem for weeks now and it is driving me crazy!
I have run Spybot, Adaware, Spyware Doctor, Malwarebytes, my AVG antivirus scan, and the free Symantec one on the website. Nothing has been found wrong!
I tried restoring my computer to 4 different restore points but they were all unsuccessful.
I tried uninstalling Zone Alarm, thinking that was causing the problem, but nothing changed. I had k9 web protection on my computer, but uninstalled it weeks ago and I am still having problems. I have the same problem running my wireless or using an ethernet cable; on my network and at a friend's house.
Please help!

A:Web pages taking forever to load or not loading at all

As no logs have been posted, I am shifting this topic from the specialized HiJack This forum to the Am I Infected forum.==>PLEASE DO NOT NOW POST LOGS<== unless a log is specifically requested.

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hi
i have a problem with pages taking forever to load when using ie or firefox. i have done several scans with av and spyware scans but its made no difference. i have not ran gmer as i am running a 64bit version od windows. i hope you can help soon.
thanks


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DDS (Ver_2011-08-26.01) - NTFSAMD64
Internet Explorer: 8.0.7601.17514 BrowserJavaVersion: 1.6.0_29
Run by ian at 15:57:11 on 2011-12-01
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 6.1.7601.1.1252.44.1033.18.4026.2293 [GMT 0:00]
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AV: avast! Antivirus *Enabled/Updated* {2B2D1395-420B-D5C9-657E-930FE358FC3C}
SP: avast! Antivirus *Enabled/Updated* {904CF271-6431-DA47-5FCE-A87D98DFB681}
SP: Windows Defender *Enabled/Updated* {D68DDC3A-831F-4fae-9E44-DA132C1ACF46}
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============== Running Processes ===============
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C:\Windows\system32\wininit.exe
C:\Windows\system32\lsm.exe
C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe -k DcomLaunch
C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe -k RPCSS
C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalServiceNetworkRestricted
C:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe -k LocalSystemNetworkRestricted
C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService
C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService
C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\AvastSvc.exe
C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe
C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Realtek\Audio\HDA\RAVCpl64.exe
C:\Windows\System32\igfxtray.exe
C:\Windows\System32\hkcmd.exe
C:\Windows\System32\igfxpers.exe
C:\Windows\system32\igfxsrvc.exe... Read more

A:pages on ie and firefox taking forever to load

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I see you have ESET Online Scanner installed. Do you have a log from a recent scan? Please post it.

It can be found at C:\Program Files (x86)\Eset\Eset Online Scanner\log.txt

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Please download Temp File Cleaner and save it to your desktop.Save any unsaved work. TFC will close all open application windows.
Right-click TFC.exe then choose 'Run as administrator' and click 'Start'.
Your desktop will disappear, this is normal, it will return.
If prompted, click "Yes" to reboot.
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Firefox is now taking about a minute to fully load the page complete with pictures. I am using a high speed internet connection and it used to take a matter of seconds. Now I am getting very frustrated with Firefox and am thinking of using IE 7 again. Can anyone help me with my problem?

Thanks for all your help!
 

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IE is taking a long time to load pages. For the heck of it I installed Netscape to see if it was that slow there too and its not. Netscape loads the pages almost instantly. For example, when I input ebay.com it takes IE close to a minute to display the page where Netscape only took 5 seconds.

Whats up?

Plus, when I try to access the Help and Support in Windows XP it takes forever to load.

Any ideas?
 

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I have a Dell Inspiron 531 running Windows Vista Home Premium, and lately I noticed that it seems to take forever just to load any of my favorite websites...I have run Super Anti Spyware, and haven't found anything unusual; any suggestions as to what could be causing this super slowdown?

Thanks for your help...

A:IE 9 taking forever to load web pages

Have you tried reconnecting your router, perhaps the problem could lie in your internet rather than your browser. Also try downloading another browser (like google chrome) and see if it makes a difference. Otherwise just re-install IE9 and see if it helps.

Hope you get it running--Gilroy

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Hey guys....I'm new to this forum (in fact I found you b/c of the problems I'm having with ie ver. 6). My browser is hanging and at times will not load my homepage at all (i.e. I get the "this page cannot be dispayed msg.) I read this thread and below you will find my hijackthis log. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated(.....this is driving me INSANE!). Oh...and I have also run Adware (still trying to download Spybot .....browser keeps freezing *sigh*)

Thanks!
Logfile of HijackThis v1.97.6
Scan saved at 6:37:25 PM, on 11/14/2003
Platform: Windows 2000 SP4 (WinNT 5.00.2195)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Netropa\Multimedia Keyboard\nhksrv.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\3Com_DMI\3CDMINIC.EXE
C:\Program Files\Dell\OpenManage\Client\ActionAgent.exe
C:\Program Files\Symantec_Client_Security\Symantec AntiVirus\DefWatch.exe
C:\DMI\WIN32\bin\DellDmi.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\OpenManage\Client\EventAgt.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\OpenManage\Client\DLT.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\OpenManage\Client\Iap.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7Debug\mdm.exe
C:\Program Files\Symantec_Client_Security\Symantec AntiVirus\Rtvscan.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\regsvc.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\MSTask.exe
C:\dmi\win32\bin\Win32s... Read more

