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Will I need to update my motherboard's BIOS for meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilitie?

Q: Will I need to update my motherboard's BIOS for meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilitie?

Will I need to update my IdeaCentre 71-25ISH motherboard's BIOS for Spectre vulnerabilities? I read here in the Reading Privileged Memory (https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/len-18282) with a Side Channel that Variant 2: Branch target injection (CVE-2017-5715)? Requires processor microcode updates Requires operating system updatesVulnerable to Spectre attackSo does "Requires processor microcode updates" = motherboard BIOS update? I see a line of infomation of stating Product: IdeaCentre 700Status: AffectedMinimum Version Required to Fix: FWKT86A Link to Update: http://support.lenovo.com/downloads/DS104868 Last Updated: 1/7/2018 I am posting here today because Monday Jan. 8 '18 I was told by Lenovo Support over the phone "there should be no need to update the motherboard BIOS".

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Recently bought a new msi gt62vr 7re gaming laptop and I'm quite terrified about the news...What should I do?Should I even worry?

MSI has just released a new BIOS today with:

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;; ;; ;; MSI BIOS Release Notes ;; ;; ;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Model : MS-16L2 (KBL)
MKT Name : GT62VR 7RD / GT62VR 7RE ;****************************************************************************; New BIOS : E16L2IMS.30C
ROM CheckSum : 2FCDH
Release Date : 2018/1/9
;--------------------------- Description ------------------------------------;
Update CPU microcode.


But I'm honestly quite scared of doing it after going through the instructions...What should I do?

Do you think I should even bother and risk updating the BIOS?I'm kind of thinking that the risk that I break something is higher than the risk that I get hacked with the Spectre vulnerability...I've never ever updated BIOS and I'm unable to take my laptop to any technician because of my disability.

A:Meltdown/Spectre BIOS update

MSI has a BIOS update (version E16L2IMS.30C) which addresses the recently discovered security flaw in Intel. ARM, and AMD processors.  This was released on 01/09/2018.  Is this the update you are considering?
How did you become aware of this update?
It was recently announced that Intel (and other manufacturers)  has a large security problem with their CPUs.  The BIOS update offered by MSI addresses this issue, Microsoft has released a update to address this as well.
Updating the BIOS (also known as flashing the BIOS) was fraught with potential problems which left enthusiasts wary of updating.  It had become the accepted norm not to update the BIOS unless there was a hardware change which required a BIOS update to resolve the issue.  But as you have read above there are now more important reasons to update the BIOS.  It is easier to do now, but you need to have a firm understanding of the steps involved in the process.  Have you read through the instructions in the manual for this computer?

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i'm told by various other forums and newsletters that along with the Microsoft update - installed yesterday - we also need a BIOS update (from manufacturers) with some kind of code from Intel, to fix the above flaws in our CPUs.
i searched the Toshiba downloads and updates page and the only BIOS updates are from 2012.
any news on Toshiba releasing a solution for this?

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As I know, Intel already published microcode updates for all Haswell CPU's, including mobile. At least, ASUS support confirmed, that BIOS of all MB for Haswell will be updated. Updated microcodes for Linux are already available. What about BIOS update for the Yoga 2 Pro with i7-4500U? Thank you in advance.

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We are attempting to automate the BIOS upgrades to address CVE-2017-5715. This has been no problem thus far on our other Lenovo models that have released updates. However, with the X250 (both touch and non-touch) we receive the following error:   error 180 - bios part numbers do not match It actually does not matter what version of the BIOS we try to flash, lower or higher. The embedded controller will update through the automation but the BIOS will not. The weird thing is if you manually run WINUPTP64.exe it will update without issue. This is not a realistic solution with the number of devices we have. I will say that our X250s have an OEM only BIOS version installed which I suspect might be the issue?   1.19 1.19 (N10ET40W) 1.13 (N10HT14W) For factory use  

A:X250 And Spectre/Meltdown - Cannot Automate BIOS Update

I'll add that this BIOS version is on at least 435 of our X250s.

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Hello Lenovo team, We, the users of Y510P hereby request our laptops not be exclued from the security updates regarding Spectre/Meltdown. This is a serious issue and we need a serious support from your side.

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Is there an estimate of when the BIOS update for the YOGA 910-131 KV 80VF notebooks, to address the Meltdown and Spectre security vulnerabilities, will be available?  Will a notification be pushed out to users with 910s, or do I need to keep checking for availability myself?  Thanks.

