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Can I add a NVMe - M.2 SSD to Thinkpad x1 Extreme?

Q: Can I add a NVMe - M.2 SSD to Thinkpad x1 Extreme?

I have a Thinkpad X1 Extreme (20MFX002US) on order. It has one of the two M.2 SSD bays not used. I was hoping I could add a second drive. They are expensive so I thought I'd better check first to see if it will work in this machine before I order it. I am NOT doing RAID with the second drive. I just want the machine to recognize it for added storage. This is running Windows 10. Here is the drive I was considering:Samsung 970 PRO Series - 1TB PCIe NVMe - M.2

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Hi,  According to the specifications sheet, X1 Extreme supports both Sata and Nvme Ssd's. https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad%20X1%20Extreme/ThinkPad_X1_Extreme_Platfo... My machine comes with an Nvme Ssd. It would be OK to add an additional Sata Ssd in the free slot, right? And use both. (Just checking, before I buy).  Thanks!Adrian

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Dear support, I just received my new laptop recently and I would like to know how to perform a secure erase (change of encryption key) on the NVme SSD that came with the laptop. A secure erase should instruct the SSD to change the encryption key stored on the SSD itself, and should be the best way to perform a full format of the data on the disk. My preferred way to perform the Secure Erase would have been using the Bios option "Security -> Disk Encryption HDD" [R1]. However, this option was not available on my BIOS, neither on the pre-installed version (1.08) nor in the newest version (1.19). Therefore I followed the suggested option to try to activate this option in the BIOS [R2]. Afterwards the "Security -> Disk Encryption HDD" was still not visible on my BIOS menus. I have also tried creating an USB with the Lenovo's DrvErase [R3] software. In this case I got a message from the software stating that my system or BIOS are not compatoble with DrvErase. Using Linux, it is possible to instruct the disk to perform a secure erase by changing the encryption key [R4]. I have done this in the past and it worked. However, I am hesitant to follow this procedure on a new (and expensive) laptop. Therefore, I woule like to ask: Q1) What is the method suggested by Lenovo to perform a Secure Erase on X1 Extreme (type: 20MG) or P1 laptops?Note: from [R5] and [R6], I believe that P1 laptops are also affected Q2) If I go through and instruct the SSD disk ... Read more

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See subject.  Ever since the BIOS upgrade, the dock no longer crashes.  Two days running now with no problems; prior to the upgrade it would crash routinely when connecting via USB-C.  I had to employ the unsavoury workaround of connecting the laptop to a charger and connecting it to the dock via the USB-A port using the USB-A to USB-C adaptor supplied.  Now I'm connecting via USB-C cable only. In fact, I'd given up on using the dock at all and had it just sitting there.  I decided to give it another go after reading that BIOS v1.19 fixed instances of BSODs occuring when connected to an external monitor (which I did experience now and again when connecting to an external monitor via HDMI i.e. not via dock).    Dock Type : 40AFX1E Type : 20MF 

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I'm having issues installing linux on my second NVMe drive because of this bug: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/128422/one-of-two-identical-m2-nvme-drives-disabling-due-t... This is a known issue with Intel's firmware and they have issued an update:https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28320/Known-Issue-Intel-SSD-760p-Pro-7600p-Series-SubNQN-C... However, the NVMe Firmware Update Utility seems to not include this most recent version. Is there any timetable for when this will be merged in to Lenovo's firmware? I've read that if the drive comes from an OEM like Lenovo we should wait until they issue their own firmware -Gabe 

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Hello, I've been using Thinkpad X1 Extreme for the past 1.5 months. And now speakers(or only right one I believe) started having an issue with crackled/noise sound on high frequencies. It's almost unusable to listen something with speakers because of how painfull it to the ears.  Is there anything possible to do with it to fix it? Or replace internal speaker. Recording with sound:https://www.dropbox.com/s/tjqzczipq45xyh1/video_2019-07-29_15-03-27.mp4?dl=0

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In the promotion video, they showed a 4TB drive inside the machine. As I know, the max size of NVMe SSD is 2TB right now. How many NVMe SSD can one put inside the machine?

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HiI purchased my ThinkPad T470P 10 days ago. It has 1TB HDD (5400rpm) preinstalled so I want to replace it with SSD.Is my ThinkPad capable of using the full potential of NVME SSD or I just need to buy a SATA3 SSD?I know Lenovo sells these machines with NVME SSDs preinstalled but do they use the same port as my HDD is using right now? What is the interface that my HDD is using right now?Regards

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Hi, I am planning to upgrade my Lenovo V330-14IKB. What is the maximum RAM capacity could I add for it? What would be the best option for me?