A:IE is taking forever to load pages

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Internet Explorer suddenly is taking forever to load webpages (graphics specifically). I reset modem and router and still its going really slow. Any suggestions? I have Zone Alarm for a firewall and I already tried and IE fix. PLEASE HELP

Thanks
 

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hi
the problem i am having is that when i click on a link in google the page the link takes me to takes forever to load sometimes 10 mins or more. Ive tried using firefox but the same happens. ive scanned with housecall which found nothing and malwarebytes which also found nothing and superantospyware which found some spyware which i deleted and rebooted but still the same problem. i have tried to run hijackthis to provide a log file but i am unable to do this as i get an warning message that hijack this could not access the hosts file??
here are my systen specs i hope someone can help soon
thanks

Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version 1.0.0.2
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium, Service Pack 1, 64 bit
Processor: Celeron(R) Dual-Core CPU T3500 @ 2.10GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10
Processor Count: 2
RAM: 4025 Mb
Graphics Card: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family, 1820 Mb
Hard Drives: C: Total - 225060 MB, Free - 111935 MB;
Motherboard: Packard Bell, SJV52_MV
Antivirus: avast! Antivirus, Updated and Enabled

i have now managed to run hijackthis here is the log file

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 15:39:15, on 01/12/2011
Platform: Unknown Windows (WinNT 6.01.3505 SP1)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.7601.17514)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Download Manager\IDMan.exe
C:\Program Files (x86)\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\hpqtra08.exe
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A:browser taking forever to load pages please help

That's an old version of HiJackThis that was released long before Windows 7 was released.

Uninstall it and then replace it with HiJackThis 2.0.4.

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If you go to Control Panel - User Accounts, then change the UAC setting to "Never Notify", then restart the computer, HiJackThis will work properly without displaying a warning message.

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On all browsers my pages will not load most of the time or may start but freeze shortly after. It is also taking forever for the browser itself to load. Chrome seems to be the worst. In my previous post after running a program and reboot I got a floating box "Input Not Supported" box that bounces around the screen like a screensaver and stays on top of everything else. I also noticed I keep hearing clicking noises from the speakers also. Thank you so much for your help.
 
 

DDS (Ver_2012-11-20.01) - NTFS_x86 
Internet Explorer: 8.0.6001.18702  BrowserJavaVersion: 10.10.2
Run by Owner at 19:17:59 on 2013-02-16
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition  5.1.2600.3.1252.1.1033.18.1471.578 [GMT -5:00]
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AV: avast! Antivirus *Disabled/Updated* {7591DB91-41F0-48A3-B128-1A293FD8233D}
FW: AVG Firewall *Disabled* 
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============== Running Processes ================
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C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\AvastSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\hphmon05.exe
C:\Program Files\HP\Digital Imaging\Unload\hpqcmon.exe
C:\Program Files\VERIZONDM\bin\sprtcmd.exe
C:\Program Files\Verizon\Online Backup & Sharing\Auto Update\OnlineBackup.UpdateSystemTray.exe
C:\Program Files\Verizon\Online Backup & Sharing\vewatch.exe
C:\Program Files\LeapFrog\LeapFrog Connect\Monitor.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\avastUI.exe
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A:Browsers taking forever to load, pages not connecting and a box I can't get rid

Greetings and Welcome to The Forums!!My name is Gringo and I'll be glad to help you with your malware problems.I have put together somethings for you to keep in mind while I am helping you to make things go easier and faster for both of usPlease do not run any tools unless instructed to do so.We ask you to run different tools in a specific order to ensure the malware is completely removed from your machine, and running any additional tools may detect false positives, interfere with our tools, or cause unforeseen damage or system instability.Please do not attach logs or use code boxes, just copy and paste the text.Due to the high volume of logs we receive it helps to receive everything in the same format, and code boxes make the logs very difficult to read. Also, attachments require us to download and open the reports when it is easier to just read the reports in your post.Please read every post completely before doing anything.Pay special attention to the NOTE: lines, these entries identify an individual issue or important step in the cleanup process.Please provide feedback about your experience as we go.A short statement describing how the computer is working helps us understand where to go next, for example: I am still getting redirected, the computer is running normally, etc. Please do not describe the computer as "the same", this requires the extra step of looking back at your previous post.NOTE: At the top of your post, click on the Watch Topic Button, select Immediate N... Read more

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OS: Windows Vista Home Premium
Service Pack 2
Samsung HD161 HJ ATA Device
Processor: Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2140 @ 1.60GHz
Ram: 2GB
System type: 32-bit OS
Avast Free Anti-Virus
Malwarebiytes
SUPERAnti-Spyware
 
Hi,
 
After my wife inadvertantly clicked on an unknown e-mail attachment, I have been expriencing ongoing problems with my PC.  The first issue was that when clicking on IE, the home-page was/is taking upwards of 3 minutes to load.  An error message is being generated stating 'The webpage is not responding - Recover webpage'.  I am finally able to launch the page, and any pages after this launch immediately when clicked.
Further to this, I realised that there was also an issue with Adobe Reader.  Deciding that I would simply re-install it, I uninstalled using 'add/remove' in the Control Panel, but when I attempted to re-install it, no matter how I tried, I just couldn't.  If I choose the 'save' option, then attempt to run the .exe file from the 'Downloads' folder, the .exe file disappears (to the C:\Users\Lee\AppData\Local\temp folder). If I try to launch it from the 'temp' folder, I can see that it's running in the Task Manager, but the install prompt screen never shows.  I have also attempted to install whilst in Safe Mode (with networking), but am then informed that the 'Windows Installer isn't running'.  Attempting to start Windows Installer up in Safe Mode (with networking) generates an error message stating... Read more