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Hello together, does anyone know why the T430s Type 2356 is missing on the BIOS Update list at the following page?https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/solutions/len-18282 So far, only 2352, 2353, 2354 and 2355 are listed an scheduled for february. Will there be an update for the 2356? Thanks in advanceRegards

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Hi, On the list of BIOS update for Meltdown and Spectre, I can't find out the status of Lenovo M81 7517 and Lenovo M81 7517 B2U. Does it mean there is no impact for those 2 desktop? Thanks 

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Earlier today i Decided to give  Lenovo uk Tech support a call,  i want to know if my  ideapad Z580 was possibly on the vulnerable list for Meltdown & Spectre? Only to my complete astonishment the guy i spoke with said he had never even heard of Meltdown & Spectre, and had no idea what i was even talking aboutuntil he looked it up, then he just said to me  i wouldn't worry about it i were you,  W T F Lenovo.  So does anyone on here know if the ideapad Z580 is affected at all, I can't see it listed anywhere.   

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BIOS updates for Meltdown and Spectre - any info on when they will be ready/released?

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Hello! I have a 3 year old Alienware 14. Does Dell plan on issuing BIOS updates to mitigate vulnerability to Meltdown and Spectre?

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Will there be BIOS updates for the T410 to address the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities?

A:T410 BIOS updates for Meltdown and Spectre

Good day and welcome to the community.Please watch this page: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/len-18282 for developing information.
As this topic is being addressed in the Security forum: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Security-Malware/bd-p/Security_Malware please search and engage discussion there.
This thread is now locked to avoid duplication, which only splinters discussions.

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I have a homebuilt workstation using an Intel motherboard and an Intel Processor (Sandy Bridge Xeon and S1200BTL). Am I just...completely out of luck for updates to address Meltdown and Spectre because this didn't come from an OEM, or will Intel release updates for their own hardware?
Thanks folks

A:Meltdown/Spectre Firmware/Bios for Homebuilt PC

No, it will depend of the company that made your motherboard.
For example, I just had a look at ASUS, and they are releasing BIOS updates with microcode updates (released by Intel). https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1035291
But you could be out of luck, when your motherboard manufacturer doesn't release new BIOS updates.
Although your OS could also help. What OS do you run on your workstation, Windows or Linux?

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I have noticed since I updated my system because of the Spectre and Meltdown bug that my SSD's are not getting the same speeds as they were. I downloaded AS SSD benchmark previously and had checked my SSD's and they normally had run at around 450 mbps and 550 mbps. I have 3 SSD's in my system and of course have them all set to AHCI in the BIOS. I downloaded and flashed the new BIOS from Gigabyte's page. The bios version is named F23f (Update Intel ME for security vulnerabilities). Also downloaded and installed the new Chipset driver with the info on the side that says:Intel Management Engine Interface
(Note) Please update the latest BIOS for ME Firmware before installing this driver.
Update Intel ME for security vulnerabilities
Installed the new patch from Microsoft to Windows 10 1709 version KB4054517. I now have been experiencing slower SSD speeds especially for the "Write" speeds. "Read" speeds seem to be the same, if not slightly slower. Is anyone else noticing this? Thanks.

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I can't apply Microsoft updates to address the Meltdown/Spectre vulnerabilities until there is an update to the BIOS software from Lenovo. I have reviewed the support page that lists models targeted for updates, and I don't see mine listed: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/len-18282 This is my main personal laptop, which I use for a lot of important tasks. If I can't apply this critical security update then it's worthless to me. This is not a very old machine, I would expect there to be some acknowledgement of it on that support page, but as far as I can see only newer Yoga models are being targeted for firmware patches. Please advise whether Lenovo intends to address this issue on this model.

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HelloI would like to install the O2TJY45USA firmware update for my Ideacentre 510-15IKL. I am running Linux Mint on the desktop. I could find the Windows10 updater .EXE on the pcsupport.lenovo.com website  so far. Does anybody knows if there is a bootable .ISO that I could use without Windows. The updater .EXE provided in the download package is called wflash2.exe which indicates that it is designed for the use with Windows10 and not FreeDOS or alike. Many thanks for your help

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Just posting here because I have a Toshiba Satellite NB10t-A-101 and after running the checker tool available on the net regarding the machine vulnerability against Spectre and Meltdown, I am concerned by Spectre.