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 Dear All, Which brand or exact model of NVMe SSD Lenovo recommend to upgrade Thinkpad E570

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Hi there everyone! I've just bought a Thinkpad L380 and still waiting it to be shipped. For several reasons i need it to be equipped with a third party SSD, so i chose the (cheaper) 128gb SSD configuration.After i've placed the order I've started wondering if the M.2 SATA3 configuration i've choose could mean that the laptop i've ordered could not support NVMe.Could someone please tell me that the SATA3 choice affects only the SSD part and that i'll be able to mount correctly a M.2 SSD NVMe? thanks  

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It's interesting to see that Lenovo updated their storage test and PCI Express test programs for Thinkpad X1 Carbon 3rd gen on 4/11/2016 including changes of "ADD: Storage - NVMe". Hope that is a sign for future NVMe SSD support.

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I'm looking at buying a new Lenovo P50 with a SSD configuration.  I see an option for a "1TB SSD PCIe-NVMe" which came out only a few days ago ...does anybody here know the specs of that drive in terms of read/write speeds (megabytes per second)?  



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A:"1TB SSD PCIe-NVMe" specifications for Thinkpad P5...

That's Samsung 1T PM961 which becomes available in OEM since last december. Read and write speeds are faster than the current SM961 and 950 Pro.

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I recently updated to the new bios, 1.30, that adds RAID support for the Thinkpad P50.My P50 came with 2x pcie nvme 512gb m.2 drives. (I think they ship with the sm951, but not 100% sure) Upon activating raid in the bios, I can select "M.2 SSD" as the mode, and successfuly create a raid volume from the 2 drives. The new raid volume shows up in the boot manager and appears to be healthy. Macrium Reflect can even see and clone to the Raid volume. However the installer for Windows 7, 8, or 10 cannot see the Raid volume. (Using a usb drive since i opted out of the cd drive). I assumed this was a driver issue and proceeded to download basically every Intel RST driver I could find including the 3 on the Lenovo driver website and all the below:64bit Intel RSTe AHCI & RAID drivers v15.2.0.100864bit Intel RSTe AHCI & RAID drivers v14.8.12.1059 WHQL64bit Intel RST AHCI & RAID driver v11.2.0.1006 WHQL64bit Intel NVMe Windows Driver v1.7.0.1002 WHQL64bit Intel RSTe NVMe drivers v4.5.0.2122 WHQL for Win8-10 x64RSTe_4.5.0.2123RSTe NVMe 4.5.0.2125intel_rst_14.8.1.1043intel_rst_14.8.0.1042Universal 64bit Intel RST Software v15.0.2.1044Universal 64bit Intel RST Software v14.8.12.1059 Even after trying every single one of these, I still can't get Windows to see the raid volume on install. I tried turning on and off secure boot, and CSM, but made no difference. There's really not many options provided in the Lenovo bios. I've done a normal raid set... Read more

A:Thinkpad P50 - NVMe M.2 Raid 0 - Can't install win...

Just to add a bit more, I do have premium support and was on the phone with 6 different people for 2 hours, none of which could really help or understand what was going on. In fact several didn't even know what Raid was and needed help spelling it. Below are the ticket numbers to keep everything together.Ticket #'s:402NCL7402NC9M402NC77

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Hello, I need to add a "Samsung 960 PRO Series - 1TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD" on my Thinkpad. What is the P/N I need to install it? I think is the tray to insert the disc. THINKPAD P51 SIGNATURE EDITION - Intel Core i7 - 7700 HQ - CPU @2.80 GHz - 16 GB - Windows 10 - 64 bits

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Hello I have already tried yo add an Samsung 970 Evo (NVMe) but is failed with error 2104. When I talked with helpdesk on Lenovo they told me that wasn“t compatible. I wonder if the Samsung 970 Evo Pro. Or should I use a older model for example Samsung 960 Evo Pro.

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Hello, I think this is a Intel RST driver issue. When I'm trying to install Ubuntu 18.04 on a BIOS created RAID-0 array with two NVMe M.2, the installation cannot find the raid array. When using two SATA drives - it works flawlessly. Is there a way to solve this issue? Any driver I can update in the Ubuntu installation? Please help! 