A:Problem: Unable to Run .exe Files (plus web pages taking forever to open)

Welcome aboard   Download FixExec.exe to your desktop.Double click on downloaded file to run the fix.When the program has finished, it will generate a log on the desktop called FixExec.exe.Post the log in your next reply.NOTE. If for any reason you're not able to execute FixExec.exe rename it to FixExec.com, FixExec.pif or FixExec.scr.   Download Security Check from here or here and save it to your Desktop.Double-click SecurityCheck.exeFollow the onscreen instructions inside of the black box.A Notepad document should open automatically called checkup.txt; please post the contents of that document.NOTE 1. If one of your security applications (e.g., third-party firewall) requests permission to allow DIG.EXE access the Internet, allow it to do so.NOTE 2 SecurityCheck may produce some false warning(s), so leave the results reading to me. Please download Farbar Service Scanner (FSS) and run it on the computer with the issue.Make sure the following options are checked:Internet ServicesWindows FirewallSystem RestoreSecurity Center/Action CenterWindows UpdateWindows DefenderOther ServicesPress "Scan".It will create a log (FSS.txt) in the same directory the tool is run.Please copy and paste the log to your reply. Please download MiniToolBox and run it.Checkmark following boxes:Report IE Proxy SettingsReport FF Proxy SettingsList content of HostsList IP configurationList Winsock EntriesList last 10 Event Viewer logList Installed ProgramsList Devices (do NOT change any s... Read more

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Only in the morning, is gotten worse gradually, and taking up to 2 hours to finally get firefox to load the yahoo home page. Outlook express6 also won't retreive mail for the longest time. Then, when it finally loads its fine for the day. I have run antimalware, security essentials scans. Nothing helps. Then later in the day, I tried Ccleaner, but to no avail. I tried to disable unnecessary items in startup utility. Unable to tell which items should be fixed when I run a check in ccleaner for the registry. Afraid to try to fix items in there. Wonder why the computer only goes crazy slow in the early morning? Once it starts loading firefox, it is fine and fast for the day. This is killing my shop production in the morning. Can somebody please help?
Its a desktop PC, running xp professional, Intel Core Duo CPU- E4500
2.20 GHZ 3.25 GB of RAM, service pack 3 installed. I tried to boot in safe mode with networking. wouldnt connect to internet either. Anybody got an idea?

A:outlook 6 and firefox taking forever to open in XP

Only use CCleaner for cleanup, not registry "fixing". I would look at a hardware solution. There are many tests available. Possibly zero in on PSU or RAM. Also see what happens if you disable the firewall and AV.

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Hi folks,

having problems with IE and firefox.

It seems that over the past couple of days Windows has had a lot of updates and Firefox has been upgraded also, and since the 17th of Dec '09 I haven't been able to connect to some websites (example being www.uk.msn.com), but others appear to be fine. It's the same problem with the same websites/webpages for both IE and Firefox. But, the weirdest thing though is that the aol browser (which I normally never use as I hate it) appears to be able to connect fine to these sites ( ???? )

My comp is a Dell pc using XP, i have Avast as my antivirus software, and I'm using Windows firewall

I have an account with Aol to connect via broadband to the web

IE is currently version 8.0.6001
Firefox is currently version 3.5.6


Things I have done,
I've checked for spywear & malwear with no unusual results
I've scanned for viruses again with no results
I've cleared cache, cookies and histories for all the browsers
I've done "system restore" to a time before the problems started
I've repaired my broadband connections with the web

I've just tried in IE
'Internet Options' -> 'Connections' -> 'LAN Settings' -> to uncheck the proxy server option but it was already unchecked


I have also done TRACERT in the command window to www.uk.msn.com and these are the results

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

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A:[SOLVED] Some pages not loading in IE &amp; Firefox... been like this for 2-3 days

totally feel like I'm going crazy now, haven't been able to process any payment transactions on any sites, somehow the transaction doesn't seem to be communicating through to the website that it needs to (ie the page freezes) and itunes won't let me buy any tracks (itunes also seems to freeze).... any help anyone?? Is there somewhere else I should be posting?