Here after a link to another thread where I arrived after a search.
I include a link to a Toshiba page with some information on that critical subject.

Seems there is, as of today, no schedule date for my machine.

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Microsoft continues to work diligently with our industry partners to address the Spectre and Meltdown hardware-based vulnerabilities. Our top priority is clear: Help protect the safety and security of our customers? devices and data. Today, I?d like to provide an update on some of that work, including Windows security update availability for additional devices, our role in helping distribute available Intel firmware (microcode), and progress driving anti-virus compatibility.

Additional steps being taken to address Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities
Windows devices need both software and firmware updates to help protect them against these new vulnerabilities. Recently we added software coverage for x86 editions of Windows 10, and we continue to work to provide updates for other supported versions of Windows. You can find more information and a table of updated Windows editions in our Windows customer guidance article. We will update this documentation when new mitigations become available.

While firmware (microcode) security updates are not yet broadly available, Intel recently announced that they have completed their validations and started to release microcode for newer CPU platforms. Today, Microsoft will make available Intel microcode updates, initially for some Skylake devices running the most broadly installed version of Windows 10 ? the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update ? through the Microsoft Update Catalog, KB4090007. We will offer additional microcode upd... Read more

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I have 2 Lenovo products.  I am guessing the G50-45 is an IdeaPad and the Yoga 2Pro is a notebook.  They both look like laptops to me.  Thanks in advance for all help.(1)  How find my product in Intel ME 6.x/7.x/8.x/9.x/10.x/11/x,SPS 4.0, and TXE 3.0 I Cumulative Security Update (https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/len-17297)(2) How do I cross map G50-45 and Yoga 2Pro with the names under Product column in the list above to find out if there is fix or when a fix will be available?  Where should I look on my devices to find the matching name under the Product column?(3) How do I request that a fix be placed on Lenovo's update schedule?(4) Where may replacement compatible fixed bios chips for my specific devices be acquired should the existing chip be corrupted when upgrade be applied?(5) Instructions for cloning existing chip to revert back in the event of corrupting and upgrading existing chip to apply the fix (with precautions before the fix).

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I bought a gaming class system for quick response and speed for everyday applications. Now with the fixes to the Intel I7 micro code its noticably slower both starting and responding to common site and applications I used every day over and over.  The I7 is no longer what it was and its not my fault nor much I can do. This was an issue for at least 5 generations of CPU's and Intel never fixed it in their designs and now we have to live with a work around patch that a major impact to performance.

T520 Model 4239 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2860QMbr>; Nvidia NVS 4200M Win 10 64bitZ70-80 I7 - 5500U 16GB GB - 1TB HD Win 10 64bit FHD 17.3", G840 w/2GB

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Hi ,

As we know about the Spectre and meltdown Vulnerability, to mitigate these Vulnerability we need to apply the Windows OS patches.
i didn`t found any KB update released for the Server 2012, can anyone suggest when this will be released or share KB no if it already released.

Shailendra Dev

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A:G570 Bios update for Meltdown.. is this being provided

Accoring to official list, sadly, your laptop won't receive BIOS update. https://support.lenovo.com/uu/en/solutions/len-18282 As list isn't closed, your laptop still might be added to it. But... to be honest, it's rather unlikely, as newer models like G580 weren't added to list.

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Hi I don't see my laptop B50-80 on the list in: Lenovo Security Advisory: LEN-18282 (https://support.lenovo.com/se/pl/solutions/len-18282)Why? Does it means that there won't be a upgrade for this laptop?

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Has anyone write step by step procedure to patch this issues yet ??
Those already done,,a little sharing are appreciated !!


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Hi i dont know a lot about computers or the workings but with the scare of meltdown and spectre can we not get a new mother board and proccessos fitted in our old pc or is it not worth the faffing about and cost or what is the chance of little old me getting hacked just surfing the net not going on naughty sights like porn ect thanks . ps just by a new pc

A:Spectre and Meltdown

Chances of you being infected, and/or your data compromised with malware exploiting meltown and spectre vulnerabilities, are close to none.
Keep your software updated and don't be click happy. Stay safe!