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Hello, I will get a new laptop ThinkPad L570 from my company. It will have a standard SATA3 256GB SSD installed.I want to upgrade the laptop and want to install a "Samsung 960 EVO MZ-V6E1T0BW NVMe SSD (1TB)". Question 1: How does the SATA connector of the 2,5'' main storage tray looks like? Is it a SATA Express (SATAe) connector? Does it look like this?Does the SATA Express connector look like this? With this  nose/nibble in the middle?Question 2: Will it be possible to run a Samsung 960 EVO NVMe SSD 1TB in the L570? I know it will not have the full speed, because the L570 only provides 2 lanes PCIe 3.0, but this would be okay for me. Question 3: Where can I get the Lenovo adapter/converter/tray (SATA Express to M.2 NVMe), if this adapter was missing in my delivered L570, because there was installed only a standard 2,5'' SATA SSD? I searched the whole internet for it, no luck. Question 4: DeLock has some adpaters for M.2/NVMe (http://www.delock.de/produkte/1097_SATA-Express/62786/merkmale.html?setLanguage=en), but I don't know if the adapter would fit into the L570. There is a little "block" (red arrows in the below picture) in the middle of the adapter connector which doesn't fit to the connector image from the top. And furthermore this Delock adapter is 9,5mm in height instead of 7mm:This litle "block" will not fit into the  SATA Express connector of the L570, or?Can I use this DeLock adapter in my L570 and will the Samsung 860 EVO run via... Read more

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Hello Lenovo-Community, I have bought a new Lenovo P51 (20HJS0KJ00) which came originally with one HDD (500GB) and 8GB RAM.The Company where I bought the ThinkPad upgraded it additionally with a M.2 NVMe (Samsung PM961 Lenovo OEM) SSD + 8 GB RAM.When I get the P51 it was completely blank, no OS. For installation purposes, I removed the HDD. The only installed and from BIOS recognized Drive is the SSD (except Boot-USB). Now I am trying a bunch of time to install Win10 on this Notebook without any success.I am able to boot it with an USB Drive (MBR Partitioning, Win10.iso, created with Rufus) - when I select to install the OS on the SSD, I get:  Windows can't be installed on this drive (Show details)Windows cannot be installed on this disk. This computer's hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure that the disk's controller is enabled in the BIOS menu. I've already read and followed these steps - without success: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/Can-t-install-Windows-10-on-T460s-with-S... I am not able to boot with an USB Drive (GPT, FAT32, created with Rufus) - it is not shown as Bootable Device.  BIOS (v. 1.05) is in Default Mode (F9), also it does not work when I select UEFI only, Both. Secure Boot is off. I did cleared the SSD with Diskpart, it's totally blank.  Furthermore I tried to install Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, without success. There was sth like the Grub Bo... Read more

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I ordered my P51 with a spin disk and I would like to buy  a  NVMe M2 SSD of 256gb and  another  MVMe M2 of 1tb.  Is it possible to installal NVMe M2 with differets sizes in P51.

A:Could I install two NVMe M2 with different capacity sizes in Thinkpad P51?

Yes, as long as you're not running raid.

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Planning to upgrade the T470 with an SSD and trying to decide between  Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OAJ412U  For an extra $86, I could get this drive, adapter and cable:Samsung 960 EVO Series - 250GB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V6E250BW)https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-EVO-Internal-MZ-V6E250BW/dp/B01LYFKX41 https://lenovo.encompass.com/item/11093685/Lenovo/01AX994/Ct470_Adapter_Hdd_Asm_Brackethttps://lenovo.encompass.com/item/11093086/Lenovo/00UR496/Cable_M.2_Ssd Apparently, the 960 EVO would give me about 2 to 3 times faster performance than the SATA SSD. Which one would you guys choose if it were you considering the usage is mainly coding and watching videos? Any insights would be great. Thank you. 

A:SATA or PCIe NVMe SSD for Thinkpad T470?

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Which one would you guys choose if it were you considering the usage is mainly coding and watching videos? Any insights would be great. Thank you. 

That depends.  Are we spending your money or mine?
 
Given your use case I'd probably use the extra $ to go with a 500GB 2.5" SSD.  Then again, I'm a spec snob and might not be able to resist the NVMe drive.
 
As you've already figured out, the 470 only uses 2 PCIe lanes so that limits the NVMe SSD to something like 1700MB/sec.  The SATA unit would be more like 500MB/sec or so.  In practice, you'd probably never notice a difference.
 