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MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\WINNT\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\csrss.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\services.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
C:\WINNT\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\LEXPPS.EXE
E:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgwdsvc.exe
E:\Program Files\IObit Security 360\IS360srv.exe
C:\Program Files\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe
E:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgnsx.exe
E:\Program Files\bin\jqs.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\WINNT\system32\regsvc.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\MSTask.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\stisvc.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\WBEM\WinMgmt.exe
E:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgchsvx.exe
E:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgrsx.exe
C:\WINNT\system32\svchost.exe
E:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgcsrvx.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINNT\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINNT\System32\sistray.EXE
C:\WINNT\System32\khooker.exe
C:\WINNT\SOUNDMAN.EXE
E:\PROGRA~1\AVG\AVG9\avgtray.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe
E:\Program Files\IObit Security 360\IS360tray.exe
C:\Program Files\UnH Solutions\IE Privacy Keeper\IEPrivacyKeeper.exe
E:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\YahooMessenger.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Local Settings\Apps\F.lux\flux.exe
C:\Program Files\Linksys\Wireless-G Notebook Adapter with SRX Utility\lcu.exe
C:\WINNT\System32\SCardSvr.exe
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A:Windows 2000 Professional IE and Firefox taking forever load.Please Help!

windows 2k pro is a bit sluggish at time when shutting down or starting up, it comes and goes. i think some malware kind of wrecked it in the past but it still works and i don't want to have to rebuild the drive if i don't have to.
 

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I don't know if I should put this under Firefox or Other browser problems!
I used firefox up until recently when it wouldn't load web pages. I don't get a 404 or missing page or anything, it just stays blank. I've tried all of my bookmarks and nothing will come up.
I told a friend about it and he suggested I download Opera, but it's giving me the same problem.

Internet explorer is the only browser that will work, now, but it's as slow as it was before. I can't even open new windows when I click links, they refuse to load, argh..

Does anyone know how to fix my Firefox?

A:[SOLVED] Mozilla Firefox(and Opera) aren't loading pages.

Hello and welcome to TSF

Have you made an exception for Firefox in your firewall?

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I have tried everything from unplugging router, i have wireless connection. I have scanned with malware bytes, avg, advanced system care. My internet does the same thing in IE and Firefox. I installed google crome and it also does the same in it. I have uninstalled all browers and reinstalled and still didn't help. Also in task manager system running 83,648 kilobytes, it never changes stay there. I have 1gb of memory, usaully it stays around 650, but it is now around 250-300. Even if I use software to free up ram it doesn't increase it much anymore. I reinstalled dsl software and it didn't help either. I left it sitting one day for 2 hours and the page never loaded.I get this error in google crome Error 103 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_ABORTED): Unknown error. Please Help

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.3 (BETA)
Scan saved at 4:10:57 PM, on 12/10/2009
Platform: Windows XP SP3 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18702)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgchsvx.exe
C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgrsx.exe
C:\Program Files\AVG\AVG9\avgcsrvx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv... Read more

A:Web pages not loading, or taking 5 -10 minutes to load.

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I use Win10 on a fast broadband connection (100Mbps) will lowish ping rates.

I notice that more and more web sites are taking a long time to finish loading. They start very fast indeed, but are incomplete and it can take up to a minute before the screen has finished jumping around as it re-renders itself. This appears to be caused by the site pulling-in images from third party sites, especially for adverts.

This has become a real inconvenience. Is this the fault of the website developer? Is there a better way of feeding-in these third part elements? Is there anything I can do my end to improve this?

I am on a 4G connection and someone suggested I change a buffer setting on the router? Anyone comment on that?

A:Web pages taking ages to finish loading

ISP could be throttling your account. "Limiting your download speed."

Run a speed test.
http://www.speedtest.net/

What sites are giving you trouble? P2P?

John

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Hi,
 
I appear to be having trouble with my firefox browser.
 
My operating system is Windows 8.1. I have an Acer Aspire V3-772G which I bought some 18 months ago.
 
System details:
 
Processor: Intel® Core i7-4202MQ 2.2GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.2GHz
Installed Memory (RAM) 16.00 GB DDR3 L Memory
System  type: 64-bit Operating, x64- based processor
 
A few days ago my firefox browser, which for no apparent reason at all, just seemed to slow to a stupendously very slow loading of pages. I had recently just been working on an issue in which I posted a thread regarding whether there was a possible virus/malware after google chrome terminated with the following message from Hitman Pro Alert:
 
 
Attack Intercepted
'Google Chrome 49' has been terminated to prevent execution of malicious code. Please check your computer for malware and software updates
 
As it happened, it appeared to be because of a conflict somewhere in the Google Chrome, Trusteer Rapport and Hitman Pro Alert combination, and so the only way was to change the settings on Hitman Pro Alert as advised and shown in my thread:
 
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/611273/possible-virus-or-malaware/
 
However, there was no malware or virus detected by my own Avast or Malwareware bytes tools, and the tools used as instructed in the thread also showed my system to have none. Also, google chrome works fine, and my computer has not slowed in any way. My fir... Read more

A:Firefox browser issue. Really slow loading pages, and glitchy scrolling of pages

Sorry if I missed it, did you earlier, during the uninstall and reinstall of Firefox, clear Firefox's cache files, not any other files, just the cache files?

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i dont know where exactly to put this since it spans such a massive amount of software and hardware anyways:

I have a Dell Inspiron M1050 with an AMD Triple Core (2.3 Ghz) and an ATI Radeon 4250 HD Integrated.
4 Gb RAM
500Gb HDD
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (obviously)

so, ive had this laptop for over 3 years, i know its past the expiration date. anyways about 3 months ago it started getting the .wav explorer hang issue, where windows 7 tries to read .wav data and cannot support it therefor causing explorer to freeze. this was annoying but i fixed it by editing the Registry so it no longer is allowed to read .wav information.

