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Hi..is it hard to install a copy of XP on a raid array after its already on non raid?

Q: Hi..is it hard to install a copy of XP on a raid array after its already on non raid?

Hi..thanks for the help...I have XP installed on a non raid drive C: I am trying to install XP on a RAID0 set up.....I have tried to install the raid set up but the puter reboots after a BSOD right when it tries to get to my desktop...is it because of some conflict with another OS on the non raid drive? I tried to disconnect the non raid drive before booting up the raid XP but still..no dice...any ideas?
Thanks
FoxK

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Hi ,

RAID and Win 7 Home Premium newbie. Short version of long story - replaced old dead RAID Drives in Win XP system with (2) new 500GB Drives plus plan to upgrade RAM to 8GB (would have liked more but $$$) and install new OS = WIN 7 Home Premium 64 Bit.

MB is GA-EP45-UD3R Rev 1.1 and I am having trouble figuring out how to get, prepare and install the Intel RAID Drivers for 64 Bit Win 7 HP.

My main problem is that on the Gigabyte site they offer two RAID Drives.






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Intel SATA Preinstall driver (For AHCI / RAID Mode) Note: Press F6 during Windows setup to read from floppy. OS: Windows XP 64bit,Windows Server 2003 64bit 8.9.0.1023 0.32 MB 2009/08/11







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Intel SATA RAID/AHCI Driver OS: Windows XP 32bit, Windows XP 64bit, Windows Vista 32bit,Windows Vista 64bit,Windows 7 32bit,Windows 7 64bit,Windows Server 2003 32bit,Windows Server 2003 64bit 8.9.0.1023 13.10 MB 2009/08/11


The first "pre-install" driver extract to a 64Bit (bootdisk - Win XP 64?) and the second "I do not know when to use it" Driver extracts to a (iata_cd.exe).

This is where I am totally lost. Which RAID Driver and from where do I install during the clean install of Win 7.

I get the need for a USB Stick/Thumb Drive with the RAID Driver on it that Win 7 will ask to be pointed at, but which Driver????

I cannot extract anything from the iata_cd.exe. Tried 7-Zip, Universal Extractor and File Alyser - I do not see a Win... Read more

A:New RAID Array and Clean Install Win7HP-Help with RAID Driver Install

The pre-install driver will allow setup to install the files correcty on the RAID array this is offered for XP only.

When you have created the RAID array in the BIOS Utility and you launch the windows 7 setup does it show the new array as a possible install location? If so there is no need for a pre-install driver (Win7 supports a variety of RAID setup out of the box).

If you do need a pre-install driver, you have not been offered one for Win7/Vista on the Manufacturers website. The only solution to this I have found is to Download "7lite/Nlite" and build the "post install" driver into the win7 image then burn a new disk (or burn to USB pen for faster install).

Hope this helps.

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Ok i just bought two Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB drives for a raid 0 array and i was wanting to copy my current windows 7 partition over to it once i get it set up. If any one could help me in figuring out how to set up the array and moving/cloning the win7 partition over to it please let me know. i have a Foxconn A7DA-S mobo and it has built in raid support but i dont know exactly how to use it yet.(never done raid before) But yea, just a recap:

1. Set up the raid 0 array on my Foxconn mobo
2. Copy the windows 7 partition over to the raid array

Thanks in advance people.
 

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Guys,

Is it possible to use a separate hard disk for your OS and programs with data storage on a RAID Array consisting of two (or more) identical hard disks?

Would the system disk need to be the same size as the disks used for the RAID Array?

Thanks!

Fly'n_Blind!
 

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My mum recently gave her computer to me since she got a netbook and thought that she wasn't getting enough use out of such a computer. An error message kept showing up when I powered on the computer, apparently this had been showing up for some time.
It was on the Intel Matrix Storage Manager before Windows started, one of the physical disks were listed in red. However, the computer was still in full working order, but I wanted to get rid of the screen that kept coming up, so in an attempt to fix it, I went into the Matrix Storage Manager's configuration utility and not knowing what it would do, reset the disk listed in red to Non-Raid.

Now ever since I've done that, I've seen nothing except the BIOS, all that comes up after the Matrix Storage Utility now is a device listing and it says at the bottom 'DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER'. I inserted an OS disk and nothing would come up. Since then, the closest thing I've had to progress was by going into the BIOS settings and changing the hard disks SATA mode to 'IDE'.
After setting it to that, the Matrix Storage Utility doesn't show up, which I thought was a good sign at first, but then afterwards the same final screen shows up, but the message at the bottom had changed.

'Boot from CD:'
(Then after a couple of seconds loading it comes up with)
Missing Operating System

Since I've had this problem, I've tried 3 discs to try and save my o... Read more

A:Solved: Reset my Raid 0 Array to Non-Raid and now nothing's working, help please :(

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Hi all,
My RAID 1 (I think? I have two equal drives that are mirrored) array was causing me a lot of pain. It kept freezing up my system and having me to had to rebuild the RAID too often. After a number of tests and browsing info online, I've decided that the RAID was the culprit of the freezing and BSODs that came once in a while.

Before deleting the RAID array, I went and used the Seagate (my HDDs) .iso file and used their diagnostic tool to check the drives. I did a long test of one of the HDD (Device 1) and it passed. I deduced that this was at least a good drive. I didn't do a long test for the other HDD (Device 0). But with both, after a short test, both passed.

I then went into the RAID manager (DOS-looking screen before Windows starts) and then 'reverted' Device 1 to non-raid. Then decided to choose 'delete RAID setup' for the Device 0. All good so far. I rebooted and Windows actually started fine. This is where I'm at right now as I type this. No freezing so far!!!

What I wanted to know is how do I find out which HDD Windows is booting off from? Is there a command line I can use in command prompt window in DOS mode to find out this info? It'd be great to know that I'm not on Device 0 since I haven't done a Seagate diagnostic long test on that one.