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I am attempting to upgrade my L570 with the subject M.2 drive.  I have the tray and cable necessary.  When I put it all together, no hard drive shows up in the computer.  Tech support won't help since the 960 EVO isn't on the Lenovo parts list.  The support agent didn't say they were incompatible, but he did intimate that.  Any ideas on how to make this work?

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My X1 Yoga has a SAMSUNG MZVPV256 SSD Tried to install the NVMe firmware update from here: http://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/products/Laptops-and-netbooks/ThinkPad-X-Series-laptops/ThinkPad-X1-... It boots Linux however at some point it can't find the folder.When Windows started again, it ran FWLINBRDG automatically. This one shows the following error: 

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I recently bought ThinkPad P52S with following storage option:1TB Hard Disk Drive, 5400rpm, 2.5", SATA3  and realized that I need to change this one for  256 GB Solid State Drive, PCIe NVMe M.2 drive I am affraid even this laptop supports both models it is not easy to make this upgrade. Actually, I would like to know which parts I need to order from lenovo in odred to replace old SATA HDD with new one M.2 PCIe NVMe drive (I already have one). I tried to do it using Support - Parts & Accesories - schematic view TP_T580_P52s_Main_FRUs Components on the page: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-p-series-laptops/thinkpad-... but, honestly I could not relize what I should order.  I guess that I need one internal cable, and metalic mount "box" (size similar/same to existing SATA HDD) which contains 2 connectors (one for cable which connects mainboard and "box" (I am not sure does existing cable is good), and other connector where I should inserd M.2 PCIe SSD.I would appreciate if someone can advice which part numbers i need to purchase in order to make feasible usage of the M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD instead of aforementioned SATAIII HDD. Thanks in advance to all of you! 

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Hi,
I'm thinking of upgrading my stock SSD to https://www3.lenovo.com/gb/en/accessories-and-monitors/memory-and-storage/storage/HDD-BO-ThinkPad-M-....
Will it work ? 
Will it be faster than the stock 256GB one ? 
Will it void the warranty ? 
 
Moderator note: subject edited to correct model.  Was: Will 4XB0N10300 (512 GB NVMe M.2 SSD) work on my ThinkPad Yoga y730 (20JJS0A40R) ?

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I have thinkpad P71. This notebook has two nvme slots.I would like enable and disable nvme memory or HDD storage from Bios options.See another similar topic request.https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile/P50-P70-feature-request-Disable-Enable-S...This feature is extremely useful for professional applications.Is it possible to do? Could you help me asap?Please help with any ideas and solutions if you have. Thanks.

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Brand A485 laptop does not detect brand new Toshiba RC100 (2242) in wwan slot. And from what I have read in psref it should be supported.

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Hi guys,I just bought the T580 with their cheapest SATA HDD so that I can upgrade myself, but I realise that there's not an M.2 slot available for the upgrade drive (Samsung 960 Pro).I did a little bit of research, and I found these FRU's:01YR457    Tachi-2(20L9/20LA/20LB/20LC) M.2 Adapter ASM for Tachi,TC-201YR466    Tachi-2(20L9/20LA/20LB/20LC) M.2 Adapter Cable,TC-2I can't find a place where to source these. Can anybody point me in the right direction?Thank you in advance.

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Is Samsung 970 EVO Plus Series - 1TB PCIe NVMe - M.2  compatible with Thinkpad E570, right now I have Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB 2.5 Inch SATA III installedlink:https://smile.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S1T0B/dp/B07MFZY2F2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3QJ2E5IYA76X9...

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Hi, I am planing to buy a thinkpad X280 with the cheapest storage selection, and then upgrade SSD myself.The cheapest storage option for X280 is 128GB SSD SATA.Will I be able to upgrade SSD by simply replacing it with a larger and faster SSD? For example 1TB SSD PCIe-NVME? In my understanding that M.2 SATA and M.2 PCIe-NVME are different:M.2 SATA connects to SATA bus and using AHCI standard.M.2 PCIe-NVME connects to PICe bus and using NVME standard. This can get much faster speed than M.2 SATA SSD. So, it seems that if I buy X280 with 128GB SSD SATA selection, I may not be able to upgrade it to any PCIe-NVME SSD.Please, can someone confirm this? Regards,Shuo

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Hi,I'm thinking of upgrading my stock SSD to https://www3.lenovo.com/gb/en/accessories-and-monitors/memory-and-storage/storage/HDD-BO-ThinkPad-M-....Will it work ? Will it be faster than the stock 256GB one ? Will it void the warranty ? 