After doing above however i realized that it was time for my annual Format and Reinstall. i completed that, updated everything, i have my 6 programs i actually keep on the computer and for some reason its incredibly slow. when i go to My Computer it will hang for a sec before loading drive info, and when i click to enter the drive it will freeze every other time. other weird symptoms were the drive pictures, in the left hand side (images for my pictures, music, etc) did not load. programs are taking forever to run, they run poorly randomly. and the worst is that webpages, completely randomly, wont load. itll be stuck in a loading loop. i run google chrome, but it doesnt seem to be software related. i have 15ms ping, 15mb down, 2mb up. so not internet.

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A:Odd Issues: Explorer taking 70k, Chrome not loading pages,system hangs

How close did you come to the perfect install in Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7?

If there is much variance I'd do it over, wiping the HD first with Diskpart Clean Command.

Pay particular attention to how drivers are handled in Win7 as it's not at all like XP.

Once you get a perfect install you can save a Win7 backup image as described in tutorial so you never have to reinstall again.

If problems persist here are Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7
to go over your install. You can trace resource hogs with Troubleshooting with Process Monitor - TechNet Blogs

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hey guys i'm trying to backup some of my files onto dvd's but each disk is taking like 40mins to complete... it's ridiculous..

anybody know why this is occurring?

i'm burning at 14x to avoid any errors..

Dvd burner: Samsung Writemaster SH-W162C [16X Max]
Software: Nero Express 6.3.1.26
 

A:Solved: Dvd's Taking forever to burn...

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Computer Crashed when installing updates and corrupted something.

Inserted Vista Disc and started repair

But its been "repairing disk errors" for 6 hours !!!!

is this normal???
 

A:Solved: Startup Repair Taking Forever

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I have a lot of malware affecting my computer, but I can't find it.
Virus and Spyware scanners don't work, and when I delete suspicious looking processes in the C A D box, they always come back.
I've had the cmd box come up, I've had notifications of new programs being installed that are random, programs that I always used are also being mimicked by these programs.
I don't know why, and I've run out of ideas that normally work.
what should I do?

Also, my sound just stopped working.
 

A:Solved: XP taking forever to do the simplest tasks

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I don't know why but my computers windows taskbar is taking forever to load after boot up. Any particular reasons might cause this problem?
 

A:Solved: Windows Taskbar is taking forever to load

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I have windows 7 home and I use Thunderbird for my email. I love it, but lately it is taking forever to open each time.....it will take easily 30 seconds. Anyone have any ideas what to do?

Thanks!
 

A:Solved: Thunderbird is taking forever to open each time

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My Windows XP sp3 PC taking forever to startup suddenly.

ANyone have any instructions/steps to take to troubleshoot this type of issue?

THanks in advance,

bob
 

A:Solved: Windows XP sp3 PC taking forever to startup suddenly

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My Google Chrome browser is taking FOREVER to load under my Windows Xp OS.

I tested Mozilla and it works just fine.

For Google Chrome I did the following but it did not help:

Follow these steps to change your proxy setting (for Windows):
Click the Tools menu.
Select Options.
Click the Under the Hood tab.
In the "Network" section, click Change proxy settings. This will open the Internet Properties dialog.
Click LAN settings .
Deselect the "Automatically detect settings" checkbox.

Anyone have any other ideas?

-bob
 

A:Solved: Google Chrome taking FOREVER to load

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So I use Microsoft Email for my ISP email account and Thunderbird for my Account I have all my important stuff on, so I get on my computer today and it takes about 5 minutes just to authorize, then it takes about another 10 minutes to get 5 emails, and then it gives me an error message saying it has stopped receiving due to a connection problem or long time of inactivity. So I decide to go to CCleaner and due a daily sweep of useless information when it takes 10 minutes more than it usually does to clean, so I look at what it erased and there were hundreds of little temporary files from internet explorer (somebody else in the household uses it because they don't listen), however I looked at my HJT log to see if anything unusual was there, and it was just the same as every other day.
 

A:Solved: My default email taking forever to load...

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Norton takes forever scanning this

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files
...and i mean like forever.

Unchecking 'Hide protected operating system files' i have found a huge amount of used space there. Properties shows there is
72.0 GB 77,347,987,456 bytes) 1,568,848 Files, 80 Folders

Can i clear this up safely and reclaim any of that space? The biggest file i can see in there tho is 28k.

Thank you.

A:[SOLVED] Massive file taking forever to scan.

Try>Start>All Programs>Accessories>System Tools>Disc Cleanup. See if time shortens. Don't mess with protected files.