Also, I'd ideally want to have the second (Device 0) HDD formatted so that I can leave it in my tower and use it as an external HDD with Syncback. This is the closest thing I can have to RAID and I'm perfectly happy ... Read more

A:RAID - deleted RAID array, Windows 7 ok but I have questions

You can do into Disk Management and it will tell you which drive is used for booting. It will say it is active.

I am confused as to one part. You say you want to leave the second drive in your computer, but use it as an external. You can use one as your main drive, and use the other for backup...however a good backup process involves a drive that isn't readily available all the time. That being said, something like SyncToy from Microsoft will allow you to choose folders and on a schedule or manually, copy them to the second drive. I use this on my wife's laptop to keep her photos backed up to our server.

RAID has no place on a desktop system, so you are better off without it. But to get started, just go into Disk Management to see how your drives are configured now. Post a screenshot if need be.

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hello everyone,

I am thinking to renew the whole data in current raid1 array md0. My environment is:

raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level 1
persistent-superblock 0
chunk-size 16
nr-raid-disks 2
nr-spare-disks 0
device /dev/hdb1
raid-disk 0
device /dev/hdd1
raid-disk 1

this '/dev/md0' is /home, so I'm not booting from this disk and the other file systems including root and /boot are on /dev/hda.

What I want to do is to renew the whole data in /home.

Is there any way to do this by switching /dev/hdd1 with all new data copied, then sync this new data to the other raid disk (/dev/hdb1) : FROM /dev/hdd1 (the disk just added with new data) TO /dev/hdb1 (currently active raid disk)??

Usually, after switching the HDD to new one, data in /dev/hdb1 is to be copied to /dev/hdd1 for recovery. But in my case, I want to do the opposite.

I would be so appreciated by all your helps,
Thank you,
 

A:RAID question: how can I renew the data in raid array?

I'm not sure what you want to do.. You want to copy something to the /dev/hdd disk (from another computer maybe) and then copy the data from /dev/hdd to the RAID array?

Since you are using RAID1 then it should be fairly simple.
You just simulate disk failure by removing /dev/hdd. You could do this by making the hdd drive hdc instead (jumper it to be the secondary master). Now you mount the "hdc" drive (that really was you hdd) and copy whatever you want to /dev/md0.
Since it's a RAID1 array then all the data that goes to md0 is written to hdb and when the /dev/hdd comes back the RAID is syned onto both disks again.

I'm not sure if that makes any sense to you. Can't be less obscure than your post though
 

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Hi guys,

I've got a home built server with a huge RAID 5 array. I want to use Ubuntu on this guy, but installation has got me whipped. The system is using my recycled gaming system, an AMD Athlon64 3000+ on a K8T800 motherboard. And a Highpoint RocketRAID 1740 with 4 Seagate 1TB drives in a RAID5.

Now there's a lot of quirks with the way this system is running, but my biggest hurdle is booting after the install. Basically using either the Live CD install or the Server text based install, I have to load the module during install so that the RAID array is recognized and available for install. Install runs fine until boot loader where GRUB fails, but LILO succeeds.

Anyhow, after the install finishes and the system reboots, the kernel doesn't have support for the RAID array and the boot fails because it can't find /sbin/init. Shouldn't the install have added the module for the RAID array to the kernel? How are you supposed to install to devices that require a driver?
 

A:Ubuntu install on RAID array

You need to have the proper support compiled into the kernel, not compiled as a module. That's the long story short.
 

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Greetings all,

I'm going to make a long story short but just say that I had to reformat 2 internal 500GB hard drives in my laptop and managed to do a clean install on my Disk 0. These two disks used to be in RAID 0 but I had to switch to IDE in order to get Windows 7 reinstalled. However, now that I'm into the OS and changed Regedit to boot back into RAID 0, I'm getting an error upon booting moreover, I am not sure my computer is recognizing the second drive anymore... Can someone help me out and lead me in the right direction?

This is what I see when I boot:

The computer clearly recognizes the 2nd drive exists but when I go into My Computer and Computer Management, no 2nd drive is there! (E: is not Disk 0, I think it's just a partition I made when installing)
Now when I boot into the storage config (ctrl+I), this is what I see and what my options are:
Can someone please please please help me out?! Do I need to format the drive somehow in Windows before I try to tinker with the BIOS? Please help!

Note: this is an MSI GT780DXR notebook. All drivers are reinstalled.
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Sidenote, why is my system booting straight into the PXE screen...?

 

A:HELP! How to set up RAID Array from clean install of W7??

bump, please
 

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I would like to get 2 SSD?s and put them into a raid array using Windows 7-64bit, but wanted to make sure I understand how to do that. The 2 SSD?s will be the only drives in the system. My computer has an X58 motherboard with an ICH10R. Here is what I think is the correct procedure:
Boot into the bios.
Set the storage config to RAID (the other choices are IDE and AHCI)
Reboot and hit Cntrl-I to get into raid menu during boot.
Set up the raid array in the setup screen.
Reboot to the Win7 install CD and install Windows
Is this correct? Are there any other steps I need or tips I should be aware of?

A:How to install Win7 to an SSD Raid array?

I personally would stay away from RAID, as it seems to more problems than it is worth.

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So I have 4 of the same hard drives. I have been using 1 as my OS drive. I just got the other 3. How would I go about making a RAID 0 (the high performance kind of RAID) array out of three of them, and copying my OS instalation from the 1 drive onto the new RAID array?

I have tried by using the disk management in Windows and creating a striped array from the three new HDs. I am then using Acronis true image home to try to clone the old OS HD onto the new array. The problem I am having is Acronis doesn't see the three drives as one, it sees them individually.

I am using Acronis cause it is a free trial, and I have used it succefully in the past to clone from an old drive to a new drive. However I am open to using any software.

Hard Drives : Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB
Mother Board: Foxconn A79A-S
OS : Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Let me know if you need any more info.
Thank you.
 