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All, How many PCIe lanes for the internal NVMe M2 slot, that used the 2.4 HDD/SDD enclosure, has and what is the max. transfer speed.What to know if it worth while to install a Samsung EVO 970 or PRO 970 and fully utilize their speed. Thanks

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Hello! Does anyone know if the ThinkPad 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD, whose part number is 4XB0N71413 and which can be found in the following link: https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories-and-monitors/memory-and-storage/storage/HDD-BO-TP-1TB-M-2-... is TCG OPAL compliant and if it supports being formatted with 4kb sector size. Thanks in advance.

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This problem is back. As mentioned in this thread attempting to install via Windows 10 via a USB drive does not see the NVMe M.2 sticks (I have two 1 TB sticks that came with my P70 from Lenovo). I did an install back around on Nov. 29, 2016 and it worked back then using the USB drive + drivers I left on the stick. Since then I've kept my machine current so I'm not sure what's changed (BIOS did get updated0. My P70 is a model 20ERCTO1WW.BIOS is N1DET83W 2.12 Can we get updated drivers ASAP Lenovo?Thanks!   

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A greeting to the community.Can someone tell me if the Samsung 970 Pro m.2 PCIe NVMe 1 Tb SSD to be installed on the second slot is compatible with X1 Extreme?I ask because a Samsung P951 SSD caused a blue screen and did not start the PCThank you all

A:Installing a second SSD on The ThinkPad X1 Extreme

docet,I assume the BSOD issue could be caused by RAID settings. In this case both drives must be the same type and have the same capacity.

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I purchased an X1 Extreme (4K) a few months ago. I have run into a few issues and was hoping I could get some advice. For reference, I have observed these issues across multiple different Windows versions, GeForce driver versions, and Lenovo BiOS versions. I am happy to answer any follow-up questions in the comments. 1.When I have hybrid graphics enabled, I have observed significant stutter when scrolling in applications such as Google Chrome, Spotify, and more, especially when opening PDFs in Chrome. Turning off hybrid graphics resolves fixes this, but I was wondering if there was another option I had other than compromising my battery life by disabling hybrid graphics.2.When I keep the TrackPoint enabled, it occasionally begins moving the cursor on its own and keeps going for a few seconds, with no apparent way to regain control until it stops. While I can fix this by just turning off the TrackPoint, I enjoy using it and would like to know if there is a different solution to this issue. Thank you in advance!

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I recently purchased a X1 Extreme and was hoping for plug and play eGPU via thunderbolt 3. However, the Akitio Node (+ 1080 ti) does not even power on when I connect the thunderbolt 3 cable to the port. Both the Lenovo Vantage  + Windows Update states my firmware + drivers are up to date. 

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On my new Thinkpad X1 Extreme, I can't activate Bitlocker "automatic mode" as it should be with Windows 10 Pro 1809.I have a fully operational TPM 2.0: But as shown in system information, it's due to "Un-allowed DMA capable bus/devices(s) detected": With Vantage, I made a full update of the system, so I belive BIOS and everything is up to date. Is there a way to correct what Windows thinks is a DMA threat ? Somethink else to update ? Thank you. 

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Just a quick question I have looked at the specs of the new X1 Extreme Would like to know if it is fitted with a WWAN 4G LTE card? X1 carbon has always been a business laptop , and if the X1 Xxtreme doe not have the WWAN facility it kinda defeats the purpose of a versilte extreme on  the go  business laptop.? Any idea>  

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Getting all the possible BSOD errors on my NEW (replaced) X1 Extreme. That's disgusting considering I've paid around £3000 for the top configuration. I had this as a replacement because the previous one had screen issues, WiFi card non working etc  I'm totally sending this in for refund this time and I'm probably going for a different brand this time!

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I just got my new Thinkpad in and wanted to install a second drive with Linux on it.  The bios sees the drive and I've already installed the OS on it but when I chose it it won't boot.  It just keeps booting to the primary drive with WIndows 10 on it. Can anyone tell me if the WD SSD drives won't work for some reason in this computer?  The drives are listed as supported for the X1 I know.  Seems strange it would work in the X1 and not the X1 Extreme. Thanks, Glenn

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Has anyone found a M.2 SSD heatsink that fits in the Thinkpad X1 Extreme? Thanks!

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