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Q: Insider update.

Have windows 10 1511 with digital rights. At 7 am NY time this morning I changed my settings for fast ring, I am a registered insider. How long before I get 14393.5 update?

Henry

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A: Insider update.

Usually takes 24-48 hours after switching ring. There is truly no rhyme or reason to the exact time MS clears you for the download. You will get 14393.0 first and then a Cumulative Update to 14393.5 if and only if you are set to the Fast ring. So be sure to check which ring you have after you get 14393.0. For me it was initially set to Release Preview.

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Should the Windows Insider Program be replaced with the Microsoft Insider Program?

Gabe tweeted this:

A:Should Windows Insider Program be replaced with Microsoft Insider Prog

What's the difference ?
Different label, same content. Is it ?

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Hello everyone!
My problem is the following:
I'm running windows 10 insidier build 14915 and Windows Update can't see new windows update, only defender updates.
I already reseted Software Distribution and catroot2 folders.

A:Insider build 14915 Can not update

Originally Posted by Reazin


Hello everyone!
My problem is the following:
I'm running windows 10 insidier build 14915 and Windows Update can't see new windows update, only defender updates.
I already reseted Software Distribution and catroot2 folders.



The only update I've seen mentioned is to Build 14926 and may not yet be available to everyone in the Insider program, just as 14915 took awhile to get to those running 14905. Just requires a bit of patience.

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I have been successfully updating as a Insider Win 10 since Oct 2014 with no problems. I recently did a clean install of build 11102 and it seems ok. A few slow downs and hangs but generally ok.
Recently I received notification from MS that build 14257 was available for download. I downloaded the file as always and it went through the usual prep and getting ready etc. When it rebooted to start the install I get a screen asking me to "Choose your Keyboard L/O" I choose United States and then it reverts back to "Choose an Option" I choose "continue & Exit to Win 10" and it boots back into my build 11102. I've tried this three or four times with the same result.
I have downloaded and run the MS Fit-It for upgrades to no avail. I have tried using a Local account, still does the same thing. I created an ISO TechNet and it does the same thing when trying to do a clean install.
Any ideas??
I have run DISM and SFC /scannow

A:My Insider build 11102 won't update to 14257

You can create an iso to manually clean install by extracting install.esd and converting to an iso using esd-iso tool in tutorials section.

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i have tried to install the latest insider update about 7 times all seems well then it says trying restore previouse instalation then i`m back to previouse again(build 14936)
windows 10 pro insider.

Anyone else?

regards top

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Quote:




Hi everyone,
Before heading off for the holidays I wanted to give a little bit of an update on how things are shaping up for Windows 10, especially since we don?t have a build for you this month. I know that some of you are disappointed that we didn?t release another build (though we know some of them escaped?.I?m looking at you 9888 & 9901?)* but now that we?ve announced our event on January 21st I can finally explain why we didn?t. We?ve been very hard at work putting together a great build for you that includes a bunch of new features and improvements. As all of those payloads came in we needed to stabilize code, fix any integration issues, and ensure all of the new UX is polished. We?re really focused on making the next build something that we hope you?ll think is awesome. In fact, just so that we have a *daily* reminder to ourselves that we want this build to be great, we even named our build branch FBL_AWESOME. Yeah, it?s a bit corny, but trust me that every Dev that checks in their code and sees that branch name gets an immediate reminder of our goal. We?re super excited to show you what we?ve been up to! Look for a follow-up blog post from us on where to tune-in to the live webcast on January 21st.

This Windows Insider thing seems to be gaining momentum

We have over 1.5 million registered Windows Insiders today which is amazing, and about 450k of you are what we consider ?highly active?. In other words, you?re re... Read more

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I keep getting pop ups saying my copy of windows is about to expire. "12/31/2016 4:29:44 PM"
I have: Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview Evaluation copy. Build 14295.rs1_release 160318-1628
Every time I try and use Windows Update, I keep having the following errors...
0x80240fff
0x80070017

No mater what I do I can not get the updates to install, in fact windows wont even let me go back to an earlier build.
Really don't want to lose all my settings, apps games, I've backed up what I can but really dreading all the customization and settings I had to tweak.