A:New RAID array, Cloning OS install

You need to create the RAID array in the BIOS of the motherboard or in the RAID controller, not in Windows. Windows does RAID via software(almost useless), Acronis simply looks at the hardware, that's why it needs to be created in the BIOS via firmware or hardware then Acronis will see the drives as a single RAID-0 array. Check the motherboard manual for how to configure the array. Also note that any data on any drive in the array will be erase so you need to either backup up the drive thats currently running or not include it in the RAID-0 array. And Windows may not boot after its cloned to the RAID array IF the controller was not already set in RAID or ACHi mode in the BIOS - you may need to do some registry editing prior to enabling RIAD or ACHI in the BIOS.

The performance of some motherboard RAID controllers and regular desktop drives can be kind of poor compared to a real RAID controller and enterprise quality drives.
 

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I've got a computer with three physical hard drives. One is an old IDE drive that we use for a scatch disk for PhotoShop work. The other two are identical SATA drives in a mirrored RAID array, which is where the OS is supposed to be installed.

The computer was previously running Windows 2000, but I wanted to upgrade to XP and decided to do a fresh install this morning.

During setup, I did the F6 thing to install extra disk controllers. When I got to the setup screen to choose what drive/partition to install Windows on, the IDE drive *and* the RAID array showed up. The RAID array had several partitions, and I deleted a couple of them, including the system partition. In other words, I'm past the point of no return.

When I chose one of the partitions on the RAID array to install Windows onto, I got the following error message:

To install Windows XP on the partition you selected, Setup must write some startup files to the following disk:

58644 MB Disk 0 at Id 0 on bus 0 on atapi [MBR] (That's the IDE drive)

However, this disk does not contain a Windows XP-compatible partition.

To continue installing Windows XP, return to the partition selection screen and create a Windows XP-compatible partition on the disk above. If there is no free space on the disk, delete an existing partition, and then create a new one.Click to expand...

I don't care to have an extra partition on the IDE drive, and besides, I want to be able to boot without the IDE drive anyway.... Read more

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This one hard drive was from a RAID 0 setup using 3 hard drives. I pulled it out beacsue I wanted it to be installed in my other system.

How do I format it? Do I just simply format like regular? Will any problems arise because the data is stripped?

I never done this before.
 

A:formatting a hard drive from a RAID 0 array

once removed from raid config it is seen as a single drive
when in doubt do a wipe write 0's or 1's to drive
takes time but worth it
use bootable disc is the best approach
acronis is your best bet for error free format
 

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I've been dealing with this for hours. I've looked all across the internet and I have yet to fix my issue.

SPECS/ISSUES
MSI GT80 Titan Laptop
Windows 7

I just bought/installed two Samsung SSD 850 Evo M.2s
I already have a 1TB HHD with all my stuff and OS on it (windows 7)-Not Samsung

Followed these instructions perfectly in Video directly from MSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1md2eUqKrKo

I have already Raid configured my two new SSD's into a Stripped Array and booted SATA etc
The system on boot does not install/try to install an OS. It acts like there should be an OS and fails the Windows screen load(freezes for a sec on the colors) then brings me to .5 sec blue screen that I cant even read its so fast, then it starts the "start windows normally screen/or restore previous version", neither of which work cuz it just fails over again etc.

Why can't/wont it let me install my OS. Yes I have the boot Disc in the cd drive also. It is the first OPTION on boot.
Any help leading to this will be appreciated. I'm beginning to think I'm ruining my computer restarting it so much trying to figure it out.

I've tinkered more, and decided to test out just a normal array of the SSD's to non-raid and when I boot it just ignores trying to install on the new SSDS and loads up the OS from my HDD. Even more frustrating. Apparantly when the two SSDS are Stripped and Together they are DYNAMIC and they can't have a OS installed onto them?! Now googling more issues ~~~Still clueless... Read more

A:Trying to install Windows 7 on 2x Samsung 850 Evo's in Raid or Array.

Hi and welcome to SevenForums,
Go into bios and disable fast/ quick startup
Should be all that is needed
This is the only raid I know of

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Hi, Windows 7 Forums;
I'm currently running Vista Ultimate x86 and have two Striped RAID arrays. I've already tried to do an update with Windows 7 Ultimate and the system balked and restored the Vista OS informing me that it can't update this system. I've cleaned up my system drive and readied myself to reformat my sys drive to facilitate a clean install of Win7 but i'm worried about two RAID arrays that I have running. I don't want to have to create the arrays again and reformat the drives and lose all the data on them. Will I need to have all my drivers ready when I install Win7? and if I use the drivers as new wouldn't i lose my RAID? A loss of 2.5TB of data would set me back a long long time.

Thanks

A:Will I lose RAID array's when I install Win7?

  
Quote: Originally Posted by cvalley


Hi, Windows 7 Forums;
I'm currently running Vista Ultimate x86 and have two Striped RAID arrays. I've already tried to do an update with Windows 7 Ultimate and the system balked and restored the Vista OS informing me that it can't update this system. I've cleaned up my system drive and readied myself to reformat my sys drive to facilitate a clean install of Win7 but i'm worried about two RAID arrays that I have running. I don't want to have to create the arrays again and reformat the drives and lose all the data on them. Will I need to have all my drivers ready when I install Win7? and if I use the drivers as new wouldn't i lose my RAID? A loss of 2.5TB of data would set me back a long long time.

Thanks


Hi and welcome

You could run the update advisor to see if they would pass now
kenn J+

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Hello,

I have just bought two brand new WD 500 GB RE4 HDD's and connected them coorectly for RAID 1.
I have changed the BIOS and Pressed Ctrl+F to create the RAID and this has been successful.
When installing Windows you obviously get to the aprt where you need to load the floppy drivers to locate the drives...

I have downloaded ever driver from the Gigabyte support drive and loaded them onto a USB, not one driver can be seen when the USB is "Browsed" too...