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I have Windows 10 version 1709 (Fall Creators Update) on my home desktop PC. I have just updated with 2018-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x64-based Systems (KB4056892). 
I have read the excellent and informative article How to Check if Your PC Is Protected Against Meltdown and Spectre by Chris Hoffman at How-To Geek. I ran this PowerShell script and after entering all of the commands my results are as follows:
Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5715 [branch target injection]
Hardware support for branch target injection mitigation is present: False (need BIOS update)
Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True
Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is enabled: False
Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by system policy: False
Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by absence of hardware support: True
Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5754 [rogue data cache load]
Hardware requires kernel VA shadowing: True
Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is present: True
Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is enabled: True
Windows OS support for PCID performance optimnization is enabled: False [not required for security]
Suggested actions
* Install BIOS/.firmware update provided by your device OEM that enables hardware support for the branch target injection... Read more

A:How to Know if I'm Protected Against Meltdown & Spectre

If you have the most recent version BIOS installed, then your BIOS is up to date. There is nothing more for you to do with BIOS for now.BIOS could care less and has no idea what version of Windows you are running. Windows does not load when you go into BIOS.I did not take the time to read all that stuff at How-To Geek.Why did you read and run all that stuff? Are you experiencing system problems?If you're not experiencing system problems, then I would ignore the output of the Powershell app.Yes, it is true that anti-virus apps can interfere with Windows Updates, but Avast Free Edition is not one that I generally see interfering. Usually, it is the Internet Security Suites with the 3rd party firewalls that wreak havoc with Windows Updates. The fact that you checked for Windows Updates and it said none were available means that all outstanding Windows Updates are installed.You have plenty of protection with Avast, Windows Firewall, Internet Modem Firewall and Windows 10 itself. You really don't need further protection.Regards. . .jcgriff2p.s. Just curious - what did they tell you at the How-To Geek forum?

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Hi All

I'm sure you've all been following the news of Meltdown/Spectre.

I'm a (very satisfied) AppGuard user and was wondering if AppGuard can or does help with the issues we are facing with Meltdown/Spectre?

I know you need to install OS patches, firmware updates etc etc but in my case my PC is over 5yrs old and I highly doubt there will be any firmware/BIOS updates so can/will AppGuard help at all protect from these threats?

A:AppGuard + Spectre/Meltdown

As long as nothing with a code that tries to exploit meltdown/spectre runs on your system then you are protected. So if appguard or any anti exe, anti malware, antivius, srp, god himself stops the payload you are ptotected and if not you are not protected. Not going to go into details when it stops and when it doesn't because as a user you should already know that.

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Hello people- I just heard about the security flaw out there called Spectre or meltdown-- My problem is this-- I am working on an older computer running Windows VISTA- yes you heard right-- My computer has never given me ANY problems- and I stand by the old motto- if it aint broke dont fix it. My memory has 8 GB and it is an HP-Intel core 2 quad cpu 2.33 GHZ- service pack 2 windows vista home premium.
Because I am running Vista- I can no longer get chrome updates- and thus when I try to do the software patch for this new problem- That strict isolation site - is not there and thus I cannot enable it- do you really think this is a problem- or not?? Please advise
P.S. My passwords are extremely strong for all of my important sites-if that matters?

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Hello everybody, there is an offical Lenovo Advisory for Meltdown & Spectre in Combination with Lenovo Products:https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/solutions/len-18282 But i can't find information about my Lenovo Y50-70. Does anybody has further information?Do we will see an upgrade for our devices? Thanks in advancedGreatings from GermanyDaniel K.

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Hi everyone,
I currently own a Windows XP PC, which I occasionally use for web browsing. Are patches for Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities going to be issued for Windows XP, similar to the Wannacry Ransomware? I couldn't find any info about this online.

A:Meltdown and Spectre patches?

Unsupported operating systems like XP won't be getting patches.
My operating system (OS) is not listed. When can I expect a fix to be released?

Addressing a hardware vulnerability with a software update presents significant challenges and mitigations for older operating systems and can require extensive architectural changes. We are continuing to work with affected chip manufacturers and investigating the best way to provide mitigations, which may be provided in a future update. Replacing older devices running these older operating systems should address the remaining risk along with updated antivirus software.
Products currently out of both mainstream and extended support will not receive these OS updates. We recommend customers update to a supported OS version.
We will not be issuing updates for Windows Vista or Windows XP-based systems including WES 2009 and POSReady 2009.
Although Windows Vista and Windows XP-based systems are affected products, Microsoft is not issuing an update for them because the comprehensive architectural changes required would jeopardize system stability and cause application compatibility problems. We recommend that security-conscious customers upgrade to a newer supported operating system to keep pace with the changing security threat landscape and benefit from the more robust protections that newer operating systems provide.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-sg/help/4073757/protect-your-windows-d... Read more

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Looking through the list of downloads for Spectre/Meltdown here: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/len-17297I see nothing for the M715q. I assume it isn't safe from these issues is it? Will it be getting a fix anytime soon?