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Frequently I get redirected when I search something on google/yahoo or when I click on a link I want to go to. Also, webpages are taking a long time to load and my laptop seems to be generally slowing down since I got this virus. I have no idea what to do at the moment. Hopefully you can help me. Here is a the Hijackthis report

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.4
Scan saved at 14:04:15, on 09/11/2010
Platform: Windows Vista SP2 (WinNT 6.00.1906)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18975)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\Windows\system32\taskeng.exe
C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe
C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MSASCui.exe
C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe
C:\Program Files\NewTech Infosystems\NTI Backup Now 5\BkupTray.exe
C:\Program Files\Acer Arcade Deluxe\Acer Arcade Deluxe\ArcadeDeluxeAgent.exe
C:\Program Files\Acer Arcade Deluxe\Acer Arcade Deluxe\Kernel\CLML\CLMLSvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Acer Arcade Deluxe\PlayMovie\PMVService.exe
C:\Windows\System32\igfxtray.exe
C:\Windows\System32\hkcmd.exe
C:\Windows\System32\igfxpers.exe
C:\Windows\RtHDVCpl.exe
C:\Windows\PLFSetI.exe
C:\Program Files\Acer\Empowering Technology\eDataSecurity\x86\eDSLoader.exe
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A:Yahoo/Google/Firefox Search Redirects + web pages taking very long to load

Hi,Welcome to Bleeping Computer. My name is m0le and I will be helping you with your log.Please subscribe to this topic, if you haven't already. You can subscribe by clicking the Options box to the right of your topic title and selecting Track This Topic.

Please avoid installing/uninstalling or updating any programs and attempting any unsupervised fixes or scans. This can make helping you impossible.

Please reply to this post so I know you are there.The forum is busy and we need to have replies as soon as possible. If I haven't had a reply after 3 days I will bump the topic and if you do not reply by the following day after that then I will close the topic.Once I receive a reply then I will return with your first instructions.Thanks

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Suddenly, about two weeks ago Firefox 10 stopped loading web pages. The "connecting" circle keeps spinning and absolutely nothing happens. I love Firefox and have to say that this is one of the most bizarre computing frustrations I've ever experienced. I have Thunderbird email and may have found a temporary way around it: I right click on "Reload tab" on the website tab I'm trying to access. I have to do it several times for it to connect to the site. I uninstalled FF 10 and reinstalled 9 to see if the problem persisted: it does.
I actually had to use Internet Explorer (!) a few times to be able to access the various websites, and I downloaded Chrome as a temporary stop-gap measure in case FF doesn't work at all. Although I don't want to use any browser but Firefox, this malfunctioning is getting me down a lot; I might be going to Chrome permanently. What can be causing this vexing problem of web pages not loading? [I have Windows 7 Profession 32 bit SP1] Thanks for your ideas. ec

A:Firefox pages not loading

First thing to check is your firewall:

Firewalls - MozillaZine Knowledge Base

Next step:

Standard diagnostic - Firefox - MozillaZine Knowledge Base

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First and foremost, a BIG thank you to anyone who helps me, as I know this is a freee service and there are people out there charging good money for this exact same thing! So, yesterday while on the internet (IE) I suddenly noticed that the pages stopped loading and instead were acting as if my connection had given out. This was not the case as my connecton was fine, and I eventually found that Firefox began doing the same thing after a few hours. I realized it wasn't the Firewall either since it did the same when that was disabled. This is when I became a little suspicious and ran MBAM, which couldn't update because of some error that had to do with "user not allowing to connect to internet" or something like that. That was when I realized that it's a likely virus. I still ran MBAM however and even Avast, but neither found anything. Also, I am running Windows XP and this is a desktop computer (I'm posting from a laptop now).

Here is my DDS log:

DDS (Ver_2012-11-07.01) - NTFS_x86
Internet Explorer: 8.0.vu6001.18702 BrowserJavaVersion: 1.6.0_37
Run by Jonathan at 10:11:21 on 2012-11-10
#Option MBR scan is disabled.
Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600.3.1252.1.1033.18.2047.1512 [GMT -5:00]
.
AV: avast! Antivirus *Enabled/Updated* {7591DB91-41F0-48A3-B128-1A293FD8233D}
FW: avast! Antivirus *Disabled*
.
============== Running Processes ================
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C:\Program Files\Ahead\InCD\InCDsrv.exe
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A:Web Pages Not Loading In IE & Firefox

Hi,Welcome to Bleeping Computer. My name is m0le and I will be helping you with your log.Please subscribe to this topic, if you haven't already. Click the Watch This Topic button at the top on the right.

Please avoid installing/uninstalling or updating any programs and attempting any unsupervised fixes or scans. This can make helping you impossible.

Please reply to this post so I know you are there.The forum is busy and we need to have replies as soon as possible. If I haven't had a reply after 3 days I will bump the topic and if you do not reply by the following day after that then I will close the topic.Once I receive a reply then I will return with your first instructions.Thanks

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hello, i been having this problem for over a month where i can't access certain sites such as "www.classmates.com". I get an "page cannot be displayed in internet explorer, and in firefox i get an "connection refused" error. i don't know to try anymore, somebody told me that i could be a automatic update from microsoft that is causing the problem, all help is much appreciated. thank you

edit: also some links and such that require java aren't running, my system says that java is fine on my pc, i don't understand.

A:IE and firefox not loading certain web pages

Hey
Go to Tools menu, select Internet Options..., and click the
Security tab.
In Restricted Site check and see if the URL that you can't get to are
in there.
If so, remove them and try again...
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I downloaded Firefox last night as I've heard great things about it, particularly after my battle with Begin2Search. However, it's not loading pages- at least not with any workable speed. I'm able to get into my yahoo mail okay, but any other pages I've tried to reach with it- including this one- take so excruciatingly long to load that I end up using IE anyway. I have SBC DSL and I think it's something in my computer that tends for pages to load slowly anyway (sometimes have to hit refresh multiple times) but IE will at least load the pages after a few refreshes. Firefox doesn't seem to respond at all.