How important is it that the drivers are on a floppy, as I do not have a floppy drive or access to a floppy and drives.

Also what driver should be downloading as I tried the 3.2.1540.17 one and that was not seen, so I just downloaded them all in an attempt for success.

Any one with any advice its greatly welcomes thank you in advance

A:RAID 1 Gigabyte SATA Cannot find the array during Windows 7 install

Hi and welcome,

We need a bit more information about your hardware, especially the motherboard - there are many models of Gigabyte motherboard. Please follow the instructions in this tutorial to populate your profile with the relevant information, and I'll see what I can find for you:

System Info - See Your System Specs

Regards,
Golden

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I have PC running Windows 7 and it has had no problems up until recently. A few days ago, it froze and a family member unplugged the computer from the back (he pulled the cord). He first tried to press the on/off button in the front of the computer but it didnt do anything so thats why he pulled the cord. At first I though the HDD had died, so I turned on the computer and listened. It powered up normally and I can hear and feel the disks spinning without making any unusual noises. In the BIOS, it says that no Primary IDE Master is detected. I've checked the cables and even swapped my SATA cable for another one the HDD still wont detect.

First screen that comes up:
Scanning IDE Drives.... (It doesnt detect any so I get the second screen)
After this I have a couple of options:
CTRL+F Fastbuild Utility or ESC to continue boot

If I press nothing I get the message:
No Hard Disk Drive Detected!
Press F1 to resume
Pressing F1 gets me:


During the second screen, I held CTRL+F and got to a FastBuild utility screen. I did a little reading and it seems like this program is used to create/edit RAID controllers. I only have 1 hard drive in my pc.

FastBuild Utility:
1=Auto Setup
2= View Drive Assignments
3=Define Array
4=Delete Array
5=RebuildArray

When I press '1'.
When I press '2'
When I press '3'
As you can see, the motherboard is clearly detecting the hard drive. Otherwise, I wouldnt be able to see it in the array settings, right... Read more

A:Computer not detecting hard drive suddenly? RAID/Array error?s?

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My system has been running fine for quite some time. I'm running Vista Ultimate on an ASUS P5ND2-SLI mobo.

I just picked up 2 new 500 GB SATA drives to use for data storage, RAID 1 . My OS will remain as is, on a single, non-raid drive.

I hooked up the two SATA drives and followed the instructions from my ASUS user guide:
With the BIOS, I enabled RAID and selected the drives.
With the NVIDIA Raid Utility I set up the RAID array as Mirrored and selected the drives. It seemed to go well.

But Vista does not recognize the two drives as a RAID array. It shows two distinct drives (this was with the Vista Disk Management Util and with Device Manager as well)

I called ASUS and got someone on the phone fairly quickly, although they informed me that I had done everything correctly so this must be a Vista issue. According to the ASUS rep, I do NOT need RAID drivers for Vista because the OS is not installed on the array.

Any ideas. Thanks for any help.
-Andy
 

A:Vista doesn't see my additional hard drives as part of a RAID array

I would use the bios utilty to delete the array and re-create it.

Asus rep is wrong me thinks, you do need the raid drivers for the mirror to be seen correctly by the OS.
 

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Hi Everyone,

I have just cloned a RAID array and I am concerned about it's performance.

A bit of background...

My Motherboard = ASUS Z9PE-D16
RAID Card = PIKE 2008 LSISAS RAID card

The initial RAID array consisted of 6 x 1TB Seagate Constellation (ST1000NM001) SAS drives in a RAID1+0 (10) configuration.

The new array consists of 6 x 4TB WD SATA drives in a RAID1+0 (10) configuration.

Initial performance is quite slow, but this may just be due to parity checking. On paper the original, and new drives are comparable.

Whilst the original drives were SAS and the new drives are SATA they both operate at 7200RPM and have 6Gbps interfaces.

My question is - "Is my initial slow performance likely due to parity checking, or will I experience ongoing slowness?"

Any help here will be greatly appreciated. Furthermore whatever you offer with regard to help may assist a piece of Australian Cultural heritage!

Kind Regards,

Davo
 

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First time posting :blush:,

Situation: I have two hard drives : main drive: Seagate 500GB w/ windows xp and second drive: WD 1TB blank.

Without backing up the main drive (ops...), i went ahead and enabled RAID 0 on both drives and created a RAID volume (128KB strip / Size: 1TB (931.5GB)).
NOTE: the RAID volume size is only showing the exact space of the 1TB, excluding the 500GB drive.
After realizing that I needed to create a backup image of my main drive to use RAID with an existing drive, I'm left with the "Operating System Not Found" message.

Question: If I Delete RAID Volume (which is based on the size from the blank 1TB drive), will both drives become available as non-RAID disks and keep the original data on the 500GB main drive and be able to run windows again?

I'm using software RAID through Intel Matrix Storage Manager option ROM v5.6.2

I understood that "Resetting the drives to Non-Raid" will cause all data on the disk to be lost, so this isn't the approach that I'll be taking til I find a solution to backup my data.
However, from reading the "Delete RAID Volume" option, it listed Deleting a volume will destroy the volume data on the drive(s) and cause any member disks to become available as non-RAID disks, so knowing that the RAID Volume is blank, then maybe trying this will be the answer.

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A:RAID issue - deleting RAID volume to restore non-RAID disks

sadly, there's no way to do what you want without an existing backup.

Look at it this way;
A disk has a container ~ the partition.
The partition as a structure ~ the filesystem (eg NTFS, FAT32, RAID).
We put our data into the structure.

When we create backups, we are getting only the data itself (unless you use an image program like Ghost or Acronis where you get all three).

Deleting the RAID will give back the two independent HDs, but also breaks the structure so that the data becomes in accessible.
 

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When I bought my PC 7 years ago, I asked the techs to create a Raid 0 array with my 2 200GB WD drives. Recently, I have been reading the comments here and on other forums to stay away from Raid arrays as they are more problems then they are worth.