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Hello everybody, there is an offical Lenovo Advisory for Meltdown & Spectre in Combination with Lenovo Products:https://support.lenovo.com/nl/en/solutions/len-18282 But i can't find information about my Lenovo G550. Does anybody has further information?Do we will see an upgrade for our devices?

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Hey guys, and thanks for the help in advance!  Rather than hijack another's thread I will wreak my havoc here.
From what I just read (Thanks to Didier Stevens) I see that I have an older version of PowerShell, and that this Script won't work.  Here is my outcome.  I will go try to find the info on Updating Powershell, and then try the script again.  Any advice on that would be nice, if there is anything to avoid etc.  Hopefully this will also help others with this issue.

Windows PowerShell
Copyright (C) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

PS C:\Windows\system32> Install-Module SpeculationControl
The term 'Install-Module' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check
the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.
At line:1 char:15
+ Install-Module <<<< SpeculationControl
+ CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: (Install-Module:String) [], CommandNotFoundException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : CommandNotFoundException

PS C:\Windows\system32> get-host|Select-Object version

PS C:\Windows\system32>

I am a little confused about what this Script does?  Is it that not all CPU's are vulnerable?  My CPU does not have a current firmware update so it may be vulnerable at this time (though not to worried about it ATM) I have time to work on it now, so I'll try to move for... Read more

A:Meltdown and Spectre Powershell-Script Won't Run, Me Too!

You need to install the Windows Management Framework to update PowerShell.
Take a look at the table here to see which version is compatible with your Windows version:

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Desktop: Dell XPS 8700, Windows 10 Professional, 64 bit, version 1709.  Avast Premier, Malwarebytes 3 Premium, all software up to date.
Laptop: Dell Inspiron 5537, Windows 10 Home, 64 bit, version 1703 (1709 has not yet been offered to this machine).  Avast Premier, Malwarebytes 3 Premium, all software up to date.
Both machines on a home network (Desktop via Ethernet cable, Laptop via WiFi) behind a Linksys EA2700 router.  Laptop is also used "on the road" and as such logs in automatically, via WiFi, to the office networks of a very few water agencies when I work there.  It is never used on any public network.
After Windows updates last night and (for laptop only) this afternoon, Desktop shows Cumulative Update KB 4056892 for 1709, Laptop shows Cumulative Update KB 4056891 for 1703
Am I correct in understanding that these "hotfix" updates include Microsoft's software patches intended to block the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities?
If so, what other preventive steps are appropriate here?  BIOS/UEFI updates?  Patches to other software?  What else?
To the best of my recollection, the firmware on these computers has not been touched since they were new.  The desktop originally had Windows 7 Pro installed, and was upgraded directly to Win 10.  The laptop originally had Windows 8 installed, and was upgraded first to 8.1 and from there to Win 10.  Both machines have been kept fully updated at all times.

A:Meltdown/Spectre protection status?

If you wish to know the exact purpose(s) for any given Microsoft patch see the Microsoft Update Catalog and search on the KB number without any space between the 'B' and the digit sequence.
I know that Microsoft has pushed out the Spectre & Meltdown OS Patches for Intel processor systems and some AMD processor based systems and I believe the numbers you give are those patches.
You will need to check the support pages for your machines at the manufacturer's website to see when they release BIOS updates.  Only a very select few have done so as of today.  I'm expecting the BIOS updates to roll out over a period of weeks.
By the way, given the length of time that 1709 has been out you would not be acting prematurely in going to the Microsoft Windows 10 Download Page and using the Update Now button to trigger the Update Assistant for your machine still running version 1703.

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Hello. I am curious if the Flex 2 and 3 series are vulnerable to the Spectre/meltdown vulnerabilities. I came across a Lenovo article with all the models and did not see Flex 2 and 3. https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/len-18282

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