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W7 on older systems

Q: W7 on older systems

How do you go about installing W7 on an older system without Vista drivers?

I have a ShuttleX pc

Thanks

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Preferred Solution: W7 on older systems

I recommend downloading and running DAP. It can help sort out any driver and firmware related issues on your system

It's worked out well for many of us in the past.

You can download it direct from this link http://downloaddap.org. (This link will open the download page of DAP so you can save a copy to your computer.)

A: W7 on older systems

malware?

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Hello Guys,

Has anyone managed to get older O/S's like Windows 95, 98 and ME running on VirtualBox on Windows 8, I used to be able to run all Operating Systems when I had my Vista set up. Strangely I can install and run DOS and Win 3.1 but not Win 95, Win 98 and Win ME. Anything from XP works fine.

Thanks

Tony

A:VirtualBox and older operating systems

Is this a filesystem problem? - Whereas MS-DOS and Windows 3.1 resided on FAT formatted hard disks. FAT32 was for the Windows 9x brigade, and NTFS for XP etc.

Let's see how we used to do it in the old days...

Before you started you needed a boot floppy with CD-ROM support, A Windows '95 install CD, which was not bootable, a CD-ROM drive and a Hard drive usually between 512 and 1024 MB - 1 gig or less - bigger drives were a problem and quite rare then.

You needed a formatted DOS 6.2 or better boot partition with the system files on it to install to, I recall, the method in those days was boot from a DOS system floppy in the a:\ drive, run Format c: /s but not reboot yet, so that the CD-ROM drivers on the floppy would still work and then copy the contents from the CD-ROM to the hard drive, which was faster than installing from the CD-ROM. The DOS commands (in red)were as follows:
A:\>C:
C:\>md windows
C:\>cd windows
C:\WINDOWS>md options
C:\WINDOWS>cd options
C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS>md cabs
C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS>cd cabs
C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS>copy d:\win95\*.*

Where d:\ was the CD-ROM drive. Once the files had copied, it was time to reboot, removing the CD-ROM and Boot floppy.
On rebooting from the hard disk, you were taken to the C:\prompt, and it was a case of navigating to the setup folder that had all the setup cabs in it.

C:\>cd \windows\options\cabs
C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS>setup

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I have some older machines (X60, X60s, X61, X61s), I can download drivers from Lenovo for Windows 8.1 maximum, I wonder how well Windows 10 is supported on these older machines, officially orunofficially? Sure I can just try, but better to ask first, I don't want to bother my system for no good reason. The drivers provided by Microsoft might work as well. Or the Windows 8.1 drivers by Lenovo.

A:How much Windows 10 is supported on older systems?

Hi ccjts,
Have you seen these articles? https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-10/Lenovo-Windows-10-Upgrade-Guides/td-p/3377996

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Does anyone know a good source of information on older systems? I'm running a HP Pavilion 4483 (second-hand) from '99 or so and the little info I can find seems conflicting. Specificly, I'd like to add RAM to get this old dog as fast as it can get. HP Support tells me this computer only has 2 SDRAM slots(both used) but opening it up I see 3 slots, one empty. I could pull the 64MB SDRAM out and put in a 128MB but it would be cheaper to just add a 64MB card.

HP Pavilion 4483
CPU : AMDK6-2 3DNOW!
Mboard : Asus P5S-VM
Chipset : Sis 530
Memory : 188 MB
Speed : 450 MHZ
 

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I have a older computer that run just fine with Windows XP and Windows Vista (the computer had not been use, and the current installed OS was W7). Few days ago I reinstalled Windows XP x64 and Windows Vista x64 and they both ended in a disaster.
 
XP: I installed first the updates by using pre-downloaded servicepacks and then the chipset drivers. XP went to bleeps because installation of Avast failed. I also had a problem with USB-ports which stopped working. Anyway after failed avast installation the operating system wouldnt boot up anymore. I decided the install Vista instead. 
 
Vista: After installing servicepacks I noticed that Windows Update is not working anymore. Tried solving it by installing Fix It tool from microsoft. I encountered another problem where powershell did not install. I gave up on getting the update service to work, and decided to do some benchmarks. The computer froze and after pressing the reset Windows Vista wouldnt boot up anymore.
 
W10: I decided to install W10 ... everything works now.
 
I dont remember the older operating systems being so bad, or I am just seeing things through rose-tinted glasses?
 