What I want to know is what is the best way, and procedure to accomplish this, to remove this Raid 0 array and use my 2 200GB SATA drives as separate drives with the OS on one and data on the other. I will probably partition the OS one as I do not need 200GB for Windows 7.

Am I correct in assuming that once this RAID 0 array is broken, I will lose everything and will have to do a clean install of Windows 7 plus all my apps?

thanks

A:Raid 0 Array

  
Quote: Originally Posted by beastmaster


When I bought my PC 7 years ago, I asked the techs to create a Raid 0 array with my 2 200GB WD drives. Recently, I have been reading the comments here and on other forums to stay away from Raid arrays as they are more problems then they are worth.

What I want to know is what is the best way, and procedure to accomplish this, to remove this Raid 0 array and use my 2 200GB SATA drives as separate drives with the OS on one and data on the other. I will probably partition the OS one as I do not need 200GB for Windows 7.

Am I correct in assuming that once this RAID 0 array is broken, I will lose everything and will have to do a clean install of Windows 7 plus all my apps?

thanks


Backup all of your data, make sure that you have backed up all of your data. Remove the array configuration, get out your Windows DVD, reinstall the OS, patches, and all applications, copy your data back from your backup.

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I would like to know how to set up three hdds to read as one. Is it possible to make all three small hddsto be read as one for ease?

Thank You
 

A:RAID Array

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I just made a 2-drive raid array on my kid's computer like this:

Iwill KK266 motherboard with 1.4 ghz Athlon, 256 PC133 ram.
Promise Fasttrak66 raid controller
Two IBM 8.4 gb ata33 drives, each a master on its own channel.

I fired it up, and made a raid 0 array with the two drives, 16 gb total, 64 kb stripe.

Ran the Windows XP Pro install CD, and created two partitions on the array of about 8 gb each, and installed WinXp on the first one, formatting it with NTFS. It took a LONG time to format (well over an hour)

Once the Windows desktop was running, I installed a few more programs. The ATTO disk benchmark showed transfer speeds in the 17000 range for the C: drive, so I thought all was well.

But then I noticed I only had less than 700 mb free on the drive! I checked the size of what was installed, and found it to be just over 1300 mb, giving a total of just under 2 gb. These figures are shown on the drive properties screen.

Next I fired up the Disk Manager in the Administrative tools, and it showed both partitions in their correct size of 8 gb. No clue why I was only apparently accessing 2 gb of the C drive.

I then tried formatting the D drive, but after another long process, the format failed. No reason given.

What's going on?? I seem to recall there was some sort of 2 gb partition limit in FAT, but I'm using NTFS.

Can anyone shed some light on this? Am I missing something obvious?
 

A:I need some help with my Raid array...please!

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The Intel Matrix Storage manager does not support adding an additional drive to the array. I have 3 160's now and want to add the 4th. I can set the drive up as a spare only. Is there any other way I can add the 4th drive to it without starting all over and having to install all again. If I have to I will set it up with both a raid 0 and a raid 5 to have the best of both worlds but if I can get the array to take the 4th and migrate whatever then I will leave it with just the raid 5 setup.

Robert
 

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My dad wants a new PC built - he wants a half-decent one, he only surfs web , music and streaming videos - he plays Flight Simulator X but thats all...

his current setup is:
3Ghz Pentium 4 with HT
1Gb Ram
160Gb SATA-II / 8Mb cache
nVidia 6200GS / 256Mb / 300Mhz
Windows XP SP3

now where thinking
Core2Duo (or quad if cheap enough)
2Gb Ram
2 x 160Gb SATA-II drives in RAID array
better nVidia graphics card
Windows 7

my question is this: WHICH IS BEST RAID ARRAY TO USE?

the reason we decided to use these method is for extra performance - now im aware that RAID '0' stripes the data so if 1 drive were to fail then he would have to re-place it or re-install windows on single drive - but you get the most free space and best performance from this...

what about MIRRORING? as he doesnt use much space anyway would he be best with this option? DO YOU STILL GET THE SAME PERFORMANCE FROM MIRRIRON AS YOU DO WITH STRIPING? (except you get less space but if one drive fails everything will still run off other drive....)

his disk usage would only be about 40Gb (without mirroring)

if you DO get the same performance with mirroring then how much space would he get from 2 x 160Gb...? (and installs obviously use double)

would he still get 320Gb with the 40% performance increase from raid'ing two drives together - just installs are double? (thats fine in that case he would only use 80Gb of the 320Gb which leaves him AMPLE)

thanks
 

A:RAID ARRAY - which is best?

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Not sure (and this may be a dumb question) but is it possible to add another HDD to my box and set up a RAID array between the new HDD and my existing HDD WITHOUT having to reformat the existing drive (thus, without having to reinstall windows?)

Thanks in advance for the the big "NO!" that I think is coming

A:RAID Array

  
Quote: Originally Posted by eduede


Not sure (and this may be a dumb question) but is it possible to add another HDD to my box and set up a RAID array between the new HDD and my existing HDD WITHOUT having to reformat the existing drive (thus, without having to reinstall windows?)

Thanks in advance for the the big "NO!" that I think is coming


Hi and welcome

Could you be more specific about between?
Ken J+

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Hello:
I am having a problem with setting up a Raid 1 array. I am using Windows Vista Ultimate 32 along with an Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard. After viewing videos on Raid Array setup on Youtube, I decided this chore should not be so difficult. I entered the bios and followed the prompts and made my Raid 1 array. No error messages, and both of my WD3200 HDD were listed, and the array was boot enabled and labeled healthy.
I then inserted my Windows Vista Ultimate CD and clicked on Repair, and on to restore my pc. Windows discovered my external backup, and I then chose the backup that I wanted. I followed the prompts and then clicked restore and received a message that stated that there were to few drives or not enough space to continue. I now do not know how to proceed. Any suggestions would be helpful.
I call this PC my "learning PC". I am trying to learn some of the more exotic functions of my PC. I have read that the Windows Vista built in backup utility is good for backup restore, but not to be used for Raid. Is this true? If so, what product would help me with this issue? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Charles

A:Raid Array

I'm no expert but i do know ... On a complete pc restore "which I'm guessing your trying to do" Your new HDDs must be as large or larger than the original.