Anyway to stop the expiration? fix the updates so it works or download and install offline so i can keep all my settings and stuff?

Also tried WindowsUpdateDiagnostic and wushowhide. both didn't do anything for me. tried clearing the "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution" and that didn't work.

Anyone know how to fix this?

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Just received a cumulative update for 14342.

A:New Cumulative Update for Insider Build 14342

Yep, got this update here too. Interesting.
I think we'll have a Feedback Hub post about this patch in a few hours.

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Hi,My Sony VAIO(SVF15213SNB) currently on Win10 Home Single language version 1607 build 14388.I Just want to discontinue getting insider builds after anniversary update that comes this August 2nd .Is there a possibility to do this without losing anything from my pc ,something by doing an inplace upgrade of the rs_1 after getting that buid.If it's possible,what is the final build and version number??

I just want to get regular official builds instead of insider builds,Since too many builds and updates is using too much data which my data plan is incapable of.What should I do to get back to regular official builds after rs_1 without a risk of losing my documents,music and video .Is it okay to just stop insider builds after getting rs_1 without any further problems ?Please help me.

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good evening guys,
as the title says I can't update any app store giving me this error

is there is any thing I can do!

A:After downgrading from insider to AU, can't update apps 0x87AF0001

When I had same problem with same error code, turning off Firewall until updates were done fixed it.

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Hi all, I have a dell xps 13 2015 touch screen. It started an insider build update on Windows 10 a week or two back and is still stuck on 80%, howner can i fix this? Please send help.

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Hello,
I have a Windows 10 Pro Insider (v.14936) and since the last update (the 14936), I do not anymore have access to my network hard drives (NAS Synology DS210j and another Thecus N2800 NAS).
Previously I had no problem accessing the NAS, I've also another computer under 10 on my network and this one i've no problems for access it. They both have the same antivirus and the same firewall settings (ESET Smart Security).
Here is the error message I get when I try to open my network drives :


I deleted the credentials stored in Windows.
In addition, following the recommendation of Microsoft support (KB912998) I checked the next local strategy was well off: "Network access: Do not allow storage of credentials or .NET Passports for network authentication"
I tried a system repair using the command "sfc / scannow" and "chkdsk / r" without any changes.
Do you have an idea to solve this problem? Is this a bug referenced in this release?
Thank you in advance for your assistance,
Ptitsnake.

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Hi,I just upgraded to Windows Insider 17074 and now the Fingerprint stopped working. (Error 31) in Device Manager (Windows is not able to load the driver)I already tired to reinstall Synaptics Metallica MOC Touch Fingerprint Driver for Windows 10 (64-bit) - ThinkPadAny idea? Regards Dirk

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Today I tried to update my Windows 10 insider preview (fast) system to the latest build. During the first attempt I received a BSOD and rollback. After multiple reboots and cleanups (such as removing kaspersky) I was able to do the update again.
The update completed, since I once had the "hi" screens after login, however after a reboot I am not constantly getting the spinning white circle. (left for an hour), no desktop. This is the 2nd stage with blue background, not the initial loading windows flag. I've since rebooted a few times, but ... nothing ...
I booted a windows 10 USB to attempt to run recovery options but received a message that an update was in progress ("it looks like you started an upgrade and booted from installation media"). I was unable to revert to a previous build, and startup repair didn't help. I can get to the command line but other than copy files there's little else I can do (system is *of course* all backed up anyway to crashplan, and non system drive data looks intact in any case)
Any tips - other than a clean install? perhaps not such a bad thing after over a year of insider builds....