SPECS:
MSI P35 Platinum
4x 1Gb G.Skill DDR2 800Mhz
Q6600 Go
HD 5870

A:Is microsoft self-sabotaging their older operating systems?

Probably a combination of rose-tinted glasses and software changing. Here's the thing: Vista and XP aren't supported anymore. This lack of support means they don't receive new features that may be used by modern software. So stuff breaks. The longer the OS has been out of support, the worse things get. Conspiracy theories are silly simply because there is no need for M$ to sabotage old OSes.

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We have two elderly family members (Grandmas that are both almost 90) that use old, outdated computers running Vista and XP. They both continue to have error messages; ie "Out of Memory at line:65", "High PCU", printer does not respond, Computer locks up and has to have hard re-boot, IE shuts down, unable to access email. One is using a high speed modem from CenturyLink and the other is on high speed Comcast connection.
Anyone have suggestion on how to best help these two lovely women? Windows 7? or a refurbished basic PC replacement?
 

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Can anyone provide information or recommendations concerning anti-virus, anti-trojan, anti-adware, anti-spyware or firewall programs that will run under old operating systems, specifically Windows 3.11, Windows 3.1, Windows 95 or DOS 6.x??

I'm looking for freeware or shareware that I can use on an old, cast-off 486 machine with 40MB of RAM. I realize that I'm largely insulated from the majority of malware because of the archaic software I'm using, but I still want to avoid things like boot-sector viruses, and I'd like to secure the system as best I can. Any information, suggestions, comments, guidance, belittling remarks, etc. would be appreciated...
...the best computer system is a free one!

A:Anti-malware for older operating systems?

Hi junklover and welcome to BC.Take a look at www.oldversion.com for some programs you can match to Windows95. You can get ZoneAlarm 2.6 from there and that will work alright. There are also older versions of AdAware that will probably work with 95 but I would try the latest one just for the heck of it. They also have Spybot S&D, but again the latest one will work (see the Spybot FAQs for the fix for 95).F-Prot Antivirus for DOS is free for home use, which almost seems like an oxymoron as I don't think many corporations are using Dos these days. AVG Professional works on 95 so I don't see why AVG 7 free version won't.You are at risk for malware with at least Win95. I just cleaned a machine with 95 on it and it had a number of spyware/adware programs. I cleaned it the lazy way by formatting and loading 98SE . The only belittling remarks I can think of concern me because I should have more for you as I am the King of Old Stuff.

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I have a bit of a "senior citizen" when it comes to a computer to use. My day to day computer is that one in my signature. Compaq Deskpro with a 1.0 GHz P3 and 512 of RAM. What I usually do to a system like this and slower ones that run Windows XP is I go to System>Advanced>Performance>Settings and uncheck all but: use visual styles on windows and buttons, use drop shadows for icon labels on the desktop, use common tasks in folders, use a background image for folder type, and smooth edges of screen fonts. For older even older systems I will uncheck: use common tasks in folders. Just a little curious on what others do.
 

A:Windows XP speedup tips for older systems

I also turn off the Themes Service and the Windows Zero Wireless configutration . . if the pc does not hagve wireless
 

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I have a panasonic projector which works well with Windows XP. I have tried to connect it with several other machines using newer operating systems (Vista and Windows 7); but, they won't work. the best I can get is the projector will flash the screen like it is trying to connect but, it can't finish the job. I have to keep the 7-8 year old laptop around to work with this projector. This becomes inconvenient for guest coming in to do presentations. Are there drivers or some update for legacy devices?
 

A:Solved: older projector not working with new operating systems

Have you tried installing the drivers in compatibility mode?
 

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Hello. I am trying to hookup a Sega Genesis, Dreamcast, and a Playstation 1 to my HDTV. I have a picture of the back of the TV for your suggestions on what I can buy or how I can use what I currently have to make them all work. I have a Playstation 2 hooked up already using up all of the inputs on the back leaving just HDMI and cable box available to use.

I also have a picture of the game and cable box, so you can see if there is a way that I might be able to hook them all up to the game box and make it connect to the Cable box and somehow use the cable box as the input device for the game systems to the back of the TV.

Here are the pictures: (Should be attached at the bottom).
If you all have any suggestions on any device that may be able to work with this setup, that would be very helpful. The back of the game systems each use their own AV adapter containing red, white, and yellow cables. The genesis has only yellow and white cords (no red). The game box seems to be an AV/RF box with 4 buttons on the front to select which game system to use. Not sure if it is working since it has been stored away for so long.