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Well this morning my 1tb drive seemed to have failed. i got home and was, surprisingly, able to access it again (so im backing everything up off of it now) im thinking, once i get this replaced, of buying another drive and setting them up as RAID 1. do raid 1 drives have to be the exact same model, or just the same capacity? i currently have a St31000340AS which i cant find in stores, only online. would adding a ST310005N1A1AS-RK still allow me to set up a raid 1 array?

thanks for the help
edit - also, how would setting up a raid 5 array work? once again, would i need 3 of the same drives? if not, would having two 1tb drives (not exact same model) and a 200 gig drive work? if so, how? i know it limits the capacity by the size of one disk. which disk would it the extra capacity be removed (like would it end up being a 1tb + 1tb or a 1tb +200g?) also, for each way, do i need any special cables or hardware for each one? my mobo is the Asus A8N-E which i looked up on and it says it supports raid 0/1, but im not sure how support for raid 5 works, if mine even supports it. how would i check or know?

sorry, im new to raid arrays lol. basically, anything a newbie to raid arrays should know, help me out XD (i am very computer literate though, fyi)
 

A:Raid 1 array

plasma dragon00 said:





Well this morning my 1tb drive seemed to have failed. i got home and was, surprisingly, able to access it again (so im backing everything up off of it now) im thinking, once i get this replaced, of buying another drive and setting them up as RAID 1. do raid 1 drives have to be the exact same model, or just the same capacity? i currently have a St31000340AS which i cant find in stores, only online. would adding a ST310005N1A1AS-RK still allow me to set up a raid 1 array?Click to expand...

Most cards that support RAID1 will allow you to use two hard drives that are not identical. The smaller of the two capacities will be the size of your RAID1.
ie: Drive 1 = 998GB and Drive 2 is 1TB, the RAID1 size will be 998GB




plasma dragon00 said:





edit - also, how would setting up a raid 5 array work? once again, would i need 3 of the same drives? if not, would having two 1tb drives (not exact same model) and a 200 gig drive work? if so, how? i know it limits the capacity by the size of one disk. which disk would it the extra capacity be removed (like would it end up being a 1tb + 1tb or a 1tb +200g?) also, for each way, do i need any special cables or hardware for each one? my mobo is the Asus A8N-E which i looked up on and it says it supports raid 0/1, but im not sure how support for raid 5 works, if mine even supports it. how would i check or know?

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I am getting ready to set up a RAID Array but this is my first time doing anything with RAID. I know how to get into the BIOS and change settings and I know with two hard drives, I should do RAID 1. However, I just have a few questions before I do this. First off, I am an idiot and did not notice that my first hard drive I got when I built the computer has a 32 MB Cache:

Caviar Blue 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive WD10EALX - OEM

I noticed it only had a 32 MB CACHE when I went to get another one. I then asked for the version with a 64 MB CACHE (WD1002FAEX), paid for it and left. Will these two hard drives work together in RAID if they have different sized caches? Please give me any info/experience you may have with this or anything with RAID would be helpful, thanks.

A:Help w/ RAID Array

The short answer is yes, they'll work. Onboard cache is internal to the drive, and as long as the drives are the same size, then RAID 1 (mirror) should work fine. I don't think it would make much difference, but the drive with the larger cache should be the primary drive just for efficiency's sake.

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Hello. I am new in installing SATA HDD so i am confused when i installed the drive for the first time the nvidia raid bios setup asked me what type am i going to use on the HDD so i selekted the first one that was working (striping). Now my question is: did i selected the proper type ? because i saw that there is other like mirroring and stripe mirroring. If a made a mistake how can i fix it.
 

A:Raid array

It depends what you want to do. Without getting into a discussion about the value of RAID on a home system in general stripe is what you want. Do some reading here. RAID0 is stripe and RAID1 is mirror.

Just make sure you do back ups of your data to another storage source.
 

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So I currently have a Vista Business 64-bit. I also have 2 1tb drives. I have one of the terrabyte drives with vista on it and over 300 gigs of information. I would like to put this drive in a Raid 1 array and do not want to have to reinstall vista and lose all of my stuff. Is there anything I can do to make sure this all gets to the RAID 1 array?

A:Raid 1 Array

Setting up a mirror RAID Config should mirror to the second disk. You should not lose any data, Set it up as a broken array, and let it "rebuild". (approx time to rebuild 1TB is 12 hours)

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I'm having a problem with a potentially failing RAID array and/or disk drives.

Two weeks ago, I was burning a DVD from files on the RAID array when the burn failed with a data read error. The array subsequently displayed the following characteristics:

1. Event Viewer showed a 'The device, fasttrack1, did not respond within the timeout period' error, followed by a thousand simultaneous errors that said 'An error was detected on device.. 'harddisk2'.. during a paging operation'.

2. The RAID drive and all directories were viewable in Windows Explorer. No files within those directories could be read or written, however, and switching to thumbnail view would not show thumbs of images of any size.

3. The Disk Manager within Computer Management would not detect the RAID array.

4. After rebooting, the array works as usual. It has again failed during another DVD burning operation just today, and again works after a reboot.

My configuration:

Athlon 2000 / Gigabyte GA-7VAXP (Via) / onboard Promise RAID controller / Win2000

I have many drives in the system, but only two in RAID. They are IBM 60 GB 60GXPs in RAID-0. Windows is on a non-RAID 120 GB drive. The system runs 24/7 with something like 99.9% uptime since 2002, when I bought it.

My questions:

1) How can I test the integrity of an onboard RAID controller? Is there an equivalent to SMART?