Is there any way to fix this or do I just concede and reset IE as my primary browser? :-/ Also if anyone has any ideas about the slow page loading in general I'd be very happy- it's quite annoying (although downloads work great, so I don't think it's a bandwidth issue..we do have a router if that makes any difference).

Thanks!
 

A:Firefox 1.0.1 not loading pages

The router should makes thinks run faster, does it have the modem built in or as a seperate external device. I would check all the connection settings for firefox, it is posssible if this is not set correcct speeds can be affected.

Can you try a ping on your router. You would need its local IP address though. You should be able to get this from its web interface. When you have the IP go "START" and "Run" type "cmd" then "ping XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX". If you get a really high time then you know there is a problem with you connection to the router

What kind of router is it, how is it linked to the pc's
 

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I got the automatic update message yesterday, closed FF, and when I re-opened it it updated itself. Result: NO pages load. No errors, says "Done", and just plain blank. Error Console shows nothing. All pages load fine in IE. Nothing works, including Google.com. I renamed the old FF, re-installed a fresh copy downloaded from getfirefox.com, no help. I un-installed FF, then re-installed the fresh copy, still no help. Any ideas?

PS: I have tried FF's "Safe Mode", no help.

PPS: I downloaded Netscape 8.x and it works fine...

(Initially posted in "Other Browsers" - oops, my bad...)

A:Firefox 2.0.0.4 (new) not loading ANY pages

Create a new profile and try again.

To start the Profile Manager:
Close Firefox completely, Start-> Run-> type
firefox -p

Firefox Help: How To Manage Profiles
http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile#new

Don't choose a profile folder, let the profile manager put the new profile in the default location!

Restoring your browsing data

Windows XP: Show Hidden Program or System Files

Locate your profile folder

Profile Folder - MozillaZine Knowledge Base

Backing up your profile

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I just got windows vista and recently my firefox partially stopped working. I can access some sites such as the main google page and wikipedia. But I cannot access yahoo or facebook. Once I type something into the searchbar on google and hit enter, it won't show the next page. I have Norton 360 and I have configured the settings to allow firefox to run but I still get the same problem. I don't know what to do and I am fresh out of ideas. Any Help?

A:Firefox not loading certain pages...

Brotherhood77,

It sound like you have content or keyword filtering enabled in Norton 360 that's blocking access to certain websites based on keywords. Go into Norton 360 and turn off content blocking and/or parental controls. See if this helps.

- John

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My hoimepage is set to Google. When I open the browser, it looks like Google is loading, then in the top tab, it looks like it loads again. This happens on some other Web sites, also. I re-set Firefox, but the problem continues. I do not have any add-ons or extensions in Firefox. I also tried setting the homepage to Yahoo, but this never seems to stop loading - the loading page wheel just keeps spinning. I have Windows 7 - 64 bit for the OS and have MSE, MalwareBytes, SuperAntiSpyWare and Spyware Blaster installed which I run every day (except Blaster which doesn't have a scanning feature). They don't find any issues, except SuperAntiSpyware which finds anywhere from 30 to 90 "threats" when I run it. What's the problem? Any "easy" fix?

A:Pages loading twice with Firefox

Reset Firefox to factory defaults. 
 
Scan the entire computer with Malwarebytes in Safe Mode (after you updated the program)
 
Go from there.

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Im using a dell XPS media edition laptop, and when i use firefox and try to acces bleepingcomputer, it comes back with an error of "cant establish connection" yet all other pages work fine. Sometimes other pages that are computer help related dont open as well. This led me to use IE but same thing happens.

A:Firefox not loading certain pages.

This is related to your infection here: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/232089/infected-with-malware/To avoid confusion, I am closing this topic.Orange Blossom

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I am using a MacBook Pro. My firefox had randomly stopped loading pages. I am connected to wifi internet and can access pages on google chrome. What can I do?

A:FireFox not loading pages...

Not alot of info on this problem was given to better determine the problem.

But Firefox is not really a "Mission Critical program" have you tried just re-installing it yet?

Its possible a program setting is preventing it from accessing web pages or a bad addon.

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It is slower than dial up!!!!!!!!!! Argggggggggggg!!!
I have ran Super anti spyware then rebooted it found nothing
I have ran Spybot.It found a few things I corrected them,rebooted and it is still running slow.
I ran ATF cleaner then rebooted.
I have run AVG antivirus ^& it was clean
I ran Kaspersky and it was clean
It does sound like the computer is always running
Plus there are certain people in my house that really likes to visit sites he shouldnt so maybe there was something that has come in through there.I dont really know yet how that all works but it probably has something to do with it???.
Is there a web page that educates us to the hows and whys of how we get crap on our computers from porn sites?? And how to avoid it other than putting a cyber sitter or something of the likes.Unfortunately it is not children visiting these sites so its hard to tell a grown up no, or restrict his computer.LOL!!

I have pasted a HJT log .Could someone please read it and see if there seems to be a problem.
Thanks so much.