Thanks for your help. If the TV contained a lot more of those RCA inputs on the back, there would be no problem and would not have to use an external box or input device. Do let me know if you need anymore information. I will try to check back often. I am looking forward to hearing your responses. Have a great day.
 

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Hi All. I have had this computer for about 4 years now and my version of Windows XP Prof is 2002 date.
I recently was told by a computer builder who helped me that Windows XP Prof works on a file system called NTFS. I apparently have files that I copied back onto this computer after installing Windows XPp that are of the Fat32 variety. I was not aware at the time that NTFS and Fat32 apparently are incompatible. I have had problems over these years and have zero'd out my hard drive 3 times and reinstalled Windows XPp from scratch. What I was not aware of was that My versions of Microsoft Word and Word Perfect and some downloaded programs are Fat32. I need these programs and cannot afford to replace them. Yet I am having problems with places like Pogo gaming (where I spend a lot of time) and the applets that run there. I have the latest Sun Java installed but it does not work properly (I have tried all ways till I am blue in the face) unless I ALSO leave MSVM installed (particularly in the registry). I only have the latest Java chosen in the advance tab of tools but without the MSVM installed Pogo does not work at all for me. So I have both with the Java 5.7 chosen as program. But I am told that my computer is confused due to the File system problem. I figure it wouldn't do me much good to zero out my system again if I still have to put my old fat32 files back on here to function. So is there anything I can do. I only have a 20 gb hard drive and there is n... Read more

A:Problems With Xp Prof And File Systems Of Older Programs Installed

How would you have programs that have FAT32 files after you reinstalled XP?
The file system is determined by the operating system - not installed programs, and once you formatted in NTFS everything on the drive would also be NTFS.

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(Please pardon my redundancy - I have posted this to the Customer Care Board and Client Service forums - just hoping to correct what I hope was an accidental change in support policy.)
This is not a technical comment but it is a comment about Dell's Technology Support. Recently the support site for laptops, and I presume other areas though I have not checked, was revised to change its structure. In the process many items were removed notably having to do with drivers for older systems. Even if a system is past warranty that does not remove the responsibility for Dell to continue to provide the most recent (even if old) drivers especially since the cost of doing so is trivial. This is especially the case when Dell is the only source for specific drivers. A specific example is a Dell Vostro 3700 laptop which uses the embedded GPU in the CPU as well as outboard nVidia GPU; the hybrid video architecture is such that NVidia provides no driver and re-directs users to Dell's site. In the case of this specific model, most of the drivers that were present a month ago are now gone.
Dell laptops have two things going for them - good products at a good price and a great support site. This has prompted me to continue focusing upon Dell - e.g. two new 5759's in 2017, and to recommend Dell to colleagues and friends. I have had recent occasion to review some very old systems on HP's support site - all relevant drivers continue to be available. I strongly recommend that Dell c... Read more

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I'm running on a Dell Dimension 4600 and want to burn a couple cds. I tried downloading a bunch of different burning software, but my drive was outdated every time. I was able to burn before, about a year or so ago. I've tried older versions of various software, but no luck.
 

A:Need older burning software for an older drive.

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At work I have a PC w/an Athlon XP 1700 chip, 256 meg of ram, and a Radeon AGP w/64 meg memory video card runing Win XP Pro. So my gaming choices are somewhat limited. I've already played Quake 2 and Half-Life (and Opposing Force & Blue Shift). I like playing the FPS style games (single-player mode). So I'm wondering:

Is Counter-Strike single player or only multi-player? Is it free if I own Half-Life?

Is there a site that would list FPS games by release date year to year? Since I know Half-Life was released around 98, I could look for other games released around then that would probably run ok on my system.

Any suggestions for good FPS games that would run on my system would be appreciated. I'm looking into some of the Star-Wars games, also Halo, and Unreal seem to have good reps and might run ok.

Thanks much,
Harold
 

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My Old Desktop OS is Windows Vista. I need to import files to my new desktop. New OS is Windows 10. OlD HP Model is HP Pavilion m9000. New HP model is HP Pavilion 23 q113w. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!













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A:importing files from an older HP system and older OS

@Jeff1017 If by "hardwiring" the two PCs together, you mean using a crossover network cable to connect the two, that only overcomes the issue of using a USB stick. You still need third-party software to transfer settings and/or apps -- as that information is stored in lots of different places and it would take you forever to find them all manually and copy them.