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We have released a Cumulative Update (KB3176925) to Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14393 on PCs and Mobile devices which will bring the build number to 14393.3. This Cumulative Update includes a handful of fixes:

We have fixed an issue where keyboard input on some Windows tablet devices would not rotate to landscape normally.We have fixed an issue that results in Windows Updates being delayed on systems with Connected Standby.We have fixed a problem with text input with Korean Input Method Editor (IME) in some Store apps.We fixed an issue causing Store apps to stop launching due to a licensing issue.We have fixed an issue with apps that synchronize using DDE for inter-process communication.






Source: Cumulative Update to Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14393 now available - Feedback Hub

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Today I updated my ideapad 320 to latest insider preview(version:1803, os build:17115.1), after updating i found dolby audio was removed without no intimation!!
This happened even the last time! Don't know why this happens?
 
Mod's Edit: Additional information added to Subject line for clarity of issue.
 

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source: Insider Preview Update KB4046355 Silently Uninstalls Windows Media Player

After Windows Insiders installed update KB4046355 for the Insider Build 16299.15, they discovered that Windows Media Player had been silently removed from the computer. As Build 16299 is the Fall Creators Update that is scheduled to come out this month, it is unknown whether the removal of Windows Media Player is intentional as part of this large update or a bug.
Insiders not happy with missing Windows Media Player

The only way Insiders realized that Windows Media Player was removed was when they tried to use it to play a video. It was then discovered that Windows Media Player was silently removed after installing the October 3rd 2017 KB4046355 update. This update is called and "FeatureOnDemandMediaPlayer", but does does not provide any information as to what it does.

The only thing we do know, is that after this update was installed, all that was left behind is an empty Windows Media Player folder.Click to expand...


Thankfully, it may be possible to reinstall Windows Media Player
While some people have reported that they were unable to restore Windows Media Player, others have stated that they were able to install the program again using the Apps control panel. To restore Windows Media Player in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, simply follow these steps:
Goto Settings.
Click on Apps.
Click on Manage Optional Features.
Click on Add a Feature
Scroll down and you should see Wi... Read more

A:Insider Preview Update KB4046355 Silently Uninstalls Windows Media Player

Yikes not good at all.
 

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so what do I do if im member of insiders build 10 was  trying to help with bugs, then got a update which messed up rolling back to 8.1 so had to do fresh install. now I cannot access my previous version on the same serial key I used from before please
fix this issue for those already signed up as windows 10 insiders not fair to those who actually have been apart of helping to find bugs and then update screws it all up. 

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Am not on Insider builds. Getting Error on Updates Your Insider Build Needs Attn........
Not logged in to a MS account.
Running anniversary ed upgrade from last release clean install, valid retail key win7
Running Norton Utilities 16, Spybot Anti-Beacon and O&O Shutup10, registry hacked to turn off Cortana
Everything Win10 that can be uninstalled is or is turned off in settings.

All I have seen is to fix if on Insider Build Program, any suggestions ?

A:Not on Insider Build but error message: Your Insider Build Needs Attn

Hello Pkshadow Welcome to the Ten Forums!

The prompting you are seeing is most likely to get you to notice and install updates that have been accumulating. Otherwise that is a strange one. You might have to sign into an MS account if you already had one setup in order to see that account's information updated on the change from Insider to Anniversary. That would then see everything synced properly.

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Insider Preview build 14332

OK I have Insider Hub installed and it is listed under Manage Optional features.

But it cannot be found in the Apps list.
So, how do I pin it to Start ?
How do I open and use it ?
Cortana Search took me to the stupid Bing.

A:Insider Hub

Now combined with Windows Feedback to be called:

Feedback Hub! It has its own list of actions down the left side of the App window.

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As the Insider program will continue after Windows 10 is released I thought I'd see how many of you are going to stay an insider or jump over to RTM/GA version.



   Tip
How to Start or Stop Receiving Insider Builds in Windows 10

A:RTM/GA or Insider - What are you going to do?

Originally Posted by z3r010


As the Insider program will continue after Windows 10 is released I thought I'd see how many of you are going to stay an insider or jump over to RTM/GA version.