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 8:18:01 PM, on 8/16/2007
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
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A:Solved: Computer is taking forever to open stuff & then it comes up error page

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Hi

I am having a problem with Firefox. I have only just got a brand new pc with Vista 64 bit OS, download most if not all of the updates and installed Firefox. When I'm using Firefox everything seems fine and then all of a sudden it will stop. I could browse plenty of pages and then the next time I try and load one it does nothing, just a white screen. There are no error messages and if I close it and try and re-open it I then get an error message saying Firefox is already open, please close the current one first (or something along those lines). I press Ctrl, Alt + Del and go to processes and there is Firefox, but I click to end the process and nothing happens. Even to restart my pc is a lenghty process. Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

Many thanks
 

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Hi, I'm getting a problem with Firefox where it won't load pages completely, sometimes if I go on Facebook and there's more images than usual in my news feed some of them will not load completely or will not load at all and at the bottom it says "Done". Half the time when I'm loading images alone (Right click: View Image) and the image is a medium to large sized photograph it will stop loading and I'll get the "The connection was reset" message, this is more recent and it used to only happen when I tried to load several images at once.

This is driving me nuts as I download desktop sized PNGs on a regular basis, also I should mention that I'm on Dial-Up and this problem seems to be time based as it doesn't happen when I'm freeloading off my friend's Broadband.

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I've been wrestling with this problem a while now and none of the solutions I've found so far has worked.
I'm having problems with IE 11 & Firefox 27.0 displaying web pages properly. I get tons of "This page can't be displayed", "The website declined to show this page" and additionally in Firefox only - "The connection was reset". but I can refresh the page and it loads correctly. I'm up-to-date as far as Windows Update & Flash Player are concerned.

Also, IE plays videos on youtube with no problem but can't play them on vevo. Interestingly, I added vevo to IE 11's compatibility view and got a popup saying "Looks like you're using a version of Internet Explorer that we no longer support. Please upgrade to Internet Explorer 10 or later, or try using a different browser, and come back to VEVO.com to start watching new and classic videos".

Firefox plays videos on both youtube and vevo without problems.

Anyone have any ideas on what's going on?

Thanks,
t2380

A:Web pages not loading properly in IE & Firefox

Hi welcome to SevenForums,
Update your browser is common for a website that doesn't recognize comp-view when it's being used by Internet explorer,
Press the F12 key when you get the popup message and verify what is being used,
For ie9-10 Click Browser mode and check ie10 if not checked.
You might see this to get rid of what ever comp-view lists that exist on your machine,
This applies to All versions of ie,
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/33571-google-search-display-issue-internet-explorer-11-fix.html

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I am using windows XP and have IE and firefox and have noticed that some pics aren't displayed in firefox on some pages yet I don't have the same problem with IE.

Can someone point me in the right direction?

I have tried looking at file types and settings in firefox re enabling javascript

Is there something I haven't thought of?

Cheers,

A:Firefox Pages Not Loading Properly

Can you give an example of a website that doesn't appear right? What addons do you have installed in FF? I know of at least two that will have this effect on pages (by design). They are Adblock Plus and NoScript.

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Hi, I've been having a problem for over a month now. My internet browsers will not load certain pages, or if they do they will only load the background color or border. Since this problem has begun such sites as Filefront.com or IGN.com have not ben able to load at all. Other sites will load most of the time but occasionally the page will lock up and i can only access it after hitting refresh 200 times. When the browser will not load the page at all, closing the window or ending the process will cause windows to crash and reboot, without fail. I have been doing endless scans for rootkits and viruses/spyware, to no avail. I know that a while ago I had the Trojan.Zlob virus, but that seems to be taken care of with the more than 10 different types of scans i have been running. I know IE is buggy but this also happens to Firefox and I need to use IE to access my college account. I tried adjusting the MTU, but that didn't work. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

A:Ie6 And Firefox Will Stop Loading Pages

Is your isp Virgin? Im having the same problems with access to different sites. Sometimes this one wont load then all of a sudden it will. Ive tried all virus scans etc but cant find anything. I think its something to do with the isp because people i know with other isp's can access the same sites straight away with no problems what so ever.

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Within the last month a co-worker's laptop suddenly began to experience page loading problems w/ IE6. Seems that after a few minutes of activity online the browser would suddenly stop loading webpages. Didn't matter what websites you had been to, which browser you were using, or how you accessed the web. You can even be downloading a file and the download will stop. To me it seems like there is something timing out or some cache or other file is getting "full", causing pages to stop loading.

Here is the setup:

HP/Compaq nc6120
WinXP SP-2 (all updates installed)
IE6, IE7, FireFox
Verizon aircard, SBC dsl

System originally had IE6 and worked perfectly for 6 months. About a month ago when browsing for about 5 minutes or so (with no problems), the browser would suddenly stop loading webpages, but the IE would not freeze. Pages that were already cached could be reloaded, but if there was info on the page that needed to be refreshed, the unable to load page error would appear. I noticed the progress bar would go 1 mark, then stop, almost as if the connection was lost. Shutting down all IE6 windows and opening a new one made no difference. Breaking the ISP connection and signing back on did not solve the problem either. Only way to get IE to access webpages again was to completely reboot and sign back onto the provider. After it runs for 5 minutes or so, it starts all over. Doesn't matter if you are on DSL or the aircard or which browser you were using.

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A:web pages stop loading - IE6, IE7, FireFox

Did anybody change or install anything that might have caused this
 

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