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Lately, I've heard some people say that the Unix code is more secure than the Windows code and that the Windows code has many holes and bugs in it. Before, I always thought Unix systems (for example, Mac) were less likely to get infected by viruses only because they had a lower market share. However, I'm starting to wonder if the Unix code is really more secure than the Windows code. Is this true? Also, does the Windows code really have that many bugs and holes in it?

A:Are Unix systems more secure than Windows systems?

It is rather debatable, its harder to compare two completely different codes and say one is flawed and one is not.

Though Unix/Linux does appear to be a bit more secure, which is why Apple's OS X (their baby), is based on a unix-code.

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I have a home network consisting of a DSL modem hooked to a 4 port router/hub (Linksys BEFSR41). Life has been good with all forms of PCs and OSs including the addition of a wireless data port and a laptop running XP Home. I added a 16 port workgroup hub (Linksys EFAH16Wv2) as the home network grew to 5 systems; 4 running XP Home and 1 running XP Professional.

Recently, I built 10 identical PCs (ASUS P4GE-V mainboards with built in NICs, 1.8 P4s, and 256M ram). I installed XP Home on each machine and all the pertinent XP updates as well as all ASUS driver updates.

All 10 PCs found the internet and are able to surf the web.

My problem is that 3 out of 4 of these new PCSs do not see any of the other systems on the hub or the router/hub. I used 'Home' as my designated workgroup.

I have run and rerun the wizard but these machines cannot see the other machines on the local network. I have tried reinstalling XP but it doesn't seem to help.

I can ping individual machines from the command prompt and they can send a receive packets which leads me to believe that is OS related and not hardware related.

One interesting observation I made is that the new PCs that are able to see the other local machines also have a 'My Network Places' icon displayed in the Start menu while the PCs that cannot see the other local PCs do not have this icon displayed in the Start menu.

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I'm currently acquiring windows 7 (6956).
I have 3 hard drives (500Gb, 500Gb, 160Gb), i want to install windows 7 on one of my 500gb hard drives but i still want to have the choice of using xp on startup. Anyone know how to do this?
(i want xp to only use the other 2 drives.)

A:2 Operating Systems (Moved from Other Operating Systems)

Welcome to TSF!!!

Hi,

I am going to move your thread to the Windows XP forum. The folks over there will have a better idea how to set you system up and the like.

Hope everything goes well for you.
Cheers!

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Mod Edit:  Moved from XP to Win 8 - Hamluis.
Hello!
I have an older desktop computer with the following characteristics:
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 2.4GHz 4600+
Motherboard: ASUS M2N-E SLI
Memory: 1 GB DDR2 SDRAM DDR2-800
Graphics: nVidia GeForce 6600 (256 MB)
OS: MS Windows XP (32-bit)
I decided to add another 2 GB of RAM (so 3 GB in total) and replace the graphics card with an Inno3D GeForce 9500 (512 MB).
I would like to squeeze the maximum performance out of the computer (games, web surfing, watching movies etc.), the security is not an issue because I have it solved in another way.
So, what do you suggest, Windows XP (32-bit) or Windows 8.1 (64-bit) - these two options are available to me. The third option would be Windows 7 (32 or 64 bit version), but I don't think you'd recommend it for my old PC.
I am aware that Windows 8.1 is much more secure than XP but that is absolutely not important for the particular PC. I'm only interested in gaining maxium performance. So, will the 8.1 or XP squeeze more performance out of it (with 3 GB of RAM and GeForce 9500 GT), what do you think?
For the maximum efficiency I will disable FireWire, LPT, COM ports (in Device Manager or in BIOS) which I don't need - this will also slightly speed up the computer, right?
Thank you for your comments in advance!
 

A:Older PC - XP or 8.1

Anything but XP.  XP is no longer supported by Microsoft.  Updates to other Microsoft operation systems (OS) can be reverse engineer to find a flaw that may exist in Windows XP.
 
This PC World Article will explain why you are better off investing in a new machine, rather than putting more money into your existing machine.

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Hey,

My current system :

Athlon XP 3000+
A7N8X Deluxe Motherboard
1.5gb ram
XFX 7800GS Graphics Card

Is currently still chugging along with an older 350W power supply, and i'm thinking I should change it. I'm looking for a good PSU that will keep me going strong with my current setup, but also support an upgrade, possibly in a few years, and although I have my eyes on the OCZ GameXtream or whatever it's called, and the Antec Neo, Neo HE and Truepower 500W+ range, i'm wondering whether they will be able to work on my older board.