I'm going to jump over to the GA/RTM. It's been fun testing up till now but I will love it when it comes out and it's stable.

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I downloaded the Win 10 insider program in July 2015 on a PC that had been running Vista. If I was to request to stop recieving Insider builds would Microsoft disable my Win 10 as it was installed as a insider build not an upgrade?
 

A:Win 10 insider

I am not 100% certain, but I do not think the insider builds are registered with Microsoft, as genuine activated products. It will eventually expire. What that means, I am also u8nsure of, but I suspect you could go on using it, without backup or updates.
The only way out, for you, is to purchase Windows 10, or continue to update with the insider builds. The program is set to go on for a long time yet.
 

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Started Insiders Preview.It has been about 24 Hours.I have yet to receive any Builds. I did get KB3157621 update.No water Mark in lower right corner.Any ideas ?

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According this 14901 is on its way.

Microsoft preparing to drop first Windows 10 'Redstone 2' build for Insiders this week | Windows Central

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Is there no way to install the insider hub on a phone? I can find no way to find it with my Lumina 550. It's not in the mobile store and the Apps and Features path suggested for PC doesn't exist on my Lumina 550. Am I missing something?

Any info greatly appreciated! :-)

A:Insider Hub for mobile

Home page - Windows Insider Program

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I am on Windows 10 RTM Build.

I am simply not getting any Insider Builds.
Yes i am an insider on Fast ringI am using US EnglishI upgraded from Windows 7 Ultimate NI never Changed Any telemetry settingsI tries using media creation tool, to reinstall windows 10.New installation is still not getting new buildsI tried changing from fast to slow and vice versa.And waiting for couple of weeks.It is still not gettingI never tweak the registry, so it is not an issue.

I am now simply at my wit's end

Setting Screenshots

A:Not Getting Insider Builds.

bump any help will be Appreciated

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Good morning everyone!
 
I just joined and I'm really enjoying the discussions that happen here. I did a search through the forum and I noticed that there weren't any discussions on insider threat. Is that just not technical enough for you guys to talk about? Of course I'm a bit biased about that topic, but I'll try to keep that out of the conversation. The last thing I want to be is one of those people who only joins a community to promote themselves or something they do.
 
Here's my question: What do you think about insider threat and how do you go about addressing it?
 
We've seen this being discussed almost every time there is a high profile breach, but I don't see it spoken or written about that often outside of those headlines.
 
Thank you in advance for the responses. I'm looking forward to seeing what you have to say.
 
-Steve

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Hi

Ive been on the slow ring for insider builds since build 99xx (cant remember). I got to the RTM build of 10240. I haven't opted out of the insider program and I get the STOP INSIDER BUILDS and SLOW/FAST ring options on the update page, I also have a registered copy of windows 10 pro. If I do the winver command from search I am shown that I have windows 10 (build 10240) and there is no expiration date. My question is this, am I still on the insider builds or not, since 10240 Ive been on the slow ring and I still am, I haven't gotten a new build number except that every now and then I have updates to download. I also notice in the UPDATE HISTORY that every so often it will tell me that no updates have been installed since the last build (cant remember the exact words) So am I still an insider? Why am I not getting slow ring builds?

It seems 10240 does not expire (to me it seems like Ive opted out of the insider program and am stuck on 10240 but the fact that STOP INSIDER BUILDS and FAST/SLOW rings appear in settings tell me that I still an insider.

Help me figure this out please.

A:Am I on Insider Builds

Hi!

Please read this tutorial: Insider Builds - Start or Stop Receiving in Windows 10

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Already made mistake with Bitdefender 2017. Bit support says they don't support beta, which they consider W-10 Insider. Checking for refund.
I see Kaspersky says the same.
I'm a little nervous about just trusting Defender.
Pete

A:AV for Insider Preview

Doesn't matter what antivirus you use, it will not going to protect you 100% all the time. That basically say, as long you have a good common sense, Windows Defender should do fine. You can add Malwarebytes Anti Exploit to protect against exploits, and Malwarebytes Anti Ransomware BETA to protect against ransomware, and Malwarebytes Anti Malware free and Hitman Pro for weekly on demand scanner.