2) How can I test the two drives connected to the array? Windows SMART utilities do not recogni... Read more

A:RAID array failure?

Well, the best advice I can offer is to do a backup of any data on the RAID drives right now!

If you want to test the drives independently, you'll need to use the disk manufacturer's utility and configure the RAID controller to allow the drives to be used in a non-RAID environment. Obviously, this is best done when you have proper backups of what's on the drives!
 

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Hi There,

I recently built a new PC. I used an ASUS P5WD Premium mobo, 2 gig or Ram, ASUS ATi PCi Graphics, 2 Maxtor 300 Gig SAT2 H/d's, and Sony DVD-RW & DVD-Rom.
I setup the MAxtor's in Raid 0 (Stripe). My pc failed to boot a couple of times, but went ok after a re-boot, but a few days ago, it had turned itself off. When I re-booted it, I noticed that although the Raid Array is listed as normal and bootable and both H/d's are seen, one is listed as "Error Occurred" and will not boot. After some fiddling it does get to say that Windows cannot boot due to the ...system32\config\system file being missing or corrupt, but if I go to the Repair consol from my XP CD it will do nothing. If I try "CHKDSK" it says it has unrecoverable errors, and it does not appear to be able to access the h/d's in any way such as making directories, or displaying the directory tree!

I have new drives to go in to get me up and running again whilst sending the faulty ones back, but is there a way of getting them up and running to be able to get some files of of them, and/or wiping them before I send them back. Even better, can I repair? I have tried the Maxtor Power Max software but it does not see the h/d's, I guess because they are in a Raid Array??

Any help please??

Dave
 

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The continuation of my building, I'm booting it up now, and all's well, I'd like to know how to set up a RAID array that will read and write off of both my 120 Gig Seagate Harddrives for even more speed.
 

A:Setting up a RAID array!

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So, I have an external hardware Raid 5 array consisting of 4x3TB drives yielding little over 8TB of formatted space connected over eSATA. The array has about 5.5TB of data on it. One sad afternoon I was copying some data when my computer decided to freeze. It did not "un-freez" itself in timely manner so I was forced to manually reboot. After the reboot all came back online, but the windows gave me message that if I want to use the disk (RAID array) I will have to format it. Needless to say I turned pale.

The RAID utility shows the raid as intact with no errors. The Windows recognizes the "drive" and does assign it a letter, but I cannot access it (it wants a format). The disk manager recognizes the "drive" as healthy, but in RAW file format. I have used Active Partition Recovery (freeware) on it and it does recognize the "drive", partition and all the files/folders (can't copy and paste them, figures). However, in the properties it states the the GPT is damaged. All the data is there, but I can't get to it or get it out. What are my options at this point?

Thanks,
Desperate (and pale) Pioneer
 

A:Damaged GPT on Raid 5 array

Please note that anything you try to do now can cause more damage.

Give TestDisk a try. its free opensource software free data recovery software! It was primarily designed to help recover lost partitions and/or make non-booting disks bootable again when these symptoms are caused by faulty software: certain types of viruses or human error (such as accidentally deleting a Partition Table). Partition table recovery using TestDisk is really easy.
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
 

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I currently have 2 * 1tb hard drives in a RAID0 array.

I have just installed a 120gb Samsung SSD drive and want to reconfigure the array so I have a more traditional setup ie:

C: 120gb (OS)
D: 1tb (Files)
E: 1tb (Video)

I have run boot & nuke to remove all trace of everything on the drives, unplugged the array and plugged the drives into different sata ports on the motherboard, but BIOS still shows the hard drives as 'Performance' 2tb combined.

Any ideas how I can break the array so BIOS lists as separate drives?

A:Breaking A RAID Array

I wouldn't think that was possible. Did you completely disable the RAID functionality in the BIOS? I could see them showing up as inaccessible, until they were formatted.

Was this a software RAID setup, or were you using a controller?

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OK....what's the deal?
I have 2 - 200GB drives and 2 - 80GB drives, This totals 560GB.
From this, I'd like to create Array1 with 10Gb's for the C drive and OS.
Then I'd like to create Array2 with 550Gb's for my data files.

I know I can do this if I was using SCSI disks with Compaq's SMART controllers, but I can't find anything that says I can do it with IDE ATA.

SIIG's best only allows raid0, raid1, and raid0+1
Promise is worse: they truncate the larger disks to match the smaller disks.
Adaptec is unclear whether they can or not.

Anyone?
 

A:Can't you do multi-array raid with IDE ATA hdd?

You haven't stated what OS you're running, so I'll assume you have Windows 2000 or XP (you can do this in Linux too, but I haven't tried it). What you can do is make a RAID-0 of the two 80GBs and a RAID-0 of the two 200GBs (using whatever RAID card you get). Then make a 10GB partition on the 2x80 array, and install Windows on that. Then you can just use Windows' built-in software RAID to join the rest of the 2x80 array with the 2x200 array to make a single large JBOD drive. That way all your data is still striped, but you get the 10GB + 550GB configuration you desire.
 

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Hi, I've got a simple question. Say I wanted to start over and re-install Windows XP. I used to use a Win98 boot disk to partition and format the harddrive, but that was on a typical IDE harddrive. How would I go about completely wiping/formatting two (2) Western Digital SATA harddrives in a RAID 0 array? Using a Win98 boot disk, the disk doesn't recognize my Raptors and tells me I have no harddrive. What is a common, easy to understand process for completely formatting RAID 0 using only two drives? Thanks.
 

A:How to format a RAID 0 array?

The XP setup will recognise the RAID and prompt you to format the RAID array.
 

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After a power failure, one of my striped drives was not functional in the array anymore. I had to delete the array and redefined it. I have run Norton Disk Doctor and it seems to recognize that there is a drive, but it asks if I have trouble accessing the partition. It (NDD) then runs a search for the FAT, but can't find any.
My problem is that WinXP doesn't recognize my array. It doesn't show up in Windows Explorer. But other programs seem to be able to see it. I ran QueTek File Scavenger and it finds all the files on my array.
I haven't written to the array at all. All the data is intact. WinXP just seems to not recognize that there is an array there.
 