Any help is appreciated.
 

A:Looking to buy a new PSU for an 'older' PC

Any PSU that fits to your case (ATX most likely) will work with your motherboard.
 

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I have an old IBM aptiva 2176 c23 computer and want to add some ram and actually found some on a website, but they actually have 3 different ones that could work, but dont know for sure wich one, here is what the instructions that came with my computer says i need:
SIMM
72 pin, 32 bit, 32 mb, 60 or 70 nanoseconds,tin lead contacts, fast page mode or EDO Dynamic Random Access Memory (DRAM),

ok, here are 3 links to that computer website, 3 different 32 mb 72 pin simms, but wich one do i need

http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/viewproduct.asp?ProductID=MEM-8X326

http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/viewproduct.asp?ProductID=MEM-840FPM

http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com/viewproduct.asp?ProductID=MEM-EDO326


I dont want to order the wrong ones, so if you will please give me a hand.
thanks
 

A:please HELP!! RAM on older IBM..

Hi mopower440,
check out this link Here It shows IBM Aptiva Type 2176 Models.hope it helps.

memory 32MB — CT128245 EDO Non-parity.
 

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I do charity work, take in pcs and parts and make refurbs that go to schoolkids who dont have
a pc at home. As a result, i keep a few test units around to test different parts. I have pcs with win 98se and win xp and a P4 with win xp pro on it. I just keep the mobos out on my workbench and use whichever one i need.

I have win xp pro installed on an older P3-933 Aopen, 440bx type of mobo, with win xp pro on it
and, i believe, the latest bios upgrade in it. When i turn the unit off i get the screen that says its ok to turn the pc off. then i have to hold the power on\off in for 5 secs to turn it off.

I looked in win xp pro system properties and cant find a way to change that so the unit will just shut down, instead of holding the power on\off button in.

I knew the answer to this problem but i have forgotten, lol. Is it in the bios or windows xp where i will find the answer to this question? Someone out there will know!

thanks in advance
 

A:win xp and older pc

There are settings in BIOS and within Windows. For Windows select Start, Control Panel, Performance and Maintenance, Power Options, and Advanced tab.
 

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About to install XP for first time - chosen board is MSI 6330 minus the onboard audio.
My question is if bios has never been updated, will XP install on original bios from
2001 or thereabouts? First option if 6330 is non XP friendly is an Aopen AX34. Will
I run into same potential problem with that board??

-M
 

A:XP and older boards

XP Created in 2002 so Bios/Motherboard from 2001 will work but the Bios itself if much older and it will work..
 

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Hey Guys!
I currently have an older [mid 90's] cd/MP3 player in my boat, the maximum recommended burn speed is 12x and the acceptable bit rate is between 32-320Kb's/second
The file system recommended is the "JOLIET" format, I dont know a lot about this stuff, so, if you could provide some insight and/or a good program that will create MP3's within these parameters, I would greatly appreciate it!

Tech Support Guy System Info Utility version 1.0.0.1
OS Version: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium , Service Pack 2, 32 bit
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual-Core QL-60, x64 Family 17 Model 3 Stepping 1
Processor Count: 2
RAM: 2813 Mb
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics , 256 Mb
Hard Drives: C: Total - 183147 MB, Free - 39816 MB;
Motherboard: ATI Corp., Ant3, Base Board Version, None
Antivirus: Norton 360, Updated: No, On-Demand Scanner: Disabled
 

A:Solved: Older MP3 Help

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when i start up my computer (older p2 mmx 400mhz)
i get a conflict i/o 3f8 error

now there are 2 com1 ports and 2 parallel ports on the pc
how do you configure irq for each com / parallel port in the bios?
 

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I have Windows 7 64 bit installed. I need to dualboot and add Windows XP 32 bit. How would i go about doing this?

I know i need to make a new partition on the harddrive, i'm going to make a 50 GB one right now.

Will i run into any problems doing this? is there something specific i need to do to make sure this works and i dont **** anything up?

anything you guys want to add on and tell me that'll help will be much appreciated! thanks!

A:Need Help w/ Dualbooting to an Older OS

My C: drive has Windows 7 64 bit, i just made a 50gb partition and labeled it J:

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Will this computer support winxp. It has 333mghz, 128 megs memory,and a 4.01gig hard drive. It is running win98se now, and works fine. Thanks much

A:xp on older computer

G'Day topdog, and welcome to TSF!