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My system is in windows insider program for weeks (slow ring) and I've not got any builds yet. My account is also registered in insider program.
Info: Windows 10 Home (OEM), version 1607, build 14393.447, OSlanguage: en-US, locale is set US, interface user language is set en-US, BUT I've hungarian version of windows (that is I didn't do clean install with an en-US version because I set my OSlanguage registry value to en-US).
If I switch to technical preview ring, I get some cumulative updates but returning to slow ring there is no builds.

Thank you for your help!

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Can anybody confirm PRO N is actually receiving new Insider versions. I have tried all the usual tricks to kick start receiving the Insider versions but no success.

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I am a member of the insider program. Currently I have windows 10 1511 registered. Today I enabled the fast ring, but when I went to update I got nothing. Any reason why?

Henry

A:windows 10 insider.

When switching to the fast ring for the first time it seems to take a couple days to kick in and get the latest fast ring update to show up.

You can get almost the latest version ISO here and upgrade yourself:
Windows 10 Insider Preview ISO Advanced

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The settings need attention? I have no idea how to fix this??

A:I keep Getting a Notification to Get Insider Builds

Originally Posted by Gary


The settings need attention? I have no idea how to fix this??



If you go to Settings/Update and security/Windows Update/Advanced Options, is there a 'Fix me' box under Get Insider Builds?

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When it comes to computers, I?m not the brightest bulb on the tree.
Does anyone know about ?Software Insider Magazine?? Are they a reliable source of information?
They recommend a registry cleaner ?REGZOOK?. Is that any good?
 

A:What about Software Insider Magazine?

Registry tools are not recommended and here is why: http://miekiemoes.blogspot.com/2008/02/registry-cleaners-and-system-tweaking_13.html
 

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Hi! I just wanted to know, if i get insider builds, Will it reset my pc?

A:Will insider builds reset my pc?

What do you mean by "reset my pc " ?

IF you have issues with your current operating system and you are hoping installing Insider Preview will rectify them, then my answer will be ....................... probably not.

If I misunderstand you, my apology. Please correct me.

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Can someone who knows the facts let me know please - if someone today, downloads the latest Windows 10 Insider ISO from Microsoft, and then proceeds to install this Windows 10 Insider on their fresh, new computer, can they use it legally, without having to pay for it? (Note, we're assuming the user does not own any previous Windows license on any machine).

There have been lots of different answers when searching online, and frankly Microsoft's EULA is ambiguous.

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A friend of mine's laptop has insider preview installed and activated with a Microsoft account. The current version has expired and he can't boot to desktop. Can I get the latest insider preview iso and reactivate how Win 10 insider preview. How do I go about this?

A:Insider preview expired

I would need more info.

1. Before there is the now expired Insider Preview, what was the previous operating system running in that computer ?
If it was Win 7.................... which edition ? Home Basic, Home Premium, Pro, Ultimate ?
If it was Win 8/8.1.....................which edition ? Home or Pro ?
Was the copy genuine ?

2. Do you have the product key for that previous operating system.

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Just wondering if a I turn on release preview, and later down the road will I be able to turn it off and get regular updates. Regular updates like next years redstone2.

Henry

A:Insider release preview.

If and when you do turn off the insider version you would have to reinstall the stable build to move forward and get the regular updates.

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Just wondering if a I turn on release preview, and later down the road will I be able to turn it off and get regular updates. Regular updates like next years redstone2.

Henry

A:Insider release preview.

If and when you do turn off the insider version you would have to reinstall the stable build to move forward and get the regular updates.