A:WinXP does not see RAID array.

Do you have the drivers for the RAID installed.
Nothing should really accesible if you had the RAID striped...
 

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I was wondering if anyone here has any experience setting up a RAID 0 array on a Gigabyte P35-DS4 mobo? I read the following about running a RAID 0 array to help enhance my Oblivion game play...






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Setting up your system to run on a PAIR of very fast SATA hard drives is the first step towards alleviating this problem of massive disk swapping (and its resulting bottlenecks). Those drives should then be configured as a RAID 0 array. Oblivion and your other games should be run entirely from that array. By having a pair of drives operating in tandem, the data can be swapped back and forth at an enormously faster rate and your gameplay will be incredibly improved overall.


Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

A:Help Setting Up RAID 0 Array

Typically with all standard RAID setups, you have an option before Windows is called to take over the booting where you can set up and make changes to your RAID. This is usually either in the BIOS or right after the POST screen before Windows. It's usually pretty quick and involves an F-key to load the settings menu.

I don't have a RAID but as far as I know, you plug in your drives (in pairs or quads, etc etc) and load this settings menu and tell it what you want to create. It should fire away and build the RAID and life is good. Restart, pop in your Windows disk and off you go.

If you are mirroring your data (RAID 1), if one drive fails you are still alive, not gaining much in performance. If you stripe your disks (RAID 0) and create one fatty disk, if one fails, you're not so lucky, unless you do a RAID 5 (RAID 1s full of 0s, SORT OF like a full house in poker), there's more to lose with RAID 1.

HOWEVER, you will see the best performance from a RAID 0 at the cost of potential data loss without a proper backup.

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I have just set-up a RAID 1 array with two 500GB hdds using a raid controller PCI card having learned my back-up lesson the hard way .

Everything seems to be working. Windows XP is seeing it as one drive as i would expect but i want to check it. Is it just a case of unplugging one of the drive and seeing if it still works or is there a more elegant way of testing it?

Oh, and it's just for data. The OS is on a separate drive.

Cheers for your help.
 

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Hello all and please be gentle with me as I'm an intermmediate level of expertise. Maybe not even that. I had my Raid 5 crap out on me on Sunday and I get an error message when the RAID controller's BIOS boots up. It's a Highpoint 1640 controller and it has driver/BIOS version 2.06s on it. The controller's BIOS screen comes up and lists hard drives 1&3 and then has a little message screen that asks "power off, destroy, continue". If I select "continue" and press enter then a second BIOS screen comes up (same as the first screen) only this time it has hard drive 2 listed and has the same little message screen. Through experimentation I plugged and unplugged various drives in different combinations and think I've determined that the drives 1&3 are the parity drives and drive 2 is the original hard drive that 1&3 have the split data because if any thing other than 1&3 is plugged/unplugged I get the bootscreen screen that ask insert disk/ boot from disk or press F1. First question: Does this make sense/sound right? Second question:If I select "destroy" on the second screen that lists the 2 drive will it destroy data on all three disks or just on 2? Third question: If I choose "destroy" for hard drive 2 can the Raid 5 start the rebuilding process again using the same drive or do I need to reformat it or buy a new drive? My drives fyi are WD 500GB 7200rpm. If more info on the drives is required I can p... Read more

A:Broken Raid 5 array

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Hi all.

I currently have 2 500GB drives configured in a RAID 1 array (totalling 500GB of available storage). This is quickly filling up and I will soon need to add more space. The drives are currently attached to a 2 channel RAID controller PCI card.

What I want to do is buy a 4-channel controller card (like this one) and two 1TB drives to add to my array. Totaling 1.5TB of storage.

Will this work or do all the drives need to be the same size? Will I be able to set this up without having to wipe the existing drives? Is there anything else that I need to be aware of when setting this up?

Cheers for your help
 

A:Upgrading RAID 1 array?

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My in-laws have an older Dell desktop PC running XP and recently are getting a message telling them that one of the drivers in the raid array is bad. It looks like there are 2 drives '0' and '1' and the #1 is the bad drive. They are both the stock 250GB WD hard drives that came with the machine. Do I need to replace it with the exact same drive or will any SATA 250GB work? Let me know if more info is needed. Thanks
 

A:Bad drive in RAID array

Check the specs of the failed hd (ie make/model) online to verify *IF* yours is hot pluggable - - you should match the specs
of the failed device.
 

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I have a lot of experience building my own computers but no experience at all with RAID arrays. I have purchased a RAID PCI Card that should arrive at the house today. I already own 2 Seagate 80 gig hard drives and want to set them up in a RAID 0 configuration. I have Googled to try to find instructions for setting it up but really haven't found setup instructions. From what I have read, it looks like I will lose everything on my 2 hard drives and will have to reload OS and software again because I don't have a 3rd hard drive. For just a quick start, I plug in the PCI card, install both HD's, electrically connect the 2 HD's to the RAID card, and then reboot? Is there some type of software that needs to be loaded for the RAID on the reboot? You guys know of any place I can find instructions on how to do this? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Jim
 

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hello,
i have a huge problem with my server right now. i have a windows 2000 server configured with raid 5 with 3 x seagate scsi 37gb harddrives and now when i boot it says unable to find operating system. using the adaptec scsi controller utility on bootup (ctrl +a) it detects only two drives. im guessing one failed (the third of my array).
i have two harddrives on the way, but nowhere on the utility do i see that it is recognized as raid 5. is this normal?

should i be able to boot up using two good hd's?

the rebuild option on the adaptec utility is not chooseable neither. i do not know if that is a bad thing or not currently.

im getting a new hd tomorrow morning at 8:30 am. hopefully someone can help me with this.
thanks in advanced
 

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