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Will this computer support winxp. It has 333mghz, 128 megs memory,and a 4.01gig hard drive. It is running win98se now, and works fine. Thanks much




To answer your question in one word no, sorry.

The reasons that I say this are: Windows Xp o/s is RAM hungry, and I personally think that two other factors; namely, the CPU and HDD capacity are against you.
You would be far better off upgrading your entire system, and selling your current computer on eBay; keep it for a spare, or just stay as you are if the machine is functioning well.

If you decide to upgrade, take into account just what you want to do with the new machine, as this will determine what type of machine to buy.
You could buy each component separately and assemble it yourself, or purchase one that already has everything that you think you will need, including the o/s.
There are many good buys around at the moment as all computer suppliers/manufacturers are vying for business, but bear in mind that Microsoft? will be releasing their 'new generation' Windows? Vista? early in 2007; hence, the good deals that are on around the world.
So if you want to really take a "quantum leap" you could wait for this new release; that, of course, is entirely up to you.

I hope I've given you some 'food for thought'.

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I bought a second-hand IBM Aptiva 350 with a 486 Intel and Windows 95. It has 32 MB RAM, 75% free space on drive C, 95% free on drive D, it says 90% of system resources are free, but it runs incredibly slow. It had alot of software which I couldn't use because I needed the disks, so I put all unecessary programs in the recycle bin, but it had no effect. When I loaded the AOL 7 CD, it installed AOL 3. AOL tech support says it does that when the system doesn't have the right requirements. The computer I have currently has a 300 Mhz Cyrix processor with Windows 95 and works just fine with AOL 7. I have no idea what is causing the IBM to act so slowly. Would reinstalling Windows 95 help or should I just forget the whole thing? Surely some parts must be salvageable?
 

A:Older IBM too slow

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Hi all,
Is it just me or does anyone noticed that an older computer these days are better than the entry level ones of today? My computer is like over two years and upgraded to 16 gb of ram and came stock with a 1tb hdd. now, granted it's not ssd or anything like that, but when my pc came stock with 4 gb of ram and these computers now only have 2 gb or less. even the surface 4 is soldered ram and can't be upgraded. what is computing coming to when i rather have a 3 year pc than a new of today?
thanks,
 

A:older computers better?

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I?m doing a school project with a couple of other 6th formers, its a kind of 'challenge week' that our schools running, and were running a modding shop were we basically take an older PC and try and do it up as much as possible so its of some use today, on a very limited budget (approx. £100). I need to find (preferably) 2 512mb DDR2100 sticks of ram and the budget is too small to purchase them from a shop when other expenses are taken into account so I was wondering if anyone has any idea's on where to get older parts (already raided our I.C.T stock cupboard, they gave us a 17 inch CRT which is quite nice of them ). Plus ideally (but not necessary) we could do with a faster Athlon XP than we've currently got, at the mo its running a 1600, we are going to try to run Battlefield 2 on this, after all it is a challenge week, so need to get the 'best' old parts available at our budget level. Of course if anyone has any older parts they don?t need then that would be greatly appreciated, but generally any advice would be great, just kind of wondering whether there?s a dedicated 'old parts' shop online or something I?ve never come across. Finally, if anyone has any idea what the minimum graphics card (AGP) would be to run Battlefield 2 then that would be useful, I know there?s the minimum specs but they often underestimate dramatically from what I've seen.​
Thx
 

A:Where to get older parts

not shore where you can shop over in europ, i heard www.newegg.com is shippig their soon you can look there for some ram and an agp card ( i recomend you get atleast a ati 9600xt or nvivda 6600 in agp in order to play battlefield 2 without lag.) Your prossor is kind of aging (BF2 requires a 1.8ghz or xp1800+ or better but i got away with runig it on my P4 1.6)


good luck and have fun
 

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Hey

I have an ASRock 939A8X-M motherboard and I've installed windows 7 on it. I need to install drivers for it but there doesn't seem to be any official releases for win 7. Withouth the drivers I can't connect to the internet, nor my sata HDD or DVDRom won't work either.
Any suggestions are welcome.

Thank you in advance.
 

A:Win 7 on an older motherboard

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I have an older PC that I was wondering if I did a video card upgrade on it, would it support Win 7. The proc is a 32 bit Semperon 2.0 gig, the computer has 2 gigs of ddr ram and an IDE 160 gig HD. There is an optical drive too.
The video card slot is AGP. I was wondering if a Geforce 6200, 512mb 64 bit agp 8x card would run Aero on Windows 7 Ultimate.