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the poll will tell you

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Can someone who knows the facts let me know please - if someone today, downloads the latest Windows 10 Insider ISO from Microsoft, and then proceeds to install this Windows 10 Insider on their fresh, new computer, can they use it legally, without having to pay for it? (Note, we're assuming the user does not own any previous Windows license on any machine).

There have been lots of different answers when searching online, and frankly Microsoft's EULA is ambiguous.

A:Is Windows Insider Still Free?

Originally Posted by tengeezer


Can someone who knows the facts let me know please - if someone today, downloads the latest Windows 10 Insider ISO from Microsoft, and then proceeds to install this Windows 10 Insider on their fresh, new computer, can they use it legally, without having to pay for it? (Note, we're assuming the user does not own any previous Windows license on any machine).

There have been lots of different answers when searching online, and frankly Microsoft's EULA is ambiguous.



The answer is, of course and quite clearly a big NO. You cannot get Windows 10 free to your new computer. It is and has not been free since Windows 10 was released on 29th of July 2015.

Microsoft has all the time been and still is quite clear with this:

Users who installed Windows 10 Technical Preview on their computers before the launch last July and will remain in Windows Insider program will have a legal, valid and activated Windows 10 as long as their device remains functional, and are able to upgrade it to any future builds of Windows 10 Insider Preview

After the July 29th 2015 users have had and will have two ways to get Windows 10:
If a user has a valid, licensed and activated Windows 7 or 8 on a PC, that PC can be upgraded to Windows 10 for free until 29th of July 2016If a user has any other operating operating system than Windows 7 or 8, or if a user gets a new PC without operating system, or if a user will upgrade Windows 7 or 8 after the Jul... Read more

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Windows 10 home.
When I go to the update screen it tells me that my "insider preview build settings" need attention. (1st image below)

Actually, I am not part of that Windows 10 insider program and when I go to the insider program settings, that is in fact the case. (image below)
How do I fix this mixup?

Edit:
Also noticed that the update download (image 1) remains stuck at 0% and update history says none. But this is the installed anniversary update.

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hello after updating to 14959 browsers cannot access internet correctly. if i downgrade to 14931 it works fine, but afet 14931 comes 3 new buld but problem was same. i try lot of things but cant slove this problem if enyone can help ... sry for my bad english pls :P

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I'm still on 14959 even though I'm set for fast updates.

However, when I click to check for updates, within 1 second it comes back with "your device is up to date. last checked today at time".

Nothing is blocked (Windows firewall is set to default).

I have just (last Sunday) upgraded the hardware (Motherboard/CPU/Memory) but it shows as activated with a digital license linked to my Microsoft account.

This is a dual boot system with Win 10 Pro and the insider version (separate SSD drives). The Win 10 Pro is OK and gets updates.

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I Want out of the insider builds too many issues for me atm.

When i try to exit the builds i get this...

I click what seems to be 'go back to an earlier build' and It closes the window...

When i attempt to re-install Windows 10

It doesnt give me the option to keep files which is important

Anysupport?

A:Exiting Insider Builds

Hello TehMerkMods, and welcome to Ten Forums.

You can use step 5 in OPTION TWO of the tutorial below to completely stop getting Insider builds.

Insider Builds - Start or Stop Receiving in Windows 10

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Is it possible to download the ISO for 10565, and install on a PC, without having this PC permanently an insider build, getting new builds? 10565 has been fantastic for me so far, but for example, my office PC, it's not really suitable to be installing new builds every few weeks/months. I just want specific builds if they are significantly better.

A:Insider Build Question

Originally Posted by networkn


Is it possible to download the ISO for 10565, and install on a PC, without having this PC permanently an insider build, getting new builds? 10565 has been fantastic for me so far, but for example, my office PC, it's not really suitable to be installing new builds every few weeks/months. I just want specific builds if they are significantly better.



There's ISO for newest one (10565) here: Download Windows 10 Build 10565 ISO - Microsoft News but as those are insider builds and if you have standard 10240 you can put it in slow ring and defer updates until you want to.

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