Thanks for your time.

A:revive older PC

You should have No Problem

Oldest "Dinosaur" Running Win7

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I would like to add the Adaptec 2-Port USB 2.0 PCI Card to my system so I can take full advantage of my Canon Printer which has a 2.0 input slot.

Presently, I'm using a Belkin hub to connect all of my USB 1.1 accessories to the USB slot on the computer.

The salesperson at the local CompUSA store told me that the current hub will work for 2.0, all I have to do is buy the 2.0 PCI card. The hub was purchased before 2.0 become common (doesn't indicate anything about USB 2.0 in the instructions), but the person was adamant that it would pass the 2.0 data rate with no problem. I'd like to do that to save having to buy longer (10 foot) cables to reach the PCI slot on the computer case.

Can you confirm this method will work?
 

A:USB 2.0 work with older hub?

The salesman is full of it, no surprise there. That hub most certainly will NOT pass data in excess of the 12mbit rate of USB 1.1, though it'll work fine at that speed on a USB 2.0 connection.
 

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I can't download and install a newer version of HJT, whatever is on my pc won't let me. Can you work with the version I have? 2.0.0 beta.

A:older version

Try RSIT and post to the HijackThis Logs and Virus/Trojan/Spyware/Malware RemovalDownload random's system information tool (RSIT) by random/random from here and save it to your desktop.Double click on RSIT.exe to run RSIT.Click Continue at the disclaimer screen.Once it has finished, two logs will open. Please post the contents of both log.txt (< Read other 6 answers

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I'm considering buying a new laptop but they all come with windows XP. I would prefer using windows 98 on the laptop. Can I do this, and if I do will everything on it work correctly? Thanks
 

A:New laptop - Older OS?

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Not really a gaming type problem but wanted to know if anyone knows if games like Deus Ex, Quake II, Quake III, All Half-Life games and add ons, System Shock II and some other games along those lines will work under WIndows XP.
A few others I question are the Pro Pinball Series from Empire Interactive ( Timeshock, The Web, Fantastic Journey.
From what I have seen of XP looks good but then if any of these can't be played under XP, is there a way to correct this?
Thanks for any help on this question.
 

A:Older games with XP?

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My mother in law just got a new computer with Vista, her old printer has a parallel cable, not a USB. The new computer only takes the USB, is there an adapter that will allow me to hook her parallel into something that goes to a USB or does she have to buy a new printer?
 

A:Using an older printer

There are parallel-to-USB adapters, and I've used them, but results have been inconsistent. I've never used one with Vista, and I suspect there would be more problems with such a device than with XP. Aside from the adapter, you still need Windows Vista drivers for the printer. If it's so old as to not use USB, it's doubtful drivers exist.

A new printer would be a better, more reliable solution. There are very good, cheap printers available now.
 

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If I upgrade to windows 7 will ALL my software still run?


My wife got a laptop and 1 of her CBT (Computer Based Traiing) Demos for job hunting does not work with Windows 7 64.


Bill

A:Windows 7 64 and older S/W

Hello Bill,

You might see if you may be able to run the program in compatibility mode with whatever older version of Windows selected the program was written for.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

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When i perform a disc clean; there are lots of older updates from microsoft updates; on my disc. Can I delete these older updates,or do i need to keep them,if this is the case, how much space do all these old updates take, thanx in advance for help with this issue thanx rob.

A:older updates

I, for one, do not understand exactly what your question is. Perhaps one of the other members will be able to understand it. I mean no disrespect, but if you would break up your post into sentences with the correct punctuation marks, it would be easier to understand.

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So, I found my old warcraft 2 game. I am trying to play it but it says that I can't. I try to run in compatibility mode for windows 95 and 98 and I try all dif kinds of settings and it still says it won't run it. why the heck not?

A:Can't run older game

Go to vista compatiblity center and see if it can be played at all.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/com...windows-vista/

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I have a pretty old Athlon 800MHz Slot 1 (I think) CPU in an older PC. It's got a small heatsink on one side and a 30mm fan as well. How hot do the old Athlons get? Is it dangerous to run it without a fan, just the heatsink? I want to make the PC as quiet as possible, and the CPU fan is currently the biggest source of noise. If I rid myself of that fan, would the CPU overheat? I'm not overclocking or doing anything resource-intensive; it's mostly just used for IMing and internet surfing. I have an 80mm fan running in the back of the case exhausting air out. If I take off the CPU fan, assuming that's plausible, should I keep that fan like it is, or turn it to suck air in over the CPU?
 

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Hi..Ill make this short and sweet...I need suggestions for an antivirus for an older computer thats 9 years old..Windows XP 2003 with 1.8 GB Ram...New versions of any av slow my pc to a crawl..and with no av..it runs fast..Avira and AVG no longer support older versions I was referred to..Thanks

A:Need AV For Older PC Pentium 4

Have you updated Windows XP to Service Pack 3?

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Hiya
I have been facing a few problems with the older UT(not 2003)
I am mot able to save the games.
Can some one please explain why this is happenning ?
THanks in advance for the help
Bye
 

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I am looking into purchasing an older laptop and was hoping to get a little insight first. I don't have much money for it and all I generally would use it for is surfing the net. I'm not a gamer. The asking price is $200. I used Belarc to gather all the info and it is listed below.

If the asking price is too much please give me an idea of what is more reasonable.

Thanks,

Operating System
Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dv1000 (PR428UA#ABA) Rev 1

Enclosure Type: Notebook
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
1.70 gigahertz Intel Pentium M
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: Quanta 09B8 34.20
Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
BIOS: Hewlett-Packard F.12 11/08/2004
Drives Memory Modules c,d
160.03 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
156.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K14 [CD-ROM drive]

(Brand New) Hitachi HTS541616J9AT00 [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 0, s/n SB044CCJE8N2WD, rev SB4OA70H, SMART Status: Healthy 480 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot 'J5G3' has 256 MB
Slot 'J5G2' has 256 MB
Local Drive Volumes

c: (NTFS on drive 0) 160.03 GB 156.78 GB free
 

A:Older LapTop

Have a look on eBay for a similar spec
I'd say that the asking wasn't unreasonable but I'm in the UK so unsure of what things generally go for in the US
 

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I figure since the holiday season is coming along, I should do some upgrades on my primary computer so it will last another year or so before I need to completely rehaul it. I want to upgrade the RAM on my Hp Pavilion 522c up to 1Ghz but I've already seen the end result of my roommate just blindly buying RAM. It resulted in about a month without a computer because his Hp would not reboot and he had to send it back to the factory to be repaired. I can't take that risk. Will this RAM, http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...ails.asp?EdpNo=576571&Sku=U10-1904&CatId=147, work? Is there a cheaper alternative?
I am not a serious gamer but I want to be able to run a decent game every now and then. I hope to update my graphics card soon as well but as of right now, I mostly use my computer for academic purposes that include audio editing and other memory intensive tasks.

The manual basically amounts to: "DDR DIMMs must be 184-pin unbuffered DDR SDRAM

Here is extremely rudimentary spec sheet if that helps: http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?lc=en&docName=bph07567
 

A:Upgrading the RAM on an older Hp

I'd recommend that you find out what brand was used by HP in that machine, then buy that brand. If you are completely replacing your RAM, go to Crucial.com, they have an excellent selection of RAM that is approved for use in various brands of PCs. Just look up your PC by model, they will tell you what you need. Crucial is by far the best in terms of quality and service.

If all else fails, contact HP, they will be happy to sell you some overpriced RAM that will work.

Whatever you do, DO NOT MIX RAM BRANDS, nothing good can come of it.
 

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I am running xp with sp1. At least that is what my computer says, however, when I try to install some programs such as media player it tells me I must have windows xp. Microsoft website will not let me upgrade to sp2 because it thinks my computer is not compatable and various other issues like this. I tried to download a patch, I don't remember which one, and it told me that the patch was not available on a server edition of windows. I should not have a server edition. I am very confused. I ran several anti-virus and AdAware came up clean, however MWAV escan shows trojans and keyloggers over and over even after it says it has deleted them.

Here is a hijackthis log: Does anyone have a clue?
Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 11:22:57 PM, on 10/14/2007
Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\EarthLink TotalAccess\FastLane2\IPMon32.exe
C:\Program Files\Bellsouth\HelpCenter40b\bin\sprtcmd.exe
C:\Program Files\Winamp\winampa.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_02\bin\jusched.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\INCRED~1\bin\IMApp.exe
C:\Program Files\Lexmark X125\LEX125SU.exe
C:\Program Files\wmconnect\wmtray.exe
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